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It just keeps getting weirder (twitter.com)
posted 2 years ago by Excelsior 2 years ago by Excelsior +266 / -0
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– changeagent 67 points 2 years ago +67 / -0

So... three options I can think of.

  1. Cabal infiltrated security and wanted Trump to be killed.

  2. It was staged as part of the movie, and no one was actually hurt (like the Ashli Babbit thing).

  3. There was an actual mistake or confusion and that building was left unattended.

Personally, I give #3 a -89% (yes, that is a minus).

The fact that the shooter's last name is Violet and Trump misspelled violence as violent the other day (yesterday?) leads me to hope that it was #2... otherwise, if the Cabal is able to infiltrate the current Secret Service detail around Trump, then the game has changed.

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– SiBear117 41 points 2 years ago +41 / -0

It's #1. A person has died.

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– suleo 18 points 2 years ago +18 / -0

How?

If the white hats through webs of intrigue caused the death of an innocent rallygoer, just to validate their 'shot heard around the world' prophecy, they're even worse pieces of shit than the deep state.

I'm not ok with that which is why, even though I don't think the WHs have been very clean, I also don't think they'll fall that low. Because at that point, they are indistinguishable from the deep state.

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– AmateurExpert 29 points 2 years ago +29 / -0

Are you saying deaths can’t be faked, and fake reports of deaths can’t be issued?

There’s been sunk boats to fake things, and run fake charges to blow up buildings, and fake fake fake fake fake fake fake, but “dead rallygoer” can’t be faked?

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– deleted 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0
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– GodLovingPatriot 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Are the victims 10000% confirmed. Total proof?

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– PandaMoon17 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

You have a lot to learn about how reality works. Idealism is called IDEAlism for a reason.

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– Jackdagger 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Unfortunately I believe this to be largely naive thinking. I used to say the same but something could have gone awry or it could be staged orrrr there is more to the story. Maybe it wasn't an innocent rally goer. But either way to think there won't be deaths of innocent people with the WH plan is clearly not true or the past 6 or 7 years would be smooth not full of violent illegals, etc.

War is brutal even when you have a plan.

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– intellectual-darkweb 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

The WHs couldn’t fake a death?

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– Rootcause 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Died? How do you know this as fact? Were you there as an eye witness? We only "know" what we see & hear on the "news" and social media.

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– deleted 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0
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– GodLovingPatriot 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Proof?

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– Armymedic88 25 points 2 years ago +25 / -0

If it is proven that this was "staged" Trump would be DONE! I don't think this was staged at all.

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– Bibloop 20 points 2 years ago +20 / -0

It's not staged. I think SS was infiltrated. The stakes are getting higher just like a later part of a movie.

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– eagle-eyes2020 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

When you see the full moment Trump shouts "Fight, Fight, Fight", you see how damn angry he is. That speaks for your theory.

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– FractalizingIron 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Yeah. To posit that this was somehow a white hat staged event is to propose that the White Hats are just as bad as the Black Hats, but hey, "They are on our side....."

I applaud people's willingness to question everything, but the "staged" proposition is about as flawed logically as anything we've seen (theories) over the past few years.

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– SeeAreJay 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

The people behind him gawked like they couldnt believe it

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– enough_of_the_racism 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

But then there is the guy sitting there, shrugging with his Slurpee in his hand, like the film at the movie theater stopped

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– Throwaway2024ii 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0

You'd be surprised how calm you can be when someone gets shot or a gun goes off next to you.

Ask me how I know 😬

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– Notimportant81 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

That was my reaction.

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– Nolagirl99 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

The caddy shack guy?

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– gcroix 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

The Wife and I have had this exact conversation tonight.

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– DarQ2light 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

If is a huge word

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– GGRockz 17 points 2 years ago +17 / -0

People were killed.

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– xchainlinkx 23 points 2 years ago +23 / -0

Were they? Were the alleged children from Sandy Hook killed?

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– GGRockz 14 points 2 years ago +14 / -0

Sorry.

We know people who were there and saw it.

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– DarQ2light 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

You might have seen a ghost Army psyop. Even Chris Angel can fool people.

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– deleted 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0
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– GGRockz 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

The gunman:

https://x.com/L_ThinkTank/status/1812267557472072109

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– GGRockz 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

https://greatawakening.win/p/17teERSEYl/shooter-after-he-was-shot-on-roo/c/

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– TheBigGuysSmokingGun 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Believe what you will, nobody knows. But if a MAGA supporter’s head popped to justify this show….im out

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– Irishman4Trump6 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

If staged blood packet was in Trumps MAGA hat. Trump grabs for his ear as he is ducking for cover pops blood packet - blood trickles onto ear and face.

Trump gets up up without hat - Secret Service Agent seen with hat in his right hand helping GEOTUS (thus removing evidence from crime scene so FBI can fuck up) Patriots that got shot had packets as well. Taken away via ambulance and medical helicopter. Only way I can see it as FF from the WH.

Or was an assassination attempt by DS and GEOTuS is pissed!

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– FractalizingIron 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Sad you got down votes. You're approaching this from a critical thinking perspective. Nothing wrong with that.

Personally, I think there is 0.000001% possibility that this was staged, but it's not wrong, in fact its good to exercise the mind and work through the dimensions.

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– Rootcause 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Right - I have more questions than answers on this one! Ultimately which side benefits from this event?

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– GGRockz 22 points 2 years ago +22 / -0

We had friends there and saw it.

They were right next to the person shot in the head.

Stop it.

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– FractalizingIron 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Perhaps you might write up a post with what your friends relayed to you. A frog on the ground is worth 10 in the bush.

I don't blame anyone for questioning. We are trained to question. But people need to look inside and reflect on what motivates their thinking or conclusions.

I think its a rather ..... distracted .... worldview that could logically think that DJT and team 'staged' this.

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– WillWorkFor556 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Prayers to the victims and to those who have to live with all of this. Send my best to your friends.

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– Rootcause 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

So we are supposed to believe a random person on the internet? Bottom line is we don't know you and you don't know us. I certainly wouldn't bet my life on what you are saying is true. Understand? It is extremely difficult to verify what you are saying.

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– Notimportant81 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

The dr who gave the deceased cpr said he saw brain matter from the head wound and someone else is critically injured.

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– Qtoad 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

A man interviewed said it was a woman who got shot in the hand and forearm.

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– intellectual-darkweb 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

I don’t understand how you can just trust what you see online. Were people killed? Can WHs fake as good or better than BHs?

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– GGRockz 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I live 25 minutes away. I have been there.

My friends were there.

I was supposed to go but couldn't.

They were 50 yards from shooter.

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– intellectual-darkweb 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

So they got to see the movie up close? Perhaps you don’t understand what Q means by movie?

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– Slyver 17 points 2 years ago +17 / -0

IMO, the best way to look at whether or not an event was organic, and/or who was in charge of an event is to look at the actual outcome of the event, i.e., who actually benefits.

In this case, there was an attempted "assassination" on Trump, where the shooter hit, but in the most visible, yet least harmful way possible.

How many coincidences...

Most visible, least harmful.

I mean, this "gunshot wound" won't even slow him down from shaving, yet the streak of blood that everyone in the world will see makes it very dramatic and "real".

Trump is now the "victim" of a violent attack. That is a position of incredible power politically. There was also all sorts of other suspicious stuff going on (no SS on the roof, etc.), and yet even people here are insisting their belief that "this wasn't staged." How will normies see it if there are even people here who don't get it?

I see only two possibilities here:

  1. The Cabal were behind this and Trump was never intended to be killed, but is intended to be discredited by being blamed for a Smollett like false flag
  2. The WHs were behind this for whatever reasons they have (which will become apparent after the fallout).

I suggest we will have to wait and see what actually happens in the coming days and weeks (who gets blamed, hidden evidence, who gets woken up by this, etc.) to determine the most likely scenario. But whatever happens, thinking that it is playing out organically is utterly foolish. All the world's a stage. Everything that makes it to "headline news" is wagging the dog to one extent or another. People must learn how unbelievably true that is before any real awakening can occur.

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– SixTeaNine 14 points 2 years ago +14 / -0

Or, you could go with Occam's Razor and say that the assassin was just a terrible shot.

Outcomes do not necessarily equate to intent.

EDIT -- just to be clear, I subscribe to the idea that it was a DeepState op but the guy just missed. The inexplicable lack of SS coverage on that rooftop is a giveaway.

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– Slyver 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

Occam's Razor and say that the assassin was just a terrible shot.

First, Occam's Razor is almost never accurate in any complicated system. Things turn out to be always more complicated than the first accepted, "least complex" proposal (in the realm of science, where it is intended to be applied). Occam's Razor is a decision making concept (which path do I take on this decision tree?). It has nothing to do with the actual truth of anything.

Regardless, him being a "terrible shot" would not be according to Occam's Razor.

Occam's Razor requires taking all of the evidence into account. The evidence that presents itself suggests that he was hit, but barely hit. That is just shy of impossible unless it is either intended or completely faked. I'm not saying "it's impossible," I'm speaking statistically. There is the whole of the area that isn't Trump (all the world but Trump), and there is all of Trump. Hitting him precisely on the boundary between those two spaces (on just the very surface of his skin) in a place that would seem extremely life threatening, but would turn out to actually be almost completely harmless, and yet also be where the camera would pick it up perfectly without trying (the side of his face that would face the camera as he was led away) is the hardest shot in the world.

Statistically speaking, it is the least likely outcome by about a hundred orders of magnitude. Thus if we were to apply Occam's Razor as you suggest, the most likely outcome is that something else happened than that the shooter was a "bad shot" as you suggest.

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– ArmyLady 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

I heard he turned his head or would have been hit.

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– WhiteHairedJudge 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

This is not an example of the principle of parsimony that underlies Occam's razor.

Occam's Razor requires taking all of the evidence into account. The evidence that presents itself suggests that he was hit, but barely hit. That is just shy of impossible unless it is either intended or completely faked. I'm not saying "it's impossible," I'm speaking statistically. There is the whole of the area that isn't Trump (all the world but Trump), and there is all of Trump. Hitting him precisely on the boundary between those two spaces (on just the very surface of his skin) in a place that would seem extremely life threatening, but would turn out to actually be almost completely harmless, and yet also be where the camera would pick it up perfectly without trying (the side of his face that would face the camera as he was led away) is the hardest shot in the world.

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– Slyver 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Outcomes do not necessarily equate to intent.

This is what we are supposed to believe. We receive constant training to make us believe that; from the media, from school, etc. I suggest that this is false more often than not on anything that makes it into the broad media. At least that is what my (very deep dive) investigation suggests.

All the world really is a stage. Getting people to see that is hard, because the evidence is hidden deep. If you don't believe me, but want to be sure I'm wrong, read my report. It might change your mind (like it has thousands of other people).

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– Paul_Revere 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

"Or, you could go with Occam's Razor and say that the assassin was just a terrible shot."

RSBN was reporting that the killer was 150 yards away. Yeah, I know -- there are military sharpshooters for whom that would be no probem. But for just about anyone else, 150 yards is a long way off.

Point is, even a military-level sniper is likely to have problems with a moving target at 150 yards. More than one bystander would likely be hit.

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– Slyver 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

even a military-level sniper is likely to have problems with a moving target at 150 yards

First, he was NOT a "moving target." On the contrary he was as stationary as a deer drinking water. In the hunting world, that's basically the deer jumping into your freezer.

Second, standard practice distance for hunting is 100 yards (at least where I grew up). That's the range were we calibrate our sights, because you know if you miss the bullseye at that range, your sights are off. Common long range practice is 200 yards. Hitting 150 yards may seem like a lot for anyone who doesn't shoot, but for anyone who spends time at the range on a semi-regular basis (or grew up hunting), they will have ZERO issues hitting a standing target at 150 yards. Hell, it wouldn't even be hard to hit someone in the eye at that range, much less "anywhere in the head area".

The hardest shot would be scratching the ear.

Now if you put your target out to 500 yards, then it starts getting a little bit "military-level sniper" range. Under 200, and your just talking anyone who grew up in Texas.

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– TaQo 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

No isn't...150 yards is nothing on iron sights using an 81 year old Garand that's been bashed to hell...

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– carlodagunz 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Sharpshooters are typically deployed in pairs. One acts as the spotter, who does the calculations, and one is the triggerman, who is responsible for adjusting the rifle and taking the shot. Trained marksmen also do not usually aim for the head if the center of mass is exposed.

For anyone who doesn't realize how far 150 yards is and how difficult a shot is at a distance, a target that would be 6ft tall at 1 yard shrinks to just under half an inch (31/64ths) in size to the naked eye at 150 yards, and that's the size of the target from head to toe, not just the head.

The human head, meanwhile, is about 9 inches from chin to crown for someone 6ft tall, which reduces to less than 0.05 inches at 150 yards, assuming you have no magnification. An untrained shooter would probably need at least 10x magnification to make the shot, and that's assuming they account for wind and have their scope properly zero'd in for that distance.

EDIT: To make one thing clear, I think we are all collectively very lucky that the shooter did not account for wind direction and speed, because that is the most likely reason that Trump wasn't killed.

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– SixTeaNine 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

There are plenty of teenagers out there that could hit a target at 150 yards with a high powered rifle and a scope. I haven't shot that far in many months and am pretty confident I could hit a man-sized target under the right conditions.

The fact that this kid was from Bethel Park though...not an area known for breeding hunters. I have questions. Also "what was the caliber" and "did he have a scope" and "was there wind"? Many variables in play here.

Ultimately its why I think the hypothesis that he was aiming for a "near-kill but not an actual kill" is hilariously bad.

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– AmateurExpert 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

I regret that I have but one doot to give for this posting.

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– AmateurExpert 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Powerdooting!

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– Trumpternal 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0

Lost me at Ashli Babbit thing. Ashley babbit was not staged, neither was this shooting today.

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– Suckitreddit 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

Agreed. Ashli is alive= flat earth

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