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Trump just testified he was not president in 2021 (twitter.com)
posted 2 years ago by JollyRancherHard 2 years ago by JollyRancherHard +86 / -0
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– Irishman4Trump6 33 points 2 years ago +33 / -0

Why didn’t he follow up with “nor were you Commander In Chief in 2021?” Inquiring minds would like to know!

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– catsfive 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Right?? Good comment but DAMMIT you're stuck at 17

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– SaltyBrit 15 points 2 years ago +15 / -0

President of what? USA or Trump Organization?

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– madmallard 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0

Jolly rancher is a shill

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– Anosha 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

What is the evidence for that beyond having made a factual post that apparently you dislike?

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– Prayingforus20 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Can confirm.

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– LBTrumplican2 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

No, Trump isn't the President of the dying US Corporation.

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– BerlinWallCrosser 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0

Factually incorrect. Trump was President from 1/1/21 to 1/20/21 as the Cabal was projected to the sheeple. Do we have this from any other source? I’m calling for the 48-hour rule.

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– JollyRancherHard [S] 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

They were talking about later in 2021.

When he signed his 2021 Statement of Financial Condition.

Tons of sources reported this today.

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– special1ntere5t 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Depends on what th tons of sources were? If it’s being widely reported then 48hr rule would be my recommendation

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– JollyRancherHard [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

The 48 hour rules makes zero sense in this case.

This isn't a story coming out of nowhere.

Trump testified in open court in one of the biggest news stories of the day where dozens of reporters were first hand witnesses.

In this case, you basically need to just confirm it was heard correctly.

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– JollyRancherHard [S] 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0

I know this has been discussed on and off, but here it is from Trump himself.

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– JollyRancherHard [S] 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

Early in the trial they showed that on January 15, 2021 Trump reinstated himself as trustee of the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust, This is the trust that holds all or almost all of his assets and was set up when Trump was going to become president.

https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1719855134732144765/photo/1

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– unruly 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

Question was in relation to president of the Trump Organization, not the USA.

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– JollyRancherHard [S] 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Why do you say that?

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– Sadness 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Um, because the trial is about Trump Organization, not POTUS-status. Do keep up.

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– JollyRancherHard [S] 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

The question was clearly about Trump being president of the US.

He didn't sign the 2020 financial documents because he was POTUS and was no longer a trustee.

However in Jan 2021 he put himself back as a trustee.

This question was about the 2021financial documents.

A lawyer from the New York attorney general’s office, asked him if he had received copies of the Trump Organization’s financial statements in 2021.

“I was so busy in the White House with China, Russia, and keeping the country safe,” Trump said.

I'll keep up, if you'll keep up.

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– Moosemeadow 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

God Bless President Donald Trump, his wife, family friends Q followers, most of all his security team and their families.

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– MICHIGANisRED 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

But..... He was president for the first 19-1/2 days of 2021.........so now they can come after him for purgery.

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– Lyonessrising 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

No. Trump said he was a wartime President During wartime CIC is in power. You dont have to be President to be CIC. This took place during his Presidential term. So by the time that year arrived he was functioning as CIC. Not as president of the corporation.

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– MICHIGANisRED 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

I get what you're saying. That side of it all crossed my mind too.

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– Sadness 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Aha.

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– sAVAge_bEaST 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Joe Biden was / is the Resident

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– merf 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Hmm, like a white house?

“When you say intend, intend doesn’t mean we’ll do it,” Trump says. “I intend, but we have a right to turn it back to a house.”

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– UpwardBound 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Why would they even ask that question?

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– pby1000 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

So it is part of the trial record.

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– dec3169 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Because they want to prove it was he that signed the documents in question as President of the Trump Organization.

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– Surfsup 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Not president of the corporation

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– lukelog925 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Were under military control.

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– special1ntere5t 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

President of the corporation or the republic??

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– JollyRancherHard [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Nope. The president of the US, the guy who sits in the White House

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– ThomasMaker 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Kind of a 'loose' question and technically true as he wasn't, for about a hot minute....(remember that golf video when he corrects someone with '45th AND 47th'.............)

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– Notimportant81 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Well, duh.

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– CrazyMountain 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I believe this is accurate. It's likely neither are president. They are both president elect, states actually never certified their 2020 results.

If I'm right, he'll become president if Biden passes but right right now, no one is president, 46 does not exist. Biden and the media are pulling a fast one by lying to the people.

It will come out. Give it time.

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– Lyonessrising 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Because he wasnt. He was and still is Commander in chief War time President is converted to CIC. The republic still has yet to have a Presidential election since the 1880s period..

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– JollyRancherHard [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

The republic still has yet to have a Presidential election since the 1880s period..

So how did Trump get to be President.

He was and still is Commander in chief War time President is converted to CIC.

How does this work? What's the mechanism of this? Isn't the law, that only Commander in chief the president?_

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– Cyberhawk 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Simple. What makes a great movie? Great actors. Who asked Trump to run? Who is helping who here? Do you think the military just sits around thinking of what bad will happen to the country next? Most of your questions and confusion can be fixed by learning more about the military’s role in this. The most sophisticated military on the planet. If your confused, good. So are we about many things. That’s on purpose. We all have jobs to do in this.

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– JollyRancherHard [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

My problem with that is it would thoroughly illegal.

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– Cyberhawk 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Whose laws are you insisting on, the current corrupt government? The military has a duty to uphold. And they are doing just that.

Trump was right, he isn’t the president. No one is. Understand the “Law of War.” Many post it and translate what and to the why. Don’t try to figure everything out. You won’t be able to, and will eventually break. Trust the plan means exactly that….you need to trust in a few things. God before everything of course. The rest will be what it has to be.

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– metacodematrix 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

How familiar are you with the year 1871?

Read through this from 2 months ago: https://greatawakening.win/p/17r98zcaHa/help-me-anons-the-organic-act-of/c/

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/28/3002

From sub-section 15 (A) from the link above:

(15) “United States” means—

(A) a Federal corporation;

...

Notice how point (B) and (C) uses circular reasoning?


EDIT: I was at fault for using the term circular reasoning here. Further investigation led to the understanding that the definitions are specifiers for sub-categorizing entities of the "United States", as in, specifying three instances of where "United States" is represented in terms of collecting federal debt.

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– JollyRancherHard [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Some tremendous albums came out in 1871.

Who's Next, Tapestry, Sly Stone, Zeppelin, The Stones, solo Beatles stuff.

Oh wait you said 1871, never mind

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– metacodematrix 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Nice use of sarcasm.

What happened in 1871 politically? What happened with D.C.?

Have you read any of the later speeches that President Ulysses S. Grant held?

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– Sadness 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

That was akshully Quite funny - I Lol.

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– metacodematrix 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

It was, I will admit that. Bound to happen when not being specific enough.

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– JollyRancherHard [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Good edit

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– Sadness 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

'tis one of the weapons of the disinfo war to use double meanings.

Once one is aware of the tactic, one can unravel the real meanings. Sometimes the phrases are double-barrelled as well. Those ones often get parrotted all around the ether. So, you hear it oftern, and can be lulled into thinking it is a THING.

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– metacodematrix 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I fully agree, and further investigation led me to seeing the angle of presenting this "thing" that many want to grasp onto to find meaning and a simple answer to theories floating around on the ether, which also leads to it easily being debunked.

I did find something interesting though. Sub-section 15 (A) is presented all over the ether and is easily debunked, but a further look at sub-section 10 from the same source indicates that legally, a state or local government entity can be seen as a person.

What happened with D.C. in 1871? Were there any federal corporations before 1871?

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... continue reading thread?
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– JollyRancherHard [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

There's an 8 part series on Apple TV on how all these classic albums came out that year.

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– JollyRancherHard [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

No I don't see the circular reasoning.

And I think this is massively misunderstood.

Why are there three definitions of the US here.

(15) “United States” means— (A) a Federal corporation; (B) an agency, department, commission, board, or other entity of the United States; or (C) an instrumentality of the United States.

Because the entire section is about debt collection, it's about what means to owe money to the United States.

28 U.S. Code Chapter 176 - FEDERAL DEBT COLLECTION PROCEDURE

B covers things owing taxes

A covers things like owing money to Fannie Mae or the Post Office or the FDIC

C. I dunno what C is.

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– metacodematrix 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

The article from Cornell linked covers definitions used within the "U.S. Code 28 Part VI (PARTICULAR PROCEEDINGS) Chapter 174 (FEDERAL DEBT COLLECTION PROCEDURE)".

Federal debt collection, and who is the recipient of the debt collected?

Federal meaning central government, so why would the definition for "United States" in terms of federal debt collection refer to "United States" as a corporation as one of the options in terms of defining what "United States" means in the context of collecting federal debt?

Try to combine the sentences into three different sentences with the given prefix:

"United States" means a Federal corporation;

"United States" means an agency, department, commission, board or other entity of the United States.

"United States" means an instrumentatlity of the United States.


How are you able to discern that (B) related to things owing debt? Read the second sentence constructed above combining the prefix and (B).

Those three definitions defined what "United States" is defined as in terms of who the recipient of federally collected debt can be when debt is collected.

(C) means a subsidiary branch of the central government or an organization that works for the central government.

EDIT: In the case of point (A) I will submit to the fact that it can also mean a federal corporation incorporated through congress.

Thus the question becomes, who can incorporate a new corporation? Interesting reading: "Corporate personhood"

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– JollyRancherHard [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Found this as a example of federal instrumentalities

Examples of federal agencies and instrumentalities:

American Red Cross Central Intelligence Agency Federal Trade Commission Social Security Administration Federal credit unions Federal reserve banks

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– deleted 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0
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– JollyRancherHard [S] 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

discussing the 2021 financial statement Trump signed.

Trump brings up the 2021 valuation of the joint venture, but says he wasn’t really involved with it.

Trump says he was very busy as president.

“And just to refresh your recollection, you were not president in 2021?” Wallace asks.

“No I wasn’t,” Trump says, over-pronouncing the words a bit.

Jan 15 2021, Trump reinstated himself as a trustee and thus, the person who would sign statements of financial worth.

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– Q20191776 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

President of what?

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– Prayingforus20 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

The Trump organization

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– JollyRancherHard [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

President of the United States

Trump's first answer was that he did not sign the 2021 financial statement because he was busy at the White House with Russia and China.

The New York lawyer reminded him he was not president in 2021 and he agreed.

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– Fatality 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

He was president in 2021 though.. until Jan 20th 2021.

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– JollyRancherHard [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Yes. They were talking about later in the year

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