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9/11 conspiracy 'theory' no more? Food for thought - I've no idea if there's any truth in this or not. (twitter.com) 🗣️ DISCUSSION 💬
posted 2 years ago by FreedomloverUK 2 years ago by FreedomloverUK +194 / -0
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– WhyAserverWasBuilt 55 points 2 years ago +55 / -0

It was common knowledge around Americans who aren't dumbed down 30 days after it happened most of the truth was known!

Architects and engineers for 9/11. And 911.org and pilots for truth...

These groups did all the work and brought all the truth out.

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– Oh_Well_ian 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0

I never said it accounted for it. I said they adequately explained that the buildings were pre-rigged for demo. EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT PART and we are not arguing that point.

What you're missing is the retrofitting of the drones leads RIGHT BACK to Dov Zakheim, Isreal and Neo-Cons in the Bush Administration.

It's not a Maybe.. It's a CERTAINTY

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– Steppenwolfe 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

I dont have a link, but if some does, that would help in this dialogue.

Set the wayback machine to 1977. Time (or Life) magazine did a full feature article (cover photo, eyc.) of David Rockefeller and the Towers. Within the article, it alluded to the design features. Included were certain features that DR was very proud of. He was telling us back then that something big was going to happen. We just didn't understand the comms they were using.

As I opened, I don't have the link, but I recall Anons had discovered this information about 5-6 uears ago and posted it for all to see. I just don't recall the site. So if anyone who reads this and can post that I would appreciate it.

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– CGIDreams 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

What if some or all of the video we saw was cgi? The real smoke obscured everything, they could’ve taken longer and not collapsed so neatly.

It’s been shown that the people trapped in the towers were way too large in relation to the size of the windows around them.

If you look up an ‘art group’ by the name of the B-Thing, they were in the (completely empty, mind you) towers a few years before 911. And one of their ‘art projects’ was throwing dummies out the window, from the same floors where the planes hit. It’s possible their art footage could’ve been recycled for the people falling. And also their videos and pictures show the empty floor loaded with boxes that imply the towers were rigged. Do searches for B-Thing 911 or B-Thing Gelitin. The stuff isn’t even hidden anymore.

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– Oh_Well_ian 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I did that for clarity and my response is below. lol

don't be daft

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– Oh_Well_ian 13 points 2 years ago +13 / -0

partially... they explained how the official story was impossible but they didn't get to the heart of the conspiracy...

DOV ZAKHEIM is the key figure at every point of the plot

  1. Comptroller looking for Rummy's missing $2.3 Trillion (spoiler alert >> HE STOLE IT and much of it was used to finance the plot and pay off the plotter nations and individuals)

  2. CEO at Systems Planning Corporation, who designed the Flight Termination System, capable of flying up to 8 domestic jetliners, at once.

  3. Had contract with US Air Force to retrofit 36 Boeing 767's into fuel platforms

  4. Board of Directors at Securecom in 1993 and contractors for security at the WTC when it was bombed

https://www.thelibertybeacon.com/how-9-11-was-funded-the-man-behind-the-missing-2-3-trillion/

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– VoatAnon1984 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

How much did 9/11 cost? $2.3T

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– LongTimeListener 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

And because we had gotten so close to the Truth and that Truth was beginning to spread they made a character in Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen to specifically paint the picture of 9/11 truthers as loons. That shit always stuck in my craw. I always knew that Transformers was some sort of propaganda psyop but the pictures were entertaining and I would have continued to watch them until that happened.

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– Donny_Fiasco 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

^Correct

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– FreedomloverUK [S] 17 points 2 years ago +17 / -0

I'm struggling to get my head around the possibility that there could be Government servants in positions of power who could be this evil.

Then again, think JFK, Vietnam, Covid, Russia/Russia/Russia, J6, Ukraine ---- the list goes on and on.

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– cryofreeze 17 points 2 years ago +17 / -0

Eventually you'll suspect that 9/11 was a satanic ritual to bring in the anti-christ. No matter how bad you think it is, it always ends up being worse.

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– Trouble07 14 points 2 years ago +14 / -0

I hate how right this is

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– WhyAserverWasBuilt 16 points 2 years ago +16 / -0

You are 24 years behind. To help you just look in the mirror tell yourself our country and Israel were involved. It was the biggest insurance claim as the buildings were full of asbestos and they couldn't do anything... To all the gold stored below that was missing after 9/11.

In the building down the street that just fell at 5:00 from a waste can fire?

Okay. I need you for all the work we've done to tell me what it is you're having a hard time understanding at this point?

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– JonathanE 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

I remember all the stuff about the gold disappearing in trucks via underground tunnels at the time, but I don't have any resources for info - got any?

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– FreedomloverUK [S] 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

Thanks fren.

I follow all that but the problem I have is that there is something in my brain (defence mechanism?) that's telling me that this is so outrageous and evil that it can't possibly be true. On the other hand, since the advent of DJT in 2016 (at least in my World), I'm now beginning to believe that absolutely anything can be true.

For example, I served with the British Army '72 to '95 and believed, without question, that NATO was a defensive construct and anything USSR/Russia was evil. Since the SMO in Ukraine I know realise that NATO is an aggressive and expansionist US proxy and has been ever since the breakup of the Warsaw pact and their aggression in the Balkans.

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– Proud17Peasant 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

The main thing that caught my eye in your original comment seems to be that you refer to them as government servants. This is more proper than calling them "public servants", which they are often referred to as here in the U.S. Govern: to steer or control Mentes: more than one mind

They do much more to serve the government than they do to serve the public.

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– LongTimeListener 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

The SEC was in Building 7. Wasnt there also a C_A or FBI station there? And it housed thousands of Enron docs and Im sure many more that incriminated the death cult and their puppets.

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– Nonnajoy 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

When the towers fell, I called my husband, architect, and begged him to come home. Seeing the second tower fall really upset me. My brother in law, and a nephew were there at the time (both ended up being ok, at least physically, not so emotionally, but that is another story.

I asked my husband how this could happen. He said that the building codes were changed because of the completely different method of construction - the building wasn't supported by the central column, but by the outside walls, and that they had to change the method of fireproofing those walls, not using the existing standard - asbestos. Whatever they used instead wasn't as effective as asbestos which was too heavy to use, so the substitute fireproofing on the exterior steel failed, the steel weakened, and the collapse began, with each floor failing in return as the floor above added it's weight to the floor below... domino fashion.

Not, there may have been asbestos elsewhere in the building, but it was the "open floor" plan that was the achilles heel, according to his understanding. He graduated from MIT, so did know his stuff about codes, changes, etc.

He died 12 years ago, and obviously may have looked for an understandable change in construction and building codes, so he could understand what might have contributed to the collapse, and thus fastened upon the explanation he gave me.

I would prefer that one, emotionally, than to believe that both USA and Israel deliberately killed all those people.

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– Oh_Well_ian 13 points 2 years ago +13 / -0

I've had my head around it for over 20 years. The plot is laid out right in front of everyone, all they have to do is research DOV ZAKHEIM.

It's a CULT (Synagogue of Satan) and the destruction of the WTC was symbolic as is the Freedom Tower.

EVIL is their power.

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– FreedomloverUK [S] 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

How the fuck can these demons be defeated?

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– Oh_Well_ian 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

Light of Day...

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– Hilltopperpete 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

We perceive the physical, but the war is spiritual. Trying to win a physical war against a spiritual enemy is folly.

For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places. -Ephesians 6:12

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– HeShallTreadAlone 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

A breath from The Son of Man ought to do it...

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– MAG768720 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

Read about Operation Northwoods.

The Joint Chiefs of Staff had plotted to murder American citizens in the streets of Washington DC and Miami in order to falsely claim there was a communist plot by Cuba, to justify invasion of Cuba.

The plot also involved switching out aircraft that had real people on board (FBI assets) for aircraft that looked the same but could be flown by remote control. It would crash near Cuba, and the claim would be a highjacking by Cuban "extremists."

Learn about that one, and you will see the basic structure of the 9/11 plot had begun decades earlier.

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– Oh_Well_ian 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Orlando Bosch

https://spartacus-educational.com/JFKbosch.htm

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– PhDinNY 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

At least back then, they considered using a plane without people on board. They don't seem to care about innocent people dying as a result of their activities these days.

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– MemeToDeath2021 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

They are not “Government servants”, at least not in the sense that you are using. They are unelected, selected foreign agent infiltrators doing what they are instructed to do. And everyone else gets a choice: “take the money and shut-up or you or your family get murdered by paid assassins.”

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– Donny_Fiasco 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

I have some info from a first responder I met only days ago.

He's currently very ill but can't get the government to cover his lung issues until it's officially diagnosed as lung cancer. All his friends are dead from the same thing

I'll post the info he gave me a little later.

{Sorry to hi jack the thread it just reminded me}

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– Mister_Winston 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

Speaking as a former normie who had disdained 9/11 truthers at the time: This won't move the needle for current normies. Yes, many more are waking up, but not enough for this to be a paradigm shift. They would have to accept that the W Bush admin was complicit in an act of war against US citizens, and that's still a bridge too far for them.

Normies will only accept the truth of 9/11 after they understand that their government is fake and controlled.

For me, the stolen 2020 election showed me that. Obviously it will take much more to wake up everyone else.

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– UpwardBound 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

Is there any higher degree of treason than to plan and implement an attack against one's own country? Heads must roll.

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– VoatAnon1984 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Gelatin and B-thing, planted charges to take the towers down - turn them into Gelatin

Urban Moving Systems owned by an Israeli. Business front for the operation?

Dancing Israelis, recording the outcome of their work?

https://publicdelivery.org/gelitin-b-thing/

https://911research.fandom.com/wiki/Urban_Moving_Systems

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– Hope4thefuture 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

A slight smirk by GWB when he was told “mission accomplished” while in a classroom.

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– hippielouie 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Jesse Ventura had a lot to say about this too. he even had a show-Conspiracy Theory. It ran for three seasons from 2009 to 2012

https://www.today.com/popculture/jesse-ventura-claims-gov-t-involved-9-11-wbna35728268

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– bluewhiteandred 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

building 7 should make it obvious

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– CharismaDeye 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Don't forget Boaz and Joachim

The two towers of freemasonry that must be brought down so that there is order from chaos. Also the alter of Solomon is relevant too. What was the name of that company.in WTC7 again?

You mean the Solomon Brothers in building 7?

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– PhDinNY 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I spoke with a steel worker who was pretty familiar with the twin tower designs, and he was absolutely convinced that it was planes and fire, and nothing else, that brought the towers down. I brought up bldg7, but he didn't seem to know much about that, so hopefully I opened his eyes a little there. However, today, I sent him a link to the architects and engineers for truth website. Hopefully he will not dismiss it without looking into it.

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– whataboutbobs 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

So, I looked into this a bit, it looks like the person who was saying this was Paul Joseph Watson from Infowars.

Francesco supposedly made the statement in 2007 - he hadn't been involved in government since the mid-80s so I'm not sure what access he'd have at that point.

He did say publicly several times he did not believe 9/11 was a conspiracy, which you can see here: http://archivio.lastampa.it/LaStampaArchivio/main/History/tmpl_viewObj.jsp?objid=7190957

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– Zromrlhzrd 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

100% correct

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