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Sincere question: Why would the Rothschilds, one of the richest families on the earth, be selling off their private collection of heirlooms, art, and historic pieces when these pieces often serve as a symbol of their high status and power?....... (twitter.com)
posted 2 years ago by purkiss80 2 years ago by purkiss80 +188 / -0
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– Richard_Scrottum 51 points 2 years ago +51 / -0

Because it's not them doing the selling.

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– purkiss80 [S] 15 points 2 years ago +15 / -0

😎

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– OregonAngel2 20 points 2 years ago +20 / -0

Good answer from SMSPirate at X:

Look at the total content here. Maybe 1/2 a house of hundreds of properties they own around the world? This is a way of giving money to people with whom you either won't or can't donate to in the open. They have art to sell which is usually old and somewhat meaningless to them. Buyers are willing to purchase the art for $$ which is then given to the family to disburse however they see fit. The illusion of "need" to sell this stuff is wishful thinking. This is a strategy of the real money chain that has ruled almost all society for thousands of years. (by the way - art isn't taxed really... totally different process for handling those transactions usually... WHERE the auction happens matters)

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– ClemTiger 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

Executive Orders 13848/13818

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– mengderen 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Almost a 'fire sale' but not quite-true downsizing would be many properties and many antiquties... But I agree with ^^^ 😎

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– SpaceForceTribunals 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Correct

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– G45Colt 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Possibly. Could also be that $ is owed, and the best way to transfer payment is through the sale of art. We all assume everything about the sale is on the up and up. If agreements are made and money trades hands behind the scenes, no one else can afford the asking price except the intended recipient. If someone else comes along and happens to pay way too much for something, that supports the rest of the sale prices.

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– Joys1Daughter 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

The Astors are selling, too..

https://x.com/RipsBeard107/status/1713972471446020494?s=20

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– n00bie 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0

I also believe Musk paid $0 for Twitter, refer to EO 13818 "Trump’s Executive Order 13818 Seizes Assets of ANYONE Involved in Human Rights Abuse or Corruption" https://www.govinfo.gov/app/details/DCPD-201700923

Twitter was allegedly involved in private accounts and trafficking. Human rights abuse or corruption assets are allowed to be seized, this would include stocks, businesses, properties, arts, artefacts etc.

To think about, not me telling anyone that is what happened or is happening now but it stands to reason that assets are seized if found guilty, which would suggest that trials for some of the higher ups have already happened.

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– CallMeAl 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

So Twitter was just given to Musk, free of charge?

Why Musk, then? Why not you or me or my friend Fred down the street?

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– n00bie 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

Largest contractor for military, known entity, has money, has a large voice. As I say its connecting dots that make logical sense rather than verified truth.

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– CallMeAl 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

What does having large military contracts have to do with running Twitter?

So those with the most money and influence should run Twitter?

None of that makes any logical sense to me.

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– n00bie 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

He is a known entity to military. Nothing to do with money, to do with trust. Money just helps him and the platform legally defend itself when people attack him or his platform. So far he's been quite entertaining and most certainly appears to be aware of people that would frequent GAW

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– CallMeAl 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

There are plenty of other military contractors out there. Why not any of them? Do you think Musk is the only military contractor Trump knew or trusted?

Military contractors are all extraordinarily wealthy.

So far, I don't see anything that deals with Musk personally, that can't be said of many others, other than that some people here find him a source of entertainment.

So that really gives me the impression that some people just want to believe that this happened, and really have no reason other than they personally like him.

Just my opinion, of course.

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– n00bie 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Military contractors are not usually private citizens they are defence contractors like Lockheed, Boeing, Raytheon, DARPA etc. Knowing about any of those companies steers you away from handing over any assets to them. Some communication infrastructure is Starlink and some platforms are backed up by those satellites including Rumble and Twitter as satellites are less vulnerable to blackouts, not impossible though obviously. That said, I do not know either.

I think it goes beyond some finding him entertaining, much like Trump he seems to nod towards the Q community relatively often along with plausible deniability.

Also just my opinion.

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– ApeironPatriot 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Musk met with trump at that conference of tech leaders trump formed early on in his presidency, started working with him and then had a public "falling out" just like trump had with many other people in his administration. This removes optics that musk is on Trump's side, it played out very similar with sessions if you recall

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– CallMeAl 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Ok, but why and how was it determined that Elon Musk should be given Twitter? Other than he met with Trump?

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– damnImgood 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Al... it's all speculation. Do a little digging and see what you think. Don't take anyone's word for any of it. 👍

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– CallMeAl 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I'm not taking anyone's word for it. Which is why I'm asking questions.

Asking questions of the people who make the claim is the first step in digging.

I ask them why they think that. If they have any source other than their personal opinion, I then head there and start digging from there.

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– Kunkussion 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Elon had a personal vendetta against mutual shareholders of Twitter at that time. They attempted to devalue his companies and sent NGOs after him to try to tarnish his name. It's not really much to do with Trump. Also there is speculation that the current Elon is also another actor/double like Biden. That's an entirely different rabbit hole that I cannot yet verify

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– CallMeAl 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

So Twitter was given to Elon because Elon a personal vendetta against Twitter shareholders?

Who gave it to him?

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– JollyRancherHard 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

I also believe Musk paid $0 for Twitter, refer to EO 13818 "Trump’s Executive Order 13818 Seizes Assets of ANYONE Involved in Human Rights Abuse or Corruption" https://www.govinfo.gov/app/details/DCPD-201700923

You may believe this, but I can assure you, it didn't go down this way.

Twitter was a publicly traded company meaning the people who owned Twitter was anyone who owned Twitter stock. These was tens of thousands of people. There were almost 800 million shares of twitter.

They got paid.
https://smartasset.com/investing/what-will-happen-to-your-twitter-stock

In fact, Musk overpaid and tried to back out of the deal.

Also you should read the text of 13818, it does not apply to Americans.

The text says it only applies to "foreign persons."

Any time a sanctions program is issued you can go on the Treasury's sanctions website and see who is sanctioned, banks and financial companies need to do this to see if their customer is a drug dealer or the brother of the head of Hamas. So you should be able to check what I'm saying.

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– n00bie 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I thought majority of shares were Saudi Arabia owned? Which would be foreign assets as well as it occurring after "Saudi Purge"

https://fortune.com/2015/10/07/saudi-prince-twitter-stock/

Turns out it was a paltry 5% so not majority shareholder. Prince Alwaleed, Vanguard Group, Blackrock, Morgan Stanley were the major holders. Thanks for the info.

Interesting about assets frozen and Alwaleed

https://qalerts.app/?n=539

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– LongTimeListener 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

The shareholders owned twitter until Musk bought it from the shareholders and then took it private. Publicly traded companies will not be part of EO13818. The shares any individual owns will be but not the entire company.

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– n00bie 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Prince Alwaleed owned 5%, Morgan Stanley 8.4%, Blackrock 6.7%, Vanguard Group 10.78% - So not one individual to seize it from, if they are foreign owned, operated and involved in human rights abuses it could still occur, but must admit I believed it was more cut and dry than that.

https://qalerts.app/?n=539

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– nakedjay 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

u/#q15

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– Honor+Duty 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

Way out of style! Wouldn’t sell even at a garage sale.

Reeks of Tyrant Castle.

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– LoneWulf 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

It's nothing but a rich person's kitsch. I've seen better-looking stuff in a Goodwill store.

Besides, who wants to fill up their home with all of that evil? 🤮

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– What-Me-Worry 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

Man, think of all the horrible things that art has witnessed.

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– AmberWins 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Right? I've seen enough of those paranormal shows to know I wouldn't bring any of that into my house.

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– lukelog925 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0

The Rothschilds controlled 90% of the global gold supply for central global banking backing. Trump legally confiscated all of their gold.

BRICS and the US Treasury Note are gold backed from the confiscated Rothschilds gold supply which was stored at the Vatican Bank.

I wonder if the Vatican will declare bankruptcy in May.

Q did say the Pope would have a bad May.

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– bcfromfl 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

My first thought is some form of money laundering? When you get to this level of "art collecting," the potential people bidding on these items is relatively few. I imagine many of these folks are friends, or at least acquaintances.

I realize the first impulse is to think that their cash flow has been shut down, and they are trying to generate some funds. But the kind of things pictured in the video is pocket change to them. If they really needed cash, they have gold bars, real estate, etc., etc.

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– purkiss80 [S] 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

I imagine many of these folks are friends, or at least acquaintances.

🤔🙂👍

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– The_Watcher 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Money laundering is always a good option. Put something into an auction and tell your friend/accomplice to buy it whatever the final cost but guarantee that you will buy it back later for that price plus whatever fee he is owed. Get a pair of anonymous telephone bidders to raise the buyback price appropriately.

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– lsvogel 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

Times getting tough when your money resources have been cut-off! These are not just antiques, these display items, furniture, etc. date back centuries. Placing these for sale on the exclusive; "Christies' auction site is an indication that the Rothschild's money power family is in decline. How many more auctions will be featuring Rothschild's antiquities and near priceless items?

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– TaogTaov 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

It is very interesting and timely. However, I’m not going to read too much into this..... Estate auctions happen all the time. Granted, this one is quite exquisite. I doubt it represents even a fraction of a fraction of the family wealth. For now, I’m going to liken it to the ‘kids’ selling off some of grandpa’s comic book / baseball card collection they found in the attic and just have no interest in them anymore. When auction values the totals start adding up to hundreds of billions, then it might be worth speculating as to the reason.

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– MuckeyDuck 16 points 2 years ago +16 / -0

But if you happen to buy a vase, or pot from the collection, make sure to look inside when you get it home. I bought an old pot from my Aunts estate when she died. Took pot home and found it filled with hundreds of old silver dollars.

Of course I did not keep the silver dollars. I did the honest thing, so I would not have to carry the stinging weight of an impropriety with me the rest of my life, because as you know, a clear conscience is more valuable that a pot of silver dollars.

Since everything my aunt owned went to my mother, her only living relative, I returned to silver dollars to my mother where upon her death she passed them on equally to her five children.

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– TaogTaov 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

👍 for doing the right thing.

Not directed at you - just an aside: I just looked at the catalog of this auction and sorted by highest estimate and it was $25K. Take that $25K and multiply by the number of items (600) and you get $15 Million. Purposefully, That is a very high estimate based on my methods.

I don’t believe the ‘Roths’ literally blink an eye at 15 mill, unfortunately.

Tounge-in-cheek: IDK though they could be raising jimmy comet some start up capital for a new location.

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– MuckeyDuck 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

My initial gut reaction to the Roth's dumping 5918 possessions at once is to ask question: How do you get rid of something important without anyone noticing. Answer is you hide it among thousands of other things that are of no consequence.

I guess this seems silly because why scheme to hide something among many when the secret item could just be transferred in private? And reason this is not a silly line is answered by the question "Who are these people?"

Their people who think they are far superior in intellect, and ability to others, and they delight in the games they play right before our eyes. This is why I believe it's not important who is selling the items. The important thing is to watch who buys the items, and then evaluate what is key about that item, although we will probably not know who is on the purchase end.

Q did have one drop #184 that said:

Their need for symbolism will be their downfall. Follow the Owl & Y head around the world.

I do not know what a Y head is, and I saw only one Owl head among all the other items, and it looked like a very innocuous item.

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– TaogTaov 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

I think the Y is the typical baphomet ‘goat’ head as a symbol. It shows up in a lot of places.

5918 items? I must have missed that, where did you see that as the number of possessions? I just looked at the auction and saw around 600. 5918 would definitely raise my interest. 600 in that auction that, optimistically, could bring 15 million would be a no-never-mind in roth’s world.

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– MuckeyDuck 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

I think you are right, and I was wrong because in trying to browser all Roth's pieces I think I mistakenly clicked a link that sent me to view all Christy items.

Here you will see 5918: https://www.christies.com/en/browse?sortby=relevance

Sorry about that chief!

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– Huckleberry1776 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

The Roths are having a yard sale to make ends meet. Man inflation is way worse than we thought. LOL!

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– Patriot11Retiree 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

The auction house states these items are from the estate of Baron James de Rothschild, his wife Betty and their sons Baron Alphonse and Baron Gustave. They all died over a century ago. Who is selling off these items?

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– deleted 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0
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– Nitrojunkie72 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

The older generation is dying off and the younger ones are useless. They need to sustain. I think a whole lot of old money and assets are going to hit the market over the next few decades

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– purkiss80 [S] 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

https://nitter.net/Ultrafrog17/status/1713948438038184432

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– jhartz39 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Trump has destroyed their system of theft by draining the swamp.

US corporation no longer feeds their evil system.

Trump confiscated the Rothchild wealth from the Vatican Bank.

Trump disrupted the drug trade out of Afghanistan.

Trump is arresting all the child traffickers.

All of the globalist revenue streams have been eliminated.

The money Biden was giving to Ukraine was going to the Zionist in Israel and globalists at the UN in an attempt to keep the New World Order alive.

When Ukraine fizzled out, you saw the money laundering operation move over to the new war, the middle man (Ukraine) was cut out of the picture. Zelensky may have been taking too big a cut for his nose candy?

The New World Order is slowly dying and the best is yet to come.

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– TheGr8Pumpkin 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Dasting

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– TheGr8Pumpkin 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Transfer wealth out in the open? Are the purchaces traceable?

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– n00bie 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

To offset the rising price of precious metals?

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– Qtoad 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Reminds me of this rich older couple i saw on tv,

they were crying/sniffling because they had to sell their yacht/private airplane because times were getting “tough” lol..

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– Feelsgoodman 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

🐸👌

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– heebiejeebie 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

maybe they're making room for some different gaudy shit!

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– Tewdryg 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I wonder if the move is to New Zealand or not..... It seems to be a place where the elite are buying up land.

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– CaptainChrisPBacon 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Maybe they 'were' the richest family. Now they are cashed strapped.

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– blueballs43 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

LIKELY HELPING ONE OF THEY NEIGHBORS OPEN A STITCH AND STYLE INTHE TOWN!

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– Larro256 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

To quote my grandpappy. I never saw so much stuff I don't need.

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– Feelsgoodman 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

"That's right, Miss Lady; as my grandpappy, Ol' Reliable used to say... I don't recollect that I've ever mentioned Ol' Reliable before?"

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– covfefeit1 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Who's buying it? "Another Family Member or linked corporation" not leaving family at all???????

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– Feelsgoodman 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

"We have come to view the tapestries!"🐸

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