Why is common sense always thrown out the window in politics? A fraudulent slate of electors does not need to be recalled. Once fraud is proven and the fraudulent election certification is decertified those electors no longer exist. They never existed. Nothing that happened because fraud was committed is real in a legal sense.
The electorate was defrauded and denied the electors they legally selected. When the correct results are certified those electors are the only, real electors that ever existed.
Well, if you believe they have a luciferian doctrine which includes a “schedule”...it’s for KEEPS this time. I don’t even think future elections are in their playbook. They fear being OUTED, therefore “Qanon” is a threat cuz we’re the autists.
50-70% of the country get it, the rest have no idea. Zero. Zilch. They watch TV.
“Soon” … “just wait and see” … “the best is yet to come” … <checks watch>
Sounds like the 4-5 swing state audits(that haven’t even started, btw) should be wrapped up around mid-2023. But I am not voting in another election until 2020 is rectified, so where does that leave me ?
The same boat as me. The "let's wait and see what happens by midterms" category. I have a hard time believing that a simple audit is going to be the one that brings it all down. I do not believe that the plan's culmination is just that. Probably some crazy shit will happen when the audits either fail, or alongside the audits if they are successful, in order to seal the deal and expose everything. That's my own crackpot theory. It's like watching a spy thriller action flick and it just ends with a courtroom scene. No way that is how it all goes down, lol.
Government didn't go to far. We let them do what they wanted because we fail to understand who holds the real.power. also, you have always lived under that monarchy, from 1887 on when Alexander Levine Aka Hamilton put us in contract with deep state banks from the get go.
Is decertification different from recalling electors? Truly asking. Read Epoch Times interview yesterday with AZ senate president who said they can not recall electors. Can AZ decertify without recalling the electors? I truly hope they can find a way.
This is a great question I have been wondering myself.
Logic (to me) would dictate that if you are 'elected', and the contest that got you 'elected' is vitiated (declared fraudulent by the Courts), then isn't your occupation of said office ALSO fraudulent, and voided?
No such thing as an honest law fag. All legalese is fictionaL language. If we do not grasp that difference we won't stay out of the shit. The current Bar must go and that occupation we call lawyer must be dismantled and changed. We can be our own counsel MD we can donit well with out entering the queens court that we mistakenly think is our judicial system. It's a collection trough for the Queen.
Each candidate for POTUS chooses a set of Electors that will vote if that candidate wins that state
"Biden" and Trump each had their own set of Electors
Once it is determined that the wrong set of Electors voted in December, then those votes would be nullified
If the correct set of Electors voted, their votes would be counted instead -- which is why Trump's Electors held their own votes around that time ("just in case")
If the correct set of Electors did not vote, then I don't know if they could vote later, but it would only seem proper to do so
So, either Trump's Electors' votes count, which changes the Electoral College vote, or if not then there would be no majority (270+) for either candidate, in which case the vote would go to the House of Represenatives
The House would vote in such a manner that there would be 1 vote per state (not 1 vote per member)
The R's have a majority of states, but that is not to say that the RINOs wouldn't try to screw it up
Because Pence must have known this prior to Jan 6th, and did not attempt to clarify and correct it, maybe he will be the first major arrest. Even if Pence were to claim he didn't know or understand, that would be irrelevant. He should have known. After all, "ignorance of the law is no excuse," and that goes double for someone sworn to uphold it.
I think with what u explained they just deliver the votes from the electors that trump picked since they should have voted in the first place. How hard could this be? Oops wrong electors voted we will tale the votes of the proper electors, send those back to tjr state for certification and use the results to install Trump as the rightful winner. Also his time starts over.
Yes, except his time does not start over. The day that POTUS takes office and the day his term ends are defined in the Constitution.
I hate to say this, but this could get dragged out until late January 2023. If Trump serves less than 1/2 of a term, he would be eligible for a 3rd term, but not if he serves more than 1/2 of his 2nd term.
Truth. Just because they have no twisted mechanism for something to happen doesn't mean we can't pick the best course and take it. There is always a first time.
Here is the problem. The constitution has no policy for a fraudulently “elected” president. None. Now that his term is up, Trump is in terms of presidential succession a plain old ordinary nothing special citizen, just like you or I. Even if we are able to prove fraud, he is not going to be reinstated; rather Pelosi would become president. I don’t know about you, and it pains me to even type this, but I would rather have Biden than Pelosi. The one and only way Trump returns to office is winning in 2024, believing otherwise is giving ourselves false hope. I hate it, you hate it, but I refuse to sit here and believe these false hoods. I see so many of my fellow patriots continually strung alone on false hope which will hurt us more in the long run and disappointment after disappointment will push ppl away from the movement. We have already seen promises that he will be back in January, then March, then June, and now August. However months keep passing with nothing happens besides goal posts being moved. I would be willing to bet that come august, the goal posts will simply be moved to October, and come October to December. I mentally cannot out myself through that for the next 3.5 years, it will destroy me.
I'm glad you said this, because I was certainly about to. If Trump won, why would he not be reinstated via legal means? Maybe I'm still asleep but that line of thinking just confuses me.
PatriotFL1978’s cocksure cockamamie legal logic sounds like it was conjured up by the fact-checking truth tellers that run Maricopa County’s Twitter account.
He 100% won the election, but he didn’t “win” the election is my point. When I say he is a plain old citizen, what I mean is he is not in the line of succession any more than you or I. When I president is impeached or otherwise removed, the seat doesn’t go to the runner up (even if the runner up won), it’s goes to the VP, then the majority speaker of the senate. On the flip side, we have never seen anything like this before so I may be wrong. The fact of the matter is there is zero precedence for what happens when a president is fraudulently elected like Biden was. I just know I personally got caught up in the January 20th hope, the March hope, and then the June hope and I’m done. It drains me mentally and makes me question the plan. Wood is compromised legally speaking, Powell is facing her own problems, Rudy is temporarily disbarred, and Mike Lindell keeps saying he has proof and releasing nothing. I have hope in the Arizona audit, but I’m not letting myself put the horse in front of the carriage bc I can’t handle another deep state win.
It makes the fraud not just a domestic constitutional matter. It makes it an act of war. This is bigger than the constitution, by a lot. The ballots and audits are only one facet of this puzzle. They needed the sloppy ballots to make up for the huge numbers of Biden votes being created by the algorithm and foreign cyberwar.
What court system would handle court cases with the deepest darkest secrets of American espionage? Details of how they used these algorithms all over the world, for decades?
Gotta be two separate court battles occurring now. One we can see, and one we can’t see and may never see. This is much bigger than the Supreme Court and the constitution. This is hundreds of thousands of voting machines over decades in multiple countries. This is going to make fraudulent the last handful of presidents and congress. Everything is fraudulent. And it has been since Bush1 at least.
Sydney Powell is around for a reason. Military judicial system.
Trump has been extended under the national e.ergency and insurrection act by the military. The military being the only way. He is still recognized as president by them. The jcs don't count as they are only advisors.
I have to agree. The only way Trump will be President again before 2024 is if a purged GOP regains control of both Houses of Congress in 2022 and Trump is elected Speaker and Biden/Harris are impeached. That may be the plan but while I expect the GOP to regain both Houses I don't think they will get enough Senate seats to impeach. Time will tell. The military are not going to remove the illegitimate regime that occupies the WH in the meantime. If our Republic is not restored in 2022 or certainly by 2024 then I expect an eventual splintering of the nation into two or more entities. Maybe that is the Demomarxist/Globalist plan.
He's wrong. And someone should tell Bizarro-World Learned Hand over there that his "will of the people" comment is particularly retarded, as the Constitution provides that the states choose the presidential electors, not the people. You do not have a cxnl right to vote for president. Your state legislature could allocate their electoral votes by flipping a coin, if they so-desired.
Now heres the problem. If the corruption truly goes to this level, what hope do you have at actually getting it decertified? The people you're going against do not have morals, they do not care about the law, they do not care for standard practice, to them the ends justify the means.
Decertified?? We need mass arrests and a complete reset to our God given rights. Our next Pres should be president #1, kicking off the golden years of humanity without the cabal pulling strings from the shadows.
You would think this is common sense. If course if you gain something fraudulently it can be taken away. Even things where no one maliciously or purposely did anything illegal, you still can't keep what isn't yours. Look up news stories where banks accidentally put money in someone's account. You can be damn sure they're getting their money back and if you spent some of it they'll go after anything you own.
Fraud vitiates everything. Seems to me just one indication a fraud cancel the entire election. I am talking about deliberate fraud and I am talking about the entire country. To me that is common sense
Why is common sense always thrown out the window in politics? A fraudulent slate of electors does not need to be recalled. Once fraud is proven and the fraudulent election certification is decertified those electors no longer exist. They never existed. Nothing that happened because fraud was committed is real in a legal sense.
The electorate was defrauded and denied the electors they legally selected. When the correct results are certified those electors are the only, real electors that ever existed.
there it is boiz, common sense
You don't get to keep stolen property.
Perfectly concise breakdown. Well spoken, pede.
Well put! Thank you 🙏
Just know one thing; the DS will NEVER relinquish control back to Trump. Military is only, final option.
Nobody expects them to relinquish anything. We are taking it back.
I hear you IN STEREO. Just looking at it from THEIR perspective.
Let me get the pop corn going
Well, if you believe they have a luciferian doctrine which includes a “schedule”...it’s for KEEPS this time. I don’t even think future elections are in their playbook. They fear being OUTED, therefore “Qanon” is a threat cuz we’re the autists.
LOL! Does that also make us anons... (wait for it)... the "Outists"?
Aaahhhh...😆
50-70% of the country get it, the rest have no idea. Zero. Zilch. They watch TV.
“Soon” … “just wait and see” … “the best is yet to come” … <checks watch>
Sounds like the 4-5 swing state audits(that haven’t even started, btw) should be wrapped up around mid-2023. But I am not voting in another election until 2020 is rectified, so where does that leave me ?
The same boat as me. The "let's wait and see what happens by midterms" category. I have a hard time believing that a simple audit is going to be the one that brings it all down. I do not believe that the plan's culmination is just that. Probably some crazy shit will happen when the audits either fail, or alongside the audits if they are successful, in order to seal the deal and expose everything. That's my own crackpot theory. It's like watching a spy thriller action flick and it just ends with a courtroom scene. No way that is how it all goes down, lol.
Government didn't go to far. We let them do what they wanted because we fail to understand who holds the real.power. also, you have always lived under that monarchy, from 1887 on when Alexander Levine Aka Hamilton put us in contract with deep state banks from the get go.
Uh, what?? Alexander Levine aka Hamilton in 1887? Huh?
Is decertification different from recalling electors? Truly asking. Read Epoch Times interview yesterday with AZ senate president who said they can not recall electors. Can AZ decertify without recalling the electors? I truly hope they can find a way.
^^^ THIS ^^^
This is a great question I have been wondering myself.
Logic (to me) would dictate that if you are 'elected', and the contest that got you 'elected' is vitiated (declared fraudulent by the Courts), then isn't your occupation of said office ALSO fraudulent, and voided?
Man we could use an honest Lawfag right now.
Yeah that's what our founding fathers said... "we could use an honest lawfag right now"
Our court system is compromised.
No such thing as an honest law fag. All legalese is fictionaL language. If we do not grasp that difference we won't stay out of the shit. The current Bar must go and that occupation we call lawyer must be dismantled and changed. We can be our own counsel MD we can donit well with out entering the queens court that we mistakenly think is our judicial system. It's a collection trough for the Queen.
False. There plenty of lawyers fighting everyday to uphold our freedoms and the Constitution. Don’t throw the baby out with the bath water.
My understanding is this:
Because Pence must have known this prior to Jan 6th, and did not attempt to clarify and correct it, maybe he will be the first major arrest. Even if Pence were to claim he didn't know or understand, that would be irrelevant. He should have known. After all, "ignorance of the law is no excuse," and that goes double for someone sworn to uphold it.
I think with what u explained they just deliver the votes from the electors that trump picked since they should have voted in the first place. How hard could this be? Oops wrong electors voted we will tale the votes of the proper electors, send those back to tjr state for certification and use the results to install Trump as the rightful winner. Also his time starts over.
Yes, except his time does not start over. The day that POTUS takes office and the day his term ends are defined in the Constitution.
I hate to say this, but this could get dragged out until late January 2023. If Trump serves less than 1/2 of a term, he would be eligible for a 3rd term, but not if he serves more than 1/2 of his 2nd term.
I honestly don't think our nation can survive that long. :-(
Truth. Just because they have no twisted mechanism for something to happen doesn't mean we can't pick the best course and take it. There is always a first time.
What is now being done was once never done before.
Only never done before once?
Fraud vitiates everything.
Leave it to the Deepstate to say....Well YOU caught us cheating...BUT it is against the rules to Replace us...
Here is the problem. The constitution has no policy for a fraudulently “elected” president. None. Now that his term is up, Trump is in terms of presidential succession a plain old ordinary nothing special citizen, just like you or I. Even if we are able to prove fraud, he is not going to be reinstated; rather Pelosi would become president. I don’t know about you, and it pains me to even type this, but I would rather have Biden than Pelosi. The one and only way Trump returns to office is winning in 2024, believing otherwise is giving ourselves false hope. I hate it, you hate it, but I refuse to sit here and believe these false hoods. I see so many of my fellow patriots continually strung alone on false hope which will hurt us more in the long run and disappointment after disappointment will push ppl away from the movement. We have already seen promises that he will be back in January, then March, then June, and now August. However months keep passing with nothing happens besides goal posts being moved. I would be willing to bet that come august, the goal posts will simply be moved to October, and come October to December. I mentally cannot out myself through that for the next 3.5 years, it will destroy me.
Yeah, I don't think so.
Trump is NOT a 'plain old ordinary nothing-special citizen'.
He WON the election.
And THAT is why he has a legal claim to the Presidency.
I'm glad you said this, because I was certainly about to. If Trump won, why would he not be reinstated via legal means? Maybe I'm still asleep but that line of thinking just confuses me.
Seriously.
PatriotFL1978’s cocksure cockamamie legal logic sounds like it was conjured up by the fact-checking truth tellers that run Maricopa County’s Twitter account.
He 100% won the election, but he didn’t “win” the election is my point. When I say he is a plain old citizen, what I mean is he is not in the line of succession any more than you or I. When I president is impeached or otherwise removed, the seat doesn’t go to the runner up (even if the runner up won), it’s goes to the VP, then the majority speaker of the senate. On the flip side, we have never seen anything like this before so I may be wrong. The fact of the matter is there is zero precedence for what happens when a president is fraudulently elected like Biden was. I just know I personally got caught up in the January 20th hope, the March hope, and then the June hope and I’m done. It drains me mentally and makes me question the plan. Wood is compromised legally speaking, Powell is facing her own problems, Rudy is temporarily disbarred, and Mike Lindell keeps saying he has proof and releasing nothing. I have hope in the Arizona audit, but I’m not letting myself put the horse in front of the carriage bc I can’t handle another deep state win.
This is not a 'line of succession' thing, this is a 'winner of the election' thing.
The fraudulent winner does not get 'impeached', because he is not the President. Instead he gets removed.
Trump is not the 'runner up', he is the winner.
The true winner becomes President.
We do not make up new rules simply because one side cheated.
Foreign interference is the wild card.
It makes the fraud not just a domestic constitutional matter. It makes it an act of war. This is bigger than the constitution, by a lot. The ballots and audits are only one facet of this puzzle. They needed the sloppy ballots to make up for the huge numbers of Biden votes being created by the algorithm and foreign cyberwar.
What court system would handle court cases with the deepest darkest secrets of American espionage? Details of how they used these algorithms all over the world, for decades?
Gotta be two separate court battles occurring now. One we can see, and one we can’t see and may never see. This is much bigger than the Supreme Court and the constitution. This is hundreds of thousands of voting machines over decades in multiple countries. This is going to make fraudulent the last handful of presidents and congress. Everything is fraudulent. And it has been since Bush1 at least.
Sydney Powell is around for a reason. Military judicial system.
Right it makes it a national security issue.
Trump has been extended under the national e.ergency and insurrection act by the military. The military being the only way. He is still recognized as president by them. The jcs don't count as they are only advisors.
I have to agree. The only way Trump will be President again before 2024 is if a purged GOP regains control of both Houses of Congress in 2022 and Trump is elected Speaker and Biden/Harris are impeached. That may be the plan but while I expect the GOP to regain both Houses I don't think they will get enough Senate seats to impeach. Time will tell. The military are not going to remove the illegitimate regime that occupies the WH in the meantime. If our Republic is not restored in 2022 or certainly by 2024 then I expect an eventual splintering of the nation into two or more entities. Maybe that is the Demomarxist/Globalist plan.
So, the fact that Trump WON has no effect?
By your logic, all the other side has to do is cheat, because even if the cheating is discovered and proven, the true winner can never be installed.
Take a step back and think about it.
We've been told it's the military so it won't matter what happens in the house and senate
Think of this scenario: What if Trump is still our legitimate President?
I have to agree with this.
Both my senators argued that it was certified and it was a done deal. But some quick research showed that fraud upends that argument fast.
He's wrong. And someone should tell Bizarro-World Learned Hand over there that his "will of the people" comment is particularly retarded, as the Constitution provides that the states choose the presidential electors, not the people. You do not have a cxnl right to vote for president. Your state legislature could allocate their electoral votes by flipping a coin, if they so-desired.
I guess we wont know if it can or cant until its actually done.
Now heres the problem. If the corruption truly goes to this level, what hope do you have at actually getting it decertified? The people you're going against do not have morals, they do not care about the law, they do not care for standard practice, to them the ends justify the means.
UNITED STATES v. THROCKMORTON. 98 U.S. 61 (1878) 25 L.Ed. 93 UNITED STATES v. THROCKMORTON.
Fraud vitiates everything it touches. Nudd v. Burrows (1875) 91 U.S. 416. Fraud destroys the validity of everything into which it enters.
Boyce’s Executors v. Grundy (1830) 28 U.S. 210. Fraud vitiates the most solemn contracts, documents and even judgments
Decertified?? We need mass arrests and a complete reset to our God given rights. Our next Pres should be president #1, kicking off the golden years of humanity without the cabal pulling strings from the shadows.
Common parse syntaxes grammar and factual language will destroy the Bar. They do not try facts or law in court. That means they only try fiction.
You would think this is common sense. If course if you gain something fraudulently it can be taken away. Even things where no one maliciously or purposely did anything illegal, you still can't keep what isn't yours. Look up news stories where banks accidentally put money in someone's account. You can be damn sure they're getting their money back and if you spent some of it they'll go after anything you own.
Our country needs its own way to license attorneys, not this British title garbage.
That Barnes guy on youtube still saying that the election cannot be decertified. That pro-Israel shill.
Fraud vitiates everything. Seems to me just one indication a fraud cancel the entire election. I am talking about deliberate fraud and I am talking about the entire country. To me that is common sense