Back up and track down the individuals that sent this money, and those who received it. Waterboard all of them and find out who else was involved in this fraud.
Correct .
On Sep.10.2000 Rumsfeld said on TV
Pentagon cannot account for 2.7 $ trillion. On Sep. 11.2000 one of biggest crimes organized by Death Star happened
Check the 14th Amendment, if it was paid to illegal immigrants, or it was paid to 'support' insurrection (think color revolution on US soil) then it will be considered as treasonous.
I'm kinda glad they haven't banned you yet u/killerspacerobot. A bit of reliable Shillery keeps it entertaining. Nobody else here disagrees for the sake of disagreement so reliably.
Ordinary citizens Defrauding the US government is not treason unless you have been put in a position of trust/power within government, and your fraud is benefiting America's adversaries. I doubt that's gonna be too difficult to prove.
I am sad to report one of our esteemed colleague, the only expert in our crowd, has been lost in battle. Perhaps he was involved in a killer space attack, defending planet Earth and died protecting his DeMoCrAcY.
lol, looks like he got banned. All of his comments have been deleted. Or perhaps the ridicule got to be too much for him and he retired, deleting all of his comments before his journey home to a communist world to live out a lonely existence in space somewhere.
It's interesting if you start keeping a shill list in a notebook.
Two categories...
'Suspected' and 'High Confidence."
Leave space for Notes. He got to the HC category back before the election.
I am sure he will be back. I think he has been here for a while under different usernames. This current alias is only 248 days old. I have had dialogue with someone that has the same writing pattern and superiority complex for the last 4-5 years. I agree with you, his sole mission was to instill doubt and curtail the conversation.
Fraud can be treason easily. If it is not fraud, it could also be larceny, outright theft, embezzlement, it could be classified as any number of things. It could also be sedition.
If the funds we collected through taxes, and then taken for either personal gain, or to fulfill a political agenda or ideology, absolutely could be treason or sedition, either of which can carry the death penalty when convicted.
The lynch mentality is not new and has been here since before Obama era. One can only take so much without wanting pure justice done in the extreme. For the collective crimes done against not just the USA and it's citizens, but all of humanity, it is almost not enough of a punishment, but it will do.
We want to help normies. Sugar coating consequenses for actions is what got us into this mess.
If any of that that fraud is connected to the Plandemic, which was used to subvert our economy and get the globalist ball rolling concerning vaccine passports, digital ID, social credit scoring, etcetera... I'd say the implications could extend beyond merely fraud. Im retarded, though
IT appears that one should find several hammers, so that the defense has a harder time trying to get out of the accusations. So, you are right: Just yelling fraud is not enough.
I'm sure a creative mind could conjure up a scenario where a President and Fed Chairman hatch a plan to flood the country with worthless fiat while selling off strategic assets to shell companies controlled by U.S enemies. Think Killary selling uranium reserves to Russia for example. Or, if you prefer, pallets of gold rather than cash being sent to Iran like Obama did. The imagination doesn't need stretched too far before fraud aligns neatly with treason.
Oh, yeah. Audit the gold reserve. Apparently, gold reserves are still valueing gold at $40 per ounce - in reality it is nearly $3000/oz. But, I have questions about how much is really there, given mysterious disappearances, during for example, 9/11, and as you mentioned, Obummer sending it to Iran.
Those asshats do not deserve to go to Best Korea. Send them to the South. Actually, send them to a deserted island. With no internet, or power, or running water.
Imagine how much better Medicare ( for elders and disabled) could be if money allocated was used legally.
I worked in the Medicaid (for poor people) world for many years and can pinpoint ObamaCare (ACA) as the downfall of a system that prior to that had to be reapplied for and verification received every year. Obama took away our access to systems we used to verify what clients told you about citizenship and income. If info was questionable, the tip went to the applicant.
Then during COVID "crisis" they did away with even having to reapply the annual recertification of benefits. This is why the states screamed so loudly about the medicaid 'cuts' because the cuts were actually people having to reapply.
It did help out the HMO's and Medicare Advantage companies in weakening the small insurance companies that had previously serviced the Medicare and Medicaid services in the state I worked in.
In my state, many good physicians were forced out if they didnt want to follow the new rules for example - requiring them to see a huge number of patients per day and electronic records. Hospitals were forced into conglomerates as well.
Those responsible for these payments are responsible for our $30+ trillion in debt. I say arrest those involved, prosecute and either death penalty or life in prison (the worst prison 8n the U.S., not a country club prison).
For perspective, that's 2700 people or organizations getting 1 billion or 2 billion to 1350 people/organizations. It's a lot of money but it's not too big to be true or so mind blowing normies should dismiss it.
If per the 345 ish million Americans that's about $650 a month for the year. These numbers and simple math need to become commonplace in normie minds. That's what has been stolen from us.
They should give back tax payers any money they've recovered.
Make it clear that the money returned was from government "waste" (read: fraud).
Make this separate from tax refunds so people know the difference
Make it clear that, if payments stop coming, it's because these fraudulent programs were put back in place, so they know who which elected officials are screwing them over.
CFPB, Medicare, Medicaid, FDIC, and the Fed are all funded outside of congressional appropriations and they deal directly with the treasury, unaccountable to anyone. Biggest fraud is in these I bet. Called it here the other day:
Yes. Cleaning up the fraud, abuse, and waste would then allow American seniors to actually get a livable monthly payment instead of existence at the poverty level.
With 3 trillion I bet we could literally build a double border wall, 100 feet high, complete with alligator moat, and still have enough leftover to house and feed every military veteran in need.
This burns my ass so bad! My husband's doc wanted to do a PET scan because he thought T might have cancer. Medicare said, Nope. Yet, they send our money overseas. Hang 'em high.
BTW, thank you, God, T does not have cancer. He had a pneumothorax (collapsed lung) that was causing pain near his pancreas and around his back.
refund everyone's past 3 yrs of fraudulently collected tax payments
provide FREE Medicare A and B for all seniors, no more premiums, no more
"Income-Related Monthly Adjustment Amounts", no more supplement policies or godawful sucky "Advantage" plans
quadruple the monthly social security check for our seniors so they can actually live on the mofo
Amen to that. It is appalling that our seniors and the disabled have to survive on less money than an illegal. They are living at a poverty level while welfare queens and illegals are driving new cars.
I commented on another post that if filing, we should file for an extension to starve the IRS. Now I am saying we should file and demand a return for ever damn dollar that we have been taxed for.
It's 3T dollars not payments. If it is going back a few years it's completely believable. Hard to get the money back but probably some possibility to claw back from any entities involved that have assets. Maybe we could claw back 10%?
Make an example of some of the worst cases.
Ultimately I think we'll have to slash taxes and expenses and grow our way out rather than getting the money back.
Back up and track down the individuals that sent this money, and those who received it. Waterboard all of them and find out who else was involved in this fraud.
Then execute them all for treason.
Oh come on, it's just a few trillion dollars. Nothing to be upset about. /s
written by Donald Rumsfeld.
Correct . On Sep.10.2000 Rumsfeld said on TV Pentagon cannot account for 2.7 $ trillion. On Sep. 11.2000 one of biggest crimes organized by Death Star happened
^^^ I can not Updoot this enough!! Upward Bound...Needs to be the DOGE Stick!! ^^^
Too many ⚰️⚰️⚰️ to count. That’s what I want.
Depending on what the money was used for, treason may not be that big of a stretch.
Check the 14th Amendment, if it was paid to illegal immigrants, or it was paid to 'support' insurrection (think color revolution on US soil) then it will be considered as treasonous.
I'm kinda glad they haven't banned you yet u/killerspacerobot. A bit of reliable Shillery keeps it entertaining. Nobody else here disagrees for the sake of disagreement so reliably.
Ordinary citizens Defrauding the US government is not treason unless you have been put in a position of trust/power within government, and your fraud is benefiting America's adversaries. I doubt that's gonna be too difficult to prove.
I am sad to report one of our esteemed colleague, the only expert in our crowd, has been lost in battle. Perhaps he was involved in a killer space attack, defending planet Earth and died protecting his DeMoCrAcY.
lol, looks like he got banned. All of his comments have been deleted. Or perhaps the ridicule got to be too much for him and he retired, deleting all of his comments before his journey home to a communist world to live out a lonely existence in space somewhere.
It's interesting if you start keeping a shill list in a notebook.
Two categories...
'Suspected' and 'High Confidence."
Leave space for Notes. He got to the HC category back before the election.
His specialty/purpose was "topic derailment."
I am sure he will be back. I think he has been here for a while under different usernames. This current alias is only 248 days old. I have had dialogue with someone that has the same writing pattern and superiority complex for the last 4-5 years. I agree with you, his sole mission was to instill doubt and curtail the conversation.
Where have you been the last 17 years?
Fraud can be treason easily. If it is not fraud, it could also be larceny, outright theft, embezzlement, it could be classified as any number of things. It could also be sedition.
If the funds we collected through taxes, and then taken for either personal gain, or to fulfill a political agenda or ideology, absolutely could be treason or sedition, either of which can carry the death penalty when convicted.
The lynch mentality is not new and has been here since before Obama era. One can only take so much without wanting pure justice done in the extreme. For the collective crimes done against not just the USA and it's citizens, but all of humanity, it is almost not enough of a punishment, but it will do.
We want to help normies. Sugar coating consequenses for actions is what got us into this mess.
If any of that that fraud is connected to the Plandemic, which was used to subvert our economy and get the globalist ball rolling concerning vaccine passports, digital ID, social credit scoring, etcetera... I'd say the implications could extend beyond merely fraud. Im retarded, though
IT appears that one should find several hammers, so that the defense has a harder time trying to get out of the accusations. So, you are right: Just yelling fraud is not enough.
I'm sure a creative mind could conjure up a scenario where a President and Fed Chairman hatch a plan to flood the country with worthless fiat while selling off strategic assets to shell companies controlled by U.S enemies. Think Killary selling uranium reserves to Russia for example. Or, if you prefer, pallets of gold rather than cash being sent to Iran like Obama did. The imagination doesn't need stretched too far before fraud aligns neatly with treason.
Oh, yeah. Audit the gold reserve. Apparently, gold reserves are still valueing gold at $40 per ounce - in reality it is nearly $3000/oz. But, I have questions about how much is really there, given mysterious disappearances, during for example, 9/11, and as you mentioned, Obummer sending it to Iran.
With all these TRILLIONS of dollars we are wasting and misappropriating...I can see why Trump realizes that we can get rid of income tax completely
Just in case you guys missed it....thats a TRILLION! WITH A DAMNED T
And a damn 3 in front of it.
3 trillion $$$ is alot of money. We need that money back.
Sieze their property and make them work off the rest in a North Korean labor camp.
Those asshats do not deserve to go to Best Korea. Send them to the South. Actually, send them to a deserted island. With no internet, or power, or running water.
yeah but the fear porn from the left is that Doge is going to take away your social security and medicare!
and the elder dem voters believe it!
Imagine how much better Medicare ( for elders and disabled) could be if money allocated was used legally.
I worked in the Medicaid (for poor people) world for many years and can pinpoint ObamaCare (ACA) as the downfall of a system that prior to that had to be reapplied for and verification received every year. Obama took away our access to systems we used to verify what clients told you about citizenship and income. If info was questionable, the tip went to the applicant.
Then during COVID "crisis" they did away with even having to reapply the annual recertification of benefits. This is why the states screamed so loudly about the medicaid 'cuts' because the cuts were actually people having to reapply.
It did help out the HMO's and Medicare Advantage companies in weakening the small insurance companies that had previously serviced the Medicare and Medicaid services in the state I worked in.
In my state, many good physicians were forced out if they didnt want to follow the new rules for example - requiring them to see a huge number of patients per day and electronic records. Hospitals were forced into conglomerates as well.
Definitely in the state I worked in.
Those responsible for these payments are responsible for our $30+ trillion in debt. I say arrest those involved, prosecute and either death penalty or life in prison (the worst prison 8n the U.S., not a country club prison).
Overseas Medicaid payments??? I don't understand who is overseas and eligible for Medicaid. WHO?????
Expats, but not at that level. No way.
For perspective, that's 2700 people or organizations getting 1 billion or 2 billion to 1350 people/organizations. It's a lot of money but it's not too big to be true or so mind blowing normies should dismiss it.
If per the 345 ish million Americans that's about $650 a month for the year. These numbers and simple math need to become commonplace in normie minds. That's what has been stolen from us.
They should give back tax payers any money they've recovered.
Make it clear that the money returned was from government "waste" (read: fraud).
Make this separate from tax refunds so people know the difference
Make it clear that, if payments stop coming, it's because these fraudulent programs were put back in place, so they know who which elected officials are screwing them over.
CFPB, Medicare, Medicaid, FDIC, and the Fed are all funded outside of congressional appropriations and they deal directly with the treasury, unaccountable to anyone. Biggest fraud is in these I bet. Called it here the other day:
https://greatawakening.win/p/19AKd0ry3G/the-cfbp-is-apparently-on-the-ch/
$2 Trillion ure could help many eldery and disabled American Citzens.
americans?!
Yes. Cleaning up the fraud, abuse, and waste would then allow American seniors to actually get a livable monthly payment instead of existence at the poverty level.
I have no insurance, this is disgusting. i cant anymore
All those involved with making those payments should immediately be arrested.
With 3 trillion I bet we could literally build a double border wall, 100 feet high, complete with alligator moat, and still have enough leftover to house and feed every military veteran in need.
For 3 trillion dollars we can buy Mexico
I wouldn't pay anywhere near that for Mexico. It smells funny...
And a second wall around DC.
Wtf. Should be a single red sent for that going overseas.
This burns my ass so bad! My husband's doc wanted to do a PET scan because he thought T might have cancer. Medicare said, Nope. Yet, they send our money overseas. Hang 'em high. BTW, thank you, God, T does not have cancer. He had a pneumothorax (collapsed lung) that was causing pain near his pancreas and around his back.
That does it
Now we know it's affordable to:
END IRS and income tax NOW
refund everyone's past 3 yrs of fraudulently collected tax payments
provide FREE Medicare A and B for all seniors, no more premiums, no more "Income-Related Monthly Adjustment Amounts", no more supplement policies or godawful sucky "Advantage" plans
quadruple the monthly social security check for our seniors so they can actually live on the mofo
Amen to that. It is appalling that our seniors and the disabled have to survive on less money than an illegal. They are living at a poverty level while welfare queens and illegals are driving new cars.
Heaven forbid I forget to count the $5 of interest I earned in my savings account last year when I file my taxes...
DOGE is up to $3T and has only barely audited 5% of the goverment! Oh....my.....God
Wait What!!!
Overseas? $2.7 Trillion?
Is this correct? It's trillions, with a "T"? Spokesperson Leavett doesn't seem to react accordingly. This is yuuuuuuge.....
The dirt that DOGE is uncovering is so insane that she's probably become numb to it. Karoline Leveat has The Receipts.
I commented on another post that if filing, we should file for an extension to starve the IRS. Now I am saying we should file and demand a return for ever damn dollar that we have been taxed for.
Over what time span and using what definition of improper?
Excellent questions.
Yet I am still expected to file my taxes.
I wondered when they would get into the trillions. It didn't take long.
Probably all went to Soros
I read a response on X that said this was since 2003. Still. Fuck!
thanks obama
Or fake claims. Paying for migrants Healthcare worldwide? Lotz of possibilities
Ya think?
It's 3T dollars not payments. If it is going back a few years it's completely believable. Hard to get the money back but probably some possibility to claw back from any entities involved that have assets. Maybe we could claw back 10%?
Make an example of some of the worst cases.
Ultimately I think we'll have to slash taxes and expenses and grow our way out rather than getting the money back.