They Are taught the "cut and drug" philosophy. They are not taught to get people well. In ancient China, the people would pay a monthly fee to a doctor to keep their family healthy. If someone became ill, that payment would stop until the doctor got them well. This should be our model today. People today thank doctors who cut up and poison them in the name of curing "cancer" and they praise the doctors, as the patient is dying. It is horrible.
I mean it shouldn't just apply to doctors too and could also apply to most jobs. Imagine if instead of paying a mechanic to fix stuff like flat tires or bad engines, you paid like $400 yearly to make sure your car kept running. Or if instead of adding taxes you only paid the government when everything was fine.
No thanks, I don't want or need to pay everyone $$$$$$ every month "just in case". I take care of my things and my health. When there is concern I educate myself on WHY..what causes the issue and address it with proper mntnc /repair/ procedure.
And it’s such a terrible shame, to take people with a calling to heal and exploit that, then mind rape them into hurting the very people they want to help.
Are some greedy? Sure, but I know lots that are good people, and nurses even more so.
Absolutely! It is all about "farming" the patient to make money. If they make you well, the money train stops. They want their (your ) money.
Fact.
This is why you never see TV ads with doctors advising diabetics to quit cramming carbohydrate molecules down their gullet and into their bloodstream. Never. You never see an MD say "Eating fat trains the body to burn fat; and eating fat shuts off the appetite quickly. Carbohydrates train the body to STORE fat, and they stimulate the appetite." This is why people can guzzle a whole bag of pretzels or cookies in one sitting and not even feel stuffed.
They want and need you sick.
They want and need you buying and taking drugs that make you sicker.
They want and need you taking more drugs to counteract the side effects of the other drugs.
I was thinking this just the other day. That I will start taking charge of my general health and rely on the "medical people" only for catastrophic situation like a broken bone, etc.
This is the way... I applaud anyone that finally figures this out. I was blessed and cursed in how I learned it. My parents both had their own home remedies that I was treated with. The worst thing in my early life was being subjected to visiting the Clinics of the bases my Dad was stationed at. That did not change. Like lawyers and lawmen I avoid "Doctors" of every iteration of the title. Medical/Dental professionals are largely infested with sadists and narcissists.
Side note... My surname derives from Celtic healers that were called the "Bonesetter"-S____. Aunt Shirley was into looking into ancestry in the 60's if not earlier as the article she mailed my Dad is where I learned this factoid when I was just a wee lad of about 8 if memory serves. That would be 1968. And apparently there were many chiropractors and doctors in my family tree. The first salvos of the war on our collective health came about around the turn of the last century.
I won't even go to them for a broken bone. We have centuries of information on how to handle that. It's a problem that's older than civilization itself. I can decide for myself when I need antibiotics, and I can get them without having to go through the hall monitors to get a paper pass that grants me approval to have them.
Only if the long term quality of my life is in severe jeopardy would I even consider it.
That's why God gave you two of most things. Right arm broken? Make it look like the left one again and then leave it alone for a while. We don't have to bring ionizing radiation into this unless the swelling and pain don't fade.
I totally get what this guy is saying. Doctors just follow the algorithm. Someone with very impressive sounding credentials goes through the medical evidence and writes a guideline. Usually, it's a committee of like 20-50 experts, all buddies who work in the best academic medical centers. They write the "Bible" of how to treat a condition.
In years past, these were treated exactly as they should be: as guides or suggestions. But with the push for better outcomes and better quality measures, idiot administrators and bureaucrats at the HHS decided these would be used to write algorithms tied to whether you get paid or not. Fail to do what's on the guideline and they dock your reimbursement or you lose your year-end bonuses. Now, thanks to people who control the money but have no actual medical training themselves, the guidelines are now medical law (does this sound familiar?)
So, if you're a doctor with a patient with high blood pressure, you have to start them on whatever the AHA says they should be on or you risk having a chart auditor report you for having the audacity to use your clinical judgement. The docs may very well know that the solution to many of these "general health" ailments is what they call "lifestyle changes," but they have to offer you the guideline directed "best practice." So you get a pill instead of:
Eat a proper, calorically-balanced, nutritious diet
Sleep adequately: 8 hours/night or 2 cycles of restorative REM sleep
Reduce stress because cortisol drives metabolic disease long-term
Go out and see the sun for vitamin D, mental health, and other benefits.
This should be the core of every general physician's practice with what we call "maintenance medications" given as acute interventions to keep numbers and risk down while you learn to stop living unhealthily. Of course, the devil's in the details and if you ask people, they don't actually stick to the lifestyle. The fast food's too convenient. They like the beer and cigarettes. Overeating at restaurants all the time is convenient and may be a socially encouraged activity. Exercise hurts. Sleep is often sacrificed for productivity. Constant stress is seen as unavoidable, and stress reduction is sacrificed for productivity, and when we live as office moles slaving for the Man, we don't get to go out and see the sun unless you put it as a background on your work computer screen.
So, you get the pills instead.
Just like education, health is something no one else can give you. You have to make an active effort yourself. Experts are guides, but you have to do the work.
To add to the above: Went to a team of doctors because each are of a subspecialty. One recommends a pacemaker, another a valve repair, the 3rd a heart transplant. They are all associates so to show the stupidity I said: How about I get the transplant first, then the pacemaker, then the valve repair. They were completely dumfounded and silent.
Same with meds: One prescribes a med (that costs $300), 2 days later I see the other in the group and he yells at me not to take that med, not one.
Tomorrow I see another doc and will tell him I stopped taking one of my meds because at last visit he said it was ineffective. Wonder what his response will be.
My insurance insist I get my blood pressure checked every 6 months for prescription so I had lined an appt months ago. Then I need blood work for a pre-op so they make the appt. Then they call back and say they mistakenly made them the same day.
I thought cool....two birds, one stone. Then they say they can't do both on the same day. I was furious because the only reason is they are billed different to insurance. So now I've got to go two different days and miss work and whatnot.
They can't check your blood pressure and then take your blood on the same day? That's complete bullshit. I'd demand they are done on the same day or give me a damn good reason why they can't.
That was my contention. The only reason they could give was that its billed separate under different filings and each has to be a standalone visit. Now I'm getting the blood drawn first so if I'm told they are checking my blood pressure that visit its going to be very embarrassing for them when I insist they wait a couple of weeks until I return for the other appointment.
I would trust the doctors that stood up against the the Plannedemic and worked to provide people early treatments and later those doctors that stood up against the vaxxx.
It's important to get multiple perspectives until you find one that you trust. The same goes with any other service: plumbers, electricians, etc. There are a lot of idiots out there with certifications.
I have thought about the same thing, but does it benefit someone on a small premium employer-affiliated insurance? I work for a bigger corporation and I think I have good insurance
If someone else subsidizes for you, then it's worth it. But I figured I never would consult a doctor. I actually have done a few consultations out of pocket but afterwards they seemed pointless. Probably cost me one month of insurance money. ER care might pay off. Basically I don't ski or mountain bike so hoping to avoid that. If I ever got something major I wouldn't do the hospital, healthcare route.
I used to have terrible insurance from my last job, but this job has sweet benefits that make it worth it for me, especially since I'm 28 weeks pregnant lol
This worked for me. Dropped from 185 to 165, no longer need bp medicine I had been on for 10+ years. I also started eating better, more fruits & vegetables, no sugary drinks, mainly water only.
I’ve been dropped from several practitioners over the past 25 years. I’ll sign up for a specific reason, and then they won’t see me again for 4-5 years, and I will no longer be in the system. They can piss off. It’s easy enough to go elsewhere when the time arises.
Order yourself regular blood tests (comprehensive metabolic panel (CMP) and complete blood count (CBC)) and track your numbers over time. If something is out of range, figure out how to fix it (supplements? exercise? diet?) and only if that fails, see a doctor.
Invest in an automatic blood pressure monitor (as little as $40), blood oxygen sensor ($20), maybe a glucose meter if needed…
too bad his fighters aren't given the same choice, every state requires 2 physicians ringside to do a pre and post physical exam of the fighters, so they do get checked out for medical issues not related to broken bones, or cuts and if the doctor finds something wrong they do not fight again until cleared by a doctor
Dana is not going nearly far enough down this hole. I would be impressed if he partnered with right clinicians and environmental biologists to completely retool the UFC paradigm, to only hold matches outdoors in the daytime. Why? General health can never be disassociated from circadian biology. This is now known. Yet the entire careers of all his UFC fighters and fans are based on engaging in and vicariously experiencing highly stressful, high stakes physical activies at night time under intensely bright, flickering blue lights. That is a massive, chronic circadian mismatch. Your retina is wired into almost half of your brain. Constant data input about the environment. These sorts of mismatches, just like for shift workers who have been most closely studied directly links to cancer, mood disorders, sleep disorders and so on.
Absolutely! It is all about "farming" the patient to make money. If they make you well, the money train stops. They want their (your ) money.
Also that is the way they were trained. They were not trained to think outside the box. Doctors of today have nothing on the old school doctors
They Are taught the "cut and drug" philosophy. They are not taught to get people well. In ancient China, the people would pay a monthly fee to a doctor to keep their family healthy. If someone became ill, that payment would stop until the doctor got them well. This should be our model today. People today thank doctors who cut up and poison them in the name of curing "cancer" and they praise the doctors, as the patient is dying. It is horrible.
I mean it shouldn't just apply to doctors too and could also apply to most jobs. Imagine if instead of paying a mechanic to fix stuff like flat tires or bad engines, you paid like $400 yearly to make sure your car kept running. Or if instead of adding taxes you only paid the government when everything was fine.
No thanks, I don't want or need to pay everyone $$$$$$ every month "just in case". I take care of my things and my health. When there is concern I educate myself on WHY..what causes the issue and address it with proper mntnc /repair/ procedure.
Mx is key indeed
And it’s such a terrible shame, to take people with a calling to heal and exploit that, then mind rape them into hurting the very people they want to help.
Are some greedy? Sure, but I know lots that are good people, and nurses even more so.
A medical student once told me that the 2nd half of medical school is only about medicine.
Fact.
This is why you never see TV ads with doctors advising diabetics to quit cramming carbohydrate molecules down their gullet and into their bloodstream. Never. You never see an MD say "Eating fat trains the body to burn fat; and eating fat shuts off the appetite quickly. Carbohydrates train the body to STORE fat, and they stimulate the appetite." This is why people can guzzle a whole bag of pretzels or cookies in one sitting and not even feel stuffed.
They want and need you sick.
They want and need you buying and taking drugs that make you sicker.
They want and need you taking more drugs to counteract the side effects of the other drugs.
Exactly! Well said!
Patient cured is a patient lost
"Patient cured is a customer (addict) lost"
I was thinking this just the other day. That I will start taking charge of my general health and rely on the "medical people" only for catastrophic situation like a broken bone, etc.
This is the way... I applaud anyone that finally figures this out. I was blessed and cursed in how I learned it. My parents both had their own home remedies that I was treated with. The worst thing in my early life was being subjected to visiting the Clinics of the bases my Dad was stationed at. That did not change. Like lawyers and lawmen I avoid "Doctors" of every iteration of the title. Medical/Dental professionals are largely infested with sadists and narcissists.
Side note... My surname derives from Celtic healers that were called the "Bonesetter"-S____. Aunt Shirley was into looking into ancestry in the 60's if not earlier as the article she mailed my Dad is where I learned this factoid when I was just a wee lad of about 8 if memory serves. That would be 1968. And apparently there were many chiropractors and doctors in my family tree. The first salvos of the war on our collective health came about around the turn of the last century.
And we have the Rockefellers to thank for that directly😒
bingo
That's a good start. Then learn to reset your own broken bones and do your own stitches.
I won't even go to them for a broken bone. We have centuries of information on how to handle that. It's a problem that's older than civilization itself. I can decide for myself when I need antibiotics, and I can get them without having to go through the hall monitors to get a paper pass that grants me approval to have them.
Only if the long term quality of my life is in severe jeopardy would I even consider it.
I hear ya. Ten years ago I would never have believed I would believe what I believe.
That's why God gave you two of most things. Right arm broken? Make it look like the left one again and then leave it alone for a while. We don't have to bring ionizing radiation into this unless the swelling and pain don't fade.
This is the way
Just have ass tons of hard liquor on hand for the procedure. Kek
I totally get what this guy is saying. Doctors just follow the algorithm. Someone with very impressive sounding credentials goes through the medical evidence and writes a guideline. Usually, it's a committee of like 20-50 experts, all buddies who work in the best academic medical centers. They write the "Bible" of how to treat a condition.
In years past, these were treated exactly as they should be: as guides or suggestions. But with the push for better outcomes and better quality measures, idiot administrators and bureaucrats at the HHS decided these would be used to write algorithms tied to whether you get paid or not. Fail to do what's on the guideline and they dock your reimbursement or you lose your year-end bonuses. Now, thanks to people who control the money but have no actual medical training themselves, the guidelines are now medical law (does this sound familiar?)
So, if you're a doctor with a patient with high blood pressure, you have to start them on whatever the AHA says they should be on or you risk having a chart auditor report you for having the audacity to use your clinical judgement. The docs may very well know that the solution to many of these "general health" ailments is what they call "lifestyle changes," but they have to offer you the guideline directed "best practice." So you get a pill instead of:
This should be the core of every general physician's practice with what we call "maintenance medications" given as acute interventions to keep numbers and risk down while you learn to stop living unhealthily. Of course, the devil's in the details and if you ask people, they don't actually stick to the lifestyle. The fast food's too convenient. They like the beer and cigarettes. Overeating at restaurants all the time is convenient and may be a socially encouraged activity. Exercise hurts. Sleep is often sacrificed for productivity. Constant stress is seen as unavoidable, and stress reduction is sacrificed for productivity, and when we live as office moles slaving for the Man, we don't get to go out and see the sun unless you put it as a background on your work computer screen.
So, you get the pills instead.
Just like education, health is something no one else can give you. You have to make an active effort yourself. Experts are guides, but you have to do the work.
To add to the above: Went to a team of doctors because each are of a subspecialty. One recommends a pacemaker, another a valve repair, the 3rd a heart transplant. They are all associates so to show the stupidity I said: How about I get the transplant first, then the pacemaker, then the valve repair. They were completely dumfounded and silent.
Same with meds: One prescribes a med (that costs $300), 2 days later I see the other in the group and he yells at me not to take that med, not one.
Tomorrow I see another doc and will tell him I stopped taking one of my meds because at last visit he said it was ineffective. Wonder what his response will be.
My insurance insist I get my blood pressure checked every 6 months for prescription so I had lined an appt months ago. Then I need blood work for a pre-op so they make the appt. Then they call back and say they mistakenly made them the same day.
I thought cool....two birds, one stone. Then they say they can't do both on the same day. I was furious because the only reason is they are billed different to insurance. So now I've got to go two different days and miss work and whatnot.
The medical/insurance field is racket.
They can't check your blood pressure and then take your blood on the same day? That's complete bullshit. I'd demand they are done on the same day or give me a damn good reason why they can't.
That was my contention. The only reason they could give was that its billed separate under different filings and each has to be a standalone visit. Now I'm getting the blood drawn first so if I'm told they are checking my blood pressure that visit its going to be very embarrassing for them when I insist they wait a couple of weeks until I return for the other appointment.
I would trust the doctors that stood up against the the Plannedemic and worked to provide people early treatments and later those doctors that stood up against the vaxxx.
It's important to get multiple perspectives until you find one that you trust. The same goes with any other service: plumbers, electricians, etc. There are a lot of idiots out there with certifications.
Have you looked into Zeta potential?
https://www.midwesterndoctor.com/p/how-to-improve-zeta-potential-and?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2
https://www.midwesterndoctor.com/p/what-is-the-relationship-between?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2
Was a nephrologist involved at all?
Why do you ask. I have recently run into a Nephrologist whom I have little faith in..
He probably has issues with all your other doctors for prescribing nephrotoxic medications
And here I was expecting it to be a reference to the TV show "House MD" (nephrology was his rarely mentioned specialty.)
Can confirm.
Source: am retired chiropractic physician
I gave up health insurance a few years ago and the savings have been astronomical.
I have thought about the same thing, but does it benefit someone on a small premium employer-affiliated insurance? I work for a bigger corporation and I think I have good insurance
If someone else subsidizes for you, then it's worth it. But I figured I never would consult a doctor. I actually have done a few consultations out of pocket but afterwards they seemed pointless. Probably cost me one month of insurance money. ER care might pay off. Basically I don't ski or mountain bike so hoping to avoid that. If I ever got something major I wouldn't do the hospital, healthcare route.
I used to have terrible insurance from my last job, but this job has sweet benefits that make it worth it for me, especially since I'm 28 weeks pregnant lol
Sincere question...
What is the best way to lower blood pressure without needing blood pressure medication?
Has anyone done something that truly works? If so, what?
I know several people who lost weight & no longer needed it.
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This worked for me. Dropped from 185 to 165, no longer need bp medicine I had been on for 10+ years. I also started eating better, more fruits & vegetables, no sugary drinks, mainly water only.
Keto Diet BIG TIME for me....
Animal based diet. Dr. Paul Saldino’s animal based diet has changed my life.
I turned off the news. Blood pressure went down like a charm. XD
Ha! Thanks! I turned off the news too, but hot damn, it doesn't mean the news stops! Just different sources. LOL
This worked for me. Dropped from 185 to 165, no longer need bp medicine I had been on for 10+ years.
Yep, treat the symptom, thank-you-NEXT!
I only go to the doctor if I'm pretty much dying and then I think really hard about doing it at all
Also a lot of doctors just want that title of prestige!
I’ve been dropped from several practitioners over the past 25 years. I’ll sign up for a specific reason, and then they won’t see me again for 4-5 years, and I will no longer be in the system. They can piss off. It’s easy enough to go elsewhere when the time arises.
Then where do you go for general health? (besides researching it for yourself and anons here)
Well yeah. They're just legalized drug dealers, professional pill pushers.
Order yourself regular blood tests (comprehensive metabolic panel (CMP) and complete blood count (CBC)) and track your numbers over time. If something is out of range, figure out how to fix it (supplements? exercise? diet?) and only if that fails, see a doctor.
Invest in an automatic blood pressure monitor (as little as $40), blood oxygen sensor ($20), maybe a glucose meter if needed…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDBumLPR9kY
Agree!
TRUTH
Its all guesswork, thats all. I have worked in a couple of hospitals and found out what foul humans they are the hard way.
too bad his fighters aren't given the same choice, every state requires 2 physicians ringside to do a pre and post physical exam of the fighters, so they do get checked out for medical issues not related to broken bones, or cuts and if the doctor finds something wrong they do not fight again until cleared by a doctor
Amen to that. The modern health care system is okay for trauma treatment, but NOTHING else.
Dana is not going nearly far enough down this hole. I would be impressed if he partnered with right clinicians and environmental biologists to completely retool the UFC paradigm, to only hold matches outdoors in the daytime. Why? General health can never be disassociated from circadian biology. This is now known. Yet the entire careers of all his UFC fighters and fans are based on engaging in and vicariously experiencing highly stressful, high stakes physical activies at night time under intensely bright, flickering blue lights. That is a massive, chronic circadian mismatch. Your retina is wired into almost half of your brain. Constant data input about the environment. These sorts of mismatches, just like for shift workers who have been most closely studied directly links to cancer, mood disorders, sleep disorders and so on.