Well, isn't this interesting! The question now becomes: was the initial release of COVID-19 planned or was it an accident? If an accident, then did it force the deep state's hand and rush their timeline even more than we thought?
Different problem. I've got connections to anesthesiologists who, for obvious reasons, took an interest in people coming in with their lungs destroyed. They were using THC in oil-based solvents and feeding that into the vape pens. The vape pens heat it to over 400°F, depending on the solvent used. Sometimes, the person would inhale before the heat could dissipate enough and the heat was transferred to the lung tissue, burning it from the inside. It was particularly bad with a Vitamin E-based solvent. Those are the ones who died.
Not related to COVID. It was related to "creative" morons who wanted to get high, thought they were being clever, but weren't as clever as they thought they were.
Pretty much. The hype and hysteria was largely manufactured with fake data. However, we have to remember the spike protein was a real problem. The fact that those vaccines are causing clots is real. The spike protein on the virus was too. Remember that 2/3 of people who died to COVID were killed by respiratory failure: pneumonia --> ARDS --> multi-organ failure and death. But the other 1/3 had microclots everywhere. The virus did do real damage. It wasn't just a harmless flu. Flu itself isn't harmless. It kills 10s of thousands every year.
All that said, it's crystal clear that the numbers were grossly inflated by everyone. Hospitals were overreporting for bigger reimbursement from CMS. Doctors were saying they were being told to falsely report COVID deaths on death certificates. State health boards and CDC were overcounting via a half a dozen mechanisms to inflate both case numbers and mortality figures. Remember CDC admitting its PCR test couldn't distinguish between COVID and flu? That's a problem. Remember CDC advising people not to use the PCR tests because of false positives? That's a problem. That's how we get this 80% asymptomatic lie and mask mandates.
I fought CV off after a day with a little help from what some Frontline Doctors recommended, BUT I realized that my sympoms (in particular the lung/chest pressure&pain) were not a normal variation of the flu. (Of note - caught it from vaccinated neighbor and then gave it to vaccinated friends.)
The worrying part was the loss of energy for over a month now, though it is almost gone.
This was a weaponized flu is my Strong Feeling/Thinking. Hope those people who created it are brought to justice.
Yes I had gotten a bad case last summer took the protocol which knocked everything out except the exhaustion. I have never felt that tired in my life. Sleeping the majority of the day only to turn around and go to bed and sleep all night. 3-4 weeks
I think there was something in it to create nerve damage of some sort. A few people who I know who had it had that. Just found out a neighbor had something bad with it and can’t get up the stairs months later too.
More importantly, if it was released in Sep 2019 and no one started dropping dead until Fauci got involved, was it really ever anything to worry about?
This is interesting because The Ottawa Citizen had an article in early January 2020 about the hospital morgue being so full that they were putting dead bodies into board rooms. I'll never forget reading it because it had a quote from an admin person who went to have a meeting and there were stretchers with full body bags on them.
I think this is the "dry tinder" effect where, because 2018 was such a mild flu season and there were less than usual deaths of the elderly, in late 2019/early 2020 more than average elderly people died, possibly of covid. 2020 still had no excess mortality compared to prior years, though.
It was an accident. The powers that be were just going to do what they have always done in the past with similar biological accidents, and not tell anyone about it. But a few Chinese doctors broke ranks with the establishment, and alerted the world to what happened, and the powers that be went with plan B- profit off of the accident, while never admitting to causing the accident.
We already figured out that China Virus came from a lab, but this story is far from over.
I am well familiar with the depopulation theories. If their goal was to release a deadly pathogen, they would have used something with a 90% kill rate, not a 0.3%. China Virus is the product of corporate greed, and human bumbling.
DARPA documents prove that they first attempted to get funding for their gain of function research in the USA, and were denied the funding due to the inherent danger associated with that type of research. So they outsourced the research to sub-standard facilities in China (and elsewhere) and a major accident happened, just like DARPA warned them about.
Is it really a depopulation theory when high level people influencing the world have outright stated many times various things in favor of depopulation?
The release from the lab, is what he means. We say that because we can't prove the release was deliberate. Lab safety protocols are often not followed nearly as well as they should be, so we assume negligence rather than maliciousness.
The fact that Fauci had commissioned the research and they made this thing was not an accident and he should be facing a jury and a rope for it.
This is a much less common notion that I haven't really heard tossed around or talked about much. It makes sense as the virus itself is not very deadly at least statistically and if they really wanted to release some deadly virus/pathogen, I'm sure we would see people actually dropping like flies like in the movie contagion or something. Valid point. As you've said, still much to unfold and hopefully we find out in due time
Fake news to reinforce the fake narrative that covid is real. It’s nothing more than the common flu rebranded with the name COVID. They simply changed the name. The Multimedia advertising campaign was a huge success.
It does seem that way, but I do wonder at times about some of the ongoing symptoms that seem to be worse for some people than the "usual flu" all the same. Multi media ad campaign=mass formation psychosis; also true!
People with reliable memory and has had past flu vs this flu can tell it's definitely worse than previous flus but nevertheless that's what it is - a slightly worse flu.
Do you actually know any people who have the ongoing symptoms etc. or was it just something you read on MSM? There seem to be so many people that discuss such things, but no one actually has any first-hand experience with it.
My FiL was really ill in December. Hospital said covid but he believes it was flu. He’s still feeling after effects now and it has hit him hard. He’s unjabbed and refused it afterwards - which shows how much the whole jab thing is ridiculous- if he’s just recovered from covid he’s got antibodies so why would he need a jab? He caught hell from MiL who believes everything g the TV says but he’s remained steadfast in his refusal.
I have an unjabbed friend (in his 40's) who got blood clots while he had covid, and is on blood thinners and can't work (landscaper) until after the summer. I have another friend (in her 30's), again unjabbed (although I don't know if that matters anymore), whose whole family had a head cold, she ended up in the hospital. She still has trouble, 3 months later, walking to the end of the driveway to get the mail. Another friend (in her 30's) who is still on oxygen after covid. I definitely think this is man made. All of them felt as if they were under attack when they were sick.
I don't follow MSM. Yes, actually I do know people. At least four people I'd say over the past two years. As well as having a physician friend who is treating many people and has observed that there seems to be a sort of "cycle" in which a person recovering from "covid" goes through various physical issues in different parts of the body for a number of months before it all clears up. He and his family had it very early on, having been on the east coast in early 2020, and also experienced this. He was one who began providing treatment earlier than the "experts" were recommending long ago, though I think he is still recommending the vax last time I spoke with him.
Sadly, I also know a number of people who have died "with covid" where I'd say it was really lack of adequate and timely treatment.
Exactly. The concerted messaging and imagery didn’t just happen overnight. It was a coordinated global roll out of an ad campaign. They knew this was going to happen and were prepared for it but I think it was accidentally released too early and wasn’t virulent enough. After all they’d spent years priming the public cons iy with imagery like world war Z, the walking dead and 28 days later that virus = zombie apocalypse so folks were ripe for the scare tactics. So they took the L of the accidental release and ran with it and let their hype media machine do the rest.
It was released at multiple points well before the official 'accident'.
Military games in China in Oct 2019.
Washington state. Other places.
How is there anyone here still thinking it was accidental and happened when they said it did? The lab leak story was a payop. I mean they obviously also leaked it there too, but that was the excuse to the world not the source.
If they released it on purpose in order to kill as many people as possible, you'd think they could figure out something more deadly, like in the realms of ebola or rabies or something. There's much deadlier viruses out there if the goal truly is depopulation.
Remember the big push for getting the flu vaccine in 2019? How they used Hollywood/celebrities to encourage it? PSAs on tv? In January they even did that weird schtick at the Emmy awards, pretending to vaccinate the audience. I haven't been a follower of celebrity type news for a long time so I don't recall that ever being such a thing before, but I wonder if it's tied to this.
The last time I was sick was August 2019. I visited friends in Scotland and the husband and infant son had “some respiratory thing.” I caught it. Constant congestion, trouble breathing, brain fog, exhaustion, watery eyes. Only lasted a few days. Hindsight tells me that was COVID before we knew what it was. (((They))) introduced us to COVID after it was already in the population.
My entire family got VERY sick in September of 2019, we all had severe flu symptoms and no one else around us had the same sort of issues. Doctors had no ideas. We were living in Los Angeles at the time and I worked next door to a Chinese restaurant where I ate pretty often.
Were in Oklahoma and we had all gotten sick around Thanksgiving in 2019. My 8 year old Granddaughter had to go to the emergency room for breathing treatments ( she does not have asthma) they told us just a virus they had no clue. My dr gave me steroids and it was gone in 2-3 days. My hubs dr gave him antibiotics and he had it for almost 3 months
Same thing happened to me around Thanksgiving 2019. They told me I had COPD. It took months to get over it. I received antibiotics, inhalers, steroid shot, and I used a nebulizer. It took months, but now I am fine, and I do not have COPD. I didn't show having antibodies when I donated blood. And I donate often.
Here is a different thought. Thats three years ... and the antibodies were still present? I had bilateral covd pneumonia and was on a vent. One doc wanted me to get the vax before I left the hospital. He said if I got it again I would die. But we know the antibodies have lasted three years! I'm not in medicine, so maybe that is because it was stored. Still glad I never did.
I know several people in multiple states who had Covid in the sept-nov 2019 time frame, and had antibodies. Greenville SC hospital system was totally full during nov that year with cases of upper respiratory disease (not flu) and a college in the area with lots of Asian students had a huge spike in said illness in January when te students returned from Christmas break, according to my local friend. Here in Northern IN a friend likely had Covid that fall as well and was quickly treated at a local ER and quickly sent away.
Plus there were reports of SARS cov2 being found in the municipal sewer system in Italy I believe it was long before the official narrative began (they went back and checked their samples was how the article read)
How does one find 'COVID' antibodies? Could it be antibodies for something else? Has anyone in the history of Virology ever isolated/purified a virus? Does Virology follow the Scientific Method?
We know the enemy will dish out propaganda that confounds the masses. Keeping us in a state of confusion has the desired effect of keeping us divided.
Virology is a complete fraud. It is the reason why we are experiencing medical tyranny today. It's the Bogey man of the modern era. If Virology isn't exposed for what it is, we are going to be subject to medical tyranny again and again until there will be no more human rights.
Well, isn't this interesting! The question now becomes: was the initial release of COVID-19 planned or was it an accident? If an accident, then did it force the deep state's hand and rush their timeline even more than we thought?
They need to go back and start investigating those supposed vaping deaths that started happening around this same time.
Different problem. I've got connections to anesthesiologists who, for obvious reasons, took an interest in people coming in with their lungs destroyed. They were using THC in oil-based solvents and feeding that into the vape pens. The vape pens heat it to over 400°F, depending on the solvent used. Sometimes, the person would inhale before the heat could dissipate enough and the heat was transferred to the lung tissue, burning it from the inside. It was particularly bad with a Vitamin E-based solvent. Those are the ones who died.
Not related to COVID. It was related to "creative" morons who wanted to get high, thought they were being clever, but weren't as clever as they thought they were.
Can confirm, I work in cannabis industry and vitamin E was the main problem there.
Not knowing your background, what is your take on the vape carts? Having heavily consumed them in the past I question the implications/problems
I'd say inhaling ANYTHING that isn't normal air intentionally is a good reason to keep an eye on the health of your lungs.
That said however, normal air has a lot of pollutants and such in it and humans are remarkably resilient.
It's not worth having a panic attack over, though I wouldn't vape or smoke intentionally anyway.
Probably a pretty good rule of thumb thank you
I'd have your lungs checked out.
Thank you for that wealth of knowledge fren 😁
Same, our company never used it but thatvwas the problem.
I started hearing about those in march 2019
I'd forgotten about that. Good point, fren.
I remember hearing about "Popcorn lung" from the vapes.
From a specific artificial flavoring ingredient associated, not vaping, specifically.
Ive been saying this since early 2020.
This just proves to me that COVID is in fact just the flu, yeah?
Pretty much. The hype and hysteria was largely manufactured with fake data. However, we have to remember the spike protein was a real problem. The fact that those vaccines are causing clots is real. The spike protein on the virus was too. Remember that 2/3 of people who died to COVID were killed by respiratory failure: pneumonia --> ARDS --> multi-organ failure and death. But the other 1/3 had microclots everywhere. The virus did do real damage. It wasn't just a harmless flu. Flu itself isn't harmless. It kills 10s of thousands every year.
All that said, it's crystal clear that the numbers were grossly inflated by everyone. Hospitals were overreporting for bigger reimbursement from CMS. Doctors were saying they were being told to falsely report COVID deaths on death certificates. State health boards and CDC were overcounting via a half a dozen mechanisms to inflate both case numbers and mortality figures. Remember CDC admitting its PCR test couldn't distinguish between COVID and flu? That's a problem. Remember CDC advising people not to use the PCR tests because of false positives? That's a problem. That's how we get this 80% asymptomatic lie and mask mandates.
Thought the organ failure was from remdesevir?
There was lots of organ failure outside of hospital settings.
oh thank you
I fought CV off after a day with a little help from what some Frontline Doctors recommended, BUT I realized that my sympoms (in particular the lung/chest pressure&pain) were not a normal variation of the flu. (Of note - caught it from vaccinated neighbor and then gave it to vaccinated friends.)
The worrying part was the loss of energy for over a month now, though it is almost gone.
This was a weaponized flu is my Strong Feeling/Thinking. Hope those people who created it are brought to justice.
The energy loss is brutal. It made me appreciate sleep more than I ever had.
Yeah. The loss of motivation that came with it has been tougher for me. I guess that is a bit the same as the energy loss, hand in hand.
Yes I had gotten a bad case last summer took the protocol which knocked everything out except the exhaustion. I have never felt that tired in my life. Sleeping the majority of the day only to turn around and go to bed and sleep all night. 3-4 weeks
You know what has helped return the energy a great deal? Wimhof and Cold Showers. The cold in particular. Worth a try, pass it on.
My wife has Parosmia after catching Covid. It is 100% a real thing all on its own. Its definitely man made too.
I think there was something in it to create nerve damage of some sort. A few people who I know who had it had that. Just found out a neighbor had something bad with it and can’t get up the stairs months later too.
More importantly, if it was released in Sep 2019 and no one started dropping dead until Fauci got involved, was it really ever anything to worry about?
This is interesting because The Ottawa Citizen had an article in early January 2020 about the hospital morgue being so full that they were putting dead bodies into board rooms. I'll never forget reading it because it had a quote from an admin person who went to have a meeting and there were stretchers with full body bags on them.
I think this is the "dry tinder" effect where, because 2018 was such a mild flu season and there were less than usual deaths of the elderly, in late 2019/early 2020 more than average elderly people died, possibly of covid. 2020 still had no excess mortality compared to prior years, though.
It was an accident. The powers that be were just going to do what they have always done in the past with similar biological accidents, and not tell anyone about it. But a few Chinese doctors broke ranks with the establishment, and alerted the world to what happened, and the powers that be went with plan B- profit off of the accident, while never admitting to causing the accident.
We already figured out that China Virus came from a lab, but this story is far from over.
If they can definitively link it back to a biolab in Ukraine, this is going to be huge.
Covid an accident? Am I reading this correctly? Cause if that’s what you’re saying, I’ve got a bridge to sell ya.
I am well familiar with the depopulation theories. If their goal was to release a deadly pathogen, they would have used something with a 90% kill rate, not a 0.3%. China Virus is the product of corporate greed, and human bumbling.
DARPA documents prove that they first attempted to get funding for their gain of function research in the USA, and were denied the funding due to the inherent danger associated with that type of research. So they outsourced the research to sub-standard facilities in China (and elsewhere) and a major accident happened, just like DARPA warned them about.
Is it really a depopulation theory when high level people influencing the world have outright stated many times various things in favor of depopulation?
Nope. It was a depopulation as well.
The release from the lab, is what he means. We say that because we can't prove the release was deliberate. Lab safety protocols are often not followed nearly as well as they should be, so we assume negligence rather than maliciousness.
The fact that Fauci had commissioned the research and they made this thing was not an accident and he should be facing a jury and a rope for it.
I believe was do it on purpose because the elections and the DS wanted to get rid of our President DJT to do whatever they want.
This is a much less common notion that I haven't really heard tossed around or talked about much. It makes sense as the virus itself is not very deadly at least statistically and if they really wanted to release some deadly virus/pathogen, I'm sure we would see people actually dropping like flies like in the movie contagion or something. Valid point. As you've said, still much to unfold and hopefully we find out in due time
https://www.westernjournal.com/chinese-doctor-first-warned-coronavirus-dies/
The Chy-na dot has been connected.
Now this...
Drip drip...
What next? Direct linkage and escapage from Ukraine??
Fake news to reinforce the fake narrative that covid is real. It’s nothing more than the common flu rebranded with the name COVID. They simply changed the name. The Multimedia advertising campaign was a huge success.
It does seem that way, but I do wonder at times about some of the ongoing symptoms that seem to be worse for some people than the "usual flu" all the same. Multi media ad campaign=mass formation psychosis; also true!
People with reliable memory and has had past flu vs this flu can tell it's definitely worse than previous flus but nevertheless that's what it is - a slightly worse flu.
Wouldn't be surprised if it's just the flu, but the vaccine makes it worse.
Do you actually know any people who have the ongoing symptoms etc. or was it just something you read on MSM? There seem to be so many people that discuss such things, but no one actually has any first-hand experience with it.
My FiL was really ill in December. Hospital said covid but he believes it was flu. He’s still feeling after effects now and it has hit him hard. He’s unjabbed and refused it afterwards - which shows how much the whole jab thing is ridiculous- if he’s just recovered from covid he’s got antibodies so why would he need a jab? He caught hell from MiL who believes everything g the TV says but he’s remained steadfast in his refusal.
I have an unjabbed friend (in his 40's) who got blood clots while he had covid, and is on blood thinners and can't work (landscaper) until after the summer. I have another friend (in her 30's), again unjabbed (although I don't know if that matters anymore), whose whole family had a head cold, she ended up in the hospital. She still has trouble, 3 months later, walking to the end of the driveway to get the mail. Another friend (in her 30's) who is still on oxygen after covid. I definitely think this is man made. All of them felt as if they were under attack when they were sick.
I know 2 people with long covid
I don't follow MSM. Yes, actually I do know people. At least four people I'd say over the past two years. As well as having a physician friend who is treating many people and has observed that there seems to be a sort of "cycle" in which a person recovering from "covid" goes through various physical issues in different parts of the body for a number of months before it all clears up. He and his family had it very early on, having been on the east coast in early 2020, and also experienced this. He was one who began providing treatment earlier than the "experts" were recommending long ago, though I think he is still recommending the vax last time I spoke with him.
Sadly, I also know a number of people who have died "with covid" where I'd say it was really lack of adequate and timely treatment.
Exactly. The concerted messaging and imagery didn’t just happen overnight. It was a coordinated global roll out of an ad campaign. They knew this was going to happen and were prepared for it but I think it was accidentally released too early and wasn’t virulent enough. After all they’d spent years priming the public cons iy with imagery like world war Z, the walking dead and 28 days later that virus = zombie apocalypse so folks were ripe for the scare tactics. So they took the L of the accidental release and ran with it and let their hype media machine do the rest.
If someone knows here how in the world this bioweapon was spread all over the world at the same time?
It was released at multiple points well before the official 'accident'. Military games in China in Oct 2019. Washington state. Other places.
How is there anyone here still thinking it was accidental and happened when they said it did? The lab leak story was a payop. I mean they obviously also leaked it there too, but that was the excuse to the world not the source.
I don't believe covid was an accident. They unleashed that on us with the intent to kill as many people in the world as possible.
and timed it to steal an election.
If they released it on purpose in order to kill as many people as possible, you'd think they could figure out something more deadly, like in the realms of ebola or rabies or something. There's much deadlier viruses out there if the goal truly is depopulation.
Remember the big push for getting the flu vaccine in 2019? How they used Hollywood/celebrities to encourage it? PSAs on tv? In January they even did that weird schtick at the Emmy awards, pretending to vaccinate the audience. I haven't been a follower of celebrity type news for a long time so I don't recall that ever being such a thing before, but I wonder if it's tied to this.
The last time I was sick was August 2019. I visited friends in Scotland and the husband and infant son had “some respiratory thing.” I caught it. Constant congestion, trouble breathing, brain fog, exhaustion, watery eyes. Only lasted a few days. Hindsight tells me that was COVID before we knew what it was. (((They))) introduced us to COVID after it was already in the population.
Patient zero in the U.S.?
😳😳😳 imagine little ole me, startin’ it all!
Sounds like flu
Well yea, I had the rona in November 2019 and it ain’t like I was patient zero.
My entire family got VERY sick in September of 2019, we all had severe flu symptoms and no one else around us had the same sort of issues. Doctors had no ideas. We were living in Los Angeles at the time and I worked next door to a Chinese restaurant where I ate pretty often.
Um….”Viral Myalgia, MD”? Seriously?
Were in Oklahoma and we had all gotten sick around Thanksgiving in 2019. My 8 year old Granddaughter had to go to the emergency room for breathing treatments ( she does not have asthma) they told us just a virus they had no clue. My dr gave me steroids and it was gone in 2-3 days. My hubs dr gave him antibiotics and he had it for almost 3 months
Same thing happened to me around Thanksgiving 2019. They told me I had COPD. It took months to get over it. I received antibiotics, inhalers, steroid shot, and I used a nebulizer. It took months, but now I am fine, and I do not have COPD. I didn't show having antibodies when I donated blood. And I donate often.
Some more articles about this:
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0300891620974755
https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/europe/covid-19-was-discovered-in-blood-samples-stored-in-norway-as-early-as-2019-articleshow.html
Covid antibodies? The common cold is still common.
Here is a different thought. Thats three years ... and the antibodies were still present? I had bilateral covd pneumonia and was on a vent. One doc wanted me to get the vax before I left the hospital. He said if I got it again I would die. But we know the antibodies have lasted three years! I'm not in medicine, so maybe that is because it was stored. Still glad I never did.
I know several people in multiple states who had Covid in the sept-nov 2019 time frame, and had antibodies. Greenville SC hospital system was totally full during nov that year with cases of upper respiratory disease (not flu) and a college in the area with lots of Asian students had a huge spike in said illness in January when te students returned from Christmas break, according to my local friend. Here in Northern IN a friend likely had Covid that fall as well and was quickly treated at a local ER and quickly sent away. Plus there were reports of SARS cov2 being found in the municipal sewer system in Italy I believe it was long before the official narrative began (they went back and checked their samples was how the article read)
Have they tried testing PawPaw fruit, motor oil or Coca-Cola from 2019?
Did this point to Ukraine?
Could this be a possible link to Ukraine bio labs being that this was Europe?
It was all intentional to make sure Trump didnt get back in.
How does one find 'COVID' antibodies? Could it be antibodies for something else? Has anyone in the history of Virology ever isolated/purified a virus? Does Virology follow the Scientific Method?
We know the enemy will dish out propaganda that confounds the masses. Keeping us in a state of confusion has the desired effect of keeping us divided.
Virology is a complete fraud. It is the reason why we are experiencing medical tyranny today. It's the Bogey man of the modern era. If Virology isn't exposed for what it is, we are going to be subject to medical tyranny again and again until there will be no more human rights.
Watch Dr. Tom Cowan explain the history of Virology.
Archived link - https://archive.ph/PXE5V
We knew this. Too many people had what was later identified as COVID-19 for the government's announced "start date" to be correct.