That is exactly right. Amen. Learned this only recently, like this past year or so. And it’s beautiful. Literally the sound of you breathing, is the name of God. Amazing. Thank you for posting. Amazing! Amazing God our Father in Heaven. ❤️
Gen.2: 7 Then the Lord God formed a man[c] from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.
God does it again ! John20:22 And having said this, He breathed on them and He says to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit.
Welcome. 1Cor.2:9 New International Version
However, as it is written: “What no eye has seen, what no ear has heard, and what no human mind has conceived” — the things God has prepared for those who love him—
Rev. 20:6 Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.
that's what many say...but they haven't studied enough.
there are Many accounts of Jesus living in the east, studying with the people; a big picture to All of this. remember President Trump and Q have good things to say about India.
link below is a book by ECP.
it was her prayer General Flynn was harassed for.
The Lost Years of Jesus: Documentary Evidence of Jesus' 17-Year Journey to the East https://a.co/d/cGIqsDJ
want to quickly add before I forget, since there's a 10/20 in this^
when you visit the George Washington Masonic National Memorial in Alexandria...they have the clock that was by George Washington's bedside when he died/last breath. They cut the mechanism...it was 10:20, so the clock is Always at that time.
What I read is that there was some intermittence where the priests went into a secluded place, I don’t recall where, perhaps the Holy of Holies?, and learned to say The Name correctly.
I was taught this pronunciation quite some years back.
One note, W did not exist in English until around 1300, prior to that it was literally a double-u, or uu. Meanwhile, Vav in Hebrew is allegedly actually a Waw.
Long story short, nobody knows the proper pronunciation, or if they do, they aren’t saying it. The Jews don’t say it out of respect to not say it incorrectly, unless they don't accept that and do say it. Two rabbis = 5 opinions, right? It seems like they also don’t write “God” (“G_d”) because “God” is not Father’s name, and iirc there are instructions to not have the names of other gods on your lips, and Gad/Gahd was a foreign diety from somewhence.
One thing I think is certain, JEHoVAH is wrong, and the J in HalleluJAH is absurd.
Strong’s is fren. I do like the story in the OP, and whether it’s correct or not, it seems to be heading in a better direction than where we have been.
For anyone interested, there’s a lot that’s hidden in the Bible that English doesn’t show… my personal favorite version is the ISR, with a trilingual and Strong’s and lots of Rose compendiums as backup (none of which I study enough, which is a shame because new things show up every time I do), but to each their own.
"What I read is that there was some intermittence where the priests went into a secluded place, I don’t recall where, perhaps the Holy of Holies?, and learned to say The Name correctly."
I don't believe it was the Holy of Holies. If I'm not mistaken, only the high priest could enter the Holy of Holies and only one day of the year, at that.
Yes, I’m not sure it was done then or not. Perhaps more likely not. Didn’t look this one up, and have only heard about it once, so.. ymmv on that particular one, but I tried to phrase it to indicate that I’m not confident it’s 100% accurate.
You’re right about the latter note (Yom Kippur), so it probably didn’t happen there (I still haven’t looked it up - mostly on account of most results being “Why The Name isn’t spoken”).
Today we have no Temple service, so instead we pray. With our prayers we attempt to replicate, in spiritual terms, the Holy Temple service, and hopefully thus to elicit the same result, the same atonement, which was effected by the Temple service of yore.
Every Jewish person is a potential temple for G‑d, and every individual is the serving high priest in his or her personal temple. The goal of the Yom Kippur prayer service is to access the Holy of Holies of this temple.
Don’t tell anyone, but that sounds awfully close to being Christian beliefs! What would be the gap between the two sets on this, in each direction?
יָהּ - Yah (yod heh) - h3050 - Strong’s has this listed as “the LORD”, except really, it’s the affectionate shortened version of Ha’Shem. I write the Y capitalised, as it is The Name, but often when translators use Y, which isn’t often, they’ll leave it lowercase as it’s in the middle of a word, in accordance with English grammar rules.
I don’t know why they’ve removed Father’s Name from His own book, but I don’t think it’s a good thing. If you check Hebrew versions of the Bible (Old Testament only, of course), it’s there hundreds of times. In English versions, it shows up .. less than 4 in most translations. It’s not right, in my opinion.
well written, interesting insights of God’s name and post u/Tetartos_Ippeas
Question: if God is at a higher dimension and reaches people at different levels, could both the breathing by newborns be God’s name
and as you (AE) share, could “waw—> “uu” be part of the pronunciation as people grow up and mature seek Him? different levels?
after General Josephus surrendered to the Roman Army, he included in his 4th book that the letters were four vowels: “ A mitre also of fine linen encompassed his head, which was tied by a blue ribbon, about which there was another golden crown, in which was engraven the sacred name [of God]: it consists of four vowels.”
I’m not sure what Josephus would have been referring to with “vowels”. Masoretic vowels came much later than the temple period.
In paleo Hebrew, though, the characters Yod Heh and Vav were represented by a Hand (Yod), a Door, or Behold (Heh - the Lentel at Passover by the way ה ), and a Nail (Vav).
Behold Hand, Behold Nail. I Am That I Am. Isaiah 53. This is the name that was told to Mosheh “Moses” at the burning bush.
From there, acrostics are where you take the first letter of each word, yes? On the cross was written in three languages, Yahusha, King of the Jews. Hebrew, Greek, and Latin.
Yes, combining the Gospel accounts the INRI placard of Pilate would've been translated "This is Jesus of Nazareth, the King of the Jews", which with copula in Hebrew is I believe "Yehoshua HaNozhri WeMelekh HaYehudim". This is consistent with the canonical and historical texts but the acrostic is not certain.
I found that Wars 5.5.7, translated "vowels", was as I thought a bit sketchy in that translation: it's literally elementa vocalia, vocalic elements. I don't know whether vocalia is more associated with vocalization of any sound or with vowel sounds specifically; it seems to me the former would be more frequent. The letters themselves were all regarded as what we'd call consonants, and the Yiddish convention of treating some as true vowels was not present; but these three letters in particular were each so connected to true vowels that the name could be regarded as pure throat sounds rather than use of nose, lips, teeth, or palate. The video can be said to be accurate with the proviso that it's the whispered name rather than the spoken name for which the larynx would vibrate as well.
IMHO when Pat Sajak pronounces his cohost's name as "Vanna Hwite", that's the strong H sound you need twice in "Yahweh". Further, the dodge that "nobody knows" is starting to fail and I much prefer the testimony "any native-Hebrew 5-year-old can pronounce Yahweh rightly without the vowel points", for the following reason. The verb "banah" means "build" and the name "Yabneh" is the form meaning "building". The verb "hawah" means "exist" and the name "YHWH" means "existing"; so the paradigm for pronouncing it "Yahweh" is exact in this case, and all in Strong's too. Other close paradigms exist but are mostly inexact.
Note that "Yahweh" is not the Jewish way to say "God" (which would be "El" and "Elohim"); it's the Jewish way to say "The Existing" or more fully "The Self-Existent One". We could say it's the Jewish way to say "I AM" in all caps as well, but "I AM" is not an exact translation (it is actually his alternate name, Ehyeh, given to Moses at the same time as Yahweh). "HaShem" is the Jewish way to say the term "The Name" as a placeholder for the name, but it doesn't work if translated because then literally you'd be saying things like "O The Name please help us" and I'm a bit down on that convention literally. But since everyone using it knows that "HaShem" has gone beyond its literal meaning and has become a name of its own, there's no confusion about the meaning, it's just something a literalist objects to when the reason for doing it in the first place is sus.
I'm not able to endorse "Yahshua" because there are over 40 names in Strong's in which the form "Yah" is always combined as "Yeho-" by the same kind of consistent vocalization process by which we never think it odd when saying sing, sang, sung.
thanks SwampRangers for bringing clarification to the words of Josephus . A good reminder too when God shared His name with Moses as Ehyeh and then YHWH.
I’m not sure how widely known that is outside of more Hebraic messianic movements. English oriented tends to ignore the Hebrew almost entirely. Even within those movements it’s not something everybody knows.
Wait till Jewish people notice that they might have missed something because of bad Christian doctrine and a lack of humility. 😉
I genuinely can’t believe that there are Yeshivas that don’t ever look at the Tanakh (Torah + Prophets + Writings - “Old Testament”)) because “our sages have unpacked everything there is to know about the scriptures”
I couldn’t believe it when I read that…
“The messiah will show up before the third one gets destroyed though!” I guess…?
Is petitioning God a proper prayer? Is meditation prayer?
Why did tradition say that God's name shouldn't be pronounced?
What does ineffable mean? The tetragrammaton is a 'spell', using Gematria to decypher the coding to the letters. Nearly all words/languages were created this way.
This leads to a 'high place' where one is tempted to control by the knowledge it brings.
Nice idea, but don't take this as authoritative or definitive. Hebrew was resurrected fairly recently and they acknowledge not knowing original pronunciations of words, or knowing originally intended vowel sounds between consonants of words. There seems to be some agreement the "w" letter was pronounced like a "v." There is also a possibility YHVH was an acronym meaning something else, or maybe sometmes contained an esoteric letter in the middle, particularly "shin," the "sh" sound. It is from all these possibilities we end up with Yaweh, Yaheshua, Jehova, etc.
This is not to say the idea of it being the sound of breathing is not possible either. The Hindus say the sound of breathing sacred word is "sam hah."
Amen, amen, amen! Say OP, did you break out yet fren? Ahhh... stupid me typed before scrolling....! Amen again! Congratulations on your freedom sir. Tips hat & alus Very happy for you and your loved ones that you have escaped and are back in your comfy abode!
Are you going to worship God the way God designed you to or are you going to pretend to be Jewish (which, by the way, isn't any closer to God right now) to get extra brownie points that don't actually exist?
Pretending to worship "YHWH" instead of "God" is generally self-gratifying which is blasphemous.
It’s the recognition of the creator. The one true living God. With literally breath itself. Every soul knows God, if it’s breathing. If they recognize that truth is what the mission is all about. We all were held in the hand of God, as He breathed life into our lungs. Most precious to Him. God has many names. Jesus. Lord. Friend. Master. Love. King of kings. Many names. And the very sound of someone breathing is of God. People should know this. Isn’t about Jews and Gentiles. It’s about the presence of the Father, everywhere. Even in those who fight against Him.
Many verses friend. Jesus is God in flesh. And yes Jesus is the Son of God, and the Son of man.
John 1-1/14
Hebrews 1:8
John 10:30
John 8:58
There is more in John, we’re Thomas speaks of this. And in Colossians even. If you look at God the Father and Jesus with limits, through the eyes of man, it sometimes hard to understand. Jesus was human, as He was divine.
Yea I see what you’re saying. That’s probably my bad. Jesus isn’t referred to as the Father. Agreed. But God is referred to as many names. So is Jesus. When I mentioned God has many names. I did say God the Father. So yea I see what your saying now. Fixed.
John 10:30, though the way it’s stated in that comment is not something I would say I agree with. It’s admittedly not the simplest relationship to wrap one’s head around.
I’m not sure if we get to know precisely how all things are structured in a very explicit sense.
That said, I tend to think of all existence as being created within Father. Where Yahshua was The Word - the firstborn among creation, through whom all things were created (1 Colossians1:15).
Again, though, that’s just my best guess. I don’t think anyoneknows. A lot of these things confused even the apostles for a long time.
Quite frankly, I think there are much more important fish to fry than this one as well, and it often leads to far too much division when we can’t accurately explain or understand something that we may not even have been meant to. I.e. - I may guess at theories but you won’t see me defending any of this as “doctrine”.
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman who needed not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
Of course there's a way to understand but few are those who want to work for it. And yes, it is work. But God has provided everything one needs if you have the heart for it. Once you start to see the perfection, beauty, and rhythm, nothing in this life can compare. Not even 100 zero-delta q-posts or pay-per-view hangings of our enemies.
But this life has an ending; eternity does not.
Just take the talking points you've been fed and accepted and live your best life.
The fact that you're changing a comment about "God" to being about "God the Father" implies that your question is not wholly disinterested, because the assumption that "God" always means "God the Father" is recognized by many as invalid to insert upon someone else's comment that doesn't imply it.
Jesus is called a father in a couple places that don't impinge on God the Father, such as Is. 9:6 (I recall there being another direct one), and implied in Is. 8:18, 53:10, Mark 2:5, 5:34, Heb. 2:13, 1 John 2:29. Here is a resource on the ten best Scriptures showing that Jesus is God as much as the Father is, and here is a resource for antitrinitarians to consider, in an attempt to credit their concerns about the differences.
The Jewish way way to say God is Hashem - which means "The Name" or Adonai - which means "Lord", Jews are not allowed to pronounce the word. As a side, there were different regions with different names, as the other name for God is "El" and the Torah uses both.
Jew here-this is correct. We don't pronounce the Tetragrammaton as it is called as it is the name of G-d. Hashem, Adonai, or Elohim are the names that are used. We also write G-d when writing about our Creator in non-sacred documents, like this one. This is a really cool thread, though.
That is exactly right. Amen. Learned this only recently, like this past year or so. And it’s beautiful. Literally the sound of you breathing, is the name of God. Amazing. Thank you for posting. Amazing! Amazing God our Father in Heaven. ❤️
Hey fren, how are you doing?
Thanks for this post!
u/#lord u/#feelsgood
Grin. So very, very happy to hear from you. Now take it easy for just long enough!
Gen.2: 7 Then the Lord God formed a man[c] from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.
God does it again ! John20:22 And having said this, He breathed on them and He says to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit.
John 20:22And having said this, He breathed on them and He says to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit.
BORNED AGAIN! Our God is an Awesome God
Wow. I never made this connection with "born again." Now, I finally understand what it means. Thanks for enlightening me, fren.
Welcome. 1Cor.2:9 New International Version However, as it is written: “What no eye has seen, what no ear has heard, and what no human mind has conceived” — the things God has prepared for those who love him—
Rev. 20:6 Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.
great clip! and makes sense- Breath = Life 💥
think this is why it's also helpful to learn about eastern religions, they focus on breathing & being still to actually 'know' God.
like Q said; 'the choice to know'✨
They are breathing not to know the Creator God but to open themselves up to the lesser “gods”.
that's what many say...but they haven't studied enough.
there are Many accounts of Jesus living in the east, studying with the people; a big picture to All of this. remember President Trump and Q have good things to say about India.
link below is a book by ECP.
it was her prayer General Flynn was harassed for.
The Lost Years of Jesus: Documentary Evidence of Jesus' 17-Year Journey to the East https://a.co/d/cGIqsDJ
you're welcome! so happy to have people to chat with about it, been waiting a long time;)
want to quickly add before I forget, since there's a 10/20 in this^
when you visit the George Washington Masonic National Memorial in Alexandria...they have the clock that was by George Washington's bedside when he died/last breath. They cut the mechanism...it was 10:20, so the clock is Always at that time.
thanks! always fun to find patterns;) and one more; it's the 22nd/you have a 22 above; George Washington's birthday- February 22, 1732🇺🇸
I'm blown away. That is so awesome. God never ceases to amaze me.
Same here. My life seems to be so much better the more I acknowledge his presence in it.
I'm crying now that's so beautiful.
I thought all the ancient Hebrew words were only made up of consonants https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/3087993/jewish/Why-No-Vowels-in-the-Torah.htm
That's what I said kek. The words didn't include vowels. The vowels were passed down orally
What I read is that there was some intermittence where the priests went into a secluded place, I don’t recall where, perhaps the Holy of Holies?, and learned to say The Name correctly.
I was taught this pronunciation quite some years back.
One note, W did not exist in English until around 1300, prior to that it was literally a double-u, or uu. Meanwhile, Vav in Hebrew is allegedly actually a Waw.
Long story short, nobody knows the proper pronunciation, or if they do, they aren’t saying it. The Jews don’t say it out of respect to not say it incorrectly, unless they don't accept that and do say it. Two rabbis = 5 opinions, right? It seems like they also don’t write “God” (“G_d”) because “God” is not Father’s name, and iirc there are instructions to not have the names of other gods on your lips, and Gad/Gahd was a foreign diety from somewhence.
One thing I think is certain, JEHoVAH is wrong, and the J in HalleluJAH is absurd.
Strong’s is fren. I do like the story in the OP, and whether it’s correct or not, it seems to be heading in a better direction than where we have been.
For anyone interested, there’s a lot that’s hidden in the Bible that English doesn’t show… my personal favorite version is the ISR, with a trilingual and Strong’s and lots of Rose compendiums as backup (none of which I study enough, which is a shame because new things show up every time I do), but to each their own.
Props to u/Tetartos_Ippeas for the thread!
Thanks! This is a topic I’ve studied a bit. 😁
"What I read is that there was some intermittence where the priests went into a secluded place, I don’t recall where, perhaps the Holy of Holies?, and learned to say The Name correctly."
I don't believe it was the Holy of Holies. If I'm not mistaken, only the high priest could enter the Holy of Holies and only one day of the year, at that.
Yes, I’m not sure it was done then or not. Perhaps more likely not. Didn’t look this one up, and have only heard about it once, so.. ymmv on that particular one, but I tried to phrase it to indicate that I’m not confident it’s 100% accurate.
You’re right about the latter note (Yom Kippur), so it probably didn’t happen there (I still haven’t looked it up - mostly on account of most results being “Why The Name isn’t spoken”).
Here’s something funny…
https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/571614/jewish/Enter-the-Holy-of-Holies.htm
Don’t tell anyone, but that sounds awfully close to being Christian beliefs! What would be the gap between the two sets on this, in each direction?
I was thinking the same thing.
Halleluia is the alternate spelling which I prefer.
https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/halleluia
To the source of this thread, “Hallelujah/Halleluiah/HalleluY/yah” comes from
הָלַל - hālal (heh lamed lamed) -h1984 - “Praise ye”
יָהּ - Yah (yod heh) - h3050 - Strong’s has this listed as “the LORD”, except really, it’s the affectionate shortened version of Ha’Shem. I write the Y capitalised, as it is The Name, but often when translators use Y, which isn’t often, they’ll leave it lowercase as it’s in the middle of a word, in accordance with English grammar rules.
I don’t know why they’ve removed Father’s Name from His own book, but I don’t think it’s a good thing. If you check Hebrew versions of the Bible (Old Testament only, of course), it’s there hundreds of times. In English versions, it shows up .. less than 4 in most translations. It’s not right, in my opinion.
well written, interesting insights of God’s name and post u/Tetartos_Ippeas
Question: if God is at a higher dimension and reaches people at different levels, could both the breathing by newborns be God’s name
and as you (AE) share, could “waw—> “uu” be part of the pronunciation as people grow up and mature seek Him? different levels?
after General Josephus surrendered to the Roman Army, he included in his 4th book that the letters were four vowels: “ A mitre also of fine linen encompassed his head, which was tied by a blue ribbon, about which there was another golden crown, in which was engraven the sacred name [of God]: it consists of four vowels.”
about 3/4 down this page https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0148%3Abook%3D5%3Awhiston+chapter%3D5%3Awhiston+section%3D7
The priestly crown looks to have been
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fyrm.org%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2017%2F01%2Ftzitz-gallery.jpg
(“Qodesh” + Tetragrammaton. Qodesh being “Holy”)
I’m not sure what Josephus would have been referring to with “vowels”. Masoretic vowels came much later than the temple period.
In paleo Hebrew, though, the characters Yod Heh and Vav were represented by a Hand (Yod), a Door, or Behold (Heh - the Lentel at Passover by the way ה ), and a Nail (Vav).
Behold Hand, Behold Nail. I Am That I Am. Isaiah 53. This is the name that was told to Mosheh “Moses” at the burning bush.
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fs-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com%2Foriginals%2F52%2F14%2Fd1%2F5214d1040bb450376cd6be0fa65a55cb.jpg
From there, acrostics are where you take the first letter of each word, yes? On the cross was written in three languages, Yahusha, King of the Jews. Hebrew, Greek, and Latin.
In Hebrew, the acrostic spelled out
י ח ו ח
Y H W H.
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.etsystatic.com%2F13886496%2Fr%2Fil%2F4659af%2F3771056342%2Fil_fullxfull.3771056342_9dl8.jpg
Then the Pharisees told the Romans to take that down, they couldn’t write that!
The reply came, “I have written what I have written.” John 19:22.
u/Tetartos_Ippeas u/winn u/Slechta5614 u/joys1daughter
Yes, combining the Gospel accounts the INRI placard of Pilate would've been translated "This is Jesus of Nazareth, the King of the Jews", which with copula in Hebrew is I believe "Yehoshua HaNozhri WeMelekh HaYehudim". This is consistent with the canonical and historical texts but the acrostic is not certain.
I found that Wars 5.5.7, translated "vowels", was as I thought a bit sketchy in that translation: it's literally elementa vocalia, vocalic elements. I don't know whether vocalia is more associated with vocalization of any sound or with vowel sounds specifically; it seems to me the former would be more frequent. The letters themselves were all regarded as what we'd call consonants, and the Yiddish convention of treating some as true vowels was not present; but these three letters in particular were each so connected to true vowels that the name could be regarded as pure throat sounds rather than use of nose, lips, teeth, or palate. The video can be said to be accurate with the proviso that it's the whispered name rather than the spoken name for which the larynx would vibrate as well.
IMHO when Pat Sajak pronounces his cohost's name as "Vanna Hwite", that's the strong H sound you need twice in "Yahweh". Further, the dodge that "nobody knows" is starting to fail and I much prefer the testimony "any native-Hebrew 5-year-old can pronounce Yahweh rightly without the vowel points", for the following reason. The verb "banah" means "build" and the name "Yabneh" is the form meaning "building". The verb "hawah" means "exist" and the name "YHWH" means "existing"; so the paradigm for pronouncing it "Yahweh" is exact in this case, and all in Strong's too. Other close paradigms exist but are mostly inexact.
Note that "Yahweh" is not the Jewish way to say "God" (which would be "El" and "Elohim"); it's the Jewish way to say "The Existing" or more fully "The Self-Existent One". We could say it's the Jewish way to say "I AM" in all caps as well, but "I AM" is not an exact translation (it is actually his alternate name, Ehyeh, given to Moses at the same time as Yahweh). "HaShem" is the Jewish way to say the term "The Name" as a placeholder for the name, but it doesn't work if translated because then literally you'd be saying things like "O The Name please help us" and I'm a bit down on that convention literally. But since everyone using it knows that "HaShem" has gone beyond its literal meaning and has become a name of its own, there's no confusion about the meaning, it's just something a literalist objects to when the reason for doing it in the first place is sus.
I'm not able to endorse "Yahshua" because there are over 40 names in Strong's in which the form "Yah" is always combined as "Yeho-" by the same kind of consistent vocalization process by which we never think it odd when saying sing, sang, sung.
u/Malachi3vs16 u/Slechta5614 u/Tetartos_Ippeas (thanks for the UHF)
thanks SwampRangers for bringing clarification to the words of Josephus . A good reminder too when God shared His name with Moses as Ehyeh and then YHWH.
continued recovery and rest wishes fren
wow, had not seen this before, will study this more!
I’m not sure how widely known that is outside of more Hebraic messianic movements. English oriented tends to ignore the Hebrew almost entirely. Even within those movements it’s not something everybody knows.
Wait till Jewish people notice that they might have missed something because of bad Christian doctrine and a lack of humility. 😉
I genuinely can’t believe that there are Yeshivas that don’t ever look at the Tanakh (Torah + Prophets + Writings - “Old Testament”)) because “our sages have unpacked everything there is to know about the scriptures”
I couldn’t believe it when I read that…
“The messiah will show up before the third one gets destroyed though!” I guess…?
Kek, no worries fren, enjoy the happy pills :p
I hope you're not 🍻 on those meds! *bad frog
Aum- men.
Is petitioning God a proper prayer? Is meditation prayer?
Why did tradition say that God's name shouldn't be pronounced?
What does ineffable mean? The tetragrammaton is a 'spell', using Gematria to decypher the coding to the letters. Nearly all words/languages were created this way.
This leads to a 'high place' where one is tempted to control by the knowledge it brings.
A high place: https://kupdf.net/download/jesus-christ-sun-of-god-ancient-cosmology-and-early-christian-symbolism-by-david-r-fideler-ocr_58a100e36454a7335db1eb87_pdf
Beautiful, glorious.
Thank you! In Him, we live and move and have our bring! 💕💕💕💕
Jesus' original name in Hebrew "yeshua" is similar but think of it more as a sigh of relief
Next task: How to pronounce AITCH
Hint: It's not (H)AITCH 👻
Nice idea, but don't take this as authoritative or definitive. Hebrew was resurrected fairly recently and they acknowledge not knowing original pronunciations of words, or knowing originally intended vowel sounds between consonants of words. There seems to be some agreement the "w" letter was pronounced like a "v." There is also a possibility YHVH was an acronym meaning something else, or maybe sometmes contained an esoteric letter in the middle, particularly "shin," the "sh" sound. It is from all these possibilities we end up with Yaweh, Yaheshua, Jehova, etc.
This is not to say the idea of it being the sound of breathing is not possible either. The Hindus say the sound of breathing sacred word is "sam hah."
Amazing! to quote Jesse Lee Peterson.
Amen, amen, amen! Say OP, did you break out yet fren? Ahhh... stupid me typed before scrolling....! Amen again! Congratulations on your freedom sir. Tips hat & alus Very happy for you and your loved ones that you have escaped and are back in your comfy abode!
So who's Waaaah!
Oh my. Like I Am.
Cool I guess but I’ll still say God and Jesus and the Holy Spirit.
Thank you so much and YHWH bless you.
The breath of life.
It's a reminder of His presence (omnipresence). I give praise whenever I remember this.
"YHWH" is the Jewish way to say God.
"God" is the English way to say God.
Are you going to worship God the way God designed you to or are you going to pretend to be Jewish (which, by the way, isn't any closer to God right now) to get extra brownie points that don't actually exist?
Pretending to worship "YHWH" instead of "God" is generally self-gratifying which is blasphemous.
It’s the recognition of the creator. The one true living God. With literally breath itself. Every soul knows God, if it’s breathing. If they recognize that truth is what the mission is all about. We all were held in the hand of God, as He breathed life into our lungs. Most precious to Him. God has many names. Jesus. Lord. Friend. Master. Love. King of kings. Many names. And the very sound of someone breathing is of God. People should know this. Isn’t about Jews and Gentiles. It’s about the presence of the Father, everywhere. Even in those who fight against Him.
Exactly. The whole SoD (Speak English or Die) notion of observing the world is a sign of fear.
Chapter and verse and what bible where God the Father is called Jesus? Jesus is the Son of God.
Many verses friend. Jesus is God in flesh. And yes Jesus is the Son of God, and the Son of man.
John 1-1/14 Hebrews 1:8 John 10:30 John 8:58
There is more in John, we’re Thomas speaks of this. And in Colossians even. If you look at God the Father and Jesus with limits, through the eyes of man, it sometimes hard to understand. Jesus was human, as He was divine.
There is not a single verse where God's name is Jesus or says Jesus the Father. Period.
Yea I see what you’re saying. That’s probably my bad. Jesus isn’t referred to as the Father. Agreed. But God is referred to as many names. So is Jesus. When I mentioned God has many names. I did say God the Father. So yea I see what your saying now. Fixed.
John 10:30, though the way it’s stated in that comment is not something I would say I agree with. It’s admittedly not the simplest relationship to wrap one’s head around.
So using that logic, In a marriage ceremony "And the two shall become one" means what?
It means moving together in harmony and purpose. Being like-minded.
I’m not sure if we get to know precisely how all things are structured in a very explicit sense.
That said, I tend to think of all existence as being created within Father. Where Yahshua was The Word - the firstborn among creation, through whom all things were created (1 Colossians1:15).
Again, though, that’s just my best guess. I don’t think anyone knows. A lot of these things confused even the apostles for a long time.
Quite frankly, I think there are much more important fish to fry than this one as well, and it often leads to far too much division when we can’t accurately explain or understand something that we may not even have been meant to. I.e. - I may guess at theories but you won’t see me defending any of this as “doctrine”.
2 Tim 2:15
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman who needed not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
Of course there's a way to understand but few are those who want to work for it. And yes, it is work. But God has provided everything one needs if you have the heart for it. Once you start to see the perfection, beauty, and rhythm, nothing in this life can compare. Not even 100 zero-delta q-posts or pay-per-view hangings of our enemies.
But this life has an ending; eternity does not.
Just take the talking points you've been fed and accepted and live your best life.
The fact that you're changing a comment about "God" to being about "God the Father" implies that your question is not wholly disinterested, because the assumption that "God" always means "God the Father" is recognized by many as invalid to insert upon someone else's comment that doesn't imply it.
Jesus is called a father in a couple places that don't impinge on God the Father, such as Is. 9:6 (I recall there being another direct one), and implied in Is. 8:18, 53:10, Mark 2:5, 5:34, Heb. 2:13, 1 John 2:29. Here is a resource on the ten best Scriptures showing that Jesus is God as much as the Father is, and here is a resource for antitrinitarians to consider, in an attempt to credit their concerns about the differences.
The Jewish way way to say God is Hashem - which means "The Name" or Adonai - which means "Lord", Jews are not allowed to pronounce the word. As a side, there were different regions with different names, as the other name for God is "El" and the Torah uses both.
Jew here-this is correct. We don't pronounce the Tetragrammaton as it is called as it is the name of G-d. Hashem, Adonai, or Elohim are the names that are used. We also write G-d when writing about our Creator in non-sacred documents, like this one. This is a really cool thread, though.
Thank you for spreading truth fren.
Numbers 6:24-26