Tired of the America hate
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This isn’t about liberals or anything. It’s about remarks like: “America has No culture” or “American culture is just a watered down version of stolen European culture”. It gets annoying to hear such rubbish when you’re a patriot. I’m tired of it.
I’ve also heard that America never was anything but a copy of other cultures.
I mostly hear this from people who spent a lot of their time on campus. Paying activists 20k a year to spew this filth, just to take the test and get a C-.
I hear from extremists. Either hardcore liberal ideologues or from uneducated and disenfranchised "burn it all" types. Both have defiant disorders and are excited to be edgy and destructive but aren't the people that build things. They become authoritarian without exception. For exampleIn the micro on websites, and in the macro with countries.
You’re assessment is correct. The “burn it all types” will say things like, “America never had culture” and “we should break up America into smaller countries and make people choose where to go”.
Sorry, I just had to get this off my chest
I quite agree with you and I'm getting tired of it also. Hang in there, 45-47 is on the way.
Most people cannot identify their own culture because they haven't left their own country. Once you spend any amount of time in a foreign country, once you say "Gosh, that's not the way it is back home," then you have successfully identified your own culture. Those people who think that America just copies European culture should go visit Europe and see how unique American culture truly is. I have 25 years of experience with Japan, so I think I have a good idea of what my home American culture is like (although not so much anymore since it's gone to shit).
I always respond with "American culture is the most widely consumed culture in the world. Everyone watches our movies, listens to our music, and wears our fashion."
Then I ask what culture is better and why. Then ask why they don't live in whichever country they seem to like more, and ask why people want to come here so badly.
You can also wait for them to mention food as culture, because that's where the left ALWAYS goes. You can then accuse them of being racists for reducing culture to food. They literally never mention anything other than food in terms of cultural offerings.
I will need to use this if I hear the BS America has no culture.
I would have told them to study up on the 1776 distinct bullet points of American Culture.
Consider the source that says such garbage. On social media I tell others to move to Europe. I have told one family to live to China.
Why would we want to keep up the normal -keep the peace mentality? After they all went so deep into this pysop against basic truth?
They are the abusers at this point, but they are drunk with this sickness and they have to acknowledge they have an addiction.
Americanism is the greatest culture to ever exist in the history of the world. Still is.
The rest of the world, Europe and Australia in particular, never seems to shut about about America. Ever. I've noticed no one believes in the cabal/DS in the rest of the world. It's always America. They won't even blame their own politicians. Nope. It's always America.
Glad someone else noticed that. I was tired of pointing it out before I took a break for this place
Loving all the segregation on here. Happens a bit. I guess human nature cannot ever come together huh
Culture:
"the customs, arts, social institutions, and achievements of a particular nation, people, or other social group."
How would you describe the American culture?
“How would you describe American culture?”
America has been the richest, most prosperous, innovative and blessed nation in the history of the world.
Why? Because our country was founded on and our culture is based on God and biblical values. Because we are a historically rugged, brave people. We have invented the vast majority of new stuff (in every field). We believe in hard work, love our country and respect our differences. We embrace other peoples, as long as they embrace our ideals and pull in the same direction. We are an amalgamation of the best of the world.
But here’s the thing. Most old countries describe their culture in food, language, art, history, etc. Specifics.
Americas culture is in ideals and freedom.
I would say that the American culture was rugged individualism, liberty, free speech, industriousness and commerce, honesty and generosity.
But I'm not so sure those traits really describe modern America at all. There doesn't seem to be a unifying culture. Seemingly large numbers of people have different values; grievance, entitlement, resentment, sloth, licentiousness, hedonism, viciousness and conformity. As well, the outward appearance of our nation takes on an ever more soulless and uniform appearance. Ugly architecture and strip malls all full of the same stores and the same restaurants. Freeways and suburban sprawl from sea to shining sea.
“I would say that the American culture was rugged individualism, liberty, free speech, industriousness and commerce, honesty and generosity.” (And God.)
Agreed.
Our unifying culture was God (God’s morals) and freedom. The two go hand in hand. Freedom only works with a moral people. Freedom needs structure. Freedom alone is a two edged sword and corruptible. Which is why the DS is and has been trying to destroy anything Godly and moral. Separate the two and you have the DS mantra…”Do what thou wilt.”
Modern America is being destroyed by design.
A constitutional republic initiated by a distinct 1776 bullet points.
Our culture is regional, so it is difficult to lump it all together. Some stuff came from people who settled here or came here, but it melded together to make something unique. Appalachian music morphed into country music, then country western as we expanded across the continent, a communal spirit developed and grown around churches, barn raising, shape note singing, gospel music, jazz, the musical!, innovations in engineering, untouched by the rest of the world, the "church green" in almost every single New England town. Furniture making, Agricultural practices , both home spun and educational, so productive students come from all over the world to attend our Universitys of Agriculture, Our American artists from the Hudson School of Painting to Andrew Wyeth, our regional foods. America is and always will be a tapestry of many people from many places, but it is unique. Our continent from sea to shining sea, is beautiful. You can go deep sea fishing off the Keys in Florida, or off the coast of New England, without changing currencies or value of it. We used to be on top of the world with manufacturing, but got sold out to the lowest bidder. And we all eat hot dogs on Fourth of July after watching the parade, cheering to American music of John Phillip Sousa. Apple Pie!
Tell them (under your breath perhaps) to wait a few more months to finally understand how deadly the "Culture" has been. Because understand, they will.
Everything people typically call Culture is nothing but brainwashing methods for the Cabal for long term shaping of social landscape
American culture is the most potent culture in the world. Most of the world has appropriated it to a huge degree.
People in non-english speaking countries know the names of American movie stars and follow American politics more than their own countries. They wear American fashions. They eat American food. They organize their governments based on American government. They watch translated American TV. They instituted freer markets raising billions out of poverty. Etc.
Sounds global.
What would Rome look like without the Greek or the earlier Etruscans? What would the Korean peninsula look like without the influence from China? Persia without the Assyrian Empire?
So many other examples in history.
Nobody got here by themselves, and history is full of both peaceful and aggressive cultural transfers.
The whole argument is such a communist play, they want to depress the population, getting them to disassociate with the culture they grew up in.
Most people have a hard time defining what culture is anyway.
Some people talk about culture as if it's a game stat, quantified in numbers.
Most truly American culture celebrates conservative values like family, freedom, and rugged individualism. There are groups in Eastern Europe that do cowboy/western re-enactments and I hear it’s wildly popular. I think a 4th of July parade with hokey floats and high school marching bands where people line the sides of a small town Main Street is an example of uniquely American culture. As is a backyard cookout.
When my son was in 7th grade (c. 2008) at a private Christian school, they hired a Ukrainian guy (who had married an American and recently moved here from Ukraine) to teach 7th grade. The dude chastised my son and other kids for their exuberantly friendly behavior - such as high-fiving each other. He told me, when I asked why this was a problem, that in his country this would be considered improper behavior in school. He wanted the kids to be somber little scholars…. I told him that as long as they were not overly disruptive in class, I thought the kids were being normal happy 12 year olds and high-fiving was part of their culture, which ought to be respected.
Americans are good people. As long as the hate is directed at the globalist deep state scum. Those people just need to be better exposed. Can only hope when Trump returns he drops the hammer on em!
As my folks used to say back in Those Fabulous Sixties: “Love it or leave it “.
I always remember the quote, “They hate us, cause they ain’t us…”
We here in the UK (airstrip one) do like to bash the USA, consider the "ungrateful colonials" saying.
I am not one to go in for this, the Americans do have a superb sense of humour, are unbelievably friendly in the flyover states and are not all Cletus the slack jawed yokel by any means, and are a warrior race as others on this planet are.
As for US culture, that isn't a lot sad to say, but american society is probably the best there is. I have done a lot of traveling and seen a lot of people and places and the god fearing american citizen is one of the best.
This is often said in reference to the English, believe it or not, or even "White people" in general, which is even more bizarre, but allows them to then label anything that might previously have been culture as white "supremacy". It becomes clear this is all a demoralisation effort of worm-tongue enemies with unquenchable hatred, another hydra head of the invisible enemy.
I can understand how some think Americans have no culture. It’s been diluted over years and years of destructive propaganda and policies.
America has tons of culture. That culture has been built over time, and was developed from people who came together under similar ideals.
America is a culture of freedom, with a large number of the inventions we use today.
Our culture, which can never be stated in full as it is too vast to fully encompass, has changed the world -- for better or worse is arguable depending on time frame being argued.
America didn't steal anything; people brought their cultures over here, assimilated and added it into ours for generations to build on them. But even still, a lot of cultures were developed through life across the frontier, built upon years of hardship and the building blocks of family values.
You can tell who consumes modern day mainstream media through Reddit or Facebook or Twitter, because they say the stupidest, most reductionist garbage that is instantly defeated by the many generations that built the world.
And of course, while they spout their bullshit from one cheek, they're criticizing us and cancelling us for not wanting more people forcing their cultures on to us.
Hypocrisy. They only know hypocrisy.
America has no culture? I do think we have major issues, but let me tell you something.
I love America in a big way, but hate the power elite and not affraid to say it.
Both my grandfathers fought in WW2.
My paternal GF was an early frogman. Parachuted in before D-day to blow bridges. In those days they were more about explosives then land sea and air technical.
This is the thing.
I have travelled the world and it is not what you see in the movies.
If you go to France to visit the eifel tower?
You will see dozens of military patrol with automatic machine guns. Why?
Their country is a god damn hellhole mess and their citizens are unarmed and you have tourists that are clueless and will never comprehend why they are there.
Same thing in every so called cultured country.
What seperates America?
About 10 years ago a french cartoonist was killed because he posted Muhammad in a cartoon.
In Garland, Texas some people said fuck that, so they held a conference of posting Muhammad pics and talking about their backward culture.
Some Jihadists decided to massacre the attendees.
They drove all the way from Arizona, but as they pulled their automatic rifles from the trunk?
They were gunned down.
They were gun-downed by attendees of the conference. Not the military or police.
I must add, tho. I do think one of the guys involved was off duty police serving as security for the event.
That my friends, is culture.
Decide, which you like. American or that effeminate european thing.
Hang on. Now let me just check you don't generalise blacks or anything right? I've seen a lot of anti black posts on here and people use the defence because they deserve it. We ain't being hypocrites whatsoever right?
I am half-black.
.... You can get a coke and mcnuggets all over the world. Think with logic.
America IS culture. America is a melting pot of the entire world’s culture crafted by men who knew what it meant to be free. America belongs to all of it’s people, wherever they come from. That’s what makes us unique.
I can't stand it when ANY politician spends OUR time listening to them explain how awful and hopeless our country is and how even now it's a shitty 3rd world country instead of in real English non comm words, what they're going to do to make America better.
It's unbelievably insulting to our intelligence to just use advertising and psych methods to gas us up.
Very weird dream last night: do you remember the Hershey's commercial "the Great American Chocolate Bar" jingle? It had a patriotic theme to it. I have no idea why that came up in my dreams - I am not really a big chocolate fan. I will eat it, but I don't crave it like some people do. Now I can't get the song out of my head. But it was an oddly comforting thing to wake up to - like we are all in this together and we've got this.
Keep the faith fren...
Good thread, we need to focus on culture that is uniquely Amercian, and i am sure there are plenty of examples
America doesn’t have any culture. If you would travel around the world you would see it clear as day. I didnt notice until i traveled, and when i realized what we were missing it made me sad. Still makes me sad. But its true.
They say you don’t get culture shock from traveling, you get culture shock when you return home, and thats what happened to me.
American culture is hunting, fishing, rodeos, country music, bbqs, church, working hard, inventions, just to name a few.
Why do these things not exist everywhere in this country today? Because the people who want to destroy America have spent decades destroying our culture. They've spent decades convincing people country music is for hillbillies. Church is evil. Guns are evil. American culture undoubtedly exists but most people don't choose to participate in American culture.
I've traveled and lived abroad for many many years. Bali undoubtedly has culture and traditions. But many pockets of Bali consist of all foreigner expats who have driven Bali culture out of that location and choose not to participate in it. Just because the culture doesn't exist in that pocket doesn't mean culture doesn't exist. Same with all the touristic and expat parts of Mexico. What's the theme here? Mass immigration is one of the things that kills culture. If you went to Nuevo Vallarta, Mexico, you'd be convinced mexico has no culture. The difference is that many of those places only receive immigrants in pockets of communities and it's not every major city getting invaded. Whereas the US, its almost everywhere.
Also, the US and other parts of the west are the only places where we are taught in school and in the media to hate our country and culture. American culture exists, but you now have to travel within our own country to the places it hasn't been killed to experience it
Don't forget the tractor pulls!
Tractor pulls and farming! Very American indeed.
See? Even the Russian spy recognizes American culture!
Thanks, comrade.
I wasn't ever taught in public schools to hate America.
Consider yourself lucky. My high school didn't teach that to me but my college taught me that and to hate myself for being white. Took me a couple years to break the programming.
Yeah my colleges didn't teach me that either. I can't imagine so easily being led astray. Now sometimes, just like here they offered points of view that I didn't hold but I wasn't "brainwashed" or otherwise forced to abandon any notions that didn't sit right with me, after examination from all sides. Offered many opportunities to practice critical thinking but not be held to any mistaken positions once they didn't withstand scrutiny with new and/or revised and updated information. Man, I Iearned some stuff that I wish weren't true. But it is, and man this place is complex.
Anyway, glad you came back around. Pretty spectacular place.
In short of country music, rodeos, & bbqs - everything else you named is part of many other cultures too, America included. But I don’t think we can claim those other things as a being American culture. Also I would say that country music, rodeos, & bbqs are a Southern (American) culture.
America is America. You can subdivide it all you like, but you won't be able to remove the American aspect from your subdivision.
Also, American car culture, American movies, American music.
I grew up in California and believe it or not, California traditionally is a southwestern cowboy hat wearing, rodeo going place. I can speak to my culture here and have never lived in places like Michigan or New York and can't attest first hand to what traditional culture may exist there. The beautiful thing about a country of this size, is we have many different types of culture all within the borders. Even Germany, a country the size of Montana, the north and the south have very different cultures. For example, lederhosen and durndles come from south eastern germany (and parts of austria and northern italy) and traditionally speaking have no place in any other parts of Germany. Just because lederhosen doesn't exist in the north doesn't mean it isn't a part of German culture. I mean, they even speak different dialects that are almost different languages, but that is a conversation for another time.
You don't notice American culture because you live in it. American culture is the most potent culture in the world. Most of the world has appropriated it to a huge degree.
People in non-english speaking countries know the names of American movie stars and follow American politics more than their own countries. They wear American fashions. They eat American food. They organize their governments based on American government. They instituted freer markets raising billions out of poverty.
Name any culture that's more potent than American culture.
thats pop culture, which is fake a gay.
i was very impressed with Hungarian culture, even though i didn’t speak the language. Theres just a certain vibe to the people that simple doesn’t exist in America.
Its like the difference between a living person, and their dead body.
Youd have to experience it for yourself, and i hope you do someday.
I've experienced many cultures; been to more countries than I can count, on many continents. One thing I always noticed is how much American culture has permeated them.
Even traveling throughout the US you can experience many American cultures. Consider Louisiana vs Nebraska.
Just like you are, I'm trying to use words to explain something that goes beyond words. I'm just using concrete examples while you're not even trying.
Just because you’re used to it (standard/invisible to you) doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist haha
Then why does every country in the world partake of our biggest cultural exports? Namely, movies and music? Are you telling me that our art is not a cultural offering and that it's not consumed by other nations?
And could the argument be indoctrination just like why the majority can't / won't wake up?
I've traveled all over the world, too and let me tell you that I'm always so glad to be back home in the USA after returning!
I have relatives in Europe who would give anything to come and live in the US.
My conclusion is that when traveling you see the sights, eat in restaurants and see historic areas, buildings, museums, but try living in any of those countries even for a few weeks...it's not as you think.
A few years back I spoke to someone who moved from the US to the UK. They couldn't believe how hard it was to just get services for their apartment set up...internet, electric, etc. It was an awful experience for them and this is where people speak English.
You know the saying..."grass is always greener"...well, more than likely it's really not. Don't even start talking healthcare in other countries because though it's not ideal here these days, it's much better than many other places.
Many will give anything to come here. Not just bad people. And they don't have to be subhuman and part of some evil plan to want to come here. It's that good! Like you said, "anything".
Yes, so true.
Though many here have been disillusioned with what has happened in our country the last few years, it's still one of the best places to live in the world and there are many opportunities for someone coming here and willing to work and contribute to their communities.