Q said we would be the saviors of the world. My son is conservative but he has no clue what Q really has been, what we have learned, how much sleep we've lost, how many tears we have cried, how many panic attacks we've had as more has made sense in the broader picture. The soldiers from Vietnam got shit on so bad. I pray we are at least acknowledged as the 5th column that performed the assymetric warfare for the White Hats, researched where it was less detectable than in government systems, refused to back down, took all the name calling, censorship, ridicule, etc....AND WE NEVER BACKED DOWN!
ONE DAY I HOPE MY SON KNOWS WHAT WE HAVE REALLY DONE AND SACRIFICED FOR THE FUTURE OF HUMANITY.
WWG1WGA
UPDATE 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸He has agreed to go to counseling. I'll be picking a Christian one. God is good. My son is a good man. He is just blinded by cynicism and my hope and faith seem like delusion to him. GOD BLESS YOU PEDES! YOUR PRAYERS WORKED ALMOST INSTANTLY!!!
I have a Brady Bunch. Two I birthed, four I didn't. The two I birthed are not speaking to me because I'm a Trump supporter. My son hasn't spoken to me in over two years, my daughter hasn't spoken to me in a year-and-a-half. It is hard, for sure. And I, like you, keep waiting for them to find out the truth.
All I can say at this point, is thank God for my stepkids who are not that way at all.
I know there are lots of us dealing with alienation from family members over this. I think that it will all make sense in the end--to everybody. Hang in there.
We are in it together fren.
Yes, we are, fren. Thank you.
I am in same boat but instead my mom and sisters family are brain dead. I think everyone on here has same issues. Just need to pray for them.
Also using there info and email addresses to donate money to Trump is fun. I can imagine all the Trump texts and RNC mail they get now lol.
Remember you were grown when he was sticking his fingers in his butt and his nose. :)
He was a sweet angel boy when he was little. I miss that little guy. I trust God/Universe/Creator/Source that my kids are on the path they need to be on and that eventually it will reconnect with my path. But this is a rough ride for me. I actually hope it's not as hard on them as it is on me, but I worry about them all the time, especially my son. He's very mildly Aspergers so he's easily influenced by people around him, and those people I know for a fact don't love him like I love him, so I hold my breath a fair amount. But, again, I have faith in the Universe. And I pray.
My mom asked if I really believed the things I was showing her and if I had dementia. My dad died with really bad dementia two years ago a few days from now.
I haven’t responded to her on that statement she made. But once this is all out in the wash, she needs to know how bad it really was.
She also hasn’t called or emailed since I explained to that her precious faux news showed the WWII fake bomb being ‘defused’.
Another one in the same position. Nice to know we are not alone.
You aren’t alone. Some of my folks think I’m nuts too. But I’ve red pilled some and even Q pilled just a couple.
Crazy thing is, he knows I'm right 75% of the time. I think he doesn't understand my commitment here and therefore he doesn't trust my other decisions. I get it. Heartbreaking but I get it.
Our 45 yo son gets enraged that we watched FOX News. (That was before we learned what FOX really was.) He went crazy that we watched the X22 report. He hated a Trump, but never bothered to vote. Neither of our adult children believed what we told them about Covid, the shot, the testing. Although our youngest refused to get the shot on principal, so somewhere buried deep is a small doubt. Our children both believe in global warming and the media regarding the Ukraine. This shows the level of indoctrination in schools (they attended private schools) and universities. The Deep State keeps parents busy by working, so that they don’t look to deeply into what is being taught. I pray that our children one day realize their parents were right, but I felt too that I knew more than my parents until I reached about my mid 60’s. Now I wish my parents were still alive so we could have a more meaningful and insightful conversation.
I, too, miss my parents very much. I am the second to the youngest. My dad passed when I was 21, my mom, when I was 47. I am 60.
You're blessed you got to know your parents. My Dad passed in a car accident when my mother was a few months pregggers with me in 1966. He was being scouted hard by the L.A. Dodgers and was to go to their training out of high school (Yes, he was only 18yrs old). My mom died of breast cancer when I was 8yrs old, she was only 26.
Life was rough as a kid...I'm 56 now. I didnt go to the school of hard knocks, I was a professor there.
(((Big Hugs)))
I'm a mean old man but I would still hug you. :)
Just make sure your son knows you love him even if you sometimes disagree.
We had a fight. I told him. I also told him I was done with his disrespect. Said some things I wish I hadn't. What's done is done. I'm sick of being abused. He knows I love him and that he is crushing my soul. Said that specifically. Told him to go home and make a baby so he could finally understand how hurtful he's been to me. 😢😢
Call him and visit him and have a coffee with him. Even if you need to travel across the country to spend 30 minutes with him. Allow him to be angry at you and strike you with his words and BRIEFLY tell him how hurt it makes you feel AFTER he's calmed down. Let him know you love him. Don't allow time to make you strangers. It'll be the worst mistake you've ever made because you will grow apart.
Ask him what he's been doing. Discuss his work and his life and his dreams.
If he hurts you then try to understand why and let him know how you feel.
This isn't about you.
You are an adult and he is finding his way. I guarantee you made mistakes because we all do. Take those lumps and move on. Be there for him even if it hurts. It's far better than the alternative.
Hes 28, a homeowner, successful, and very married. Not a child.
I've got a decade on your son, my dad is past 60. We'd go round and round (sometimes still do). He's always been a staunch Republican and I thought I centerist but the narative shifted and here I am labeled far right. I have been married and bought a house when I was 23.
The wife and house are long gone because of my pride and drinking that my father warned me about. He now sees his blind belief in the Bush family was wrong and Fox is controlled opposition. Plenty more examples I could point out where we changed each other's beliefs for the better.
His knees are shot and his back will be soon. I'm an alcoholic and it's tolerated because I'm an incredibly talented master electrician. He needs help and so do I. After years of fighting I quit my job and dragged my camper up here and I'm helpping him install solar and build a greenhouse. Went to church with him yesterday, grilled up steak and bickered sober in the hot tub.
I still think the people in his church "speaking in tongues" are attention whore liars and he still thinks Jews are chosen by god. I'll keep pointing out last names of those running politics, child trafficking and satanic groups. He'll keep inviting me to church and his AA meetings.
We're better men with each other in our lives. Just love your son and let him know opinions differ, vary and change but family is permanent. He ain't getting a different dad so he better spend some time with you before you go... even if you can only discuss dogs or the weather.
Thank you
I have tried so many times, sometimes its fine, he just won't let up if he disagrees with me. I get it. He's just like me. I just see that all his opinions about my life are colored by the fact that I've been a qtard for 5 years so obviously I'm not capable of any good decisions, no matter how detailed, thought out, etc. He doesn't even ask. He just immediately assumes I am missing a lugnut so the remainder is tainted. Q and my commitment are the CORE. I've tried everything. I keep my distance and keep praying. He is in GOD'S hands now. Tough love but it's love nonetheless. Thanks pede.
Then don't speak about Q or politics.
Talk about something he enjoys and is proud of. Talk about his work and learn the name of his boss and his best friend at work so you'll have something to ask him about during another visit. If he's renovating his house or even doing minor DIY fixes then ask him about how long it took and how it turned out. When your relationship repairs, you'll be able to ask him for advice if you need to fix something similar. DO NOT give him advice unless he asks. Just try to learn about what he is doing and how he feels.
I recommend you don't keep your distance.
Visit him. Be totally vulnerable. This isn't about you.
Even if you must drive across two states to visit him for an hour then do it. He'll know why you're there even if he doesn't acknowledge it. Make up a silly and obvious excuse if you want a laugh.
If you allow time to pass then your bonds will be lost and you'll have nothing to discuss. You won't know to ask about his friends or his workmates or his boss or his worries or his hopes or if he finished re-tiling his bathroom. You won't know when his wife becomes pregnant and he won't call you to ask questions about how to be a parent.
Your son doesn't need your arguments or stress or advice. The time for guidance has come and gone unless he asks for it. You only need to be there. You are not currently there.
That's my advice.
I really appreciate it. I don't talk about Q, haven't in several years. The damage is done. He believed me when we date fagged earlier. He thinks I can't face reality. I have done everything I know to do. I even offered to go to counseling together. I just refuse to be belittled. If I can stand up to the world and not my own child, what good am I?
We both know you haven't done everything you know how to do.
We both know you refuse to do everything you know how to do.
You are more protective of yourself than you are of your son.
You will never know your grandchildren.
So, you think I should take the abuse, huh? That's bullshit. I am setting an example of strength through adversity and oppression. Never back down when someone is abusing you. That's stupid. What's next? I know when I'm wrong and willingly admit is and correct course. I can't fix him. He has to fix himself. Of course I'll know my grandkids. He's a good.man and will eventually wake up. Jeez. Fatalistic?
What? Wow. Judge much? Shill.
May turn out to be the best thing. If I can go back that far I will link a post about a fight I had with my oldest. It was a doozy. Tough love from people here told me what I already knew. I needed to stop acting like a doormat and tell him to get out of my house if he found me and my beliefs so offensive. He did. And he checks in regularly and tells me he loves me every time we hang up the phone. The big blowout was emotional and I said some things I wish I hadn't, but so did he. We are closer now than we have been in years and when I begged him not to get boosted before doing extensive research from ALL SIDES, instead of acting like I was crazy he said, "yea, I looked into that and not gonna. The heart stuff kinda scary,"
Miracles do happen.
EDIT: Here's the original post. https://greatawakening.win/p/11S0l6lepr/my-young-adult-son-is-losing-his/
Thank you. He agreed to counseling with me. God is good.
Ma'am, telling him to go home and have a baby so he can finally understand is THE MOST gangsta (and absolutely TRUE) thing I've heard in a LONG time. 😲
Also, super glad to read the EDIT in the OP. God is AWESOME.
WWG1WGA
Why thank you. It's just true. His sister apologized to me after she became a mother. I apologized to my mother. He is a good person. He just worries too much about me and tries to parent me and crosses way too many boundaries.
I trust you and your son will do just fine in the long run. Thank you so much for sharing throughout this thread. You're a gem. 🤗
Thank you guys for being here for me. You're my tribe and I love all of you more than words can explain. I am so grateful for You're love and prayers. We are powerful here. We need to remember that. Today has been a miracle.
I agree. There are many days I wish I could tell my mom and dad, they were right, or I am sorry, and above all, I love you.
We are the same. My husband is conservative but basically has succumbed to the attitude that we can't do anything so just dont worry about it. Nothing is going to change. I think ive made believers out of a few conservative family members about the cabal and the evil and child sacrifice, but even they let go at the point when I say something big is coming. Our God is bigger and greater than all of this. By his almighty hand the impossible becomes possible. At some point when we are on the other side, we should form directories and maybe meet with other like-minded patriots. A reunion minus the"re" perhaps.
Its like they're pissed we still have hope or something. Right?! That's what it feels like. I'm delusional because I have faith in humanity and the plan.
Haven't talked to him about anything we do here for a couple years. Only things he knows. Already tried that tack. Thank God he's agreed to counseling with me.
We understand and we love you!
Stay strong, Fren!
2022 is the year truth will be revealed.
It only takes one truth to crack the brainwashing shield blocking their understanding. To me, Remdesivir is the easiest truth to prove. The NIH website points us to two studies Fauci quotes in support of its use. Remdesevir didn't even make it to the end of the Ebola study, because it killed 51% of the participants. The other study Fauci quoted was performed by Gilead, who owns Remesdevir, so that one doesn't count. People who are willing to learn this may start asking themselves "Why?". If they lost someone close to them due to Remdesivir, this crack may be all it takes to break them free from the brainwashing.
Then, maybe they will be ready to learn about election fraud, Durham indictments, and the US involvement in corruption and destruction in other countries.
Recently, I’ve just let normies talk about topics, and when they’re done with their mental gymnastics the media imposed onto them, I get to ask questions that “make sense” but conflicts with their narrative. They don’t get upset because they brought it up, they can’t back up their claims because it’s straight up bullshit, and when you can, you can really hear the gears in their brains start to move
I would love to be a fly on the wall, listening as you do that.
You just have to use their words against them without completely dismissing their point of view. Doing so upsets them for obvious reasons. Basically gotta walk them through the whole thing lol, but it’s worth it when you see it finally click.
Thanks. Keep up the important work! 👍 👏
Same here. One day he will realise. Until then, my job is to keep him safe and give him love.
Some days will be harder than other to keep him safe. No matter, the love is there. Stay strong and know, all the parents here have gone through it, are going through it, or will be going through it soon.
WWG1WGA.
Remember when Noah said a great flood was coming? He was telling this to people as he was building a massive arc in the middle of dry land nowhere near water. He invited people to help him build it and they would have a place onboard but most laughed and scorned him as crazy and a nut job.
Have you ever tried to wake someone up who isn't ready to wake up. They can be pretty grumpy and consider you to be wrong for trying to wake them.
Theres a reason its called an Awakening. We have awoken. They will soon enough, but everyone in their time.
When controversial subjects come up, just sit back and know theyre talking in their sleep.
Finally I'd say from paying attention to the real facts for many years now, we are truly nearing a turning point here. The fear of the deep state is palpable and events like Ukraine and what was going on in Kazakhstan not too long ago are clear signs that big moves are being made. Sleepers will awaken soon but until it happens on mass, we won't know what will trigger it.
So sit back, enjoy the show, and know you're son is talking in his sleep.
He sees what's happening. He just thinks i am nuts because of previous date fagging. He doesn't think any decisions i make are trustworthy now because of it.
Well, stop continually date fagging. None of us know dates, if we did they would change because deepstate countermeasures could occur.
It happens when it happens.
Great comparisons.
Hold the line. Eyes will soon open. If not we can't save them all.
Yup. No other way around it, you must see to believe, as they say. Hell, I was the same way to some topics, although i was “awakened” by my own accord and research. Ultimately, I’m glad I woke up and looked at the huge steaming pile of shit I’d been lying on.
It's like we have to make America awake for the first time.
New truths are revealed every day
I just keep thinking this is what the Civil War must’ve felt like for families. It tells me we are in a war right now.
There has never been anything like this. Essentially, the elites of the world have declared war on the citizenry, and the vast majority have no clue they're being targeted.
In the Civil War, you had geography in common. It was North vs South and there were actual battle grounds.
In past wars, propaganda could only go so far and it was done for morale reasons more than anything. The reality always wins out in a conventional war.
This however, is far more nefarious because so many are oblivious that it's even happening. And those of us that are, are being gaslit 247 by tech, pop culture and the MSM.
Worst part is, you can’t really stop the people around you from consuming the poison that is propaganda. It’s quite literally unavoidable.
Yes, in family members picking sides. Of course, the sides this time are more in shadows with one being completely dark.
I feel your pain, anon. Many of us (me included) have stories of being un-friended by friends and family. When the full truth comes out, even then they will hate us for being affiliated with that truth....eventually, they will see the necessity for that truth to come out. "It's easier to fool a man than to convince him he's been fooled." Mark Twain said that.
I won't engage friends or family that are not ready to open their eyes. Not worth it. Now if they force the issue, God help them. lol
Our children are Conservative. The other night we had them all over for dinner. Our eldest watches Newsmax🤪. I switched the subject when he started getting angry after I said Putin is helping. I gave him some info and if he chooses to he can research. Refuse to argue because stubborn does not even come close to describing him.
Join the club.
All Glory to GOD, Patriot.🙌🙏
I have family members who are more awake than they want to admit. That's okay. God woke us up early for a purpose. I believe we will help them through what's coming. I just keep praying that Jesus will hear my prayers for some loved ones who are really struggling and leave the 99 to go and rescue them, and that HE will show me how to help those who are going to receive the rude awakening, rather than the gradual awakening HE allowed me to recieve. Nothing can stop what is coming, but we can help to cushion the blow for those whom HE has put in our path.
My friend's dad thinks he's mentally unstable and lives in a fantasy land. Maybe you guys should swap?
I hear ya and with ya.
What a fantastic mum he has. He'll be alright
Thank you. I love him to the moon, I just can't deal with these boundary issues. Hopefully soon he will understand everything. He's smart. He wants to believe but just can't. That's ok. If he'll just learn boundaries.
Feel your pain. Been there. Still there with daughters. We just can’t talk about it but I’m waiting for their awakening to happen. It will…
Praying for it🙏🙏🙏🙏
Your lucky I’ve been banished from my family and most of my friends, not that it bothers me too much just frees up more time to keep excavating.
I am so sorry. I am blessed to not be there yet.
My prayers are with all of us. NO we are not crazy. We believe God is with us in the battle between good and evil. I also pray for all of them too. Sometimes those we love are the hardest to reach. If we live our lives showing others the good.....Our example may have an impact...in time...keep our eyes and hearts open for the return of our families and friends when they wake up.
I offer you this piece of advice with the best intentions as someone who had a very strained relationship with my mother for many years because I would not accept her beliefs. (This predates the current crisis, but is similar in form.) It is not his fault he rejects your beliefs. He has reasons. You may not understand them, but they are there.
If he is being disrespectful to you and crushing your soul, ask yourself honestly what may have driven him to that stage. Blaming him because his values are different from your own will never help. Try to recognize that he is a victim too, and there is very likely 28 years of history in your argument.
Beliefs about what is happening right now aren't something that should ever drive families apart. Really. And it is contingent upon those of us who understand there is a deeper game here to be the ones to make sure that doesn't happen. And that may involve letting him be rude to you and ridicule you...a lot...and simply taking it in stride. Let me repeat that. You may need to develop the courage to simply accept all his verbal assaults and denigration and let it slide off without comment. Who knows what effect that might have in the future. Don't shy away from it because it is unpleasant.
It honestly makes no difference if any of us are right or wrong, or how history remembers us, or if there is ever an "I told you so" moment where people understand the sacrifices. We are here to do the best we can with the information we have and to share that community with others. And if it is true that you have better information than your son, or you saw it earlier, or found a truth that resonates with you, simply be grateful that you were bestowed that blessing. Not everyone is so lucky.
But always remember his path is his own. You don't get a say in his destiny, and you should not presume to know the divine plan for his life. Be respectful of his choices even if you think he is not respectful of yours. Do not expect external approval from him about your values. From personal experience I can tell you that he will resent you for trying to force your beliefs on him, even if that is only his perception of what you are doing, and not your intent.
I have a relationship with my mother now only because I forgave her for taking that attitude with me. (So don't think your admonishments to your son will have the effect you think. He likely has a perspective different from yours.) I have my own children and have vowed to never do to them what my mother did to me, but I also wanted her to know her grandchildren and for them to know her. And after talking over the past few years I think she now understands. And yes, I know that I wasn't always nice to her either. But that experience was also critical in teaching me to think first before I open my mouth and say things that have consequences.
Sadly, she is also very conservative, but doesn't believe the truth about the deep state, Q, the war we are now in, and thinks I am the crazy one. She still prays for me to accept her beliefs and hopes I abandon my crazy delusions. But for all that, she is the one living in fear of the future. I am completely content with my choices and, with the respect that all independent beings are owed, I acknowledge her right to make her own.
Your insight is interesting and you make some good points. But I don't agree that you should stand there and take your child's (or anyone's) verbal abuse and ridicule. It's one thing if you were an abusive or absent parent who is now remorseful and are asking to be forgiven. In an extreme case like that, you might need to hear some harsh words and sincerely apologize before you can move on.
But over a difference of political opinion? There's no way you should accept abuse or disrespect over that. It's not even a good example to set for your child. You're not just teaching them it's okay to abuse and disrespect you. By example, you're teaching them that it's okay for them to let someone abuse and disrespect them.
You should absolutely set some boundaries. That doesn't mean you should silence your child or cut them off. If they're willing to speak to you in a respectful way, let them express whatever thoughts, feelings, and opinions they have. But that also doesn't mean you have to have the same frustrating, futile conversation over and over. At some point, you might have to agree to disagree about some things and table the topic, at least for a while.
If my son ever revealed that he thinks I'm crazy for believing in this and told me he didn't believe it himself I would make sure that he didn't leave until I had fully convinced him that it was what it is
I tip my hat to all the brave ones out there who brought children into this world. I just couldn't do it. I said I'll wait till the world starts to get a little better, but it never did. My kids are pissed at me and won't talk to me because I never had them.
Ignore the undereducated. Not everyone have a soul.
Admit it, there's a part of you that thinks it may never and it's just a slow roll of news that normies lap up.
I'm in the same boat 😃
I actually see it more now than ever that it is happening. It's very clear something, call if God if you want, is working against them. So, I honestly do believe we will be vindicated, I just wish it had happened 2 years ago. We have a counseling appointment next week. I am blessed.
"We have a counseling appointment next week"
You have counselling??
PERFECT!
You can try and red pill your counsellor too. Bring all the GA facts and evidence there and when it's your time to speak, start dropping bombs :D
Don't try to fix him, just accept him for who and where he is right now. You don't actually need his approval or love. Be the example, the loving family member you want him to be.
I do accept him, I'm just sick of him not respecting my boundaries. I respect his. Thx.
It's not all about you. He's a young man. He's probably worried about a woman, money, bills, his job, a house, vehicle, gas, his entire future. He may not care anything about Q. You have decades of experience he doesn't have. Support and comfort him. Stop being disappointed he's not supporting and comforting you. Stop letting Q shit keep him from being close to you.
(This is just my opinion. I'm a nobody. Feel free to ignore me. I don't have kids. We lost my Dad suddently. We moved back and purchased the house across the street from my Mom. My husband and I make dinner with my Mom nearly every night. She's awesome. But she often forgets we have our own shit we are dealing with. When she was our age she visited her parents once a year on summer vacation. She forgets this. She forgets what it was like at our age. She'd make everything about her if we let her.)
He's married, successful, stubborn. We're going to counseling next week. Thank God!
Ok. But take a step back and look at this with some distance. You are asking a young married man to go to counseling with his mother. Don't try to make his life all about you. He is not responsible for your happiness. He has a wife. She won't respect him if he's some weak child who caters to his Mommy's demands. It's OK if he doesn't give a shit about Q. He can love you and have other interests.
Ignore me if you want. I'm nobody. But I know I can't let my Mom run over me. I'm hoping to be here, for her, for 20+ years! I adore her! But I have no problem telling her no. We have boundaries. We have to ALL be happy and live our lives the way we like. We all get one life.
I wish you and your son lots of joy and success!
Perhaps if you focused on Jesus Christ together instead of Q, you’d have a better relationship. Sure Q threw us some crumbs - and has put us all in a position to try and figure out the madness all on her own. I’m not too keen about that.
But Jesus Christ lay down his life for us, if we focus on his sacrifice, his word, and fellowship in with other believers, perhaps your relationship with Christ would be stronger, and your relationship with your son would be stronger. Just saying.