These people are even more SICK than I realized.....🙄🙄
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Threatening to kill someone or encouraging others to do it IS violence and IS against the law. The morons need a visit from law enforcement.
All laws against the First Amendment, including these laws, were put into place in the past century. They did not exist for the first 150 years of our country. They were put into place by the Cabal (post 1913, like most such acts of fuckery) to justify censorship. No such laws have ever been made "un-illegal". Once in place, they remain, and government censorship only increases over time.
It seems reasonable that halting words that are intended to incite violence, or words that are threatening, should be restricted action. However, words are not deeds (except when they are, like actual mind control). There is no reason to restrict any speech. If someone commits an act of violence, then the action is illegal because it is an infringement on another person's Inalienable Rights. But the threat of violence (as words), can't possible harm someone.
For example, If someone is threatening violence towards me in words I will likely ignore them. I may walk away, or try to talk them down, whatever; situation dependent. Sometimes those words are accompanied by walking towards me, or making other threatening gestures. That is a completely different beast. In that case it is not the words that are the problem, but the physical threats. Sticks and Stones can break my bones, but words can never harm me. Therefore, words can't be an infringement of my Rights, no matter what those words are (excepting again, actual mind control, though that is usually accompanied by being tied in a chair and being drugged, i.e. physical actions).
With regards to the first exception to 1A in 1919(ish), where inciting a mob was made illegal; it seems so sensible. We don't want mobs.
Except sometimes that's not necessarily a bad thing. This country was founded on exactly such speeches. In 1919 it was made illegal to make the exact same speeches that created our country. No fuckery there I'm sure.
Not that that is important, because its not the words that are the problem, but the action that comes next. Preventing speech is a Pre-Crime Division. There is no crime in any speech, because there can be no infringement of Rights in any speech. It is only the actions that may or may not come after the words where Rights infringement can occur.
Well said.
Also true - it's easy to talk big shit on the internet, especially when your voice is amplified (over social media).
Laws that restrict speech go back to the 17th century. Libel laws anyone?
This is a very good point, one I had not thought of. My research was into changes to the laws that were directed at the first amendment specifically, as determined by SCOTUS.
In the case of defamation it's a little different however, because defamation requires the person themselves to bring a suit against the defamer. The State can't charge a person with defamation, but the state can charge a person will "illegal speech" in these other instances.
Nevertheless, despite those differences, there are fundamental similarities. I will have to think on that more. I assert however, in a society with truly free speech, where a person could offer a rebuttal against defamation, that no harm can come to a person because of it. (This assumes that the defamation is an untrue or mischaracterized statement.)
It is only when we believe or trust a source of defamation (the media e.g.) that defamation can cause any harm at all. In other words, defamation can't be a rights infringement on its own; it requires The Matrix to support it. In such a case it would be The Matrix which was the crime (Rights infringement), not the defamation itself.
Excellent reply sir, I admire you for it. An example of a 17th century law against speech that the government could enforce would be the Sedition Act of 1798.
Due to the nature of crazy though, threatening someone directly is a pretty big no no and certainly if we had people doing our jobs your name would probably temporarily end up on a watch list to see if you make any moves towards doing it.
This is unfortunately because of the crazies who do this, and make law enforcement have to take these threats seriously or risk the loss of life. It's sad.
What is also sad is that a lot of these wouldn't fall under that, but would still be used for pity points e.g. by video game devs caught in a scandal.
I'd say we point and laugh first.
Ending up on a watch list is not the same as being arrested and charged with an illegal act. If someone threatens my life they are sus as fuck and they have my full attention. That doesn't mean they have done anything illegal. My discussion was about what was law; what was an infringement of Rights.
Threatening me is not a violation of my Rights and thus has no place in our laws. I can walk away at any time after someone threatens me. I can ignore it completely. I can do whatever I want, and no infringement has happened. Any law that would restrict their Right to threaten me is completely amoral, a violation of Natural Law AND Unconstitutional, even if it is "legal."
We have a metric fuckton of laws that violate all sorts of pieces of the Constitution. I'd argue that almost all of our Federal laws violate the Constitution, and are thus Unlawful, even if they are "legal."
This is the way.
Words aren't violence, even if the law says so. Repeal that bullshit and get back to FREE speech.
I got banned in 2019 because I said Pelosi and Brennan should be tried for treason...
They called it... "participating in targeted abuse". Its all about how you word it. Saying you wish they would get a fair trail and then be punished is fine. That one guy just flat out says "I'm going to murder Elon Musk with a knife." Not cool.
Those laws are unconstitutional. The concept of "fighting words" is bullshit and anybody that brings it up because they get triggered should be called a faggot.
And this is All because a private Citizen decided to buy Twitter and restore Free speech....So let's Kill him...!!...Fucking dumb Mother f*ckers...🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
Looks like a bunch of bot activity to me.
Yeah, seems suspicious
To many variations to be bots, usually it's the same copy-pasta in every one.
That's what you've been led to believe. Just like Snapchat convincing people that posts were deleted after 30 seconds.
What repulses me most about that is that kids use it to send things they shouldn't be, under the misguided belief in the marketing that it's private and is not stored.
Which means that Snapchat probably has servers of such material and somehow gets away with it.
Yeah probably tons of underage nudes in servers being distributed.
Yikes.
It's gross and scary that it has been allowed to go on for so long.
billionaire fascist corporation good, billionaire free speech absolutist bad
Yea weren’t they against “hate speech”. Talking about killing someone sure sounds like “hate speech”. They’re such a violent low conscious bunch
They're trying to get suspended so they can say 'see, Elon doesn't want free speech!'
Precisely...👌 They want to see how far they can go ....
How is it sick, then? Seems to be just testing out the algorithm.
Because not all of them are doing it for that reason.
although this isnt free speech. you are not free to go around talking about killing, or calling for, someones death
But you should be able to, or else your speech isn't free.
Just enjoy the show. The meltdowns allow the salt to flow, as it must.
I have the Natural Right to call someone a faggot, and government should never have the ability to legislate that away. "Hate speech" laws are entirely unconstitutional and anybody that writes the legislation and votes 'yes' should be physically kicked out of office.
I agree entirely
Wow! What a bunch of evil deranged lunatics.
they should think more constructive like bagging Soros, Schwab and Gates
Those are 'their' billionaires. They like them.
Out of curiosity, could some of these be bots?
Probably over 90%
No, but they sure act in unison
yes
I wasn't aware that Twitter was populated by so many tough guys. Free speech is one thing, but death threats are against the law as far as I know.
It's a good thing the FBI knows these guys are a joke or they might be getting put on some sort of watch list.
if our education system wasnt so fucked, people would realize that free speech is restrained to what is legal, i.e., you are not free to talk about murdering people
they think that people are literally going to be able to just go on there and start saying the most vile, heinous shit
these people are stupid
They really are....
The homeless comparison is amusing.
CA has the most extensive homeless help system of any state, period. The taxes imply so.
They really need to be asking "how come the 14+ million a year isn't housing the 14,000 Sleeping in their cars already?"
This is pretty interesting.
Reeeeeee I dint get my way anymore reeeeee dad came home from work now I can’t play dress up
Saying you "WILL kill xyz" is a threat, that can be investigated. Not free speech.
Stupid is as stupid does.
They're just practicing inclusion, tolerance, and sensitivity, give 'em a break.
anonymity sure brings out "the best" in people.... Where are those guidelines against such "hate speech" when needed???
Oh my goodness these people are weird.
Whats with the last one - 'murder him to death'? Surely murder is death, or is there a different kind of murder I have not heard of in my 60+ years on planet earth? 😂😂😂
oh haha
Most of them are trannies
Idiots don’t know what a call to violence is?
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Sick, yes. But incredibly stupid too. Just because we all have the freedom to say something does NOT grant us immunity for saying it. They don't seem to understand that part. Almost like their overlords didn't program them with crucial pieces of info and critical thinking.
Say the same about Bill Gates and see what happens.
I counted only 3 which can be considered Direct Threats, and a couple that are borderline, all the rest are simply wishes and not actionable under the Law....
Wait, are these all Joe Biden?
I'm not surprised at all...
These tweets violate God's terms of service.
This is surprising to you?
Do'ers do, talkers talk. All I see is a lot of shit talking.
These are the same POSs that would scream and throw a temper tantrum like a 2-year-old if they didn't get their way - they don't realize what they sound like to normal people.
Mostly peaceful twatter meltdown
Unhinged. Let's add MDS to the already ever-present TDS these people have.
if the FBI wasn't a political wing of the democrat party i'd say these people were being reported for crimes and being investigated.
Are these possibly the bots, that raise the importance of subjects on twitter. Soon it will be reported by the black hats, Elon Musk Murder Is number one on the topics list. More propaganda.