If a baby car seat fails and kills (1) baby the whole works is
scrapped & recalled followed by a lawsuit -- but if a vaccine kill 5K+ ..... Fuck it ! Keep pushing the jab !!! Fuck em
Or if an airliner control system fails and 346 passengers are killed in two crashes, do we just shrug and keep on boarding them, because the events are "rare"? (ref. 737 MAX catastrophes). Strange how the government put that product on total hold while the causes and corrections were worked to the nth degree. Not one more death is allowable. But vaccine...it's a shooting gallery. Walk right up!
VAERS data isn't cases from the vaccine, just all cases after having taken it. So your analogy is incorrect, because it would be perfectly normal for a few thousand people to die after hundreds of millions went on a flight. You wouldn't blame the airline for someone dropping dead in a car accident a week later, right? That's what you're doing if you think VAERS data shows the vaccines killed 5k. It's just wrong.
Not really. It's cases that correlate with the vaccine. And with the very low reporting rate, one might expect that those reporting feel very strongly about the correlation.
Hypotheses are formulated upon correlation. If true science existed then this hypothesis would be subjected to the scientific process.
"Vaccine providers are encouraged to report any clinically significant health problem following vaccination to VAERS, whether or not they believe the vaccine was the cause."
Straight from VAERS. So no, they don't need to feel strongly, they are told to report it even if they don't.
With the level of follow up investigating that's being done for these deaths (which is effectively none by the CDC) you can't definitively say whether it was or was not due to the vaccine. But you shilling that it has to be one way all over this thread is telling which narrative you want it to be.
Sorry pal, but it would NOT be "perfectly normal" for a few thousand people to die after even hundreds of millions of passenger-flights, as a result of a design flaw. You have a mistaken view of the airline and airplane industries.
It is generally understood that VAERS undersamples the events reported, because they are self-reported. Crank the numbers up by a factor of 100 and you might be closer to the truth.
My point is that the government rightly put the kibosh on the 737 MAX after 346 fatalities, and didn't let up until there was convincing evidence that the flaw had been corrected. NO such diligence regarding the vaccine. (It also turns out that the vaccine companies have histories either of unethical product practices or a complete lack of relevant experience in producing the vaccine.)
You're missing the point entirely, "pal." As I've said over and over again, VAERS deaths are not conclusively linked to the vaccine. So your idea about a design flaw is entirely wrong, it doesn't make sense. The government put the kibosh on the 737 because it was the obvious cause of those deaths. The government wouldn't have stopped the 737 if .000017% of people got sick a week after they flew, because that's nonsense. VAERS deaths are NOT conclusively linked to the vaccine, and that's just reality. Why is that so hard to understand?
Firstly, why do you now trust the CDC when it confirms your bias?
That makes zero sense.
Secondly, don't you find it odd that the majority of deaths mentioned on VAERS are Pfizer patients or Moderna and not J&J, yet J&J and AZ-O are the ones being targeted as "very bad, not good" by various governments?
Don't you find it odd that those two latter ones are AD26/ChAdOx1 vector-based vaccines and the former are new, untested, unverified mRNA gene therapies?
Don't you find that strange?
It's all good and well to use information for research, but question why, how and the quality of the information that's being put out there and match it up to other known information.
I don't think they are trusting them just making note of the mention, we all know there have been WELL over 5K in deaths from their human experimentation.
the argument is that adverse affects aren't as reported as frequently as death so that the death number is closer to accurate. I.e, a bad cough is easier not to report than someone dying.
Which could be true. But we live in a time of total deceit under an illegal coup supported by a supplicant media. So I would venture ALL injuries, from mild to death, are ALL under-reported.
The only person I know that died from the china virus was shortly after her second jab. No mention of it having any roll in her death. Surely it was just a coincidence, and don't you dare ask any questions that might dissuade anyone else from getting the jab!
This is not about trusting the CDC. This is simply highlighting that the CDC are finally being forced to acknowledge the data.
Of course, the true death totals are significantly higher that what the VAERS reporting system has logged. Look at the sudden unexpected death figures (up from approx 2,000 per month to 5-6,000 per month since the WuFlu vaccine began), so yes, the VAERS system is under-reporting the true death figure from the vaccines.
But again, this isn't about trusting the liars at the CDC. OP's post is simply about highlighting that the CDC are being forced to acknowledge the data.
HQ and ivermectin killed how many ? Saved how many ? What a fk nightmare and the idiots are now dragging their children for the jab.. for a
Flu that is treatable. Same amount died of flu last year before COVID hit the streets. 25 people died from the sars vaccine and they pulled it .my God ...
A flu that is treatable, and also a flu that doesn't affect children anyway (99.998% recovery rate in 0-20 year olds, and the 0.002% who don't recover have on average 3.8 other comorbities, i.e. they tested positive for the WuFlu but that didn't kill them).
Knowing how accurate they were reporting the Covid numbers, want to bet the 285 million doses is much, much smaller. What they are probably trying to hide is the death numbers, as a percentage, are much larger.
More people died from the covid vaccine - even according to the government's bullshit numbers - than 9/11.
I just want to go on record that I think we should not assume invading some shithole in the middle east will provide a solution. Maybe we should try something else.
No, the 5k number includes all deaths, whether the medical professional thought they were from the vaccine or not, they are told to report them regardless.
The CDC isn't admitting that a single death reported had anything but coincidence to do with a vaccine. It's actually saying the opposite. It states
" A review of available clinical information, including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records has not established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines."
Because this is the truth. Anyone can report to VAERS, and medical professionals are encouraged to report any reactions, whether they believe it to be from the vaccine or not. The MAJORITY of vaers deaths are entirely unrelated to the vaccine and would be there even if it was tracking a placebo.
285 million ADMINISTERED in USA? Uummm...NOT. 285M/330M = 86%. (gtfo). I’ve been tracking VAERS vaxx deaths, & right now it says “4406” since 5/21. CDC is BUNK, nothing new there. It's overdue for an update, they’ve been updating weekly fyi. As we all also know, the J&J was the ONLY TRUE VAXX, hence bad press & withdrawal. Probably the only one that’s not toxic(?)! Other pede’s (below & elsewhere) know more than me; just sayin?
With the exception of J&J the other vaccines are two doses. 52% have received at least one does and 42% are fully vaccinated. That 42% includes all those that received 2 doses or one does of the J&J.
Why would anyone believe any numbers they put out? I hear what you’re saying but all the sudden they’re telling the truth about covid? They’re no longer lying to us?
They aren't admitting anything. Read the site;
"Over 285 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States. During this time, VAERS received 4,863 reports of death (0.0017%) A review of available clinical information, has not established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines. However, recent reports indicate a plausible causal relationship between the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine and a rare and serious adverse event blood clots which has caused deaths."
Seriously click the link. It’s good stuff. They have a enormous page devoted to all the horrible ways this vaccine could kill you. But it’s totally safe guys.
Holy shit another person who doesn't understand VAERS and uses it to fear monger. Of the 5k deaths reported to VAERS, only a tiny fraction are actually from the vaccine. Why do you insist on spreading covidian-like fear using false info?
Coincidentally, Potatus just gave POTUS “credit” for the vaccine development. See a narrative brewing?
https://greatawakening.win/p/12ih9n0J0w/biden-breaks-with-himself-by-giv/
Yep. But, with Fauci's emails, that narrative won't gain much traction.
Ahh they going to blame Trump for everything lol
If a baby car seat fails and kills (1) baby the whole works is scrapped & recalled followed by a lawsuit -- but if a vaccine kill 5K+ ..... Fuck it ! Keep pushing the jab !!! Fuck em
Or if an airliner control system fails and 346 passengers are killed in two crashes, do we just shrug and keep on boarding them, because the events are "rare"? (ref. 737 MAX catastrophes). Strange how the government put that product on total hold while the causes and corrections were worked to the nth degree. Not one more death is allowable. But vaccine...it's a shooting gallery. Walk right up!
VAERS data isn't cases from the vaccine, just all cases after having taken it. So your analogy is incorrect, because it would be perfectly normal for a few thousand people to die after hundreds of millions went on a flight. You wouldn't blame the airline for someone dropping dead in a car accident a week later, right? That's what you're doing if you think VAERS data shows the vaccines killed 5k. It's just wrong.
Not really. It's cases that correlate with the vaccine. And with the very low reporting rate, one might expect that those reporting feel very strongly about the correlation.
Hypotheses are formulated upon correlation. If true science existed then this hypothesis would be subjected to the scientific process.
"Vaccine providers are encouraged to report any clinically significant health problem following vaccination to VAERS, whether or not they believe the vaccine was the cause."
Straight from VAERS. So no, they don't need to feel strongly, they are told to report it even if they don't.
With the level of follow up investigating that's being done for these deaths (which is effectively none by the CDC) you can't definitively say whether it was or was not due to the vaccine. But you shilling that it has to be one way all over this thread is telling which narrative you want it to be.
Me telling you the same exact thing Trump is telling you is shilling.
K.
Sorry pal, but it would NOT be "perfectly normal" for a few thousand people to die after even hundreds of millions of passenger-flights, as a result of a design flaw. You have a mistaken view of the airline and airplane industries.
It is generally understood that VAERS undersamples the events reported, because they are self-reported. Crank the numbers up by a factor of 100 and you might be closer to the truth.
My point is that the government rightly put the kibosh on the 737 MAX after 346 fatalities, and didn't let up until there was convincing evidence that the flaw had been corrected. NO such diligence regarding the vaccine. (It also turns out that the vaccine companies have histories either of unethical product practices or a complete lack of relevant experience in producing the vaccine.)
You're missing the point entirely, "pal." As I've said over and over again, VAERS deaths are not conclusively linked to the vaccine. So your idea about a design flaw is entirely wrong, it doesn't make sense. The government put the kibosh on the 737 because it was the obvious cause of those deaths. The government wouldn't have stopped the 737 if .000017% of people got sick a week after they flew, because that's nonsense. VAERS deaths are NOT conclusively linked to the vaccine, and that's just reality. Why is that so hard to understand?
It didn't kill the 5k, that's not how VAERS data works. Why does nobody read?
They only mention the side effects of Johnson & Johnson. Sometimes the media mention Pfizer's side effects but never the Moderna vaccine side effects.
Bingo.
Why? J&J is an ad26 vector-based vaccine. Moderna and Pfizer are mRNA gene therapies.
But they both create spike proteins, which is the real pathogen.
The spike protein is bad enough.
But the mRNA gene modification changes a person forever.
And the hyrdrogel could be a platform for something even more sinister...
Something sinister like this?
https://www.golokaproject.org/documentfiles/Analysis-of-test-sticks-from-surface-testing-in-the-Slovak-Republic.pdf
Firstly, why do you now trust the CDC when it confirms your bias? That makes zero sense.
Secondly, don't you find it odd that the majority of deaths mentioned on VAERS are Pfizer patients or Moderna and not J&J, yet J&J and AZ-O are the ones being targeted as "very bad, not good" by various governments?
Don't you find it odd that those two latter ones are AD26/ChAdOx1 vector-based vaccines and the former are new, untested, unverified mRNA gene therapies?
Don't you find that strange?
It's all good and well to use information for research, but question why, how and the quality of the information that's being put out there and match it up to other known information.
I don't think they are trusting them just making note of the mention, we all know there have been WELL over 5K in deaths from their human experimentation.
To add to this, fewer than 1% of vaccine injuries are ever reported. So this number is likely much larger.
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/rfk-jr-david-kessler-covid-vaccine-vaers/
the argument is that adverse affects aren't as reported as frequently as death so that the death number is closer to accurate. I.e, a bad cough is easier not to report than someone dying.
Which could be true. But we live in a time of total deceit under an illegal coup supported by a supplicant media. So I would venture ALL injuries, from mild to death, are ALL under-reported.
Genuinely curious, what makes you say this?
The only person I know that died from the china virus was shortly after her second jab. No mention of it having any roll in her death. Surely it was just a coincidence, and don't you dare ask any questions that might dissuade anyone else from getting the jab!
Not even remotely close to 5k.
This is not about trusting the CDC. This is simply highlighting that the CDC are finally being forced to acknowledge the data.
Of course, the true death totals are significantly higher that what the VAERS reporting system has logged. Look at the sudden unexpected death figures (up from approx 2,000 per month to 5-6,000 per month since the WuFlu vaccine began), so yes, the VAERS system is under-reporting the true death figure from the vaccines.
But again, this isn't about trusting the liars at the CDC. OP's post is simply about highlighting that the CDC are being forced to acknowledge the data.
Heck YEAH it’s “strange”. More sinistry.
.0017%, so it is a movie lol. I continue to pray. I’m ready for the credits.
Whoa I overlooked that. Crazy number for it to be...
The mystery of the Quotient.
HQ and ivermectin killed how many ? Saved how many ? What a fk nightmare and the idiots are now dragging their children for the jab.. for a Flu that is treatable. Same amount died of flu last year before COVID hit the streets. 25 people died from the sars vaccine and they pulled it .my God ...
A flu that is treatable, and also a flu that doesn't affect children anyway (99.998% recovery rate in 0-20 year olds, and the 0.002% who don't recover have on average 3.8 other comorbities, i.e. they tested positive for the WuFlu but that didn't kill them).
As if I trust their numbers... GIGO Garbage In Garbage Out
They state doses to death ratio. Trying to minimize death rate when most of the vaccines use two doses. Always trying to tip the scales
The open question is what percentage of issues are getting to VAERS, and from everything I've seen it's just completely unknown.
Given how much bulk vaccination has occurred we will hopefully get some good data before this accursed thing coasts through approval.
Knowing how accurate they were reporting the Covid numbers, want to bet the 285 million doses is much, much smaller. What they are probably trying to hide is the death numbers, as a percentage, are much larger.
Excellent point.
Looks like it won't be long before it'll be twice the number of people killed in 9/11
Never forget (the dancers)
Infografic version of the same info plus over time updates. https://greatawakening.win/p/12ih9lqoMf/one-week-of-extra-input-data-lot/c/
If you include the miscarriages and the “life threatening” it’s almost 10k
More people died from the covid vaccine - even according to the government's bullshit numbers - than 9/11.
I just want to go on record that I think we should not assume invading some shithole in the middle east will provide a solution. Maybe we should try something else.
Why does nobody understand VAERS on this site? Are y'all being willfully ignorant because it fits your worldview?
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The number is most probably under reported because don’t you always hear that “they aren’t sure“ if death or reactions are vaccine related?
No, the 5k number includes all deaths, whether the medical professional thought they were from the vaccine or not, they are told to report them regardless.
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The CDC isn't admitting that a single death reported had anything but coincidence to do with a vaccine. It's actually saying the opposite. It states
" A review of available clinical information, including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records has not established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines."
Because this is the truth. Anyone can report to VAERS, and medical professionals are encouraged to report any reactions, whether they believe it to be from the vaccine or not. The MAJORITY of vaers deaths are entirely unrelated to the vaccine and would be there even if it was tracking a placebo.
285 million ADMINISTERED in USA? Uummm...NOT. 285M/330M = 86%. (gtfo). I’ve been tracking VAERS vaxx deaths, & right now it says “4406” since 5/21. CDC is BUNK, nothing new there. It's overdue for an update, they’ve been updating weekly fyi. As we all also know, the J&J was the ONLY TRUE VAXX, hence bad press & withdrawal. Probably the only one that’s not toxic(?)! Other pede’s (below & elsewhere) know more than me; just sayin?
https://medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php?EVENTS=on&PAGENO=1&PERPAGE=10&ESORT=VAX-DATE&REVERSESORT=&VAX=(COVID19)&DIED=Yes
With the exception of J&J the other vaccines are two doses. 52% have received at least one does and 42% are fully vaccinated. That 42% includes all those that received 2 doses or one does of the J&J.
Nonsense, the vax isn't killing anyone, you're just believing fake news.
--Vax shills in our midst
285 million doses? BULL SHIT
How many of them have died?
That's good
Why would anyone believe any numbers they put out? I hear what you’re saying but all the sudden they’re telling the truth about covid? They’re no longer lying to us?
It's probably just manipulation. "Hey, 86% percent of the population got vaccinated so you might as well get one too. No big deal."
They aren't admitting anything. Read the site; "Over 285 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States. During this time, VAERS received 4,863 reports of death (0.0017%) A review of available clinical information, has not established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines. However, recent reports indicate a plausible causal relationship between the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine and a rare and serious adverse event blood clots which has caused deaths."
"admit" and "updated"
No. Be informed, that shit been there. You're the one who's late to the party
And that's just in the beginning.
Is that not the same chance percentage of the possibility of you dying from Covid?
Maybe they should check for low platelets before injecting
Seriously click the link. It’s good stuff. They have a enormous page devoted to all the horrible ways this vaccine could kill you. But it’s totally safe guys.
You're right!!! LOL.
CDC:
Also CDC:
J&j?!?! Moderna has the highest death rate! Why they attacking the only one thats not mrna?!
the real number is AT LEAST twice that.
Just an FYI... if you double their number then the death rate would be 0.0034%
Holy shit another person who doesn't understand VAERS and uses it to fear monger. Of the 5k deaths reported to VAERS, only a tiny fraction are actually from the vaccine. Why do you insist on spreading covidian-like fear using false info?