If being a nurse is more important than being a wife and having children, then you have bigger issues on your plate.
The medical industry is going to continue to be an issue. So they want you to take the vaccine to go to school. Then what about the second dose, and the third dose and the fourth dose… Once you give and you’ll never be able to say no ever again.
Claim religious exemption, or allergic exemption, or some other exemption. Nobody else that goes to that school or works there needs to know your personal information because of Hippa.
There are so many side effects right now, people dying, brain pitons, blood clots, etc. The fact that anybody would demand, or require for somebody to take an experimental vaccine means these people are mentally ill people.
This is an adult choice. Make the choice it’s good for you not for anybody else. If you want to have children I highly recommend not having her take that vaccine. There are many women who are having Menstruation problems and losing their babies because they took the vaccine while pregnant. What kind of person would do that. A stupid person.
This. Any history of autoimmune disease in her or her family? Cancer? Any of that can get you out of the vaccine.
Or, just tell them "no. And mention the Nuremberg trials." If they are a legit nursing school, they'll know what you are referring to. You cannot force oe coeece people to be subjects in experiements, and that's exactly what these unapproved vaccines are.
Cooks have to wear hair nets. My COMPLETELY shaved bald brother-in-law has to wear a hair net, ... or quit his job.
Almost every profession has requirements.
I have to wear a mask at my office. Even though there is no national, state, county or city ordinance here, its a corporate rule. Non-negotiable. But, I have the choice. I could quit and find other employment. I waer the mask because I get paid 100K+. If they suddenly require the jab, I will quit. Thats my adult decision.
Your wife has a choice too... comply and continue, or find another option.
Sorry. Thats how it is.
She DOES NOT have to take the vaccine.... She has to take th evaccine if she wants to attend that school. Adult decision time.
sucks but true. i actually almost did school all over again just to become a nurse this time. I just haven't been able to do it after seeing what the med industry is all about when my husband was attacked & hospitalized.
Same point. Nobody can force you because it's experimental and therefore they can't require you take it. Even if it weren't experimental, there are reasons why you can avoid taking it. Like you said, adult time. Time to grow up and determine the course of your life, not allow some bureaucrat to do that for you.
They can't legally mandate an experimental vaccine. That said, when did that stop a liberal. I am also in a nursing program, and if they do mandate a covid vaccine I will leave. Can't be a nurse if you are dead or debilitated.
Her argument against is simple... It is illegal to experiment on human beings. These are not approved drugs and they have no clue about long term effects much less what is already happening to thousands. She tells them they are legally responsible for any harm that comes to her. Death sterilization burning skin falling off etc. There are hundreds of horror stories... research ... preparation is always best
It is possible that by waiting a couple years the situation will have changed a great deal about all this covid and vacc bullshit. Especially after the likely Nuremberg- level trials about crimes against humanity, that I believe will occur. I realize your wife wants to strike while the iron is hot, about her career. But there is that other option: To wait until later.
If they won't honor religious exemptions, your right to refuse experimental products, or allergy exemptions, and should she still wish to "learn" in such an institution, I think the options become:
Hire a lawyer
and/or
Raise a public stink
or
Find the loophole that you've missed.
Cast a wide net for a California pede who has successfully resisted this harassment and present this path to your wife. Keep in mind that a lot of times these notices sound like requirements but they are just recommendations wrapped in bully language.
Would you have any issues posting the phrasing of the requirement here? Maybe reviewing it as a group we can find the exemption path with you.
How would they know if she even took it? There are hippa laws. My employer (I’m a school admin) can’t ask me if I took the jab or not due to hippa laws. They do suggest to take it. My belief, it’s experimental. It’s like leading sheep
to the slaughter. No jab for me!
i honestly believe trump is saying its safe because it is. or at least as safe as a flu shot. it sucks, but i suggest she get the J&J or better yet falsify a vaccine passport card or whatever. find out quietly how they confirm everyone has the shot
also, she might try saying she has serious allergic reactions to PEG and any other known ingredients that exist in all the options
and the nuremberg stuff and emergency use arguments are real. she could win a huge lawsuit if they seek to force her to take the vax, you just need to grow a pair and stand for what's right
Please stop talking. These are NOT safe, are not even remotely similar to the flu vaccine, and you're recommending one of the more dangerous versions of the vaccine in J&J. Trump is not saying it's safe "because it is". He's playing that card to prevent the DS from saying he's anti-vax.
that seems a ridiculous theory...just so they can't say he's anti-vax, really ?
the deep state seems to be the one with the agenda to convince folks that J&J is no good, so admittedly I can tend to take their support as proof to not support and their witch hunts on people and products to be good cause to be supportive on those rare occasions I don't feel the need to go down a rabbit hole.
and yiou say it's not remotely close to flu vax because you've heard stories or you have FIRST HAND experience and/or knowledge of real damage from the vax ?
I am anti-vax all around so don't get me wrong, I think almost all vax are bad and I had thought for a period that the covidiot vax was very harmful and DNA altering, but after more discernment I don't think Trump/Q/white hats would allow folks to take these if they were what you think they are. just my humble opinion
Little background, sorry....I'm a physician working in drug development. Probably should have thrown that out there.
The KEY difference...
The flu vaccine has "inactivated influenza virus" in it. It's a guess at what strain of the flu will be going around in any given year, but the virus itself is in the vaccine. This allows your immune system to mount an immune response to a SPECIFIC virus. The down-side is you may experience flu-like symptoms as the immune response builds. Also, there is roughly a 10% chance they will get the correct strain of influenza in the vaccine for any given year. I don't get flu shots, for what it's worth.
The Covid-19 virus has NEVER been isolated (the CDC has even admitted this). So the "vaccines" (which these are NOT) have mRNA in them that SUPPOSEDLY cause the cells in your body to generate a spike protein on the cell surface that MAY mimic what Covid-19 produces in your cells, thus allowing your immune system to recognize it. HOWEVER...the spike protein is generated on all of your cells and can cause a massive autoimmune response to your own cells and organs. This is just one of the side effects. There are also significant effects on blood components (as seen in the J&J vaccine mostly) that can kill quite suddenly (ie: blood clot in the brain).
Trump is NOT pushing the vaccine out of benevolence or any clinical data. There is none to indicate it works. The safety profiles are available online via the VAERs on the CDC website. It's a complicated search, which they make unnecessarily complicate and difficult for the general public to use. Also, there is no long-term safety data, the drugs are NOT approved by the FDA, and the studies aren't expected to present all safety data until 2023 or 2024. WE are the experiemental subjects in this study, and it cannot be mandated, nor can you be force to be a part of this experiment.
Trump is playing the game by using their language and taking ammunition away from them. I didn't say I agreed with it. But if he came out anti-vax, they would rip him a new one over it. That's the reason he also rushed the vaccine to the public before the election. He took that "victory" away form them, too. Hell, the drugs were ready well before the election and they delayed release to try to make him look bad.
thank you for the background and your passing along of knowledge. my extensive research has lead me to all of the same medical conclusions you have relayed. it's reassuring to learn that your studied opinions/facts align with mine. for example:
I fully agree with all of this and would add that even if they get the stain correct it tends to only show benefits for less than 50% of those getting the jab... "The flu vaccine has "inactivated influenza virus" in it. It's a guess at what strain of the flu will be going around in any given year, but the virus itself is in the vaccine. This allows your immune system to mount an immune response to a SPECIFIC virus. The down-side is you may experience flu-like symptoms as the immune response builds. Also, there is roughly a 10% chance they will get the correct strain of influenza in the vaccine for any given year. I don't get flu shots, for what it's worth."
I agree with this "The Covid-19 virus has NEVER been isolated".
And i agree "it cannot be mandated, nor can you be force to be a part of this experiment."
This i find highly questionable "There are also significant effects on blood components (as seen in the J&J vaccine mostly) that can kill quite suddenly (ie: blood clot in the brain)." I mean who is telling us this? the same lying main stream media? is it possible J&J is the equivalent to the cabal in the covid vax venue as Trump is in the political venue? dig real deep and ask yourself why couldn't this be the case?
i would ask that we try to start with a clean slate and a realization of how manipulated our realities can become based upon our willingness to trust in sources we maybe shouldn't, and in some cases trusting in sources we should trust but recognizing even they can be duped.
i am not here to tell you or anyone that i know anything to be absolutely true, so if i choose my words improperly please understand that i realize there's always reason for some doubt even if it's only miniscule. instead a attempt to think critically and as a result i can often prove myself wrong, or someone else can, but in any event being wrong doesn't bother me. it instead keeps me humble.
i would start with asking, has trump lied to his supporters? my answer is no. and I'm not referring to campaign rhetoric such as Mexico paying for the wall which i think it truly tried to accomplish and may have to some extent, but meaningful statements and promises.
why would trump choose to only lie about this one significant matter? and what consequences would it have if he then became known as the guy that lied but "only when he decided it was for our own good"? i don't believe trump would lie and if he did it would be detrimental and go against everything he claims to stand for and the heart and soul of our community which recognizes that honesty is the utmost sign of one's character.
so if trump didn't lie, how can he possibly say the "vaccine" is safe? does, or perhaps more accurately "did", he have the ability through known and unknown unilateral presidential powers to do things for the sake of the country? i think so and he's said as much about these powers out loud when he was recognized as president by the entire country.
if he had such awesome powers could he have essentially forced the big pharmas through these powers and through 1 key officer to issue a covid vax that was actually the prior years flu vax or something of the like? people to ignorant to wake up yet that get the covid vax feel bullet proof (and i know some of these people personally) and those not taking it realize it's bullshit. trump would then know he's not killing anyone, or at least not any idiot that wouldn't have received the regular flu shot anyway.
vaers is easy to fake harms whether by the design of trump and the other white hats or by warped people just looking to scare people. i just can't come up with any other reasonable explanation for trump telling his supporters it's safe. there's no logic in it being some code wink wink that he realizes we realize not to get it and to hell with non supporting Americans. that's not trump and not god
i don't know of any real vax harms and i know lots of ignorant fools that have gone and got the jabs. any reports either aren't directly from a reliable source or they seem as if they could be from patriots acting the part as part of the scare Q says is necessary
VAERs are, if anything, being under-reported. They are not "faked".
And I know people in the industry who work on mRNA treatments foe certain rare diseases. Thrombocytopenia and protein-related side effects are prevalent. These are the exact reasons these drugs don't make it to market. Too dangerous, too much risk for too little gain. Yet these "vaccines" did not have to prove themselves. I am not trusting blind info from "big pharma", I am NOT trusting the information they aren't telling us from poorly run studies. Huge difference.
Anti-vax or not, getting this injection is pure stupidity.
if you are to free your mind from the prison that we've all been in for so long it starts with humility and recognizing how little we actually know. my screen name is based on a famous quote attributed to Socrates that reads along the lines of "i now know I'm intelligent because i know i know nothing", or something to that effect.
i know that i don't know if vaers is over reported , under reported or accurate but my theory suggests it's over reported.
you state with such certainty that you know it's under reported. we, like the sheep we seek to wake up need to avoid our own confirmation biases.
Read more. A LOT more. Particularly on how the spike proteins produced by this product mimic those in the female reproductive system and cause autoimmune attacks on those organs
The simple, but tough answer, is she shouldnt take the job, and you should move out of state. Look for other jobs that her skills and education apply to that dont require it. Im in the same boat, as my wife works in health care management. However, she is working from home at the moment and its not required from her - yet.
You already know that deep down inside. I am just gonna say it out loud for you.
Remember, you ALWAYS have a choice. It might not be the most convenient, but you DO have a choice.
Firstly does your wife truly want to be a nurse to help people and show compassion for your community? Or is she just in it for the money? If its for money just find another profession, there's to many nurses now who just want the money and could care less about people. If she truly wants to be a nurse I'd just wait till all the shit blows over, plenty of nurses to the vax and I'm sure quite a bit will become disabled or dead because of it.
As a Nurse Anesthetist at a big trauma center. The staff has 95-100% vaccinate rate. As much as we come in contact with patients who have it, and need emergent surgery, exposure rates can be high. She can try wearing P-100 mask, gown and gloving as needed. But, she’s in training and has not established an A game. Nothing makes you feel safer, caring for the viral positive patients than having at least the vaccination. From what I’ve seen, the virus is a killer. It may not kill everyone, but we can’t tell who will be unlucky. People can rant about wearing masks and not getting the vaccine. That’s cool, as long as you keep a safe distance from the exposed. Ask yourself, if a Covid positive person coughs, sneezes or laughs in front of you, are you safe? Burst exposure is the most concentrated method of spread. Stay safe. Make your own decision. Bad decisions can hurt more than pride.
"People can rant about wearing masks and not getting the vaccine. That’s cool, as long as you keep a safe distance from the exposed."
LOL, with statements like that, nobody should be taking any advice about COVID from you. You get way too much information from people in authority who have no idea what they're talking about.
I am guessing you personally are exposed to how many Covid patients a day. Your not a cowboy, maybe a dumbass Stick your head in lion’s mouth and I’ll watch him bite it off.
She can claim religious/spiritual reasons. Also, get the book "Goodbye Germ Theory" which is full of lawful documents, protests and remedies that can be used.
I know at least 5 nurses that have all declined any and all vaccines without issue, let alone this experimental toxic nostrum which is not a vaccine. The administration is pressuring and effectively lying to you both by saying there aren't any other options. It's simple.
Keep in mind, the peer pressure won't let up on your wife. Hopefully she's strong and prepared to handle this.
“Truly I tell you,” Jesus replied, “no one who has left home or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or fields for me and the gospel will fail to receive a hundred times as much in this present age: homes, brothers, sisters, mothers, children and fields—along with persecutions—and in the age to come eternal life. But many who are first will be last, and the last first.”
Mark 10:29-31 NIV
Therefore, I urge you, brothers and sisters, in view of God’s mercy, to offer your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and pleasing to God—this is your true and proper worship. Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God’s will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will.
Romans 12:1-2 NIV
But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you.
John 14:26 NIV
That's really a good start because the vaccine will kill any chance at your wife trying to get pregnant. Some of the Posts on here related to comments of pregnant women/ when they took the vaccine they found it to be harmful to the developing child... One of the women said she has to wait until after the delivery of her child to see if the vaccine caused brain damage?
Some advice for you and your wife... She should Lay low and forget about Nursing School for awhile. And she could look at getting a Part-time job for something to do and in the meantime work on having kids.
But please avoid the vaccine, it is not only a danger to Pregnant women but this vaccine is in fact killing people! Some good watching here https://rumble.com/c/AndWeKnow
Look for contraindications to receiving the vaccine. For instance, if you have a history of severe allergic reactions or anaphylaxis, then the vaccine isn’t recommended. A history of blood clots might be a contraindication as well. I’m not saying she should lie about her medical history, but maybe she can find something that would disqualify her.
The fact that you are trying for children should be enough for her to at least research it thoroughly. By herself. This could be a life changing decision. Can your wife put off entry by three months or a semester or whatever? Long enough to see what happens in the meantime. There are already pauses in administration in several places.
https://www.americasfrontlinedoctors.org/legal/vaccines-the-law. Go to the vaccine public letter here.
Mmmm that attorney intake form looks as juicy as any steak I've had this year!
They are NOT FDA approved, therefore cannot be mandated or coerced to take them...PERIOD
It's nuts. Just have her say: "sure I'll take it, after it's FDA approved."
Which will be never after the long term effects become apparent within months to a couple years
Nothing should be mandated regardless if it’s “approved” or not.
Yep
If being a nurse is more important than being a wife and having children, then you have bigger issues on your plate.
The medical industry is going to continue to be an issue. So they want you to take the vaccine to go to school. Then what about the second dose, and the third dose and the fourth dose… Once you give and you’ll never be able to say no ever again.
Claim religious exemption, or allergic exemption, or some other exemption. Nobody else that goes to that school or works there needs to know your personal information because of Hippa.
There are so many side effects right now, people dying, brain pitons, blood clots, etc. The fact that anybody would demand, or require for somebody to take an experimental vaccine means these people are mentally ill people.
This is an adult choice. Make the choice it’s good for you not for anybody else. If you want to have children I highly recommend not having her take that vaccine. There are many women who are having Menstruation problems and losing their babies because they took the vaccine while pregnant. What kind of person would do that. A stupid person.
This ???
I’m a nurse and they can’t force it because it’s emergency approved. Just say you can’t take it because of history of allergic reactions ¯_(ツ)_/¯
This. Any history of autoimmune disease in her or her family? Cancer? Any of that can get you out of the vaccine.
Or, just tell them "no. And mention the Nuremberg trials." If they are a legit nursing school, they'll know what you are referring to. You cannot force oe coeece people to be subjects in experiements, and that's exactly what these unapproved vaccines are.
This is the beginning of making adult decisions.
You have choices; Comply and join or walk away.
Cooks have to wear hair nets. My COMPLETELY shaved bald brother-in-law has to wear a hair net, ... or quit his job.
Almost every profession has requirements.
I have to wear a mask at my office. Even though there is no national, state, county or city ordinance here, its a corporate rule. Non-negotiable. But, I have the choice. I could quit and find other employment. I waer the mask because I get paid 100K+. If they suddenly require the jab, I will quit. Thats my adult decision.
Your wife has a choice too... comply and continue, or find another option.
Sorry. Thats how it is.
She DOES NOT have to take the vaccine.... She has to take th evaccine if she wants to attend that school. Adult decision time.
sucks but true. i actually almost did school all over again just to become a nurse this time. I just haven't been able to do it after seeing what the med industry is all about when my husband was attacked & hospitalized.
Bullshit.
Reading skills, yo.
Shes not a Dr or nurse who is being forced by an employer/hospital.
Shes a potential nursing STUDENT being forced by a school.
Same point. Nobody can force you because it's experimental and therefore they can't require you take it. Even if it weren't experimental, there are reasons why you can avoid taking it. Like you said, adult time. Time to grow up and determine the course of your life, not allow some bureaucrat to do that for you.
They can’t deny you admittance based on the color of your skin, or religion. I see no difference here...
My daughter in law is an obstetrician and she won't take it. She also advises her pregnant patients not to take it.
Also federal law prohibits any place of employment from mandating an experimental drug/procedure.
Federal law prohibits employers and others from requiring vaccination with a Covid-19 vaccine distributed under an EUA
They can't legally mandate an experimental vaccine. That said, when did that stop a liberal. I am also in a nursing program, and if they do mandate a covid vaccine I will leave. Can't be a nurse if you are dead or debilitated.
The best part is in a couple years when they dont have qualified nurses you’ll get them to pay your tuition to become a nurse
Look into religious exemptions....
Her argument against is simple... It is illegal to experiment on human beings. These are not approved drugs and they have no clue about long term effects much less what is already happening to thousands. She tells them they are legally responsible for any harm that comes to her. Death sterilization burning skin falling off etc. There are hundreds of horror stories... research ... preparation is always best
find a new line of work.
It will all fall sooner or later.
It will get much worse when all of the medical folks that took the vax die off
It is possible that by waiting a couple years the situation will have changed a great deal about all this covid and vacc bullshit. Especially after the likely Nuremberg- level trials about crimes against humanity, that I believe will occur. I realize your wife wants to strike while the iron is hot, about her career. But there is that other option: To wait until later.
You already know the answer. That's the thing.
If they won't honor religious exemptions, your right to refuse experimental products, or allergy exemptions, and should she still wish to "learn" in such an institution, I think the options become:
and/or
or
Cast a wide net for a California pede who has successfully resisted this harassment and present this path to your wife. Keep in mind that a lot of times these notices sound like requirements but they are just recommendations wrapped in bully language.
Would you have any issues posting the phrasing of the requirement here? Maybe reviewing it as a group we can find the exemption path with you.
She is entering The Machine.
Play along or get out.
It will always be this way.
She will be forced to sell products she thinks are harming people by entering this Machine.
You've been warned.
Maybe natural medicine is a better route.
How would they know if she even took it? There are hippa laws. My employer (I’m a school admin) can’t ask me if I took the jab or not due to hippa laws. They do suggest to take it. My belief, it’s experimental. It’s like leading sheep to the slaughter. No jab for me!
It's apparent nursing requirements per state are different. The next question is after nursing school, what will the requirements be for employment? Found article from Houston, TX that addresses same issue! https://www.click2houston.com/news/local/2021/04/17/nurse-expresses-concerns-about-houston-methodists-mandatory-vaccine-policy-for-employees/?__vfz=medium%3Dconversations_top_pages
Life insurances wont pay out foe this in the usa
i honestly believe trump is saying its safe because it is. or at least as safe as a flu shot. it sucks, but i suggest she get the J&J or better yet falsify a vaccine passport card or whatever. find out quietly how they confirm everyone has the shot
also, she might try saying she has serious allergic reactions to PEG and any other known ingredients that exist in all the options
and the nuremberg stuff and emergency use arguments are real. she could win a huge lawsuit if they seek to force her to take the vax, you just need to grow a pair and stand for what's right
Please stop talking. These are NOT safe, are not even remotely similar to the flu vaccine, and you're recommending one of the more dangerous versions of the vaccine in J&J. Trump is not saying it's safe "because it is". He's playing that card to prevent the DS from saying he's anti-vax.
that seems a ridiculous theory...just so they can't say he's anti-vax, really ?
the deep state seems to be the one with the agenda to convince folks that J&J is no good, so admittedly I can tend to take their support as proof to not support and their witch hunts on people and products to be good cause to be supportive on those rare occasions I don't feel the need to go down a rabbit hole.
and yiou say it's not remotely close to flu vax because you've heard stories or you have FIRST HAND experience and/or knowledge of real damage from the vax ?
I am anti-vax all around so don't get me wrong, I think almost all vax are bad and I had thought for a period that the covidiot vax was very harmful and DNA altering, but after more discernment I don't think Trump/Q/white hats would allow folks to take these if they were what you think they are. just my humble opinion
Little background, sorry....I'm a physician working in drug development. Probably should have thrown that out there.
The KEY difference... The flu vaccine has "inactivated influenza virus" in it. It's a guess at what strain of the flu will be going around in any given year, but the virus itself is in the vaccine. This allows your immune system to mount an immune response to a SPECIFIC virus. The down-side is you may experience flu-like symptoms as the immune response builds. Also, there is roughly a 10% chance they will get the correct strain of influenza in the vaccine for any given year. I don't get flu shots, for what it's worth.
The Covid-19 virus has NEVER been isolated (the CDC has even admitted this). So the "vaccines" (which these are NOT) have mRNA in them that SUPPOSEDLY cause the cells in your body to generate a spike protein on the cell surface that MAY mimic what Covid-19 produces in your cells, thus allowing your immune system to recognize it. HOWEVER...the spike protein is generated on all of your cells and can cause a massive autoimmune response to your own cells and organs. This is just one of the side effects. There are also significant effects on blood components (as seen in the J&J vaccine mostly) that can kill quite suddenly (ie: blood clot in the brain).
Trump is NOT pushing the vaccine out of benevolence or any clinical data. There is none to indicate it works. The safety profiles are available online via the VAERs on the CDC website. It's a complicated search, which they make unnecessarily complicate and difficult for the general public to use. Also, there is no long-term safety data, the drugs are NOT approved by the FDA, and the studies aren't expected to present all safety data until 2023 or 2024. WE are the experiemental subjects in this study, and it cannot be mandated, nor can you be force to be a part of this experiment.
Trump is playing the game by using their language and taking ammunition away from them. I didn't say I agreed with it. But if he came out anti-vax, they would rip him a new one over it. That's the reason he also rushed the vaccine to the public before the election. He took that "victory" away form them, too. Hell, the drugs were ready well before the election and they delayed release to try to make him look bad.
thank you for the background and your passing along of knowledge. my extensive research has lead me to all of the same medical conclusions you have relayed. it's reassuring to learn that your studied opinions/facts align with mine. for example:
I fully agree with all of this and would add that even if they get the stain correct it tends to only show benefits for less than 50% of those getting the jab... "The flu vaccine has "inactivated influenza virus" in it. It's a guess at what strain of the flu will be going around in any given year, but the virus itself is in the vaccine. This allows your immune system to mount an immune response to a SPECIFIC virus. The down-side is you may experience flu-like symptoms as the immune response builds. Also, there is roughly a 10% chance they will get the correct strain of influenza in the vaccine for any given year. I don't get flu shots, for what it's worth."
I agree with this "The Covid-19 virus has NEVER been isolated".
And i agree "it cannot be mandated, nor can you be force to be a part of this experiment."
This i find highly questionable "There are also significant effects on blood components (as seen in the J&J vaccine mostly) that can kill quite suddenly (ie: blood clot in the brain)." I mean who is telling us this? the same lying main stream media? is it possible J&J is the equivalent to the cabal in the covid vax venue as Trump is in the political venue? dig real deep and ask yourself why couldn't this be the case?
i would ask that we try to start with a clean slate and a realization of how manipulated our realities can become based upon our willingness to trust in sources we maybe shouldn't, and in some cases trusting in sources we should trust but recognizing even they can be duped.
i am not here to tell you or anyone that i know anything to be absolutely true, so if i choose my words improperly please understand that i realize there's always reason for some doubt even if it's only miniscule. instead a attempt to think critically and as a result i can often prove myself wrong, or someone else can, but in any event being wrong doesn't bother me. it instead keeps me humble.
i would start with asking, has trump lied to his supporters? my answer is no. and I'm not referring to campaign rhetoric such as Mexico paying for the wall which i think it truly tried to accomplish and may have to some extent, but meaningful statements and promises.
why would trump choose to only lie about this one significant matter? and what consequences would it have if he then became known as the guy that lied but "only when he decided it was for our own good"? i don't believe trump would lie and if he did it would be detrimental and go against everything he claims to stand for and the heart and soul of our community which recognizes that honesty is the utmost sign of one's character.
so if trump didn't lie, how can he possibly say the "vaccine" is safe? does, or perhaps more accurately "did", he have the ability through known and unknown unilateral presidential powers to do things for the sake of the country? i think so and he's said as much about these powers out loud when he was recognized as president by the entire country.
if he had such awesome powers could he have essentially forced the big pharmas through these powers and through 1 key officer to issue a covid vax that was actually the prior years flu vax or something of the like? people to ignorant to wake up yet that get the covid vax feel bullet proof (and i know some of these people personally) and those not taking it realize it's bullshit. trump would then know he's not killing anyone, or at least not any idiot that wouldn't have received the regular flu shot anyway.
vaers is easy to fake harms whether by the design of trump and the other white hats or by warped people just looking to scare people. i just can't come up with any other reasonable explanation for trump telling his supporters it's safe. there's no logic in it being some code wink wink that he realizes we realize not to get it and to hell with non supporting Americans. that's not trump and not god
i don't know of any real vax harms and i know lots of ignorant fools that have gone and got the jabs. any reports either aren't directly from a reliable source or they seem as if they could be from patriots acting the part as part of the scare Q says is necessary
my 2 cents anyway fren
VAERs are, if anything, being under-reported. They are not "faked".
And I know people in the industry who work on mRNA treatments foe certain rare diseases. Thrombocytopenia and protein-related side effects are prevalent. These are the exact reasons these drugs don't make it to market. Too dangerous, too much risk for too little gain. Yet these "vaccines" did not have to prove themselves. I am not trusting blind info from "big pharma", I am NOT trusting the information they aren't telling us from poorly run studies. Huge difference.
Anti-vax or not, getting this injection is pure stupidity.
if you are to free your mind from the prison that we've all been in for so long it starts with humility and recognizing how little we actually know. my screen name is based on a famous quote attributed to Socrates that reads along the lines of "i now know I'm intelligent because i know i know nothing", or something to that effect.
i know that i don't know if vaers is over reported , under reported or accurate but my theory suggests it's over reported.
you state with such certainty that you know it's under reported. we, like the sheep we seek to wake up need to avoid our own confirmation biases.
just my opinion fren and i say so with love
I'm done with your pseudo-intellectual mumbo jumbo, fren.
You are entitled to your opinions and theories. I'll rely on my experience in this very industry. Have a good day.
I'm a nurse. My hospital isn't requiring it. I'm in AZ but my company is based in CA
Read more. A LOT more. Particularly on how the spike proteins produced by this product mimic those in the female reproductive system and cause autoimmune attacks on those organs
Western women being blind sheep, trusting the government but not their husband. What a shocker.
The simple, but tough answer, is she shouldnt take the job, and you should move out of state. Look for other jobs that her skills and education apply to that dont require it. Im in the same boat, as my wife works in health care management. However, she is working from home at the moment and its not required from her - yet.
You already know that deep down inside. I am just gonna say it out loud for you.
Remember, you ALWAYS have a choice. It might not be the most convenient, but you DO have a choice.
Firstly does your wife truly want to be a nurse to help people and show compassion for your community? Or is she just in it for the money? If its for money just find another profession, there's to many nurses now who just want the money and could care less about people. If she truly wants to be a nurse I'd just wait till all the shit blows over, plenty of nurses to the vax and I'm sure quite a bit will become disabled or dead because of it.
I don't know any hospital systems in chicago that require the shot...
I'd say the path of least resistance, is finding a based doctor to write up an exemption.
As a Nurse Anesthetist at a big trauma center. The staff has 95-100% vaccinate rate. As much as we come in contact with patients who have it, and need emergent surgery, exposure rates can be high. She can try wearing P-100 mask, gown and gloving as needed. But, she’s in training and has not established an A game. Nothing makes you feel safer, caring for the viral positive patients than having at least the vaccination. From what I’ve seen, the virus is a killer. It may not kill everyone, but we can’t tell who will be unlucky. People can rant about wearing masks and not getting the vaccine. That’s cool, as long as you keep a safe distance from the exposed. Ask yourself, if a Covid positive person coughs, sneezes or laughs in front of you, are you safe? Burst exposure is the most concentrated method of spread. Stay safe. Make your own decision. Bad decisions can hurt more than pride.
"People can rant about wearing masks and not getting the vaccine. That’s cool, as long as you keep a safe distance from the exposed."
LOL, with statements like that, nobody should be taking any advice about COVID from you. You get way too much information from people in authority who have no idea what they're talking about.
I am guessing you personally are exposed to how many Covid patients a day. Your not a cowboy, maybe a dumbass Stick your head in lion’s mouth and I’ll watch him bite it off.
How many anesthetized covid patients are sneezing laughing and coughing on you? Get out of here with your bullshit.
She can claim religious/spiritual reasons. Also, get the book "Goodbye Germ Theory" which is full of lawful documents, protests and remedies that can be used.
I know at least 5 nurses that have all declined any and all vaccines without issue, let alone this experimental toxic nostrum which is not a vaccine. The administration is pressuring and effectively lying to you both by saying there aren't any other options. It's simple.
Keep in mind, the peer pressure won't let up on your wife. Hopefully she's strong and prepared to handle this.
“Truly I tell you,” Jesus replied, “no one who has left home or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or fields for me and the gospel will fail to receive a hundred times as much in this present age: homes, brothers, sisters, mothers, children and fields—along with persecutions—and in the age to come eternal life. But many who are first will be last, and the last first.” Mark 10:29-31 NIV
https://bible.com/bible/111/mrk.10.29-31.NIV
Therefore, I urge you, brothers and sisters, in view of God’s mercy, to offer your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and pleasing to God—this is your true and proper worship. Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God’s will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will. Romans 12:1-2 NIV
https://bible.com/bible/111/rom.12.1-2.NIV
But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you. John 14:26 NIV
https://john.bible/john-14-26
Bribing a cop is illegal, but is bribing a medical professional?
That's really a good start because the vaccine will kill any chance at your wife trying to get pregnant. Some of the Posts on here related to comments of pregnant women/ when they took the vaccine they found it to be harmful to the developing child... One of the women said she has to wait until after the delivery of her child to see if the vaccine caused brain damage?
And here's some good reading for you on: Pregnant people are at increased risk for severe illness from COVID-19 https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/recommendations/pregnancy.html
Some advice for you and your wife... She should Lay low and forget about Nursing School for awhile. And she could look at getting a Part-time job for something to do and in the meantime work on having kids.
But please avoid the vaccine, it is not only a danger to Pregnant women but this vaccine is in fact killing people! Some good watching here https://rumble.com/c/AndWeKnow
Look for contraindications to receiving the vaccine. For instance, if you have a history of severe allergic reactions or anaphylaxis, then the vaccine isn’t recommended. A history of blood clots might be a contraindication as well. I’m not saying she should lie about her medical history, but maybe she can find something that would disqualify her.
Simply claim exemption... you should be able to do it under religious freedom.
Try to get covid,and a proof.
The fact that you are trying for children should be enough for her to at least research it thoroughly. By herself. This could be a life changing decision. Can your wife put off entry by three months or a semester or whatever? Long enough to see what happens in the meantime. There are already pauses in administration in several places.