So yesterday (Saturday), here in east Tennessee, I went to a small one-man business that deals mostly with music, instrument repairs, and used instruments. As a musician I play several different instruments, and this guy is an expert on one particular instrument, which will be nameless for the purposes of this post. His shop is in a different town, about a 20 minute drive from where I live.
As context, I am a rather hard-right, conservative person, and keep most of my more extreme views concealed (as was the .45 carry piece I had on me at the time), so I don't air my politics in public... I'm just tired of the futile debates with the Left, who are essentially morons with no critical thinking skills.
After discussing some technical aspects of this instrument, the chat wandered to cost of materials related to musical instruments... exotic woods, strings, labor, which instruments are better, German, French, or (more lately) Chinese.
Then the subject turned to the wild fluctuations of silver and gold (sometimes used in ornamentation on instruments).
Without missing a beat, the dude said, "Oh that's just so Trump can get more money."
.... WHUT?! I was rather taken aback by such a stupid statement that I asked him to repeat it. And he did. The man is brilliant when it comes to instrument repair and a knowledge base about instruments that I don't have.
But really? The rising price of silver and gold is... BECAUSE TRUMP WANTS MORE MONEY?! I just let it drop, no amount of reason or knowledge of the precious metals market, or common sense in general, would have gotten through to him.
Are all TDS sufferers this blind to reality?
Side note, leaving that other town I passed a demonstration on a sidewalk that I had to pass, about 100 people or so, with "NO KINGS" signs and other examples of TDS. They waved at me as I drove by, but I just lifted my middle finger salute to them and drove on.
So all in all, I had a full-on display of TDS yesterday.
Sounds about right. I agree, similar to talking to a tree, these people will never be convinced, and at this point its not my job. Some of the smartest people i know get their news (entertainment) from msnbc or fox news and they leave it at that. There is a trust-breakdown generation to generation as it relates to media. The way they see it, their tv shows don't need a fact-check.
I also saw a 2nd hand picture of my brother in law at one of those no kings protests here locally. His sign was a photo of DJT with devil horns. Theres no convincing this man, but i had to pose a question to him anyway..."I dont see the equivalency between trump an a king, hes shrinking the size and scope of the fed gov, hes sending court decisions back to the states, cutting income and corporate taxes.." his reply was "but hes trampling on our constitutional rights, ya know? I couldnt help it. i simply said "which ones?" it ended there.
We are related!! We have the same brother in law!! kek
I'm embarrassed for him often.
For me, it's one of my brothers :)
Had a similar experience with a 65+ guy at a lunch counter over the Summer. He Started talking about how bad a President Trump was. I finally asked him what did he like better about Biden: the hyper inflation, leaving $80 billion of military equipment for the Taliban or the 20 million illegals he let in that were destroying the country.?
He did not like that at all. He started calling me old man, even though we were about the same in age and said “I ought to slap you.” I told him if he did, I would be the last thing he slapped in his life.” His friend told him to cool it.
I finished my lunch and left. Never went back to the place again.
In my work I deal with some of the most educated people on the planet. Many are a pile of rocks when discussing normal stuff. They are focused on their field of study and don’t have the drive/need to understand anything else. Good job not calling the instrument guy a retard.
Yup that's my experience with PhDs. They are autistically pinpoint ultra educated in ONE tiny field, but absolute fucking morons on everything else.
It's having a extremely sharp peak on a chart, in just 1% of the chart. With everything else low level knowledge.
PhDs are some of the dumbest "smart people" in the world. They only know their niche little Field, and don't have time to learn anything outside of their specific field
That's also why they tend to stay in academia. They usually know NOTHING else about anything and rely on their safe space to affirm their knowledge and opinions.
PhD = "piled higher and deeper"
And even in their niche they know only what the globalist cabal wants them to know.. Academics are some of the most brainwashed people out there. Their world view is fed to them through the filter of 'education'.
This subversion has worked it's way downward into grade schools. We need a reset of what education means, and more life skills taught instead of gender and grievance studies.
So a couple of Idiot Savants then?
Yeah well I may need his luthier services down the road, so I just let it slide. Not a hill I'm gonna die on.
Good call.
Find a mechanic that also plays. I bought a cheap, new bass guitar and tried to show it off to my "older" friend. Later in the convo, he broke out a large whetstone and a fret file. Handing them to me, he said "You're a mechanic, make it right". 6 months later I brought them back now knowing how dynamic new wood can be.
"They are focused on their field of study and don’t have the drive/need to understand anything else."
Can confirm. I was employed by A Major University (tm) for 25 years.
Most frogs on here have most probably had the same thing to deal with, its very irritating to say the least but patience is a virtue. One of the most difficult virtues to employ.
You mean indoctrinated people.
my FIL says the stock market is going up just so Trump can get rich
TDS is very real, Trump very famously doesn't really invest in the stock market 😆 🤣
Suggest you show him nancy pelosi's stock dealings from the last 10 years...
Not aunt nan, she's an absolute saint!
Hoo boy.
These people are insufferable. Anything good is bad, until Trump is gone, then it will be "oh thank Allah for this democrat, if we didn't have zir, inflation would be worse, etc."
Funny that it is the Pelosi that got rich. DJT was the only person I have ever heard get all of the putting everything in a blind trust crap.
They believe that his motivations are the same as their own.
My friend just laughs heartily at these people. It makes them feel horrible 😅 then perhaps slam down one probing question that proves they know nothing. Laugh some more. Works like a charm.
I think the TDSers really don’t care about truth. They’ve been so indoctrinated and deceived. They do not know, nor care to know, the difference between truth and lies. They don’t know the difference between right and wrong. They say it’s too complicated, so they grab on to whatever is the closest fit to their compromised reality. The BS media is a perfect trap for them. I think they know it, and they are ok with it (they stay ignorant because they feel it’s an easier life).
It’s ironic how the easier life is the simple truth of loving God and putting Him first in our lives.
. I'm just tired of the futile debates with the Left, who are essentially morons with no critical thinking skills. THIS. This weekend I told my Step brother what was going on in the World. Then he started on his Woke opinion. I said, I don't want to hear this. He said, I listened to your opinion. I said my opinion is an accurate observation of what is going on. Your opinion is a delusional observation that ignores reality.
Try having some fun with it. Be prepared to go along with the retardation and slowly bring it all back to how the democrats ruin everything by using the old "both sides suck ". I call it" fun with retards"
At first they repeat what they hear and it sets their world view. Then they repeat what they say and that cements their view. No changing it because it has become their identity. It takes a freight train to change their minds. Most of the time it’s just shear laziness. They don’t want to think their government could lie to them and they could be so gullible as to be taken in by the lies…my family of good men and women fall into that category.
The left have been fed the class warfare theme, and Bernie brought it to a head. President Trump is an easy target because of this. The average Democrat cannot see what elitism is clearly. they assume if you are wealthy, you are that way because of screwing over workers. They do not see it when a so called "progressive" company is doing the same thing. If an elitist dresses himself up with words like diversity and equality, environment, tolerance, etc, suddenly his wealth is well earned, and, therefore, a good thing, and therefore, is not an elitist anymore. It is a culture war and a language war, and facts be damned. The people I know who call themselves progressive and liberal are the most elitist people I know. Their clothing is expensive, they are status minded, and look down on the person who is not wearing certain clothes, does not read certain books, or listen to NPR. Not one of them can name a working class person as their friend, the girl working at the Dollar General is not on their guest list, but a trust fund baby who decides to open a cheese factory, on government grants, mind you, is a sought after guest at their bbq. Never mind that no one who works and lives around here can't afford their award winning cheese. Never mind the guy who trucked for Cabot Cheese worked till his pension was ready at retirement. The same liberal who opened up their property as a Air BnB place, is weeping over the homeless and swearing at landlords who do not want to rent their places to welfare recipients. Driving Volvos with Bernie stickers on them. Their hypocrisy should be challenged with these facts. Compassion for poor people is a good thing, it is said in the Bible. But also Jesus had a lot to say about hypocrisy, about virtue signaling. That is what they do, virtue signal. It is all due to social engineering, which began with the early Gallup polls. The pearl clutching should be taken with a grain of salt, it is shallow. I forgive them because they really are sheep. Now the President is not everyones cup of tea, and I get that. But he is far from an elitist, always has been. .
It is maddening that they don't/can't/won't see the hypocrisy in themselves.
It's a shame. A lot of times the symptoms of TDS are not readily apparent. Sounds like you brushed it off as the mental defect it is and carried on about your day. Good on you. It makes it easier when the person with TDS is not overtly retarded as was the case with the instrument dude.
The mockingbird media have done their job well. I hope someday all the brainwashing can be undone.
It may happen, but only a full generation after the MSM dies a glorious death.
They are firmly convinced that they are thinking for themselves, all the while dutifully repeating what they are told to think.
It's evil genius. 🥸
I've come to realize there is no longer any point in arguing with them. TDS is real.
Hear Hear!!!
But it is fun triggering them, some all it takes is to say Trump, then let them run down and just say Trump again.
Does Obamacare cover TDS?😃😃
Ironically it doesn't.
Welcome to PA.
Welcome to PA cities, friend. Once you get out into the rural areas -- which are most of the state -- things are very different.
I did some work in the past in Beaver County. Can 100% confirm. They had Trump signs everywhere.
I am in suburbs but the state is ruled by DEMONrats.
They make the laws no matter where you live.
Have you seen your gas prices here?
Lefty TDS is one thing,it's worse in Republicans sometimes. Some of them secretly hate the rich i guess,and Trump brings that out.
Was it a banjo?
Fiddle.
The left: "Anything I don't like is TRUMP'S FAULT!"
The left: (Sticks fork in own eye)
This is Trump's fault!!!
These everyday people aren't scared of Trump. They hate him, but they're not afraid of him. That's because he follows the law and can be trusted to do so. They know he's not actually going to hurt them.
They actually ARE terrified of the illegals, criminals, muslims, and organized crime rings that control their cities and states. Those groups do NOT respect any laws and do whatever they want.
So, these people literally kowtow and grovel and sing to and soothe and praise and appease these groups any way they can in order to feel safe, and NEVER EVER challenge them on anything.
They want us to do the same. They freak out hysterically when we don't. They know that resistance angers the criminals and then everybody gets punished.
That's why your leftist relatives refuse to talk to you or be seen with you: Fear of guilt and punishment by association.
That's why you can't reason with them: Because you just can't reason with fear.
all of this happened during the COVID lockdowns, too, and for the same reasons.
Yup..
Dealing with a customer the other day that just shouted off "everything that we get from Trump is lies". Or something like that sounding like the new Yorker or The Atlantic or something.. I just returned the conversation to the business we were conducting...
It is like they are looking for fellow loonies.
The outsourcing of mental services has gone too far. One wonders how it can be reconnected to home base again.
At least he didn't wear a mask.
I think the N95 masks may be harder to find these days. I still see a handful of morons wearing them in stores every once in a while, but the masks are no longer white. They are usually a lovely shade of gray. It makes me wonder how long before they die of the plague or something from the massive amount of germs in their masks.
Everyday when the subject of money and prices come up I had to hear the TDS people slipped in every chance they got. So yeah, a very typical day on the East Coast. I don’t bother anymore and just smiled because there is no cure for retardedness.
Lobotomies might work. They used to make people even more retarded, but often also took away their ability to speak.
I work in education they are ALL indoctrinated 🤡 Like you said, zero critical thinking.
It's aggravating man... the cost of gold and silver hasn't risen. It the dollar that got weak. Monopoly money is all it is.
Nice observation. That makes alot of sense
Username checks out..
As tough as it is to interact with folks like this, here's a few key points.
#1 There's fluoride in about all our water systems, which has slowly been increased over the years ("country well water people", now you know why you see through BS before the "city folks"). It's in our toothpaste, tea brewed too long, and those "extra large for the same price" fountain drinks. And don't forget to tell the dentist "hell no" when they ask to add fluoride to your teeth cleaning. It's a friggin' neurotoxin that reduces IQ.
#2: Chemtrails contain aluminum. Aluminum in vaccines cause autism, and also reduce comprehension & thinnking. Aluminum and fluoride together compound item #1. The amount in our soil is through the roof right now compared to naturally occuring amounts.
#3: Nanotech. These pricks included nanotech not only in the vaccines ("graphene"), but also started spraying it when not enough people were taking it. Additionally, look up PCR swab Patent US 2013/0085472 A1 “Microneedle Nasal Delivery Device”. You'll figure out why they wanted to shove it so far up your nose (towards your brain).
#4: "Cholesterol Lowering Prescriptions". Realize your brain is 75%+ cholesterol by mass, more than any part of your body. Now let's see if you can figure out what "cholesterol lowering drugs" will do to your noggin'...
Talk to as many strangers as possible to overcome all of these. The seeds you plant today may sprout tomorrow, next week, or next month. Once the sunlight hits them, they both add one to our team and take one from theirs.
"Were We Go All, We Go One".
Glad you brought it up. A good friend of mine, Ret. BP, former Bishop, pillar to my hometown, and just a good man, was murdered on the morning after Christmas. The guy that shot him in the head moved in some 30+ years ago and built his home in the BOTTOM of some farmland. He THEN sold half, along with water rights. This land got worked and farmed causing drainage "problems" and damaging his home. He was mad and knew he couldn't do anything about it, so this pos of TDS descent resorted to VIOLENCE of the highest order. RUSSELL DOBKINS is now resting comfortably in the GCDC, and probably will for the rest of his life. He'll plea insanity and get old and die on the "good pills" in a "home" funded by the state... SMGDH!!!
How bad is TDS in eastern Tennessee? I was offered a job in Millington, it's tempting considering I can make 100k a year there and 200k gets a house that would cost 4 times as much here.
It's here,but mostly the larger cities. Millington should be fine.
The more I research the more appealing Knoxville or further east looks, do you recommend anything out that way? Property is cheap and rural but I need to be close enough to work somewhere. Ultimately I'd like to have a mostly self sufficient homestead where I only have to go wire a couple projects a year as needed for income.
Anywhere outside a 25 mile radius of downtown Knoxville should be fine, but do research. Ask me about any specific neighborhood and I can probably let you know how it is.
I appreciate it fren, I'll take you up on that if I get more serious about this idea. I don't think anyone would mind a conservative mountain man fleeing a blue state to make a red state more conservative. Your land use laws are so relaxed and climate for growing food is WAY better than Colorado.
McNairy Co or Mountain City seem like viable options.
A few places that come to mind not far from Knoxville are Maryville, Alcoa, Lenoir City, Seymour, and Clinton. Good luck.
I also know a married couple who are excellent real estate agents. I can put you in touch with them if you like.
What a fag. We don’t expect to come across that shit in east Tennessee.
Not normally, but they exist. Many around the UT campus and in arts.
TN is a beautiful state. Too bad libtards who have made their own states unlivable have decided that it looks like a nice place to relocate to.
The most disturbing element to me is the confidence with which these imbeciles express their opinion. As though their insane calculus must be simply obvious to everyone else.
Wish I had a solution guys, I really do. Been something I've spent many hours thinking about for many years. But the only solution I have is putting them all on an iceberg and giving it a shove to the north.
Indeed, their smug certitude about the most inane opinions is remarkable. It is one of the most maddening characteristics of the human species. It used to be, many years ago, that stupidity was a self-correcting problem. People did stupid things or held stupid opinions and nature had a way of eliminating them from the gene pool. They died in stupid ways, or failed to reproduce, or were banished from their villages.
For the past 50 years or so, however, our society has protected them, encouraged them, even favored them, gave them preferential treatment. Think DEI on a grand scale. And we have reaped the whirlwind for that.
Stupidity abounds, everywhere, in all our institutions and ways of life. From Somali fraudsters being allowed to steal billions of dollars to "The View" on TV, and a million other little ways, stupidity has become institutionalized.
Speaking of smug certitude, to see it in action just watch 10 minutes of "The View" or (while you still can) the Stephen Colbert Show. Ten minutes is about all I could take of either of those shows, but they are prime examples of "frequent wrong but never in doubt."
"For the past 50 years or so, however, our society has protected them, encouraged them, even favored them, gave them preferential treatment."
This is so spot on. And at least to my eyes, it has been a carefully constructed infrastructure that the Cabal has created to reinforce stupidity.
We see it across newspapers, cable news, pundits and pols: Emphasizing "your truth", alleged leftist "intellectuals" engaging in and approving of ad hominem attacks in lieu of proper critical arguments, labeling those who disagree with you (especially MAGA people) as "the other" in order for Leftists to not feel as though they don't have to defend their opinions against such utterly "deplorable" people.
It has been an insidious campaign to make feelings and ignorance somehow virtuous.
Ah, a kindred spirit.
It's really truly a full blown mental illness, I think it's a form of depression. When I was young I lived with someone suffering with depression and spent a lot of time talking with them about it. And from what I could observe at the time, it left a deep and abiding impression with me that there is no way to get through to a depressive person. Their minds are wired wrongly, they cannot process many things rationally, the moment they are confronted with logic that proves the cause of their depression is unreal - the manic depressive mind skips a track and instantly throws up something non sequitur.
It's the same manic track skipping behavior with full blown TDS sufferers. They have created a self-destructive fantasy world inside their minds and there is no way to convince them that the lies that prop up their TDS are lies. If you confront them with the lies they double down, if you press them and show them physical evidence of the lies, they blink, they skip a track and they regurgitate a different lie ad nauseam.
I learned in my early days, that when confronted with this self-destructive, self-curated insanity in manic depressives that no matter how much you love the person there is nothing you can do to help them. Because they don't want to be helped. The insanity is there identity and they are 100% invested in it.
It is dementia.
Well stated. I think I knew that on a subconscious, visceral level. That's why I chose not to engage in that nonsequitor turn in the conversation.
But ultimately I also knew that at some point in the future, I will need his services as a luthier, so... I just didn't bother engaging him.
I have this problem with relatives, I know they've lost their mind, but I love them still and they still love me. I find all the confirmation I need by the smart people - such as yourself - that I interact with on this amazing forum. I envy you though - I wish I had music, but that gift avoided me totally.
Thank you. The thing about my music is that, although I seem to have a gift for picking up stringed instruments easily, I am still quite at odds with most of my other musician friends. I am sure you can identify with that.
During COVID, many of them tried to ostracize me for refusing the jab and boosters. Something just told me to avoid it, and today I am still quite happy that I did. But those who ostracized me (except for one) have come back around, and several of them got quite sick after their jabs.
They still cling to the hope that they "did the right thing" and that "it would have been worse" if they had not been jabbed... all the logical fallacies we've heard before. I too am the sole conservative Trump voter in that circle.
But I was prepared to lose all of their friendships at that time, for I refuse to bend to peer pressure on things that I deeply believe. It's taken almost 5 years, but they (except for that one) have slowly come back around to our music circle. In fact I will be playing with them tomorrow night, Jan.1, for a regular jam session.
So I'm the "odd duck" among them, the outlier, and I don't mind that at all.
it is some fun times. I have seen it for years now.
To be completely honest with you. Please explain why you believe there is such a thing as a hard right and extreme views?
from what I gather from the Libertarian side of far right is the more extreme one is the more they just want to be left a lone. Some become isolated and would be extremely happy in a forest with no electricity and stream of water running by a cabin.
Am I wrong? Now if you say extreme right on the authoritarian spectrum I would consider one who want to be in control of others perpetually. Telling others to do things such as a what we would call a slave owner. These types require pampered lifestyles that are free for them to be dictators over others.
essentially one extreme right needs others to be free and one only needs themselves.
What I do know is more people like you need to run for politics and become more involved somehow. Those like you would be the best Pastors too. I understand the Libertarian side of the spectrum has the ones that are also true atheists, but those atheists still have more humility than the authoritarian nut cases and in many cases more than the over Zealous Christians.
I say "hard right" because I am farther to the right than all the other conservatives I know.
I believe in the laws of .308 and 5.56.
The USA is built for people to open carry so why is that far right? It is normal.
If everyone opened carried in the USA and had common sense that is true American Values. Not far right.
Hope you understand.
Not to say you around taunting people like a stupid thug in the movies do. That is not far right or even right.