The fact that "they" don't want the plebs to eat meat, to me, is proof enough we should be eating meat.

Couple of relevant posts:

https://greatawakening.win/p/16a9zhnVf1/might-be-offtopic-but-lets-just-/

https://greatawakening.win/p/16a9gx8Wsj/a-baby-was-losing-weight-and-vom/c/

if God didnt want us to eat meat..he wouldnt have made it taste so good....

I went plant-based a long time ago. During that time I joined the Army. Long story short, I was always weak, fatigued, low energy, low strength, and could never recover from workouts and training in a reasonable timeframe. I was a semi-pro athlete before all that and never had those kinds of problems.

Fast forward to now: I am post-carnivore(because that has its own issues) and have a lot of issues with my digestive system. A lot of my issues with energy, strength, and stamina have been resolved, but there's many more issues that just don't seem to go away.

If you ask me, throw veganism and any other plant-based diet ideas to the bottom of the sea, cause humans were made to eat animals.

Just imagine a survival situation. You will die eating just plants. It is only with modern agriculture and tons of transportation that you can have a diverse enough vegan diet to somewhat sustain a human. Animal products are food. Vegetation is minerals (if they don't bind them up or make them harder to digest). I say it all the time everywhere on here in case anyone doesn't know, I grow vegetables for a living but greatly advocate for the eating of animal products.

I used to rarely eat meat. I like to garden and just eat fresh. I was trying to get pregnant with no success. I went to a milk, cheese and meat heavy diet. I was pregnant two months later. I feel healthier and definitely stronger on a meat diet.

I read an article where a physician proved your body needs animal fat. He stated all the supposed "good" oils were bad for you. He linked taking the oils like coconut oil and olive oil and animal fat from your diet causes dementia and Alzheimer's.

He states you brain needs cholesterol. Cholesterol in the brain regulates many things. Do you remember they came out not too long ago stating that coconut oil was helping dementia and Alzheimer's patients?

If you go totally without animal protein, you will have to really be skilled in understanding how to substitute the same amount of plant-based protein in lieu of the animal protein or you will soon start to deteriorate. My son's fiancé is a vegan and is in the process of starting a vegan meal prep company as a business. Her meals are packed with protein, but she has been studying it for years. She is also a fitness trainer and is extremely strong, lifting weights in the gym even heavier than some men. She also has great endurance, being able to hike or row a boat with the best of them. Although to look at her, she doesn't even look muscular at all, which is odd, but may be from the veganism.

However, there are very many YouTube channels where you can watch the 'healthy people' decide to go vegan and prepare all of these luscious veggies and fruit dishes and eat them, but over months and years as they document their progress, they become increasingly emaciated, their hair goes gray and gets thin, their teeth fall out and they become a shadow of their former self. Many complain of brain fog, headaches, etc. It is crazy. There were a few compilation videos I watched where the person showed before and afters of all of these Youtubers who were fit and good-looking before they went vegan and then looked like they were dying of cancer after a year or two on the vegan plan. I tried to find those particular videos, but I couldn't those specific ones.

The point is, there is a way to do it. But most people don't know how.

Educate yourself and good luck!

GOD gave us plants and animals to sustain and heal us, for us to use wisely and to share.. I also believe that gluttony is a sin and that we can use plants or animals to sin.

Vegans need supplements to survive, I'm guessing this is not the way humans are supposed to eat.

I tried a raw vegan diet for a month. At first I was fine, but then eventually I gave up strength exercise because I had no power or recovery.

Animals, like deer, that are prey have their eyes on the sides of their heads so they can watch both sides for predators while they graze for plants.

Animals, like lions, that hunt for prey have their eyes on the front of their heads, so they can better find and chase their prey.

Where are your eyes located?

Pay extra for clean foods.

Eat a varied diet. Include NUTS, SEEDS. Organ Meats, clean meats, eggs. Restrict sugar. Restrict most breads- there are ancient grains! Drink RO filtered water.

NO ALCOHOL (it is poison). RAW MILK if possible. Yogurt, Kraut, fermented foods for gut health. Vegetables and fruits should be organic.

Detox regularly with bentonite clay, zeolite, activated charcoal, chlorella. add psyllium husk to clean intestines. Aloe Vera juice.

Eat within an 8 hour time frame.

There's a place on Earth for ALL of God's glorious animals...

... right next to the mashed potatoes and broccoli...

Knock yourself out, do as you wish. Veganism was a social psy op originally hatched in the Tavistock Institute ... "Can we successfully convince man to eat like a rabbit instead of a species appropriate diet?" And so it was unleashed first among the more cultic and hippie sub groups as test beds. It was successful despite vegans wasting away nutritionally and congitively in the long term. In fact, in the long term a vegan diet which leads to cognitive decline makes individuals more susceptible to even more BS ideologies. Their brains are literally starved for brain specific nutrients that are absorbable in their diet, so neurotransmitters and such will be sub optimal by definition.

So then it became a mainstream acceptable diet narrative. "Plant based" to soften the stigma of eating like crazy unstable vegans.

I'm also seeing many people debating that in the bible God says that fruits are our meat. Others are saying that God only allowed us to eat meat after Adam and Eva sinned.

Yeah that's part of the psy op is dragging the bible into these diet wars. No, there's nothing in the bible that specifically states Adam and Eve only ate fruit before they sinned. The narrative was merely focused on the distinction of different fruit trees to highlight the stipulations of Adam and Eve's tenure in the garden. There are Psalms reflecting on the goodness of God's original creation (apart from sin) and includes the goodness of the predator lion hunting for his prey.

The husband of one my nieces is from Sri Lanka (Tamil). He was raised vegetarian. When he met his future wife (we are big meat eaters hehehe) he discovered a whole world he'd been missing. He regretted having been vegetarian for so long, both for the taste and the health benefits. He said he would likely have been taller if he wasn't deprived of a source of protein.

We all wind up as food at the end of our existence. My body, for example, is going to make a tasty meal for some worms and bacteria. Eating meat is not wrong. The question is two fold: the ethics of ending an animal's life early (rather than "natural" causes), and how the animal lived.

For me, personally, as long as you allow that pig to experience the fullness of being a pig while he is alive, then there is no issue in eating him. It is much more about how we live than how we die.

The more important question then becomes can we ethically terminate an animal's life early in order to meet our own needs for sustenance? And this really becomes a value choice, because there is no simple answer to this question. For billions of years this is how the food chain on earth has worked. Seems kind of ridiculous to say it is wrong. But some people insist that we are on a trajectory of "progress" and meat eating is an anachronism. If that is your value then I support your right to have it, but it isn't mine.

Also consider that ruminants can eat a lot of food sources that we can't digest, so don't talk to me about the efficiency of eating plants vs. animals. As my friend likes to say, don't you dare eat the food of my food. The food chain is a chain for a reason. Not everyone does well digesting vegetable sources of protein, and its form and concentration in meat can be extremely valuable for health.

The conclusion then, is we have to stop the torture of industrial farming of animals. That is morally and ethically wrong. Cows, for example, need to be farm finished, not sold to feed lots to be tortured for the final 6 months of their lives. But I reject the notion that a bacon cheeseburger is a sin. That is just ridiculous. And no, cow farts aren't responsible for global warming.

As an advantage, by stopping the abhorrent practice of feedlots before slaughter, we also remove one of the biggest sources of centralization of our food supply chain that is transferring massive amounts of the high prices consumers pay to deep state conglomerates rather than small, independent ranchers where it rightfully belongs.

I was a vegearian for 46 years and for the last year, I am living under the original commandments and eating meat-beef I find most edible and I have lost weight, and, at 77, am grateful my pooping has returned to a more normal way. This is a relief to me....shoulda done it years ago, since it didn't help my diabetes at all..

I did the opposite with my dad. Went completely carnivore! After 3 years all blood markers have improved on our blood tests. Lost weight too. 275 down to 184. Got off 4 medications including statins! For me vegetables are completely useless. Also zero food waste, can’t say that with a vegan diet, they are wasting tons of food literally.

Double cheeseburgers;)

It isn't healthy, and will emaciate you in the long run. Your body needs animal protein, period.

Your teeth tell you that you are an omnivore. Meat is supposed to be on the menu.

Seen different docs say the unhealthiest patients they have are vegan

If it were meant to be why would so many supplements also be required?

As a detox, good plan. But our systems are biologically meant to eat variety, including fish, fowl and meats. Biochemically, there are essential proteins and amino acids etc from animals that we cannot synthesize enough of on our own.

The Jews weren't vegan and in the Acts, isn't Peter told that none of the animals would make anyone unclean anymore?

Veganism is not for humans. We are omnivores, meaning we can digest all kinds of food. Veganism is not healthy at all. Especially for children.

I started looking into the anti-veganism community on YouTube back in 2020, the community is majority people who use to be hardcore vegans for years, some most of their lives. They quit because due to sickness from lack of proper nutrients, some had severe anemia, brain fog, fatigue, constant hunger, fertility issues, and other issues from lack of vitamins that only animal food products have.

Meat and other animal byproducts are more bioavailable to our bodies, meaning we absorb the nutrients from animals more than plants, about 20% compared to plants less than 1%. Which is why vegans have to eat large amounts of plant foods to equal out to what you can get to a small portion of meat. Meat protein will always be superior because we don't have to eat much of it to get the protein and it's also a complete protein compared to plant protein which lacks proper amino acids and has to be eaten in large quantities because of the lack of bioavailability percentage. Meat iron (heme iron) and plant (non-heme iron) are also not the same, you can't absorb plant iron without meat iron.

So, my opinion on veganism is that's it's okay temporary, if you're detoxing from a standard American junk food diet. Obviously, you'll feel great for a bit, maybe even a few years and then once the nutrients from the animal products your body had stored are depleted you'll start getting sick.

You can accomplish a proper detox from junk food by just eating a balanced whole food diet, that includes meat, a simple carb, and vegetable. Meals don't have to be complicated.

Another thing to take into account is the fact that globalist are pushing veganism. That's a huge sign it's most likely not good.

As for what it says in the Bible, I'm not very religious, but the biggest thing I do believe in is nature and I'm going to listen to what my body needs. I do believe that animal meat is the true superfood, especially organ meat. Since, I started consuming more meat and organ meat, I don't get sick...like at all.

Seems to me that plants are a part time food. Plants are medicine, they are sub optimal but an emergency type food that needs the proper preparation to remove things like oxalates, anti nutrients and defense chemicals. Many plants have their nutrition locked up and it requires more of the body’s resources to make those nutrients available.

Meat on the other hand has nutrients that are more bio available. I think this is why people on all meat zero carb diets dont have vitamin c problems. When you don’t need a mountain of nutrients just to help break down all the locked up nutrients in plants, you need less of those nutrients. That’s probably why vegans decay into withered undead, their body is leeched of its resources to digest those kale smoothies they love.

Gimme a steak any day, plants are what my food eats.

Animals eat hay so we don't have to -- and can't digest.

Personally, I believe in eating meat. As a Christian, I think it's quite possible that originally, we weren't meant to because eating animals includes the act of violence of killing them in order to eat them. But after the fall, and sin entered the world, it was that very act of violence that allowed the innocent animal's blood to be spilled - which was the original penance for sin. (It was symbolic of Jesus's coming crucifixion and sacrifice - that He and His innocent blood would once, for all, be the sacrifice for all mankind.)

Jesus Himself said that it didn't matter what we ate (I'm talking about in terms of food) There were no prohibitions because it went into our bodies then came out of our bodies. And I believe there are nutrients and benefits you get from animal flesh that you don't from a 100% plant based diet. Btw, I was a vegetarian for a number of years. Good luck with your decision. Oh, as for the fruits being our meal, how many fruits grow in your region? These days, we can (and do) get fruit from around the world. Fruit from outside our regions (like bananas and pineapples and oranges, etc.) so do those get included? It's a lot to think about if you're not careful. And fruits alone obviously wouldn't give you all you need. Best wishes.

I'ma just pour me a nice glass of "MEAT!" to drink.

Think of all the animals you will save. They should not have to die for us and yes I am being a hypocrite because I eat meat. Many times I wish I didnt just for the sake of the animals.

The bible says nothing about eating just fruits but it does say humans have dominion over the animals. I would guess that to mean we can use them for work or food or what ever we need them for.

We eat meat. Our bodies can fully absorb the nutrients in meat and we need the cholesterol for our brains (which is made of cholesterol).

We can only absorb 20% of the nutrients in plants. There are many components in meat you don't get from plants or fruits. Becoming vegan is a sure way of rapid aging and developing kidney problems (from OXALATES).

Plants are anti-nutrients.

There are several compounds in the foods we eat classified as anti-nutrients. Examples include:

Glucosinolates and goitrogens in cruciferous vegetables (broccoli, Brussels sprouts, cabbage, kale)—can prevent the absorption of iodine, which may then interfere with thyroid function and cause goiter. Those already with an iodine deficiency or a condition called hypothyroidism are most susceptible.

Lectins in legumes (beans, peanuts, soybeans), whole grains—can interfere with the absorption of calcium, iron, phosphorus, and zinc.

Oxalates in green leafy vegetables, tea, beans, nuts, beets—can bind to calcium and prevent it from being absorbed.

Phytates (phytic acid) in whole grains, seeds, legumes, some nuts—can decrease the absorption of iron, zinc, magnesium, and calcium. [2,3] Saponins in legumes, whole grains—can interfere with normal nutrient absorption.

Tannins in tea, coffee, legumes—can decrease iron absorption. It is not known how much nutrient loss occurs in our diets because of anti-nutrients, and the effects vary among individuals based on their metabolism and how the food is cooked and prepared.

Check out Vegan Deterioration "Vegan Mom Delusional And Blind" https://youtu.be/D6coVXQuIY4

There is a good reason why God makes chicken lay eggs everyday.

Also, if you want to throw in the Bible.. millions of rodents are killed during farming of vegetables, and most of the vegetables and fruits now are man-made. Filled with pesticides and not natural. They're not grown in the wild. Look at the native or wild Brocolli, banana or carrots, they look different from the ones you get from the supermarket.

If you're a vegan you'll ended up taking 20 different pills a day , that's the most unnatural man made thing a human can do.

Have you ever seen those native tribes in isolated islands? They're all lean and strong with health strong white teeth. Do you know why? Because they're carnivores. Vegans also get bad teeth in the long run as a bonus.

Let me put it this way. The best I’ve ever felt In my life were the times where I was fasting or eating nothing but meat at all.

Meat is gold and silver veggies are fiat

Vegans seems to fit their agenda. If they'll eat lobster and steaks and tell us bugs question it. I think when we stopped nose to tail eating we lost many of the benefits too. Look at bone stock etc and all the vitamins and minerals. Also vegans seems very unhealthy without 'supplements'

Here's my argument:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DcR3MsI0us