The second this dummy in Atlanta said she wants to arrest Rudy… it was game over.
No one has the experience he does with RICO cases and having convictions stick. Potus will get a conviction, but it will be quickly overturned. Sloppy rico cases get overturned quickly and that happened many times with Rudy and Gotti.
Rudy is basically luring the DNC underlings into committing crimes on behalf of an organization and he’ll work his way to the top.
Rudy does play a pretty good fall guy. Remember Sweaty Rudy with the black hair dye dripping down onto his face during the first round of Election interference "hearings"?
Will we get that Rudy again, or will they be singing Rudy Can't Fail this time around? Either way it should be quite the show...
JFK Jr was not running for Senate when he died. I lived in NYC at the time. The favorite for Democratic nomination was going to be Nita Lowry.
Giuliani was the Republican candidate. Even if JFK Jr lived and decided to run he would have entered the Democratic primary. So Rudy would not have replaced him.
"If Hillary doesn't run and if Nita does, we will all rally around Nita," explains Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.), who quickly adds: "Obviously, Hillary is a more glamorous, well-known candidate. But that's the nature of politics."
JFK Jr is not mentioned at all. Why? He was not running for Senate. He was not even thinking about running for Senate. The stories that came out afterwards are ahistorical. JFK Jr was not seen as serious candidate for anything back then...certainly not the Senate.
Yes. He was not “official” candidate at that time, and certainly would not have gotten Dem establishment backing without serious arm twisting. He likely would have won as an Independent, imo.
However, a fair amount of evidence that he was lining up financial backers and seriously exploring a bid for the NY Senate seat in 2000. His non-establishment status and name recognition made him a serious threat to all NY Senate contenders.
However, a fair amount of evidence that he was lining up financial backers and seriously exploring a bid for the NY Senate seat in 2000.
There's not. I lived in NYC at the time he was seems as a lightweight.
He had a prestigious job in the district attorney's office but he failed his bar exam at least twice. He almost lost his job because he couldn't pass the bar exam.
He was seen as coasting on his name. He also explicitly shot down. Any idea that he was running for office and said he wanted to focus on his magazine?
He likely would have won as an Independent, imo.
I'm not sure any third party candidate has ever won an election in New York state, so it seems kind of like a rough way to go.
If a strong Democratic leading candidate ran as a third party, all I think that would do is would allow the Republican candidate to win.
I don't even know what the ideology/ circumstances of a strong third party candidate in New York would look like
Based on my limited review off the history, it appears that JFK Jr.'s "exploration" was a feint, and he was focusing on his magazine among other things as you say. However, it appears to have been an intentional feint just like Trump's feints in 1988, 2000, and 2008 Presidential campaigns. Unclear the exact purpose of doing this beyond the obvious raising of public profile.
I don't remember any exploration at all, but if he did it might have been a trial run to see if he had any chance of actually getting close to a nomination. Then when he found he had no support he didn't run.
I do remember basically other people asking him and him saying he was going to focus on the magazine. He had no interest in a political career right now
We are watching the greatest political "rope a dope" of all time. We are still in the corner taking the last of their punch energy. Just waiting for the right opening.
I had NO IDEA that's how sealed indictments worked at all!!!
I was thinking about this new Trump indictment… but more importantly, who else they indicted.
Sidney Powell I believe will play a vital role, but I’d like to focus on Rudy Giuliani— Mr. RICO himself.
Now that Mr RICO himself was indicted, it somehow feels like this isn’t a coincidence…
Hear me out….
A fren told me to watch “Fear City New York Vs The Mafia.”
It was about the operation to take down all the Mafia families in New York.
In the series, Donald Trump made an appearance. So did Rudy Giuliani, who as you may or may not know, led the 1980s federal prosecution of New York City mafia bosses as U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York.
11 organized crime figures, including the heads of New York City's "Five Families", were indicted by United States Attorney Rudolph Giuliani under the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO).
The operation began in the 1970’s.
How long did that operation take?
How many years?
The largest organized crime bust in history.
What are we dealing with?
CABAL?
Could they be considered organized crime?
Compare the Mafia to the Cabal.
Post Trump Presidency, how many resignations have we seen of top CEOs, Senators, Congress?
How many terminations in the FBI, DOJ?
September, 2018- Q said there was 50,000+ sealed indictments. There was an average of 4-6k sealed indictments being added every single month.
That number is in the hundreds of thousands now.
What is a Sealed Indictment?
A sealed indictment is the result of a SECRET grand jury proceeding.
A secret grand jury has 12-23 US citizens that are given information and testimony from a prosecutor. The prosecutor is prosecuting a person, who has NO IDEA this is going on.
The jury decides if there is sufficient evidence/cause prosecute this person with a crime.
In which case they file a sealed indictment. It stays off the record and the person has no idea. They won’t know it until they are arrested.
The prosecutor is a Fed US Attorney, A County District Attorney, or State Attorney General.
I believe it’s being done this way because we are prosecuting organized crime (i.e. The RICO Act).
Everything has to be lined up. They can’t indict one person at a time because it would tip off the rest, causing a chain reaction.
When they unseal one, all gets unsealed to prosecute EVERYONE. Everyone gets arrested at the same time.
Sessions ~~> Huber
Huber had the ability to prosecute & empanel a grand jury outside of DC (important). Huber assigned a team of 470 investigators (attorneys) + IG + legal jurisdiction across ALL 50 states.
Why am I telling you all this?
Because good things TAKE TIME.
In the 1970’s-1980’s operation to take down the mafia, they DID NOT pull the trigger until they had absolutely everything and there were no holes to slither out of.
Because, It had to be done right.
It had to be done according to the rule of law. It had to carry weight. It had to be proven in the court of law.
There could be no mistakes.
#3725
Enter SPACE FORCE…
You do know Trump created an entirely new military branch, don’t you?
There is a very important reason Trump created Space Force.
SPACE FORCE is not about shooting aliens with pew pews… it’s not Star Wars.
Quantum computing plays a big role in the military world now. So do satellites….
Nearly every single career choice re Space Force is in intelligence & satellites.
What role can MIL INTEL play?
What does intelligence do?
What do satellites do?
What can they collect?
It is my belief that Space Force was created to help save America & has been collecting evidence since the 2018 midterms, + 2020 Presidential Election, + 2022 midterms.
Ok, let’s backtrack….
How long did it take to take down the NYC Mafia?
How long do you think it should take to tear down a global cabal with centuries of roots?
What are we dealing with? CABAL? Could they be considered organized crime?
Compare the Mafia to the Cabal.
High probability NYC mafia = Cabal; NYC mafia is group of Italian crime families; Cabal is a group of 13 families engaged in organized banking crime & usury, maritime law fraud, and trust law theft, reportedly from Northern Italy. NYC mafia is likely just one branch of the Cabal.
Cabal obviously infinitely larger than some mickey mouse mob operation in comparison.
However, I believe the no such agency, Space Force and military resources available are also proportionally larger and certainly more sophisticated than whatever NYC had in the 70s and 80s.
I had NO IDEA that's how sealed indictments worked at all!!!
That's because it's not how they work.
Like this part is false
Huber
Huber assigned a team of 470 investigators (attorneys) + IG + legal jurisdiction across ALL 50 states.
Huber's retired. He's done. He didn't return any indictments. Trump actually attacked Huber for this.
And the 470 attorneys? They were not assigned Huber. That's the number of people who worked in the Inspector General's office, they were not at Huber's disposal. They worked for IG Michael Horowtiz and that was for all the issues the IG's office was working on. They don't build criminal cases, they investigate internal DOJ issues and, at best, make a referral to other prosecutors. They are not the workforce for the Huber or any other special counsel. They have their own to do.
I saw that Netflix show he mentions. It's good. He talks about the Mafia Commission case.
But the Mafia Commission case took less than two years to the indictment and they did not keep the the indictment sealed for a long time.....they actually released the indictment early because the local news got wind of it.
The initial wiretaps involving the Concrete Club scheme were in April 1983. This was of a street level guy and not one of the Bosses on the Commission.
The indictment and arrests happened in March 1985. The feds moved pretty quickly.
For most of those 23 months there was no indict of the Commission, they were still investigation, going from the street level guys to each Boss. And they also wanted a big crime to show the Commission was involved in violence so they worked to tie the Commission to an earlier murder.
It is NOT an example of a sealed indictment sitting around for years.
And they were dropping other indictments.
Furthermore, they brought earlier indictments. They did not keep a bunch sitting around.
Before going after the Commission, the FBI organized teams to focus on each family. And they tried those cases.
Paul Castellano was indicted in 1984 the year before the 1985 RICO indictment
https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Paul_Castellano#Legal_problems
Paul Castellano, the reputed head of the Gambino organized-crime family, and 20 other people were charged in Manhattan yesterday with operating a group that committed 25 murders and scores of other crimes.
The charges were contained in a 51- count Federal indictment, which described the 68-year-old Mr. Castellano as the boss of a crew that had participated in a ''pattern of racketeering activity'' since 1973.
Federal officials announced the indictment yesterday of ''the entire leadership of the Colombo family'' of organized crime on charges of widespread racketeering in New York City.
The 51-count Federal indictment charged 11 men, including Carmine Persico, who was described as the boss, with operating the Colombo group through ''a pattern of racketeering activity'' that included extortion, theft, loan sharking, gambling, bribery and drug trafficking.
other cases
Columbo Boss, Carmine The Snake Persico, was also indicted in 1981.
Gene Gotti, John Gotti's brother was arrested for dealing heroin in 1983.
Mob run drywall cartel 1983. Like the Concrete Club there was a drywall club.
It just doesn't match this idea of dozens, let alone hundreds, let alone thousands of indictment just sitting around.
One key piece in the Netflix documentary. is how the FBI/DOJ learned to use the RICO law. It came out in 1970, They didn't use it for 9 years and the DOJ finally sent FBI officers to go take a college class with the law's author. He did a week long seminar with them. FBI starting prepping and investigation for RICO cases before Rudy became the US attorney. The first time the NY DOJ used RICO was in 1979 before Rudy against a mob boss and the longshoreman's union. Giuliani did not become the US attorney in NYC until 1983. He came up with using RICO to go after the Commission, but the FBI/DOJ had been using RICO against the Mafia for years by then.
But even when the DOJ went after the NYC in the 1980's, they didn't even do 1,000 indictments. They didn't even do 100 RICO indictments. The folks who were "counting" sealed indictments were doing it wrong. The things they were counting as indictments were sealed proceedings and there are many types of court records that are sealed. This is because the general public can't distinguish one sealed proceeding from another in the public databases.
Have you ever heard a minor's criminal record being sealed? That's a type of sealed proceeding. Every application for a search warrant or a wiretap is sealed.
When I watched Fear City I thought it was a message to us frens.
Wictor or someone had a really thought provoking article on the people involved in the mob takedown in Atlantic City. Trump and his now deceased brother were very involved in helping, and there is corroboration in an FBI vault dump from a few years back. But Bill Barr and Rod Rosenstein were also involved, as was Robert Mueller. Don't hate me LOL! That's what the article said. Here's the article. I actually saved something and was later able to find! It wasn't Wictor it was Rex. I know there are mixed feelings about him but the article is sourced and interesting nonetheless:
f you accept that Trump has been a very valuable source for the FBI since at least 1981, you can start to see his influence in major FBI/DOJ takedowns more clearly.
For example, in the early 1990s, the FBI was making a major push against the Mob in New York. The Gambino crime family in New York was brought down in 1992. The Mafia Commission between February 25, 1985 and November 19, 1986 broke up the Five Families. Each of these probes would have relied on valuable source informants, much like the Scarfo takedown in 1981.
Given the above and the Mafia's power in the construction sector, what are the chances that Donald J Trump was a valuable source for these investigations? Answer - in my opinion, very high.
Now consider these remarkable 'coincidences':
Who led the Mafia Commission prosecution? Rudy Giuliani.
Who led the Gambino prosecution? Robert Mueller, who was USAG for the DOJ Criminal Division between 1990-1993. Who was working for Mueller at DOJ, during this time?
Rod Rosenstein.
And who was the Deputy Attorney General between May 1990 and 26 November, 1992, before becoming the Attorney-General?
William Barr.
And how about this?
Barr's DAG in the 1990's was George Terwilliger. His son, Zachary, was Grassley's DOJ investigator for Judiciary. Zachary Terwilliger then became Rod Rosenstein's Chief of Staff, before being appointed United States Attorney, for the Eastern District of Virginia. Who did Zachary Terwilliger replace in Virginia?
Dana Boente. Ring a bell?
Boente is now the FBI Chief Legal Counsel
Someone tell Rex there are 2 other big connections. Barr's DAG was Terwilliger, his son was Grassley's DOJ investigator for Judiciary. He then became RR's Chief of Staff, then replaced Dana Boente when he left DOJ to become FBI Chief Counsel. 2. It wasn't just the mob it was BCCI https://t.co/1uoAsYupeH
— DawsonSField (@DawsonSField) March 11, 2019
Ask yourself this - would these men know that Trump has been a long-standing patriot and FBI source, for decades? Answer - yes. Would any of these men work for Trump, if he was the traitor and Russian agent, that leftist journalists have been accusing him of?
Answer - no way.
2019 - Mueller is SC. Rosenstein is DAG. Barr is now AG.
And how about Donald J Trump, patriot, billionaire, FBI informant?
President of the United States of America.
Have any leftist reporters made these connections? No, of course not. They're still chasing shiny objects down endless information dead-ends, chasing that elusive piece of evidence that they know must exists, proving 'OrangeManBad'.
My advice?
Laugh and ignore them. As they've run around like headless chickens, we can see that Trump has assembled a mighty team to drain the Swamp. The strategy has been nothing short of genius and the execution, masterful.
It is now far too late for the enemies of The Republic to respond. Taken by complete surprise, their fates are sealed.
Buckle up. The Storm is upon us.
The stage is set, for Trump's hammer to fall.
excellent article by Rex. i read it a few yrs ago n since have been following 'band' ppl. so many of the prosecutors we watch today have 'band' connections. about 12 so far n imo that's mathematically impossible to be a mere coincidence
5/'19 Barr
" Little did we know that we'd be getting the old band back together again."
I like your reference to BCCI and AG Barr. I had assumed that Barr was George HWB’s guy, but clearly he is/was a whitehat or got flipped at some point per his pursuit of BCCI. BCCI was a big piece of CIA money laundering and source of funds used to corrupt and overthrow governments. It appears to have been setup by George HWB and his other 4 CIA NWO buddies in the 1970s either directly or indirectly.
Given the above and the Mafia's power in the construction sector, what are the chances that Donald J Trump was a valuable source for these investigations? Answer - in my opinion, very high.
If you watch Fear City, Trump being a "valuable source" for the Mafia Commission trial is basically zero. The evidence they got, they got through direct surveillance and wiretapping of mafia members in NYC. Do you think the FBI didn't know the Mafia was involved in construction unions and gambling in in NY/NJ area? The whole point of Fear City was the FBI, post J. Edgar Hoover, finally getting serious about the MOB and the RICO law being the tool to go after the mob.
Trump was associated with a Labor Racketeer named Dan Sullivan.
Sullivan also an FBI informant. This didn't make Sullivan a good guy. This is was more like an insurance policy a lot of guys who were full crooked or just slight bent were FBI informants.
Trump worked with Sullivan even before he went into NJ. And later Trump went into business with Sullivan. They were partners in a drywall company
This was a big problem for Trump. It's 1981 and he is trying to open a casino and he needs a casino license. The problem is the New Jersey Division of Gaming Enforcement won't give licenses to guys with crooked business partners or even slightly bent guys.
To solve this Trump could just cut Sullivan loose. But he doesn't want to do that because Trump is trying to buy/lease parcels of land to put together for his casino. Sullivan owned that land with Kenneth Shapiro, a gangster who was like the banker of the Philly mob. And Trump leased the land to build his casino from them.
And that's not even the craziest Trump working with Atlantic City mobsters story.
There was one piece of land Trump wanted for another parking lot.
On this land was unsuccessful night club.
Unsuccessful because it never got a liquor license.
Why? Because it was owned by the Philly Mob. And not just fully crooked guys either. Straight up killers.
Salvatore Testa was one of the owners. Testa was a hitman who became of a fully made member of the Philly Mob at the age of 24 because he made his bones as a hitman and because his dad was the Boss until he was killed in the most famous bombing in history of the US mob. Famous because another Boss, Bruce Springsteen wrote about the Bombing in his song Atlantic City.
Because it would look bad for Trump to working with hitmen. His lawyer found a solution.
New Jersey state investigative records show that Trump paid $1.1 million for the site, after the title was transferred from Testa and Narducci to Patrick McGahn’s secretary and then to a Trump entity.
If that name McGahn sounds familiar? That's because he was the uncle of Trump's White House Counsel Don McGahn.
So Trump is closely working with mobsters and the NJ DGE won't give him a license if he is working with mobsters.
So what does he do? He lies. He tries to tell everyone what he thinks they want to here.
and that is what people don't get about the document you linked to.
It's a Cover Your Ass document.
The FBI agent wrote this document after the Special Agent in Charge of the main NJ FBI office called him up and Do you want to tell me what in the hell is going on? I just got a call from the NJ DGE asking about one of confidential informants? WTF did you do?!
Trump tried to the get the DGE off his back by telling them that the FBI vouches for Sullivan. So the DGE calls the FBI and say Donald Trump is telling you think Dan Sullivan is clean. So the SAC calls this guy and says you need to put out this fire. So this guy now has to write a memo explaining everything that happened.
There are two parts of this that absolutely kill me.
Trump playing dumb telling the FBI he read in the newspapers that organized crime is involved in Atlantic City! In the newspapers! Meanwhile he's going around bragging that he's working with Daniel Sullivan. "He's the guy that killed Jimmy Hoffa," Trump would tell people. His lawyer Roy Cohn is the lawyer for Fat Tony Salerno and Paul Castellano. The heads of the two most powerful mafia families in the country. Both of them owned a concrete company that Trump was buying his concrete from. Shocked! I'm shocked
https://youtu.be/SjbPi00k_ME?t=9
The second part is Trump trying to get the FBI to agree to the lies he told the NJ DGE. Again by telling them what he thinks they want to here. I'm concerned about my repuation I'll let you do an uncover operation in the casino......LOL....THERE's NO CASINO at this point. It's September 1981. He won't even finalize his deal with the hitman for the parking lot until 1982. The Casino doesn't open until 1984. To use an east coast word, it's a fugazy, it's a check that is going to bounce.
When the FBI guy says this is nuts, I can't promise you anything, Trump tries to find out who he could talk to. Why because without that casino license he will never open a casino. And the DGE tells Trump we spoke to your business partner, Sullivan, and he was hiding his background and his business activities. So Trump tells the DGE, look talk to the FBI, Then the FBI guy has to tell his boss that Trump told the DGE the FBI would vouch for him and we can "nip this thing in the bud."
On Sept. 21, 1981, the FBI got a strange call from Trump. He said he had traveled to Trenton the previous week to meet with Mickey Brown, the director of New Jersey’s Division of Gaming Enforcement. Trump was worried about the status of his application for a casino license. Brown told Trump that everything was on track except for “one problem” that might draw out the investigation — his ties to Sullivan, according to an FBI report.
Brown said that Sullivan had not been candid with investigators about his background and his business activities.
To defend himself and “nip things in the bud,” Trump said he told Brown that Sullivan had introduced him to two FBI agents and was close to the agency.
And to be clear. Trump's offer to the FBI was, in fact, a fugazy. There never was an undercover operation. It never happened.
By late September, the FBI proposal was in a “thoroughly finished state,” but, Stowe said, it apparently never came to fruition.
So how did Trump get his casino license?
A. He got out of some of his businesses with Sullivan including the drywall company
B. He lied to the NJ DGE about his other dealings with Sullivan
Under pressure from regulators, Trump “advised the Division that he would not have any future personal, social or business dealings with Sullivan other than in the context of their Atlantic City lessor-lessee relationship.”
Despite what he told gaming officials, Trump stayed in touch with Sullivan. In early 1982, he tentatively offered Sullivan a job as his organization’s chief labor negotiator, with a $75,000 salary, according to a civil lawsuit Sullivan filed against New Jersey authorities in 1983.
Trump having to get out of the drywall company turned out to be a stroke of luck
Around that time, Trump took a step that would complicate the gaming review. He agreed to finance Sullivan’s purchase of Circle Industries, a drywall manufacturer that employed Sullivan.
Sullivan told Stowe and another agent about the Circle acquisition plans, according to a report they wrote on May 7, 1981. It said that Sullivan, Trump and a third man, then president of Circle, “will be equal, one-third partners,” with “Sullivan overseeing labor relations and Trump financing the enterprise.”
Circle Industries was among a group of some 20 drywall makers that secretly referred to themselves as “the club.” The companies held significant power in New York’s construction industry because of the importance of their product in so many projects.
Investigators identified some of the companies under investigation as Ace Partitions Inc., 2216 Bath Avenue, Brooklyn; the Circle Industries Corporation, 4817 Baldwin Avenue, the Bronx;
Makes sense that in 2021 both Rudy and Sidney looked as if they failed presenting election fraud... I have a sneaky suspicion that they won't fail this time.
I remember Sidney being frustrated that Trump wouldn't appoint her special counsel and didn't seem to be encouraging her efforts.. it makes perfect sense now with Jan Halper-Hayes telling us that Trump didn't want any reveal at the time as it was too soon. I think Sidney found that out later on and that's why it seemed she dropped off the radar. Also, the election fraud was far from her only day job, she was and continues to be one of the very top attorneys in the country.
Good read. Clearly Deep State was in high gear and ready to counter Trump’s election fraud case in 2021 with full MSM propaganda coverage amid Jan6 Fedsurrection. Time shift and MSM credibilty implosion is brilliant Sun Tzu: “Appear weak when you are strong”, and now that gets flipped as he is “out of power” and optically weak he will smash them in the trial.
Mr. Giuliani was like a breath of fresh air when he took over the reins in NYC just as POTUS has been when he took over the reins of our failed, corrupt government. Both men made tremendous progress in straightening out their realms of influence while, in contrast, their lefty successors in those positions proceeded (and are currently attempting) to undo all the progress that was made.
May God continue to bless and protect these titans and their families.
Speaking of Rudy, I have a friend who worked for a company that was making a voting machine for New York City back in the 90's. When they were about to deliver them, they showed them all the in's & outs & all. At some point they got to the point where they showed them how to hack the results (ie cheat)
A little surprised, the NYC officials told them that if the results can be changed they can't use them. (Which is of course what any HONEST official should say)
I asked him when this happened & it was while Rudy was Mayor. I'm just saying this, not only because Rudy's people were as straight as an arrow but you can bet they reported back to him the problem with those machine. Rudy knew for 30 years that this was possible & he certainly knew how corrupt other politicians are. So you can bet your bottom dollar that he has been waiting for this day for 3 decades
That actually makes a helluva lot of sense. Trump was a real estate developer in NYC - he of all people would have had to deal with certain "families" who control unions and a lot of the trades. I have no doubt said families charged "consultation" fees for things like building permits, helped builders "choose" union labor, and whole litany of other rackets and shakedowns.
I don't get this whole affair at all. I would have thought the LAST thing the dems would want is a re-airing of the 2020 election and to give Trump a massive platform via show trial. And why Rudy? Why such a flimsy, weak case against a man who is an expert in RICO? Are the dems that scared and desperate? Or something else at work here?
Were you not around during COVID? How many people DIED of COVID. How many people DIED of the JAB. Has that made it to the news yet? Is everyone now aware of the dangers of the jab, or is the enemy good enough at keeping their mouths shut to cause this evil?
If evil can keep its mouth shut long enough to commit these atrocious acts of evil, then good people can and will keep their mouths shut when it comes to operational security of this magnitude.
Don't give your enemy more credit than you're willing to give yourself. People work together to do things all the time, and often enough, if its important enough, all the people involved will keep their mouths shut until it's ready.
If you need something a little closer to home, less involved with evil, look no further than video game development. You might see a trailer for an upcoming game that has a few cool things in it, but the overall game doesn't get leaked until release day, or a few days before. All those developers on the game though, surely every single large game that was ever created should have been leaked early because of the developers on it not being able to keep their mouths shut. Clearly. Clearly only bad humans are capable of secrets.
Manhattan Project, Normandy invasion, Midway, US Submarine ops during the Cold War, Skunk Works development of everything from the U-2 to the the SR-71, etc, etc.
Yeah, not a lawyer either but I can read (I tell that to my lawyer son all the time). From what I understand, That number is not “cases”, it is “indictment charges”. So, like Trump, if that bullshit was “sealed” that would report 10 + all the other charges for the others named (I don’t know the number). Let us pretend it’s 40. That would be 40 “sealed indictments”. One case, a mountain of “charges indicted on”.
I was curious about that as well. Even if they did 20 a day, every day, including holidays, birthdays, and weekends, it would still take over 50 years to get through that many. Unless my math is horribly wrong these days
Good observation, but you are assuming a separate Grand Jury in each case? Arguably, in the case of Military jurisdiction (due to a state of war with “occupying enemy combatants”), you could get all these sealed indictments from just a few JAG-organized GJs. The best parallel might be to look into how Guliani did it in NYC. I’m sure he did not use a bunch of separate GJs, especially if it was effectively one big RICO case.
Most likely they do get specifics, imo. Probably can’t legally indict a John Doe. There have been some leaks about certain people providing testimony, but MSM immediately debunks as conspiracy theory.
MSM is effectively enforcing complete news blackout either for self-protection or through coercion by military.
They absolutely have to get the names and specifics of the crime. Juries are regular folks.
I served on a jury once.....just a civil trial, but it was definitely just regular folks.
In these Mafia cases described in the Netflix documentaries, they heard the real voices of the mobsters captured on wiretaps. The FBI would have to present evidence of how they wiretapped and when and how they proved it was their voice.
grand juries only serve a certain length of time though. There's no grand jury still serving from Trump's time in office. If you don't get an indictment before the time expirees, you would need to present all evidence to a new grand jury.
Rudy and Potus worked to rid NYC of the mafia.
The second this dummy in Atlanta said she wants to arrest Rudy… it was game over.
No one has the experience he does with RICO cases and having convictions stick. Potus will get a conviction, but it will be quickly overturned. Sloppy rico cases get overturned quickly and that happened many times with Rudy and Gotti.
Rudy is basically luring the DNC underlings into committing crimes on behalf of an organization and he’ll work his way to the top.
Remember who ran against Hillary for that NY Senate seat in 2000 after JFK Jr. got taken out?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudy_Giuliani
It appears “cancer” is better than Clintoncide.
Rudy does play a pretty good fall guy. Remember Sweaty Rudy with the black hair dye dripping down onto his face during the first round of Election interference "hearings"?
Will we get that Rudy again, or will they be singing Rudy Can't Fail this time around? Either way it should be quite the show...
JFK Jr was not running for Senate when he died. I lived in NYC at the time. The favorite for Democratic nomination was going to be Nita Lowry.
Giuliani was the Republican candidate. Even if JFK Jr lived and decided to run he would have entered the Democratic primary. So Rudy would not have replaced him.
This was the state of NY Senate race months before JFK Jr https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/campaigns/keyraces2000/stories/lowey030299.htm
You can see that Lowry was "the other candidate."
JFK Jr is not mentioned at all. Why? He was not running for Senate. He was not even thinking about running for Senate. The stories that came out afterwards are ahistorical. JFK Jr was not seen as serious candidate for anything back then...certainly not the Senate.
Yes. He was not “official” candidate at that time, and certainly would not have gotten Dem establishment backing without serious arm twisting. He likely would have won as an Independent, imo.
However, a fair amount of evidence that he was lining up financial backers and seriously exploring a bid for the NY Senate seat in 2000. His non-establishment status and name recognition made him a serious threat to all NY Senate contenders.
There's not. I lived in NYC at the time he was seems as a lightweight.
He had a prestigious job in the district attorney's office but he failed his bar exam at least twice. He almost lost his job because he couldn't pass the bar exam.
He was seen as coasting on his name. He also explicitly shot down. Any idea that he was running for office and said he wanted to focus on his magazine?
I'm not sure any third party candidate has ever won an election in New York state, so it seems kind of like a rough way to go.
If a strong Democratic leading candidate ran as a third party, all I think that would do is would allow the Republican candidate to win.
I don't even know what the ideology/ circumstances of a strong third party candidate in New York would look like
Based on my limited review off the history, it appears that JFK Jr.'s "exploration" was a feint, and he was focusing on his magazine among other things as you say. However, it appears to have been an intentional feint just like Trump's feints in 1988, 2000, and 2008 Presidential campaigns. Unclear the exact purpose of doing this beyond the obvious raising of public profile.
I don't remember any exploration at all, but if he did it might have been a trial run to see if he had any chance of actually getting close to a nomination. Then when he found he had no support he didn't run.
I do remember basically other people asking him and him saying he was going to focus on the magazine. He had no interest in a political career right now
Trump was an active part of that take down, He put his ass on the line.
She has set this all up for Trump - I wonder if she is another "actor".
My thoughts exactly
We are watching the greatest political "rope a dope" of all time. We are still in the corner taking the last of their punch energy. Just waiting for the right opening.
WOW!!!!!
I had NO IDEA that's how sealed indictments worked at all!!!
I was thinking about this new Trump indictment… but more importantly, who else they indicted.
Sidney Powell I believe will play a vital role, but I’d like to focus on Rudy Giuliani— Mr. RICO himself.
Now that Mr RICO himself was indicted, it somehow feels like this isn’t a coincidence…
Hear me out….
A fren told me to watch “Fear City New York Vs The Mafia.”
It was about the operation to take down all the Mafia families in New York.
In the series, Donald Trump made an appearance. So did Rudy Giuliani, who as you may or may not know, led the 1980s federal prosecution of New York City mafia bosses as U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York.
11 organized crime figures, including the heads of New York City's "Five Families", were indicted by United States Attorney Rudolph Giuliani under the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO).
The operation began in the 1970’s.
How long did that operation take? How many years? The largest organized crime bust in history.
What are we dealing with? CABAL? Could they be considered organized crime?
Compare the Mafia to the Cabal.
Post Trump Presidency, how many resignations have we seen of top CEOs, Senators, Congress? How many terminations in the FBI, DOJ?
September, 2018- Q said there was 50,000+ sealed indictments. There was an average of 4-6k sealed indictments being added every single month.
That number is in the hundreds of thousands now.
What is a Sealed Indictment?
A sealed indictment is the result of a SECRET grand jury proceeding.
A secret grand jury has 12-23 US citizens that are given information and testimony from a prosecutor. The prosecutor is prosecuting a person, who has NO IDEA this is going on.
The jury decides if there is sufficient evidence/cause prosecute this person with a crime.
In which case they file a sealed indictment. It stays off the record and the person has no idea. They won’t know it until they are arrested.
The prosecutor is a Fed US Attorney, A County District Attorney, or State Attorney General.
I believe it’s being done this way because we are prosecuting organized crime (i.e. The RICO Act).
Everything has to be lined up. They can’t indict one person at a time because it would tip off the rest, causing a chain reaction.
When they unseal one, all gets unsealed to prosecute EVERYONE. Everyone gets arrested at the same time.
Sessions ~~> Huber
Huber had the ability to prosecute & empanel a grand jury outside of DC (important). Huber assigned a team of 470 investigators (attorneys) + IG + legal jurisdiction across ALL 50 states.
Why am I telling you all this?
Because good things TAKE TIME.
In the 1970’s-1980’s operation to take down the mafia, they DID NOT pull the trigger until they had absolutely everything and there were no holes to slither out of.
Because, It had to be done right. It had to be done according to the rule of law. It had to carry weight. It had to be proven in the court of law. There could be no mistakes. #3725
Enter SPACE FORCE…
You do know Trump created an entirely new military branch, don’t you?
There is a very important reason Trump created Space Force.
“Space Force is going to prove to be very important…. Said Trump. https://rumble.com/v16dc32-donald-trump-space-force-is-going-to-prove-to-be-very-important.html
“I caught them all” says Trump. https://rumble.com/v2dbkg8-donald-trump-i-caught-the-swamp.-i-caught-them-all.html
SPACE FORCE is not about shooting aliens with pew pews… it’s not Star Wars.
Quantum computing plays a big role in the military world now. So do satellites….
Nearly every single career choice re Space Force is in intelligence & satellites.
What role can MIL INTEL play? What does intelligence do? What do satellites do? What can they collect?
It is my belief that Space Force was created to help save America & has been collecting evidence since the 2018 midterms, + 2020 Presidential Election, + 2022 midterms.
Ok, let’s backtrack….
How long did it take to take down the NYC Mafia?
How long do you think it should take to tear down a global cabal with centuries of roots?
Good things take time Fam. Think about it.
“The Pause” will be worth it. https://rumble.com/v1v8uc8-trump-this-is-a-four-year-operation-and-american-citizens-are-not-ready-for.html
UNSHAKABLE FAITH!
High probability NYC mafia = Cabal; NYC mafia is group of Italian crime families; Cabal is a group of 13 families engaged in organized banking crime & usury, maritime law fraud, and trust law theft, reportedly from Northern Italy. NYC mafia is likely just one branch of the Cabal.
Yup.
Cabal obviously infinitely larger than some mickey mouse mob operation in comparison.
However, I believe the no such agency, Space Force and military resources available are also proportionally larger and certainly more sophisticated than whatever NYC had in the 70s and 80s.
And this take down has been in the making for much much longer I think. Probably somewhat proportional to the problem.
the greatest show on earth..........please stand by
That's because it's not how they work.
Like this part is false
Huber's retired. He's done. He didn't return any indictments. Trump actually attacked Huber for this.
And the 470 attorneys? They were not assigned Huber. That's the number of people who worked in the Inspector General's office, they were not at Huber's disposal. They worked for IG Michael Horowtiz and that was for all the issues the IG's office was working on. They don't build criminal cases, they investigate internal DOJ issues and, at best, make a referral to other prosecutors. They are not the workforce for the Huber or any other special counsel. They have their own to do.
The confusion on this 470 thing came from this email. In this email Jeff Sessions says two separate things. https://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2018/images/03/29/ag.letter.re.ig.and.huber.reviews.pdf
And also
There were never 470 people working on Huber's case.
Huber closed his investigation in 2020. He then resigned as US attorney in 2021 when Biden put his new people in.
I saw that Netflix show he mentions. It's good. He talks about the Mafia Commission case.
But the Mafia Commission case took less than two years to the indictment and they did not keep the the indictment sealed for a long time.....they actually released the indictment early because the local news got wind of it.
The initial wiretaps involving the Concrete Club scheme were in April 1983. This was of a street level guy and not one of the Bosses on the Commission.
The indictment and arrests happened in March 1985. The feds moved pretty quickly.
For most of those 23 months there was no indict of the Commission, they were still investigation, going from the street level guys to each Boss. And they also wanted a big crime to show the Commission was involved in violence so they worked to tie the Commission to an earlier murder.
It is NOT an example of a sealed indictment sitting around for years.
And they were dropping other indictments. Furthermore, they brought earlier indictments. They did not keep a bunch sitting around.
Before going after the Commission, the FBI organized teams to focus on each family. And they tried those cases. Paul Castellano was indicted in 1984 the year before the 1985 RICO indictment https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Paul_Castellano#Legal_problems
March 1984 Gambino Family Indicted. https://www.nytimes.com/1984/03/31/nyregion/reputed-leader-of-a-crime-family-is-indicted-by-us.html?scp=7&sq=%22Paul+Castellano%22++indicted&st=nyt
October 1984 Columbo Family Indicted. https://www.nytimes.com/1984/10/25/nyregion/11-indicted-by-us-as-the-leadership-of-a-crime-family.html
other cases
Columbo Boss, Carmine The Snake Persico, was also indicted in 1981.
Gene Gotti, John Gotti's brother was arrested for dealing heroin in 1983.
Mob run drywall cartel 1983. Like the Concrete Club there was a drywall club.
The first RICO case against the Mafia was in 1979 against the Gambino mobster who ran the Longshorman's union https://www.nytimes.com/1979/01/18/archives/scotto-head-of-longshore-local-indicted-on-racketeering-charges.html
It just doesn't match this idea of dozens, let alone hundreds, let alone thousands of indictment just sitting around.
One key piece in the Netflix documentary. is how the FBI/DOJ learned to use the RICO law. It came out in 1970, They didn't use it for 9 years and the DOJ finally sent FBI officers to go take a college class with the law's author. He did a week long seminar with them. FBI starting prepping and investigation for RICO cases before Rudy became the US attorney. The first time the NY DOJ used RICO was in 1979 before Rudy against a mob boss and the longshoreman's union. Giuliani did not become the US attorney in NYC until 1983. He came up with using RICO to go after the Commission, but the FBI/DOJ had been using RICO against the Mafia for years by then.
But even when the DOJ went after the NYC in the 1980's, they didn't even do 1,000 indictments. They didn't even do 100 RICO indictments. The folks who were "counting" sealed indictments were doing it wrong. The things they were counting as indictments were sealed proceedings and there are many types of court records that are sealed. This is because the general public can't distinguish one sealed proceeding from another in the public databases.
Have you ever heard a minor's criminal record being sealed? That's a type of sealed proceeding. Every application for a search warrant or a wiretap is sealed.
Good article, worth a read. Most of it is not new for Anons, but seeing everything tied together makes good sense.
I was going to say the same thing.
It's a great little summary.
RICO Sauve! There's another idea to put on the Trump mugshot T-shirts!
The Left want to play this game? We play it better
When I watched Fear City I thought it was a message to us frens.
Wictor or someone had a really thought provoking article on the people involved in the mob takedown in Atlantic City. Trump and his now deceased brother were very involved in helping, and there is corroboration in an FBI vault dump from a few years back. But Bill Barr and Rod Rosenstein were also involved, as was Robert Mueller. Don't hate me LOL! That's what the article said. Here's the article. I actually saved something and was later able to find! It wasn't Wictor it was Rex. I know there are mixed feelings about him but the article is sourced and interesting nonetheless:
https://archive.ph/b661r#selection-623.0-675.41
HIghlights:
f you accept that Trump has been a very valuable source for the FBI since at least 1981, you can start to see his influence in major FBI/DOJ takedowns more clearly. For example, in the early 1990s, the FBI was making a major push against the Mob in New York. The Gambino crime family in New York was brought down in 1992. The Mafia Commission between February 25, 1985 and November 19, 1986 broke up the Five Families. Each of these probes would have relied on valuable source informants, much like the Scarfo takedown in 1981. Given the above and the Mafia's power in the construction sector, what are the chances that Donald J Trump was a valuable source for these investigations? Answer - in my opinion, very high. Now consider these remarkable 'coincidences': Who led the Mafia Commission prosecution? Rudy Giuliani. Who led the Gambino prosecution? Robert Mueller, who was USAG for the DOJ Criminal Division between 1990-1993. Who was working for Mueller at DOJ, during this time? Rod Rosenstein. And who was the Deputy Attorney General between May 1990 and 26 November, 1992, before becoming the Attorney-General? William Barr. And how about this? Barr's DAG in the 1990's was George Terwilliger. His son, Zachary, was Grassley's DOJ investigator for Judiciary. Zachary Terwilliger then became Rod Rosenstein's Chief of Staff, before being appointed United States Attorney, for the Eastern District of Virginia. Who did Zachary Terwilliger replace in Virginia? Dana Boente. Ring a bell? Boente is now the FBI Chief Legal Counsel Someone tell Rex there are 2 other big connections. Barr's DAG was Terwilliger, his son was Grassley's DOJ investigator for Judiciary. He then became RR's Chief of Staff, then replaced Dana Boente when he left DOJ to become FBI Chief Counsel. 2. It wasn't just the mob it was BCCI https://t.co/1uoAsYupeH — DawsonSField (@DawsonSField) March 11, 2019
Ask yourself this - would these men know that Trump has been a long-standing patriot and FBI source, for decades? Answer - yes. Would any of these men work for Trump, if he was the traitor and Russian agent, that leftist journalists have been accusing him of? Answer - no way. 2019 - Mueller is SC. Rosenstein is DAG. Barr is now AG. And how about Donald J Trump, patriot, billionaire, FBI informant? President of the United States of America. Have any leftist reporters made these connections? No, of course not. They're still chasing shiny objects down endless information dead-ends, chasing that elusive piece of evidence that they know must exists, proving 'OrangeManBad'. My advice? Laugh and ignore them. As they've run around like headless chickens, we can see that Trump has assembled a mighty team to drain the Swamp. The strategy has been nothing short of genius and the execution, masterful. It is now far too late for the enemies of The Republic to respond. Taken by complete surprise, their fates are sealed. Buckle up. The Storm is upon us. The stage is set, for Trump's hammer to fall.
excellent article by Rex. i read it a few yrs ago n since have been following 'band' ppl. so many of the prosecutors we watch today have 'band' connections. about 12 so far n imo that's mathematically impossible to be a mere coincidence
5/'19 Barr
" Little did we know that we'd be getting the old band back together again."
my messy collection of connections https://gab.com/hippie/posts/106625011885402304
Thanks for this write up-informative-has layers- good movie-great actors
I like your reference to BCCI and AG Barr. I had assumed that Barr was George HWB’s guy, but clearly he is/was a whitehat or got flipped at some point per his pursuit of BCCI. BCCI was a big piece of CIA money laundering and source of funds used to corrupt and overthrow governments. It appears to have been setup by George HWB and his other 4 CIA NWO buddies in the 1970s either directly or indirectly.
If you watch Fear City, Trump being a "valuable source" for the Mafia Commission trial is basically zero. The evidence they got, they got through direct surveillance and wiretapping of mafia members in NYC. Do you think the FBI didn't know the Mafia was involved in construction unions and gambling in in NY/NJ area? The whole point of Fear City was the FBI, post J. Edgar Hoover, finally getting serious about the MOB and the RICO law being the tool to go after the mob.
Maybe maybe not but he was instrumental in the Atlantic City thing at least it appears so from the Fbi vault info
What Atlantic City thing?
I'm from NYC I know what Trump was doing back then
He basically bought the land for his parking lot from the Philly mob
What Atlantic City thing?
I'm from NYC I know a lot of what Trump was doing back then
He basically bought the land for his parking lot from the Philly mob
Here is the FBI vault info about Trump and his brother and Atlantic City.
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2814171-TRUMP-FBI-302-1981
OK.
So there's a lot of backstory to this document.
Trump was associated with a Labor Racketeer named Dan Sullivan.
Sullivan also an FBI informant. This didn't make Sullivan a good guy. This is was more like an insurance policy a lot of guys who were full crooked or just slight bent were FBI informants.
Trump worked with Sullivan even before he went into NJ. And later Trump went into business with Sullivan. They were partners in a drywall company
This was a big problem for Trump. It's 1981 and he is trying to open a casino and he needs a casino license. The problem is the New Jersey Division of Gaming Enforcement won't give licenses to guys with crooked business partners or even slightly bent guys.
To solve this Trump could just cut Sullivan loose. But he doesn't want to do that because Trump is trying to buy/lease parcels of land to put together for his casino. Sullivan owned that land with Kenneth Shapiro, a gangster who was like the banker of the Philly mob. And Trump leased the land to build his casino from them.
And that's not even the craziest Trump working with Atlantic City mobsters story.
There was one piece of land Trump wanted for another parking lot.
On this land was unsuccessful night club.
Unsuccessful because it never got a liquor license.
Why? Because it was owned by the Philly Mob. And not just fully crooked guys either. Straight up killers.
Salvatore Testa was one of the owners. Testa was a hitman who became of a fully made member of the Philly Mob at the age of 24 because he made his bones as a hitman and because his dad was the Boss until he was killed in the most famous bombing in history of the US mob. Famous because another Boss, Bruce Springsteen wrote about the Bombing in his song Atlantic City.
I particularly like Levon Helm and The Band's version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFxXTO1t5yo
Back to the purchase
https://www.roughlyexplained.com/2017/05/white-house-counsel-don-mcgahns-uncle-helped-trump-deal-mob/
Because it would look bad for Trump to working with hitmen. His lawyer found a solution.
If that name McGahn sounds familiar? That's because he was the uncle of Trump's White House Counsel Don McGahn.
So Trump is closely working with mobsters and the NJ DGE won't give him a license if he is working with mobsters.
So what does he do? He lies. He tries to tell everyone what he thinks they want to here.
and that is what people don't get about the document you linked to.
It's a Cover Your Ass document.
The FBI agent wrote this document after the Special Agent in Charge of the main NJ FBI office called him up and Do you want to tell me what in the hell is going on? I just got a call from the NJ DGE asking about one of confidential informants? WTF did you do?!
Trump tried to the get the DGE off his back by telling them that the FBI vouches for Sullivan. So the DGE calls the FBI and say Donald Trump is telling you think Dan Sullivan is clean. So the SAC calls this guy and says you need to put out this fire. So this guy now has to write a memo explaining everything that happened.
There are two parts of this that absolutely kill me.
Trump playing dumb telling the FBI he read in the newspapers that organized crime is involved in Atlantic City! In the newspapers! Meanwhile he's going around bragging that he's working with Daniel Sullivan. "He's the guy that killed Jimmy Hoffa," Trump would tell people. His lawyer Roy Cohn is the lawyer for Fat Tony Salerno and Paul Castellano. The heads of the two most powerful mafia families in the country. Both of them owned a concrete company that Trump was buying his concrete from. Shocked! I'm shocked https://youtu.be/SjbPi00k_ME?t=9
The second part is Trump trying to get the FBI to agree to the lies he told the NJ DGE. Again by telling them what he thinks they want to here. I'm concerned about my repuation I'll let you do an uncover operation in the casino......LOL....THERE's NO CASINO at this point. It's September 1981. He won't even finalize his deal with the hitman for the parking lot until 1982. The Casino doesn't open until 1984. To use an east coast word, it's a fugazy, it's a check that is going to bounce.
When the FBI guy says this is nuts, I can't promise you anything, Trump tries to find out who he could talk to. Why because without that casino license he will never open a casino. And the DGE tells Trump we spoke to your business partner, Sullivan, and he was hiding his background and his business activities. So Trump tells the DGE, look talk to the FBI, Then the FBI guy has to tell his boss that Trump told the DGE the FBI would vouch for him and we can "nip this thing in the bud."
And to be clear. Trump's offer to the FBI was, in fact, a fugazy. There never was an undercover operation. It never happened.
So how did Trump get his casino license?
A. He got out of some of his businesses with Sullivan including the drywall company
B. He lied to the NJ DGE about his other dealings with Sullivan
Trump having to get out of the drywall company turned out to be a stroke of luck
Because the feds went after the drywall club in 1983. And the company Trump was involved with was pat of this cartel. https://www.nytimes.com/1983/07/06/nyregion/investigators-charge-contractors-formed-club-for-tax-fraud.html
Sauces Sullivan and Shapiro and Cohn and Fat Tony https://www.thechicagosyndicate.com/search/label/Kenny%20Shapiro?m=0
The FBI agent who wrote the memo https://www.phillyburbs.com/story/news/2016/09/23/trump-s-ties-to-informant/18154546007/
Thanks for this info will need to read all the links. Question:
"Unsuccessful because it never got a liquor license. Why? Because it was owned by the Philly Mob."
Since when is that an impediment, usually it's a shoo-in? Maybe I've lived in Chicago for too long or something.
Something I think important to remember from this story about Rudy, is up until the indictments dropped, it was business as usual for the Mob.
Not only for the Mob, but for their victims.
From the man on the street's perspective, nothing was happening - right up until it all came crashing down.
Rofl...when “nothing is happening” is part of the “holy shit, everyone gets an indictment”, Oprah-style.
Makes sense that in 2021 both Rudy and Sidney looked as if they failed presenting election fraud... I have a sneaky suspicion that they won't fail this time.
I remember Sidney being frustrated that Trump wouldn't appoint her special counsel and didn't seem to be encouraging her efforts.. it makes perfect sense now with Jan Halper-Hayes telling us that Trump didn't want any reveal at the time as it was too soon. I think Sidney found that out later on and that's why it seemed she dropped off the radar. Also, the election fraud was far from her only day job, she was and continues to be one of the very top attorneys in the country.
Good read. Clearly Deep State was in high gear and ready to counter Trump’s election fraud case in 2021 with full MSM propaganda coverage amid Jan6 Fedsurrection. Time shift and MSM credibilty implosion is brilliant Sun Tzu: “Appear weak when you are strong”, and now that gets flipped as he is “out of power” and optically weak he will smash them in the trial.
Unleash Rudy on Georgia DA, please! Some of Durham’s filings sound like some of Sidney’s stuff. Wonder if she was helping?
Now, that’s one mighty “Dynamic Duo”!
Mr. Giuliani was like a breath of fresh air when he took over the reins in NYC just as POTUS has been when he took over the reins of our failed, corrupt government. Both men made tremendous progress in straightening out their realms of influence while, in contrast, their lefty successors in those positions proceeded (and are currently attempting) to undo all the progress that was made.
May God continue to bless and protect these titans and their families.
Excellent article, thank you. Movie is getting exciting. Can not wait for the end.
A Song (For Rudy): https://youtu.be/r5Q8Xa0bPy8
Nice!
Glory, glory, Hallelujah! ✝️
… indeed.
Speaking of Rudy, I have a friend who worked for a company that was making a voting machine for New York City back in the 90's. When they were about to deliver them, they showed them all the in's & outs & all. At some point they got to the point where they showed them how to hack the results (ie cheat)
A little surprised, the NYC officials told them that if the results can be changed they can't use them. (Which is of course what any HONEST official should say) I asked him when this happened & it was while Rudy was Mayor. I'm just saying this, not only because Rudy's people were as straight as an arrow but you can bet they reported back to him the problem with those machine. Rudy knew for 30 years that this was possible & he certainly knew how corrupt other politicians are. So you can bet your bottom dollar that he has been waiting for this day for 3 decades
THE 'BAND'
That actually makes a helluva lot of sense. Trump was a real estate developer in NYC - he of all people would have had to deal with certain "families" who control unions and a lot of the trades. I have no doubt said families charged "consultation" fees for things like building permits, helped builders "choose" union labor, and whole litany of other rackets and shakedowns.
I don't get this whole affair at all. I would have thought the LAST thing the dems would want is a re-airing of the 2020 election and to give Trump a massive platform via show trial. And why Rudy? Why such a flimsy, weak case against a man who is an expert in RICO? Are the dems that scared and desperate? Or something else at work here?
I WOULD STOP TALKING! KNOW WHAT I MEAN!?
Spot on, agree totally.
Were you not around during COVID? How many people DIED of COVID. How many people DIED of the JAB. Has that made it to the news yet? Is everyone now aware of the dangers of the jab, or is the enemy good enough at keeping their mouths shut to cause this evil?
If evil can keep its mouth shut long enough to commit these atrocious acts of evil, then good people can and will keep their mouths shut when it comes to operational security of this magnitude.
Don't give your enemy more credit than you're willing to give yourself. People work together to do things all the time, and often enough, if its important enough, all the people involved will keep their mouths shut until it's ready.
If you need something a little closer to home, less involved with evil, look no further than video game development. You might see a trailer for an upcoming game that has a few cool things in it, but the overall game doesn't get leaked until release day, or a few days before. All those developers on the game though, surely every single large game that was ever created should have been leaked early because of the developers on it not being able to keep their mouths shut. Clearly. Clearly only bad humans are capable of secrets.
🙃
Their mouths. Yes, indeed. Manhattan project involving thousands leaked nothing.
Manhattan Project, Normandy invasion, Midway, US Submarine ops during the Cold War, Skunk Works development of everything from the U-2 to the the SR-71, etc, etc.
Hell yes people can keep thier mouths shut.
MAGA
WWG1WGA
NCSWIC
Patriots who know they are finally serving justice and don’t want to mess up this opportunity would be quiet as mice, imo.
Especially if they want to live.
Try 430,000 sealed indictments not 50,000.
https://bad-boys.us/
Pie in the sky my ass.
I'm not a lawyer, nor do I play one on TV. But how long would it take to get the verdicts in over 430,000 indictments?
I'm guessing decades the way things slow-roll these days.
Mirror mirror, on my car, this motherfucking shit is not very far.
Awesome
Yeah, not a lawyer either but I can read (I tell that to my lawyer son all the time). From what I understand, That number is not “cases”, it is “indictment charges”. So, like Trump, if that bullshit was “sealed” that would report 10 + all the other charges for the others named (I don’t know the number). Let us pretend it’s 40. That would be 40 “sealed indictments”. One case, a mountain of “charges indicted on”.
Gotchya!
That makes me a bit more hopeful that things may actually get done within my lifetime..
I dunno. Military tribunals could go pretty lickey split particularly if the people are clamoring for justice to be served.
Not in a military tribunal.
I was curious about that as well. Even if they did 20 a day, every day, including holidays, birthdays, and weekends, it would still take over 50 years to get through that many. Unless my math is horribly wrong these days
Good observation, but you are assuming a separate Grand Jury in each case? Arguably, in the case of Military jurisdiction (due to a state of war with “occupying enemy combatants”), you could get all these sealed indictments from just a few JAG-organized GJs. The best parallel might be to look into how Guliani did it in NYC. I’m sure he did not use a bunch of separate GJs, especially if it was effectively one big RICO case.
Do the regular people who serve on these grand juries get names and specifics?
For example do they get told "Here is Sally Snafu in a video handing over a bag of cash. You decide if we can indict."
If Sally Snafu is a famous person then true I would expect the jury members to gossip about it afterwards and it would be hard to keep secret.
But maybe they only get told "Person X" and other specifics are blurred out.
Or maybe the juries are indeed composed of trusted folk.
Most likely they do get specifics, imo. Probably can’t legally indict a John Doe. There have been some leaks about certain people providing testimony, but MSM immediately debunks as conspiracy theory.
MSM is effectively enforcing complete news blackout either for self-protection or through coercion by military.
They absolutely have to get the names and specifics of the crime. Juries are regular folks.
I served on a jury once.....just a civil trial, but it was definitely just regular folks.
In these Mafia cases described in the Netflix documentaries, they heard the real voices of the mobsters captured on wiretaps. The FBI would have to present evidence of how they wiretapped and when and how they proved it was their voice.
Anything else would be Unconsitutional.
grand juries only serve a certain length of time though. There's no grand jury still serving from Trump's time in office. If you don't get an indictment before the time expirees, you would need to present all evidence to a new grand jury.