Once elections are fixed (made fair) term limits could be bad - it's possible that good people will need longer than a fixed term to raise the next generation, or finish projects of importance, and with free elections why force them out? any corruption could be voted out in secure elections so that is less of a worry. The problem has not been term limits but fraudulent voting keeping people in even when they are terrible.
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I like this and would add:
Yearly Audits of ALL in Congress
No Hidden Accounts/Slush Funds that pay off or make Settlements to Victims of Sexual/Other Crimes by Members of Congress
Those are good! If I might add one:
I know alot of anons love the Trump guys, I do too... But there's been way too much fuckery and faggotry due to dynastic rulers throughout all of history.
It's time to nip that shit in the bud. "Your grand daddy was president huh? Well good luck selling used cars pal!"
Agreed and kek!
The only change I would make is bills must be under 100 pages. The shorter the law in question, the easier it is to check for corrupt bullshit.
And only 1 subject bills - no more omnibus bills or crap like Israel and Ukraine aid together, tied to a military pay raise or something similar.
Agreed. Heck, even 50 pages sounds like too much. If possible, make them 25 pages or less. That's long enough to get into the details but not so long that they hide who knows what in there that nobody can find. AND the pages must be standardized 8.5"x11" regular paper, 12 point font, Times New Roman, 1" margins, single spaced, no extra spacing between paragraphs. Make 'em do it like we had to in high school and college.
And single line veto.
Somehow we need to remove the money required to run for office to keep politicians from being “owned”.
I would suggest allowing all politicians the same amount of publicity from the MSM for free. And only individual donors can donate to a politician (limited amount per election cycle) and no companies or large entities are allowed to do so.
NO MORE DUAL CITIZENS IN GOVERNMENT DUAL CITIZENS/NON CITIZENS CANNOT OWN PROPERTY
Your Time in district and virtual congress numbers conflict. I'd change it to between 40 and 60% to keep that from being yet another thing the parties argue over. Rep X only spent 48% in DC - he broke the rules. Remember - these people are like 5 year old kids and need everything spelled out or they will pretend it doesn't exist.
Term limits is a good idea because you would get people who never wanted to run would reconsider.
You aren’t suppose to want to stick with a government role. You are suppose to contribute for a time period than allow someone else to contribute.
Also times change.
New blood would be updated with current needs of the people.
Someone new might be willing to kill a project if it’s no longer needed.
Simply put, if our elections are not fixed, nothing will change.
If our elections are not "secured" - the issue is they are fixed. I know - semantics, but it is the first thing I thought of so I bet other people did as well.
Do you secure something that is broken? Semantics right?
But they are fixed, that's how joe won.
Fixed as in rigged
Agreed!
Nah. There’s 300 million people in the country. We have plenty of capable people. We don’t need politicians. We need people who have to live in the world they legislate.
None of what you said makes the argument against term limits.
Career politicians can win even in "fair" elections, because it's never going to be fair. Incumbent advantage will never disappear, but at least you can force it to move forward at some point.
There is more than one problem with the legal process, and fixing one does not negate the others.
As long as there are term limits on the Presidency, there should be term limits on the people who pushed to shackle the Presidency to those limits.
In fact term limits won't fix shit, they will just rig it for the person they get after whomever leaves, they have a deep bench.
If they are compromised with blackmail,it doesn't work when they are gone.
How many upcoming stars do the wef have? They will simply find another willing to be corrupted. Plenty of degenerates out there, after all if the voting is rigged it doesn't matter who is running.
So we just give up then?
Hell no lmao, that's the last thing we do. We keep fighting. I can only speak for myself, but I will never let my country be taken by these fuck sticks.
That's the spirit. When enough people wake up things like term limits don't matter much.
Exactly
"They" yup. If "we" don't take over all the roles of govt. "They" will.
"We" give them away to them by apathy.
We are the problem
Are those to represent stutters or something?
I think a better solution is growing the House to more accurately reflect the population. The fucking scum capped the number of House members back in the 20s iirc. It really hasn't changed much since then.
Growing the House beyond 435 members vs doing the shuffle they do each decade would dilute the power of each House member. Congressional districts would be much smaller. I think you'd see an end to the two party stranglehold since it'd become too expensive for any party to maintain a nationwide presence. Most importantly, it'd make it a bigger pain in the ass to pass any legislation.
I also think a bigger House would basically cause higher turnover given the more distributed power. Remove the lavish benefits package and you'd likely have a House that's a better reflection of the population. Nobody sane would make a career out of the House ... That would (hopefully) mean that more people would run for civic duty vs looking to hold a seat for a career.
Party politics is a huge part of the problem. The parties are state-subsidized to a large degree, too, as the state runs the primaries.
... and what country has fair elections? Term limits ensure that no one has the ability to stay in a political office for life - seems reasonable to me. Serve your country then return to the private sector - not exploiting the people of your country by establishing and entrenching a power base in a political office used for corruption and perpetuated by election fraud.
Human nature is corrupt, a human being can only withstand the temptations to abuse power or avoid compromise for so long… term limits force a fresh rotation and limit the depth that weeds can grow their roots.
It can also deplete any expertise the voters found and voted in. It is a dual-edged sword.
If the statesman has a high level of integrity he will mentor his own successor and endorse him/ her for election…that’s how retention of specialized knowledge can be legitimately transferred
Tree Ent style government. Slow and one item at a time... No secret votes.
I'll support any kind of Tolkein influenced government.
I think most on here are not thinking big enough. In order to truly right this ship, "we the people" must be put in control. The hierarchy is "we the people" , our sheriff, our state govt., the federal govt.
We could shrink our federal govt. by about 80%, so not only do we not care about term limits, we wouldn't need to know who most of the congress was. Their significance in our life should be almost invisible.
While we are at it, can we outlaw pharmaceutical advertising? Are we one of only two nations (I think Australia) that allow pharmaceutical companies to advertise their commie drugs.
It has always been my assertion that a part time legislature would do more than term limits.
Counter auto-registration with auto-deregistration.
Dormant for three years and registration automatically removed.
I'd suggest 2 presidential elections - 8 years. At the same time, voter ID, no same-day registration, no provisional or mail-in ballots (only absentee - which are absolutely different from mail-in ballots), paper ballots, election day not month.
I agree.
I also think states and the fed gov't should be prohibited from funding political parties or their primaries. Would make the primaries more reflective of the people.
Do not think anyone should make Washington there residence.
The beurocrats and staff will be the ones in charge because they will never be term limited.
They can be
I agree. Elected officials should not have term limits. If the people want them in office indefinitely, so be it, as long as the elections are fair, transparent, and held regularly.
And the voting public are well informed enough to make sound decisions about candidates and issues. Plus, a much larger % of the voting base so voting becomes a true plurality.