We're in the shit hole known as Brooklyn, NY. She got the "mandate" from her job, and instead of talking about what to do, she's folding like a cheap suit and is gonna get the goddamn shot.
Hell, she was all gung-ho initially when she got the memo. I told her don't give it, let them fire you then you sue them and win and you can retire (because she's already 67). But no, without even talking to me about any dangers, she's decided she's going to get it.
I've been sick of her retarded, narcissistic, idiotic bullshit for 30 years. I swear, she sometimes seems like she has the IQ of a fucking rock.
But goddamnit, why the fuck can't she just talk to me about it?
Why would she talk to you about it? You called her an idiot 2 times in the post and title.
“I’ve been sick of her retarded bullshit for 30 years WhY wOnT sHe TaLk To Me?!”
I have people skills; I am good at dealing with people. Can't you understand that? What the hell is wrong with you people?
Listen to the advice I'm giving you you fat stupid fuckface I hate you just hear me out.
This is how it's done. I'm listening.
Hypnotism works for some people too. That doesn’t mean it’s a good way of convincing someone of your argument
Restarting Keto diet now...tomorrow
lmao, office space
"Do you think I am living in this basement for MYSELF? NO I am living here to help YOU, because you're obviously too stupid to take care of yourself!"
She's a narcissist. She can make conversations circle back to her.
"She can make conversations circle back to her." So she is female?
Ahaha this
Its the ovaries
The question they’re asking is why would she listen to you if you seem to openly insult her and despise her?
I don't talk to her like that, but she's a damn idiot.
You clearly hold contempt for her. It’s hard to imagine the conversations you have for her are very cordial.
He's venting to us. In New York, people are a lot more expressive with their frustrations.
It's not a hard concept to get. Show some empathy.
Lol New York isn’t some special place where people express emotions. I understand what venting is.
But when I vent I don’t have so much vitriol and animosity as he does
That's because you're not from New York, you're from a different type of American culture, in which you express yourself differently.
Take a step back and recognize these types of cultural differences exist all across the US, amongst its different regions.
Now imagine if we cant get this right, imagine how nontransparent other issues are.
They're very cordial. I've said multiple times on this thread that I keep everything bottled inside.
My dad passed early January last year from a stroke that nuked his brain; my uncle and sister already got their clot shots and they're doing okay for now. Do you think I want another family member to potentially cut their life short? They're the only family I talk to.
Why do you believe the vax will cut their life short when the vast majority of people who have gotten it have had mild side effects, including your uncle and sister?
Have you not seen the many, many threads about what the death serum is doing to people?
Honor thy mother and father. I never read a disclaimer in the bible that said “unless they dumb”
Tell her to make sure she leaves a will.
Nah dude, there's nothing. She gambled away everything we had over 20 years ago. My mom is one of those people that never should have had children.
Then good for you to still have concerns.
When's she getting the booster? My mom got the 3rd. She will be first in line to get 4th thru 17th booster
My mother got both jabs too and then got Covid a month later. You can't make this shit up. Then she drove my dad crazy and got him to get the shots and he's never been the same. They tried to say he now has "long term Covid effects" I can hardly take this shit at this point.
Do you still live with your mom and depend on her resources? So she gambled away your money too, because it’s a household income?
Yes it’s time to get independent if that’s the case. She should take some fish oil because that thins the blood gently and will help with lowering inflammation that is the problem with the jab. Detox helps also, like activated charcoal. Good luck to you and your mom.
This is when I was a kid, culminating when I was 16. My dad estimated she wasted around $500,000. That was back when the stock market was the stock market.
She doesn't owe you any type of inheritance. Period! And the way you speak of her, and probably to her, you don't deserve anything. GROW UP!
I've said before that I don't speak to her that way. I wasn't the one to bring up anything relating to an inheritance. There's nothing at all, and there hasn't been anything. Did you miss the part where I said she wasted half a million dollars?
Where are the stories of life insurance being in invalidated ? Haven’t read one. Insurance is a scam, just like big Pharma, and they are in bed together. So of course they are gonna pay those life insurance claims. IF there were rashes of these cases, AND the media reported it, some people MAY wake up.
In that case there has been a lot of disinfo spread on Voat, and possibly here as well, if I remember right. Thanks for correcting me.
Vaxxed people can def still donate blood and organs. Also life insurance wouldn’t be invalidated. I think you need to check your facts
In that case there has been a lot of disinfo spread on Voat, and possibly here as well, if I remember right. Thanks for correcting me.
No worries! Disinfo is everywhere. It's good to trust the information you get, but always make sure you verify.
Hard to do as I'm in the UK and its getting increasingly more difficult to look things up - all you get are sites that sell stuff, even when you avoid Google. Always happy to be corrected by someone who knows better, that's the benefit of sharing info. :)
My MIL is a narcissist. She had heart surgery and my wife felt obligated to take care of her. She thought her mom was going to die within the year, but I cautioned her to be ready for her to live well into her 90s (she's in her 70s). We sold our house and purchased one in her neighborhood and moved her in with us. This was 5 years ago.
2 vaccines and a booster shot and a steady diet of CNN 24/7 and the woman is still alive and kicking.
I've bitten my tongue for most of the 5 years but I lost control and blew up on her when she tried to tell me she didn't us to switch our mobile plan to a third party carrier that piggybacks off the Verizon network because they didn't have a customer service telephone number.
I was explaining to my wife why I wanted to switch to that service and why it was cheaper (no customer service telephone number) and she decided to interject herself into the conversation and try to take control of the decision. Never mind the fact we were paying for her phone (and my mom's phone) and I work in IT and handle any technical issues that come up.
I tried to brush her off but she wouldn't shut up and I ended up going off after she insulted my family (she doesn't even know them really) and said I had a "poverty mentality" because I wanted to lower our phone bill. I didn't hold back and I let 5 years of pent up frustration out on her, destroying any illusions she may have had of my real opinions of her. I may have even called her a brainwashed communist.
I shouldn't have done it, to be honest, but I've never been more at peace in the aftermath.
Why?
She is now giving me the "silent treatment" and actually believes it's some sort of punishment. That's narcissism in a nut shell right there.
The funny thing is she thinks she's found my buttons now, but it won't even phase me if she goes there again.
We've said very little to each other for the past couple months and she's been holing up in her room until just recently. Part of that is I believe she is honestly afraid of me because I'm unvaccinated and CNN has been warning her about me.
Maybe you should try pushing her buttons about that. Loom over her saying the big bad cold is gonna get her in her sleep.
Honestly, I'm enjoying the silent treatment and have been doing my best to keep her in that mode.
Last thing I want to do is feed her with the negative attention she's craving.
If she speaks to me (only if she needs something), I respond, and leave it at that.
That's what my sister does. She used to argue with our sick dad - sick as in PD dialysis, heart valves replaced, blood pressure problems, multiple strokes, and she still kept pushing. I got to a point in my childhood that I just didn't like her. I'm cordial but still don't like her.
Wow. Great info Tendie! I lost abdear friend to overdose...years of battling addiction--and fighting/surviving a narcissistic mom. Didn't know any of this at the time...May my friend rest in peace and find the true love she never had growing up...I wish I knew then what I know now...
Sounds like you've either had to live through it, or have loved ones/been in support groups like you said. Yeah, it's fucking rough. It was both of my parents. I think they may have also switched between narc and enabler. They're the type of people that never should have married anybody, let alone have kids.
I just want to tell you- this post was so encouraging to me. I just wrote my in-laws a letter purging them permanently from my life after 25 years. If I tried to write out the mental and emotional anguish over the years it would turn into countless pages... and the worst part is they are covert narcs... but they finally showed their hand and I, guilt free, had the goods to call them on the mat. I haven't even processed the release of stress and the weight coming off of me. It is my guess it may take months to fully step into the glorious remainder of my life with them out of it. I'm so grateful to be free.
You clearly have experience in this. I can tell by what you wrote. You can try to be authentic and clear with my in-laws all day long; but at the end of the day their narcissistic family system is to rule. They will weigh their next countermeasure as if we are in a long drawn out game of war. It got to a point where I could recognize who was pulling the strings between each of them depending on the passive aggressive behavior. What's really sad is that only a couple of years into the marriage they had done so many terrible things that it felt like my ability to feel any affection for them was burnt out and I was constantly cynical and on guard--- watching and analyzing. In the long run what I have left to grieve is how many resources they burnt up (with me having to deal with their bullshit and the trauma that they put my husband through causing him to go through addiction and recovery... not to mention the toll it took on me)........ and the fact that I think I actually started viewing other people more suspiciously and cynically... always watching to see when people's angle or their true face would show. That's definitely what I need to work to heal--- to be able to genuinely think that other people can be sincere and loving again.
You have to accept that they have brainwashed a few generations so well that something deep inside is compelling them to do this. They are literally controlled by thoughts that aren't theirs and they are at the mercy of their brains. It's a tragic thing and I am going through something similar. They got it recently because they wanted to travel. Too bad the countries they want to go to are locked down again and don't give a shit about them. I'm sorry, hopefully they get a placebo or something that won't make them sick. It's frustrating that with all the study and information we give them that the programming always wins.
My sister is worse off. I told her something like Airborne would help her immune system, since it's mostly vitamin C and has some vitamin D and zinc, and because it's really easy. But no, she went into cunt mode and said "or a healthier diet and exercise will do it," as if that's a magic catch-all for everything, as if everybody has the capability. She's very passive/aggressive, and turns on cunt-mode on a dime, just like our dad did.
They both make me want to go no contact in the future. Dealing with them is so draining.
A healthy diet and exercise is actually good advice. Increased blood flow is how our immune system is able to function properly.
So both you and your sister are correct.
It is good advice, but nearly impossible to follow when you've been feeling like you're half dead for 20 years.
if they are bad for you and your family... it's ok to toss them out... you would do the same if they weren't family.... just because they are family does not give them the right to destroy yours. you protect yourself... REGARDLESS of who they are.
I always found the term 'TV Program".
Like one, who's the program - because everything else is just a choreographed show.
And now it's hitting me.
I pray peace over you on this situation. It’s not easy when you’re the only one that hasn’t caved.
She's an adult and can do what she wants is the way I look at it. I totally understand because I was in the same boat as you. I resigned myself to the fact I did all I could, I provided VERIFIABLE data on the jab and why it's bad, I screamed from the top of mountains but in the end it was to no avail. The MSM brainwashing was too great. Venting and being pissed here is a good thing. You''re in good company.
Yep. Mine did. Now she has bladder cancer. Won’t see me in case I give her COVID.
I went on and on about it. She called me a crazy conspiracy theorist, because the TV told her I was and stopped seeing me two years ago. I never saw her again.
Nothing more I can do.
I'm so sorry, fren. :(
so sorry for you.
Love your mom anyway. She’s an adult and has to live with her own decisions.
How did she make it this long? She doesn't seem to have much to lose, I'm surprised she folded - particularly with retirement as an option.
If it makes you feel any better OP, I received a vaccine mandate from my organization recently and I politely told them to eat a bag of dicks.
Abso-fucking-lutely. This alone is enough reason to run as far away as possible. I honestly can't believe this isn't the norm in human psychology. It amazes me that people can be advertised into compliance.
This is the biggest conundrum of the entire scam in my opinion. Why are they pushing so hard? Most countries have never had an issue with vaccine uptake. So why start with the propaganda and coercion now and risk awakening the population? It must go beyond the efficacy of a vaccine. It must be a trial for something worse they had planned - something the population wouldn't accept without demoralization.
All this time I just thought I was contrary and bloody-minded. Good to know there is a whole psychology I have. Nice.
Exactly! Reg flag central.
My idiot retarded mother got all three and a flu shot! Been in and out of the doctors office constantly since. Refuses to consider the vaccine as the cause.
Sorry to hear that.
soujnds to me like you love your Mom in spite of her selfish ways. Makes for a complicated relationship.
If she's truly a narcissist, she's never wrong and don't try to tell her she is (on stuff she cares anything about).
Oddly, as I read your post, I initially thought you can no more save someone hellbent on getting the shot than you can an addict from their vice.
and then there is the whole victim mindset... she will be "rescued" by the government and their doctors. until she realizes what they did.
Sorry to hear, fren.
It's ridiculous really. She essentially regurgitates what I say regarding the clot shot, covid itself, testing, whatever, and then she tells me she's gonna get it. I'm thinking, what the fuck? What the hell do I have to do to convince her not to get it? What do I need to tell or show her? It's fucking depressing.
I don't know if this helps or not, but there was this day it hit me. I realized my sister was full on crazy (15 years ago). The evidence was there for years, but I just couldn't really wrap my head around the level of irrational thought to make her truth "true."
I was working as an LMHC in a psych ward for about a year and it hit me like a ton of bricks. Only the worst of my patients sounded like her. Most of them were much more sane and open to rational thinking.
Who knows if she's exercising her autonomy, going along to get along (which is what it sounds like), or something else. But if you've shown her all the facts, you've asked her not to risk it, and she's determined..... you can't save her.
Prayers friend. It's between her and God what she does with the gift of life he gave her.
Because she's weak and ashamed. To her the anxiety of confrontation at work/MSM fearporn outweighed the shame of facing you.
With some people you are unable to change their mind. Some of my siblings insisted on getting the vax and I told them my opinion and they still got it. They are adults and can do what they want. But they may face the eventual doom that comes with it. I just won't be as heartbroken if a bad thing happens to them, because I'm kind of already expecting it to happen.
We can't do shit about other's will.
Told my mother about many concerns over the coerced vax mandate. She said ok anon, what you're saying makes sense, but I don't care, I got my second jab and I'm fine and your sister is fine too.
It's sad man, it's sad that you can't fully wake up your loved ones, but in this shit we're living today we gotta take our OWN decisions and face our OWN consequences.
Ego is a big part of it.
They want to seem smarter than everyone else in the room and to virtue signal how important they are.
My idiot sister talked to my idiot daughter into getting it. I won't take your venting as an assumption that you talk to your mother like that all the time. For her own health I hope she reconsiders.
She doesn't talk to you about it because you don't tell her what she wants to hear. But I will tell you that the shot, resulting COVID, and hospital treatment killed my 94-year-old mom. She got the shots despite the entire family telling her not to because she was "afraid" of COVID. Unfortunately, as she found out, there are worse things than being afraid.
I gave up on mine a long ass time ago.
You're lucky, there are people that have bad reactions but still get the shots.
Let me give you a hug from a stranger who feels your exact same heartbreak. The people you love are dying before your very eyes.
You have to face it like I am, if she isn't convinced after 21 months then there's nothing you can do. I've been arguing with my mum and now, she's so stubborn and want to be right she's taking a third shot.
Ask her for a last video message that you can keep to remind you of her....
Just in case....!
Then let that sink in for her.....
WWG1WGA
IMO if anything has a chance of getting through to her it could be the info in this post by penisse:
https://greatawakening.win/p/140cNaq4en/steve-kirschs-vaccine-essentials/
When you click on the catbox link it brings up a 149 page PDF file that is extremely well laid out. Many of the pages have imbedded links directly to the source sauce. It's reads and feels like a tour de force on many fronts. Great information but also lots of effective visuals to add to the mental punch.
First you have to understand that a mother‘s job quite literally and explicitly is to drive her children absolutely bat shit insane.
No matter how crazy your mom makes YOU, it seems that there’s no shortage of other people that love her.
My mom is the same - taking all the shots and just got her booster, even though she got really super sick after one or maybe both of the first doses, and then again - of course- not surprisingly - got very sick after this booster too….
I don’t fucking know… I empathize with ya man…. 🤦🏻♂️🙄🤦🏻♂️😵🥺
Send her THIS: OXFORD STUDY SHOCKER: 1 in 100 Vaccinated Individuals Were Admitted to Hospital or Died with Arrhythmia During Study Period https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/12/oxford-study-shocker-1-100-vaccinated-individuals-admitted-hospital-died-arrhythmia-study-period/
Fine tune your attitude toward your mother. I know it's frustrating. But it's her free will. And if you talked to me like that my child of any age....your biggest fear wouldnt be the clot shot. Dont make her poison your food!
Because someone who would poison their child’s food is obviously worthy of respect just for being their “elder”.
Respect is earned.
I've been sick of her retarded, narcissistic, idiotic bullshit for 30 years. I swear, she sometimes seems like she has the IQ of a fucking rock.
WHAT!?!?
What the FUCK is wrong with you!?
My mother is like this. I'm sorry it fucking sucks.
I finally worked up the courage to cut her and ANYONE else who sided with her bullshit who was in my life, even other close family members some of whom were actually pretty nice to me, they just always sided with my narcissistic abusive mother.
What finally did it was when I realized this was MY fault. Not hers. I don't have to keep aweful people in my life. I have a responsibility to model how to maintain boundaries against shit people if I expect my country to do it with politicians, scammers, and fuckheads and pedophiles.
And if I'm not setting that strong boundary enough to protect me and those I love EVEN if I have to stop talking to "good people" ... it's my fault.
You can do it.
Maybe my solution isn't your solution. But you CAN find a solution for you that meets your principles and doesn't allow yourself to be hurt by her.
Kill her metaphorically as your mother in your mind. She's just a human.
Then love her as she is and for what she's done for you. Or make some decisions to put yourself in a place where you don't have to be a 30+ year old man who's "tired of their retarded, narcissistic mother".
.....
Or maybe you're just ranting because you're angry/sad in which case lol sorry for the unsolicited rant
Social Darwinism.
No mercy.
can confirm, some are braindead from long ago.
OP, if my Mom was still alive, she'd get it. I learned a lot time ago that once my Mom made up her mind, I had to let it go if I wanted a relationship with her.
I don't talk to her like that. I keep everything bottled inside, slowly rotting away at me.
If you've never had to deal with a narcissist, you just wouldn't know what it's like.
Good, hold the line.
Yeah, I agree with if people haven't had to deal with a narc before, they cannot imagine what it's like.
I say, because I'm dangerously out of shape, "my legs are shaking when I'm going down the stairs." "Oh yeah, how do you think I feel?"
If they've never had a person do that constantly, they don't know what it's like. Some bad emotional manipulation when I was a kid from both of them. "You're embarrassing your grandfather" when I was a kid playing baseball, with my dad as one of my "coaches."
If they have encountered something like that, but don't realize that it was some terrible abuse, then for them it's deep-seeded and they're better off for it.
I don't talk to her like that. I keep everything bottled up inside, letting it erode me emotionally. If you've never had to deal with a narcissist parent, let alone two, then quite frankly you have no idea the amount of damage they can do to you.
Most talk tough in the beginning, but most fold when the deadline comes.
I don't agree because most normies are not talking tough about experimental jab mandates.
If you see someone vocally against the experimental jabs they are going to hold the line.
I saw a comment saying if you get the Jab, you’re life insurance may be invalid. This is not correct. Life insurance companies can only decline to pay a death benefit because of a material misrepresentation of fact in the application in the first two years from the policy issue date. After two years, a life policy is incontestable for almost all fraud.
I saw this as well some time back, I believe it was in reference to life insurance paying if vaxxed complications came into it or un vaxxed complications were present, I didn’t research yet. This will start to be more pronounced when there is more exposed. I see this becoming more a settlement in the years to come like the insurance companies handle claims for asbestos, they group together to fight claims then settle with families to pay the minimum they can get away with these are really disgusting people.
Just curious, but 1. what about the case of suicide? 2. if a spouse takes out a life insurance policy, then kills the other spouse/has the spouse killed?
I feel like those would definitely cause a life insurance company to not pay out.
Suicide is actually covered a lot of time if you've been on the policy for longer than the like two years people mentioned about fraud. I'm not positive it's two years, but after you've had the policy for a while they do indeed cover suicide (usually).
You need to give her facts and appeal to her desire to listen to authority and people she doesn't know. Find stuff from Frontline Doctors to show her as facts.