I keep seeing reports/stories about videos that are faking the violence, as in "Wag the Dog." I am wondering what the truth is and if anyone can set the record straight because that's what we do here (and when I say "we" , I mean Frogs who are badass researchers beyond my ability).
So, some possibilities:
-
Hamas actually staged an attack and killed a lot of people.
-
There was no attack, but Israel staged its own false flag and no one was hurt, but "video" shows death and destruction.
-
Israel allowed Hamas to conduct a real attack and people died.
-
Other options?
I am curious to know if there is consensus among Anons (not that we need consensus, but it is powerful when we do have it).
Other options?
Hamas is Mossad and CIA
Serves to totally eradicate Palestine (Greater Israel Project)
Pretext to war with Iran.
Serves the "VICTIM" narrative
Moves $$$$ into the controllers coffers via WAR
yep username checks. It's this. This is the answer.
Horseshit.
Mostly grass & grain
And the occasional magic mushroom…
You need to find a new source.
It's the most effective kind of false flag attack. The kind where they kill real innocent people.
There is a difference between a hoax….. 6 million for example … and a false flag like 9/11
I know it’s confusing for some. But we really have to learn the difference. People die in false flags… no one dies or it gets overblown and exaggerated on a hoax.
Agreed. So you're saying that people died in this FF, eventhough there are stories and videos about staged death, injury, etc.? I'm not arguing, just clarifying.
I think people died, especially at that festival that was meant to be about peace. Psychological warfare on the population because it instill fear and defeat towards a peaceful solution. So I’m going with false flag.
But out of this false flag we can see several hoaxes in order to inflame and further control the narrative.
Hope I make sense.
The "dummy" woman in the back of the pickup truck is alive in Palestine Hospital with severe head injury says her mother. Being reported now.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/10/mother-missing-german-tattoo-artist-says-shes-been/
"alive in a Gaza Hospital"? That sounds like a very VERY cruel joke.
Have heard Hamas is decapitating babies??? Is this real?
I still think they found the Planned Parenthood clinic.
apparently 4chan tried to find evidence and did not. Hard to say either way.
Who is 4chan?
The "dark web" were supposedly nothing is forbidden or edited, and consequently, nothing is organized. Q made his debut on either 4chan, or 8chan, and then moved to the other. (Lost in the midst of my mind.)
There's an awful lot of confusion here on what the term "false flag" means.
"False Flag" does not mean the incident is fake.
"False Flag" means that whoever did it made it look like somebody else did it. They used a "false flag" instead of their own flag.
The expression comes from the way pirates would sneak up on a cargo ship by flying, say, the flag of France. The cargo ship thinks they're friendly and lets them get close. Then the pirates yank down the French flag, hoist the Jolly Roger, board the ship, and steal everything.
They used a "false flag" - one that was not their own - to sneak in and carry out a real crime.
🛎🛎🛎. Precisely
Great clarification. Thanks.
I have family living in Israel, really close to Gaza. They claim at least one of the family's friends has died while defending his town, and I have no reason not to believe them. I also know for sure that this was a FF, or better, a planned event that is being milked by the media like crazy. They already tried the "dead babies" thing, I mean come on.. They are desperate. Because it is the Great War they are after. They need to get rid of us, and create chaos for their order.
Not saying it will work though, the part where Israel comes into play is the part we have all been waiting for.
They will use ever tool at their disposal to magnify the impact. Shills are putting out shit loads of faked videos. Lies and rumors abound. And then there are sheep on both sides that truly believe in the fake narratives and will shed blood and willingly sacrifice themselves to serve these lies.
I think its key to ignore the noise, the fog of war, and look towards what they could hope to achieve and I think u/TellsTruth nailed it.
Really died, dead, slaughtered by Hamas and crushed by Zionists. Lots of propaganda, true, but really dead. Cabal in Israel, Cabal in Islam, Cabal in USA, everywhere. Too many individual reports and recordings from citizens to deny it. People are terrorized, blood is on the ground, Satan is bold. Israel allowed it to happen, they knew, were warned, and took advantage of it, hoping to rid themselves of Palestine once and for all. I trust my gut on this one, and my gut told be from the beginning that any of these large scale atrocities are always manufactured, especially in this day and age, there are no surprises, just incidents that get approved to happen.
These govts & agencies have control & knowledge of EVERY phone call, text, smoke signal in this new surveillance state.
There is NOTHING by surprise anymore.
They planned it, knew about it, allowed it, wanted it to happen or it would not have.
What's the saying? All wars are banksters wars.
It's "bankers," but banksters sounds like gangsters and now that's what I'll use going forward.
This exactly. Often the gangster banksters fund both sides !
They don’t mind dead people but the 40 dead babies report was fake. Chopping off heads of babies? Really
Knowing what native Amerinds did to captives and babies, what Arabs did to their captives and babies, it's not unheard of, but in this instance it does sound pile-on, over-the-top.
It was Israel's turn to get rid of their deep state freemason luciferians.
Who benefits?
Is it worth 1000 dead Israelis to be forever rid of the Palestinians? Look at all that free land, now 100% Jewish State.
With water cut off, they'll have about 2 million bodies to dispose of next week.
Perhaps they'll use ovens.
It's worth it if they can get away with hoaxing the entire operation.
close friend says his nephew was at the dance party in the dessert. that part was for sure real. thats all I know for sure though., everything could be fabricated.
I've seen some people question that dance party because it has no evidence online. Could you maybe find out how the nephew wound up there?
I read on here last night that the music festival location was moved before the event to this location. If that is true it is notable.
I don't know if people died or anyone was attacked. I know there is a lot of propaganda being spread by multiple sources. The pic and a video I saw of victims looks fake to me. I hope that it's just a lie and no one got hurt. I really am more focused on America as Americans should be.
Has anyone seen pics or vids of dead bodies, I haven't yet.
This is actually one of the things that makes false flags so easy to do. Any video or images of the bodies shown (at least in the US) will be pixelated "to protect the families". It makes it extremely hard to prove.
I would bet that "hamas" are paid CIA/Mossad agents and that the deep state of US and Israel and other swamp infested nations ("intelligence" divisions) knew this was to happen, hence false flag.
doubt many, if any, actually died as a result
all this being stated, I don't think there is a consensus. we just keep absorbing info and decipher with a willingness to alter our opinions if new evidence arises that is cause for a renewed opinion
These comments should tell you that, no, there is no concensus. Just about everyone has a different take on it. One thing is apparent, HAMAS did attack Israel. Their comments about looking for some kind of peace deal because they had accomplished their mission is as good as a confession. Sauce?... https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/hamas-official-says-group-is-open-discussions-over-truce-with-israel-2023-10-09/
Is that definitely apparent, or only maybe apparent? :-)
Option 3 and they probably funded it.
Any large news story to me has been a set up. Example: How to Boil Lobster Bring a large pot of salted water to a boil: Fill a large pot 3/4 full of water. ... Lower the lobsters into the pot: Grasp the lobster by the body and lower it upside down and head first into the boiling water. ... Boil lobsters for 7 to 14 mins, depending on size: ... Remove the lobsters from pot to drain: American is being boiled alive
This sub:
"Palestine didn't actually attack Israel"
Also this sub:
"Palestinians pouring across the US border to attack Americans!!"
If I had to guess, especially based on what I’ve seen so far, the attacks were real and so was the death and destruction. Who exactly is behind it…. That’s where I am skeptical. I know the track record leading up to this and don’t believe it was just Hamas. Definitely a false flag, or an inside job, but by who exactly? That’s the question for me. The motives are all there for many options related to who.
All middle estern paths lead to Damascus. And while it is said there is no path to paradise shorter than that of jihad, one must question who's paradise this 'war' supports.
Answer: it's in the water
We know only what we're told, and ALL of the tellers are liars. So, what do we know? Nothing. We know nothing.