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That's his dad's passport. If you read the comment section of that tweet, you'll see that Malik posted the photo section of the passport. And it's clearly not BHO, Jr. It's BHO, Sr's passport.
Seriously, people. Aren't we supposed to be better than this? Is it really that difficult to do basic fact checking before you post?
Things here have changed, that’s for sure. Not exactly sure when they changed but this site isn’t what it was just a couple of years ago….
With that said, many of the “old-timers” can still be trusted and are reliable
I've noticed that there is almost a desperate push to get people to post more, more, more.
Whenever I get into a "discussion" with a couple of the mods, they constantly bring up the fact that I don't create new posts. It's like they view that worse than being a kitten killer, the way they go on about it. And one of the mods keeps going on about how that other .win site is posting more original material. Like we're in some kind of competition with them. And look at how many posts are people churning up old news, getting everyone worked up over stuff that happened years ago. I suppose there's not enough interesting things happening lately, so they need to go digging for old news. 🤷♀️
So there does seem like there is a shift towards churning out quantity rather than quality here lately.
makes me wonder if there's travel information in there in regards to his mother/grandfather that invalidates some of their story. What if he wasn't the real father or something?
Could Malik be attempting to draw attention to a subtle detail within the passport? It's pretty obvious after looking at it for 5 seconds that it's Obama Senior's passport.
This fake post should have been put on Facebook where all the fake posts go. Us anons need to do our research first, rather than being the first to post something like this.
There is a reason why he had a faked BC. It was either he WAS born in Kenya (notice the date on the passport is 1959) or he was born in Hawaii BEFORE it was a state. Hawaii was made a state in 1959. (Did they make him younger than he really is? )
Either way he isn't a natural born citizen. It didn't matter if his mom was American or not. He had to be born on US soil.
Just to be clear, he had to be born on American soil to Americans for the presidency. Soil is not 'natural born' if your parents aren't citizens. Kamala violates this as well, because people don't care to comprehend the difference. You can't crawl over the border, drop a baby, and have it grow up to be President - you have to immigrate legally, become a citizen, then have your baby.
No you don't. Born in the US, you're a birthright citizen and can run for president.
"Amendment XIV, Section 1, Clause 1 of the U.S. Constitution directs that all persons born in the United States are U.S. citizens. This is the case regardless of the tax or immigration status of a person's parents."
No, it doesn't. You've put quotes around some flawed interpretation of it. It says "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside." and subject to the jurisdiction thereof means that the parents must be Americans, not visiting foreigners (non-Americans (non-citizens), and the children they make, are under the jurisdiction of their home country, not this one).
When you're in the US, even as a tourist, even as an illegal crawling over the border to drop a baby on US soil, you are subject to the jurisdiction here.
The exception would be royals and diplomats and their children. Anyone who has diplomatic immunity.
Tourists and people on work visas and such don't have diplomatic immunity. So they are subject to the laws here.
Surely you don't think tourists can come over here and rape and kill and sell drugs and rip the tags off mattresses with no fear of the po-po, do you?
So yes, anchor babies can one day be President. Scary, huh? 🤷♀️
Yeah, you might want to go check on what you're claiming here.
Unless someone is here as a member of a royal family or a diplomat (or their spouse and kids and such) with diplomatic immunity, they are subject to the jurisdiction here.
Or do you think tourists have the right to run around the country breaking laws left and right?
I get that people don't like the idea of the very slim, teeny tiny, itsy bitsy chance that Harris might become President, but you don't get to keep adding conditions to the Constitution to stop that from happening.
As long as you're not the child of royals or diplomats or the like, if you're born in the US, you're a US citizen and can be President one day.
All this "Your parents and grandparents and your barber's second cousin's ex-husband has to have been born in the US for you to be a US citizen!!" shit is just asinine.
Seriously, where did this stuff come from? I never saw it before Harris became VP. Was it on a podcast or something? Or do you just see other people say it and you just repeat it?
The writers of the constitution would not allow anyone to illegally enter the country and then drop spawn who become citizens. Makes no sense especially when looking at the rest of the constitution and the bill of rights.
There is a process for becoming a citizen that any foreigners can work through.
Those foreigners are subject to the jurisdiction of their home nations. As is their offspring. Until thy go through the citizenship application and process.
Makes perfect sense both spirit and letter of the law.
The fact that politicians continually ‘interpret’ these very detailed and specific laws illegally shows that they are complicit in weakening the USA in so many ways.
31 CFR § 515.329 - Person subject to the jurisdiction of the United States; person subject to U.S. jurisdiction.
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§ 515.329 Person subject to the jurisdiction of the United States; person subject to U.S. jurisdiction.
The terms person subject to the jurisdiction of the United States and person subject to U.S. jurisdiction include:
(a) Any individual, wherever located, who is a citizen or resident of the United States;
(b) Any person within the United States as defined in § 515.330;
(c) Any corporation, partnership, association, or other organization organized under the laws of the United States or of any State, territory, possession, or district of the United States; and
(d) Any corporation, partnership, association, or other organization, wherever organized or doing business, that is owned or controlled by persons specified in paragraphs (a) or (c) of this section.
[50 FR 27437, July 3, 1985, as amended at 68 FR 14145, Mar. 24, 2003; 80 FR 2292, Jan. 16, 2015; 81 FR 13991, Mar. 16, 2016]
When the Constitution was written, there were no immigration laws. The first immigration law wasn't written until 1882. Remember that this country was founded on immigrants.
Do you really think visitors to our country, legal or otherwise, aren't subject to our laws? Seriously?
Edited to add:
Look up "birth tourism". There is an entire industry of getting pregnant women to the US in order for them to give birth here so that their child can be a US citizen.
Trump worked to make it more difficult for pregnant women to get a tourist visa because of birth tourism.
Don't you think it's odd that there is an entire industry related to something you believe isn't true? Odd that Trump changed tourist visas for pregnant women because of something you don't believe is true?
‘Subject to jurisdiction of...’ does not mean not subject to laws. It’s easy enough to read when I sent as well as educate deeper if one wants to learn the more in depth meanings.
The whole drop spawn, be citizen is horseshit both at face value and in fact law. The ‘interpretation’ of black robed politically appointed people and politicians of this fact has made for a ridiculous situation and the USA the laughing stock of the world. It makes no sense to slow illegals to become citizens while ignoring immigration law. It weakens the nation. And it is not logical.
The majority of people have been brainwashed by media and politicians into believing this is law as well as proper.
Yes the USA was founded by immigrants. Immigrants who created laws, and then worked to build the nation. The USA isn’t a repository for dregs of society to come and loot and leach off the hard work of others.
You can argue that things shouldn't be the way they are. I'm not arguing in favor of how things are.
But to deny reality because it doesn't sit well with you is just nuts.
And the reality is that our legal system does, in fact, recognize people who were born here as US citizens, no matter where their parents were born.
You can argue until you're blue in the face, but it doesn't change the fact that our entire legal system recognizes people born on us soil are US citizens. No one is concerned with how you, personally, feel on the subject. 🤷♀️
I knew he was from Kenya, - I heard a story years ago from a woman- who said his mom went into labor, and was supposed to fly out, instead, went into the water (ocean) and tried to ease her contractions. Was unable to ease those contractions, missed the flight - stayed in Kenya where he was born.
There's a good documentary that came out around the 2012 election called Dreams From My Real Father. It digs into Obama's connection with communist propagandist and pornographer Frank Marshall Davis and the possibility of him being Obama's real father. It also goes into some detail about his time spent in Indonesia. It's an interesting rabbit hole to go down.
The picture shows that the passport was renewed up until 1969, during which Obama Sr. had been through 3 wives and had 4 children (including Barack Jr.). Yet the passport has blank entry for wives & children.
The law at the time did not permit her to convey citizenship because of her age. Anyway, she had the kid in Kenya and brought it back to Hawaii where her parents did some wrangling to make it look like he was a citizen. Father was a UK citizen.
Yea I understand that argument, but there is no legal difference anywhere in the law that makes natural born citizen different from birthright citizen.
It's not like one gets social sec and then other doesn't or one gets a special passport..
I cant stand the guy, but its mentioned in the constitution without a definition..
🙄 That's his dad's passport. If you read the comment section of that tweet, you'll see that Malik posted the photo section of the passport. And it's clearly not BHO, Jr. It's BHO, Sr's passport.
Seriously, people. Aren't we supposed to be better than this? Is it really that difficult to do basic fact checking before you post?
We are not better, that's for sure. We on gaw are as gullible and as research-lazy as a Facebook normie. It's unfortunate but it's true.
Sometimes moreso because we want to believe.
It seems to me that we usually get it right at some point as the frogs here place their comments and provide sauce to the truth.
What you're suggesting might require looking at the material for several seconds.
Things here have changed, that’s for sure. Not exactly sure when they changed but this site isn’t what it was just a couple of years ago…. With that said, many of the “old-timers” can still be trusted and are reliable
I've noticed that there is almost a desperate push to get people to post more, more, more.
Whenever I get into a "discussion" with a couple of the mods, they constantly bring up the fact that I don't create new posts. It's like they view that worse than being a kitten killer, the way they go on about it. And one of the mods keeps going on about how that other .win site is posting more original material. Like we're in some kind of competition with them. And look at how many posts are people churning up old news, getting everyone worked up over stuff that happened years ago. I suppose there's not enough interesting things happening lately, so they need to go digging for old news. 🤷♀️
So there does seem like there is a shift towards churning out quantity rather than quality here lately.
Many of the old-timers are the ones desperately pushing disproven sources because they back up disproven theories. Don't trust any authority.
I see that now. I don’t know where else to go now, and all at a time when it’s more important than ever to know what’s going on beneath the surface
This "rage" is the currencyof the Internet. The best way to get eyes on anything is to give it the title I did.
So…you made a clickbait title that lied just to get views? That’s not better, dude
Isn’t this what MSM does?
So it's bad when MSM does it, but it's okay when we do it because MSM did it first? Is that the logic here?
No it’s bad for anyone to do. We shouldn’t be doing it because MSM is doing it.
RIght, that's my point. It's bad that u/catsfive did it.
Agree. I'll do better next time. I don't miss the mark often, but, when I do... WHAMMO! RED BULL MOMENT.
So you're fake news and admitting it. Thanks.
makes me wonder if there's travel information in there in regards to his mother/grandfather that invalidates some of their story. What if he wasn't the real father or something?
Well, that's Obongo's dad's passport unfortunately.
Ya I thought we are certain he is born in Hawaii
As certain as we can be of anything about CIA people....?
This is BO Sr? Am I missing something?
The passport is Sr? Malik is step brother and based, chad, redpilled.
Oic.. Argument of him being natural born citizen. That I have no idea if the line is stretched on this or not.
Oh, I thought it was Obama's father passport and not Obama himself.
Correct, it's Obama's father's.
Malik is a national treasure. God bless him
It’s not Obama’s passport. It’s his dad’s
Malik is a grifting opportunist.
Could Malik be attempting to draw attention to a subtle detail within the passport? It's pretty obvious after looking at it for 5 seconds that it's Obama Senior's passport.
THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE
This was issued two years before Barack's birthday. It's his dad's passport. For fuck's sake, do you believe everything you see tweeted?
I miss Best Obama commenting on T_D on Reddit. What a time to be alive!
It was a great time to shitpost
This fake post should have been put on Facebook where all the fake posts go. Us anons need to do our research first, rather than being the first to post something like this.
Yeah, I totally got fooled by this one.
There is a reason why he had a faked BC. It was either he WAS born in Kenya (notice the date on the passport is 1959) or he was born in Hawaii BEFORE it was a state. Hawaii was made a state in 1959. (Did they make him younger than he really is? )
Either way he isn't a natural born citizen. It didn't matter if his mom was American or not. He had to be born on US soil.
Or maybe he was born in Indonesia
Nah. He travelled there when he was a boy with his mom and was probably adopted by her husband, Lolo Soetoro. They married in 1966.
Just to be clear, he had to be born on American soil to Americans for the presidency. Soil is not 'natural born' if your parents aren't citizens. Kamala violates this as well, because people don't care to comprehend the difference. You can't crawl over the border, drop a baby, and have it grow up to be President - you have to immigrate legally, become a citizen, then have your baby.
No you don't. Born in the US, you're a birthright citizen and can run for president.
"Amendment XIV, Section 1, Clause 1 of the U.S. Constitution directs that all persons born in the United States are U.S. citizens. This is the case regardless of the tax or immigration status of a person's parents."
No, it doesn't. You've put quotes around some flawed interpretation of it. It says "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside." and subject to the jurisdiction thereof means that the parents must be Americans, not visiting foreigners (non-Americans (non-citizens), and the children they make, are under the jurisdiction of their home country, not this one).
When you're in the US, even as a tourist, even as an illegal crawling over the border to drop a baby on US soil, you are subject to the jurisdiction here.
The exception would be royals and diplomats and their children. Anyone who has diplomatic immunity.
Tourists and people on work visas and such don't have diplomatic immunity. So they are subject to the laws here.
Surely you don't think tourists can come over here and rape and kill and sell drugs and rip the tags off mattresses with no fear of the po-po, do you?
So yes, anchor babies can one day be President. Scary, huh? 🤷♀️
‘Subject to jurisdiction of...’.
So many politicians are ignorant of these requirements and the media doesn’t want to change what they’ve been brainwashed into believing.
Yeah, you might want to go check on what you're claiming here.
Unless someone is here as a member of a royal family or a diplomat (or their spouse and kids and such) with diplomatic immunity, they are subject to the jurisdiction here.
Or do you think tourists have the right to run around the country breaking laws left and right?
I get that people don't like the idea of the very slim, teeny tiny, itsy bitsy chance that Harris might become President, but you don't get to keep adding conditions to the Constitution to stop that from happening.
As long as you're not the child of royals or diplomats or the like, if you're born in the US, you're a US citizen and can be President one day.
All this "Your parents and grandparents and your barber's second cousin's ex-husband has to have been born in the US for you to be a US citizen!!" shit is just asinine.
Seriously, where did this stuff come from? I never saw it before Harris became VP. Was it on a podcast or something? Or do you just see other people say it and you just repeat it?
Do some research on the amendment.
The writers of the constitution would not allow anyone to illegally enter the country and then drop spawn who become citizens. Makes no sense especially when looking at the rest of the constitution and the bill of rights.
There is a process for becoming a citizen that any foreigners can work through.
Those foreigners are subject to the jurisdiction of their home nations. As is their offspring. Until thy go through the citizenship application and process.
Makes perfect sense both spirit and letter of the law.
The fact that politicians continually ‘interpret’ these very detailed and specific laws illegally shows that they are complicit in weakening the USA in so many ways.
31 CFR § 515.329 - Person subject to the jurisdiction of the United States; person subject to U.S. jurisdiction. CFR prev | next § 515.329 Person subject to the jurisdiction of the United States; person subject to U.S. jurisdiction. The terms person subject to the jurisdiction of the United States and person subject to U.S. jurisdiction include:
(a) Any individual, wherever located, who is a citizen or resident of the United States;
(b) Any person within the United States as defined in § 515.330;
(c) Any corporation, partnership, association, or other organization organized under the laws of the United States or of any State, territory, possession, or district of the United States; and
(d) Any corporation, partnership, association, or other organization, wherever organized or doing business, that is owned or controlled by persons specified in paragraphs (a) or (c) of this section.
[50 FR 27437, July 3, 1985, as amended at 68 FR 14145, Mar. 24, 2003; 80 FR 2292, Jan. 16, 2015; 81 FR 13991, Mar. 16, 2016]
When the Constitution was written, there were no immigration laws. The first immigration law wasn't written until 1882. Remember that this country was founded on immigrants.
Do you really think visitors to our country, legal or otherwise, aren't subject to our laws? Seriously?
Edited to add:
Look up "birth tourism". There is an entire industry of getting pregnant women to the US in order for them to give birth here so that their child can be a US citizen.
Trump worked to make it more difficult for pregnant women to get a tourist visa because of birth tourism.
Don't you think it's odd that there is an entire industry related to something you believe isn't true? Odd that Trump changed tourist visas for pregnant women because of something you don't believe is true?
https://apnews.com/article/health-donald-trump-ap-top-news-international-news-politics-d4c42c5311ba8a6661855cadd12f0fed
‘Subject to jurisdiction of...’ does not mean not subject to laws. It’s easy enough to read when I sent as well as educate deeper if one wants to learn the more in depth meanings.
The whole drop spawn, be citizen is horseshit both at face value and in fact law. The ‘interpretation’ of black robed politically appointed people and politicians of this fact has made for a ridiculous situation and the USA the laughing stock of the world. It makes no sense to slow illegals to become citizens while ignoring immigration law. It weakens the nation. And it is not logical.
The majority of people have been brainwashed by media and politicians into believing this is law as well as proper.
Yes the USA was founded by immigrants. Immigrants who created laws, and then worked to build the nation. The USA isn’t a repository for dregs of society to come and loot and leach off the hard work of others.
MAGA...
You can argue that things shouldn't be the way they are. I'm not arguing in favor of how things are.
But to deny reality because it doesn't sit well with you is just nuts.
And the reality is that our legal system does, in fact, recognize people who were born here as US citizens, no matter where their parents were born.
You can argue until you're blue in the face, but it doesn't change the fact that our entire legal system recognizes people born on us soil are US citizens. No one is concerned with how you, personally, feel on the subject. 🤷♀️
According to the Supreme Court natural born just means soil
I knew he was from Kenya, - I heard a story years ago from a woman- who said his mom went into labor, and was supposed to fly out, instead, went into the water (ocean) and tried to ease her contractions. Was unable to ease those contractions, missed the flight - stayed in Kenya where he was born.
This isn’t his passport
There's a good documentary that came out around the 2012 election called Dreams From My Real Father. It digs into Obama's connection with communist propagandist and pornographer Frank Marshall Davis and the possibility of him being Obama's real father. It also goes into some detail about his time spent in Indonesia. It's an interesting rabbit hole to go down.
As far as I see it, you just did
The picture shows that the passport was renewed up until 1969, during which Obama Sr. had been through 3 wives and had 4 children (including Barack Jr.). Yet the passport has blank entry for wives & children.
I hate to say it.. but since his mom was American so is he... its hard to say she didn't spit him out...
The law at the time did not permit her to convey citizenship because of her age. Anyway, she had the kid in Kenya and brought it back to Hawaii where her parents did some wrangling to make it look like he was a citizen. Father was a UK citizen.
Not natural born citizen tho. If born out of us.
Yea I understand that argument, but there is no legal difference anywhere in the law that makes natural born citizen different from birthright citizen.
It's not like one gets social sec and then other doesn't or one gets a special passport..
I cant stand the guy, but its mentioned in the constitution without a definition..
But the constitution does make a separation, so it is their in this regard.
When a parent is ‘subject to jurisdiction of’ a nation other than the USA, they are bound by the laws of that other nation. And so is their spawn.
Squatting on USA soil does not make a person a citizen.
Your opinion does not change the facts. Born to a US citizen, you are a citizen, regardless of where you are born.
I love that the most factual take on this is the most downvoted. People here want to keep their binders on and ignore facts.
https://www.humorousmathematics.com/post/rothschildism-the-illuminati-nazi-world-order-nwo