Berkey Filters sues the EPA (August 9, 2023)
Berkey Filters files suit against the EPA this week, represented by Norred Law, to stop the EPA's treatment of water filters as a pesticide. Berkey has sold its filters for two decades, but a few months ago, the EPA has decided without notice to treat Berk...
Matt Gatez put out a statement on this about a week ago. Silver is a common biocide and they put silver in their filters. I would use it. Water quality is my job. This is silly.
In clown world you’re allowed to buy actual pesticides and spray them openly, but you can’t buy a water filter that’s been classified as a pesticide.
White pine is excellent as well. A company here in Pennsylvania makes them. We used to do their packaging before my boss passed away.
They have a travel filter too. Incase anyone's looking for one I'll pop a link in here too. https://www.pinetreefilter.com/
It's kind of an adjacent job to my husband. He sells to water treatment plants.
I use the Berkey and like it. Glad they are suing the EPA.
The mother wefers have already said they were going after water and then this Burkey Filter thing dropped. Coordinated? They don't want us to be able to clean our water. Support the company that makes these systems because trying to legally fight this is going to hit them in the pocket book hard. If they fall, the rest of the companies that make decent water filtration systems will be next.
They don't want us filtering out the fluoride.
The Berkey flouride filters have been shown to stop working after a couple of months.
Using a Berkey for flouride filtering from the tap could end up meaning you are ingesting MORE flouride thinking you don't need to buy bottled spring water etc.
Ignore all marketing BS and test for yourself. Always.
Yeah I don't trust berkey
They are shit. RO is the only way to get rid of fluoride
We got rid of ours after a year of use.
I have the same complaint lol. Some times I have to just fill it a little then knock it around a bit to get the air out so it flows properly.
I go from a brita to a zerowater to a Berkey just to keep the black charcoal Berkey elements in good shape as long as possible.
All the complaints about berkeys are related to two things: their white fluoride filters and the counterfeit Chinese black carbon filters. The genuine Berkey black element filters are legit, I've been using them for many years now. Don't believe the EPA nonsense. Genuine black carbon Berkeys filter out PFAS and vinyl chloride. I wish they filtered glyphosate better is my only complaint
I have the big Berkey.
When my well pump broke, I just brought up water from the lake. Drank it straight from the the filter.
They work excellent.
But the price has gone up insanely on them for what they are. I paid like $60 new for mine over ten years ago.
Same one now is like $500
There isn't anything to it, a few charcoal filters and a couple tanks and a plastic tap.
I paid $50 more for the stainless steel tap
When you say it's "like" $500, is that because it's fiat currency or because it's priced in Euros or some other currency?
US dollar
I just use a tabletop water distiller. It's the only way to be sure you're removing everything anyway. Filters are so expensive, and who knows how well they're actually removing trace elements of fluoride and other contaminants, especially after they've been used for weeks or months.
Reverse Osmosis filter system is pretty good. If WHO and Forbes are against that particular water filter system than it means it's good for you.
What about the minerals you get from water? Do you put them back in?
I use a remineralization filter. It's about 20 bucks on Amazon.
Minerals from the tap water? I don't think there are any substantial amount from recycled water in the cities. The best water is spring water that's close to mountains.
Put an electrolyzer inside the tap water and you'll see what fills up your body. Best thing you can do is to distill your water.
https://youtu.be/9tmNWRNuzro
Yes? Calcium, magnesium, and potassium and those are kiiiiiiiind of important.
The amounts are so so small in tap water. If you want minerals (and you need them) get them from your food or a mineral supplement (or of course clean mountain spring water but again it is miniscule compared to food or supplements.)
I take in a lot of magnesium and potassium (over a gram a day) as supplements and rarely take in magnesium. Make sure to take in enough k2 to help remove excess calcium.
storebought or diy? lol
megahome distiller storebought
ah, okay.
Just curious.
I've dinked around with diy distillation in the past. Been playing around with the idea of a solar still, but haven't gotten around to it.
My aunt (water purification specialist) has the big Berkey at home and the travel Berkey for daily use. She tested the filtered water that it produces and it's the cleanest water that you can get at home without a reverse osmosis setup, which is only marginally cleaner. I have the big Berkey at home and swear by it.
They hate us
There is also a water filter called "zero water" and I have used TDS meters on the filtered water ir produces, And it was indeed 0 total dissolved solids...aka TDS. Which is contaminants and all sorts of things. And the pitcher style filter works similarly to a Britta.
You use a Trump Derangement Syndrome meter on water?
I have one too and I run the water from my Berkey through it as the Berkey lets minerals pass through. But the zero filters are like 15 bucks and I change them every 2 weeks (for a 3 person household). Gonna have to do reverse osmosis I think and keep the Berkey for emergencies.
This is what I have also, though I have the 32 cup container that sits on my counter. It would take up too much room in my frig.
I've seen some criticism of Berkey going around, but the EPA wanting to go after them gives me a lot of confidence that they make a good filter.
Over the target, EXACTLY.
picked up a Travel Berkey a month ago along with 3 sets of replacement filters and 3 sets of fluoride filters. filters around 2 gallons per hour.
I am very impressed with it and the water is delicious. been also using it in the coffee maker. definitely a difference in taste.
95% of what I drink is tap water, and I've been dragging my feet too long about not having purification, so this morning, after seeing this post I ordered a Travel Berkey.
Now I'm reading that it doesn't filter fluoride, so can you please let me know about the fluoride filters in your comment? It says it comes with two "Berkey Black Elements." Until I get the thing and take a look at it, I don't understand how it works; can I somehow add an additional fluoride filter to it? I'm confused.
Yes, there is a separate set of filters (white ones) that filter fluoride and other contaminants. When you get it, you'll see there are extra openings for the additional filters.
the black filters are in the hopper that the tap water goes into. water filters thru those into the “new” water chamber. you can screw the fluoride filters to the bottom of the black filters that goes thru the chamber separator. once you put it together you’ll see how it works.
We’ve had a Berkey for six years. Great water. We’re buying some replacement filters in case they’re forced to go out of business. Screw the EPA.
Have you been able to find any for sale anywhere? If so, link here, please! I’ve been looking everywhere for weeks when I heard about this.
Check youtube on cleaning them. You just put compressed air in the bottom and blow the gunk out. Guy said they last forever and don‘t lose effictiveness.
Found it https://youtu.be/cb9tfUIAx90?si=AwZJcpbinKLOBImC
Weird. Makes me wonder if “Watch the Water” may mean they are putting shit in the water that needs to be filtered out.
I love my Berky water filter. And so does the family and the dog.
In California, the larger Berky Filters were banned with some stupid legal rhetoric.
So we bought a smaller size and use it every single day.
I saw a show where someone tested many filters. And Berky came out on top.
Check ppm and fluoride on berky vs tap. I checked and it's still tap water. Ppm change is minimal. Fluoride still in there.
It's a scam.
We use the regular filter AND a fluoride filter at the same time. There's a port for two filters.
Yep. Did you check ppm and fluoride readings yet? Here are my readings. Berkey doesn't fully remove fluoride. What's your PPM?
RO is by far the best.
Tap Water: 260 ppm/1.7ppm fluoride
ION water system 188 ppm/0.8 fluoride
Spring Geyser spring water 140 ppm/0.3 fluoride
Big Berkey 180ppm/0.3 fluoride
Reverse Osmosis 17ppm/0.0 fluoride (17 ppm is the minerals re added to water)Reverse Osmosis in combo
Reverse Osmosis with Refrigerator Filter (16ppm/0.0 fluoride) 16ppm/0.0 fluoride
I have a medical grade chemistry facility in my kitchen, and the Berky tested negative! LOL
Lol. You can get a ppm meter for cheap. The fluoride tester that's pretty pricey. I guess anything better then tap.
We bought one from mypatriotsupply because it gets great reviews and is cheaper. We live in an area with a lot of swamps and want to make sure if the SHTF that we. can get drinking water. Whatever anyone decides, act now while you can. And hold up, how can the EPA ban anything? They're an unelected body.
The one problem I have with Berkey filters is they don't remove fluoride(according to Berkey) which is in almost all public water in the U.S. I had to get Alexapure filters to use instead of Berkey. I use the gravity fed filters.
I've got Alexapure as well and have been happy with it.
Berkey sells flouride filters too, we have them.
It’s like the ATF and Firearms. The alleged “experts” don’t know shit about the stuff they are allegedly subject matter experts on and are supposed to regulate. I’ve met countermen at local Gunshops who are more knowledgeable. And I know for a fact some of them don’t know much about firearms. They are just there to sell the store inventory.
have had them for a couple decades now. deffinitely recommend.. you can even make your own system and just use their filters in it if you're handy with tools.
What’s even more infuriating is that the EPA decided to change the guidelines of what they regulate in order to do this. Because Berkey filters filter out viruses, including SARS Cov-2, they’ve decided that Berkey’s natural, mechanical filter is a “pesticide”. Therefore these unelected egotistical tyrants have given themselves permission to be able to deem the filter a “pesticide” and gave themselves jurisdiction to regulate it, i.e., immediately ban the sale of it anywhere. They must be planning something. WATCH THE WATER.
Axe-murderer Gates is talking about including mRNA DeathVaXXX in water systems. Why else would EPA ban it after 25 years? It works against mRNA pollutants in the water supply.
I'm getting one (they're still available) now. If the EPA doesn't want us to have it, it must be good.
Never heard of these, checked out the website, looks like good stuff.
I’m so mad about this. We use Berkey to clear out the PFAS & hormones from our water. This is the only filter on the market that I know of that you could put dirty pond water in and get completely clean drinking water. The people should have a right to clean water. The EPA is clearly being weaponized against the people. This should be criminal!
I’ve had my Big Berkey for more than twenty-five years. It’s packed in heavy poly and sealed with duct tape. I have an extra set of filters similarly packed. I break it out every year or so, run a few fills of water through it, dry out the filters and pack it back up.
Mrs. Ancroidubh has a friend who keeps one on the kitchen counter.
This is a wake-up for me to get another set of filters.
BTW, the Berkefeld filter history goes back to 1835 when Queen Victoria asked the Doulton pottery works to make a ceramic water filter because she was rightly afraid of cholera.
In 1998, New Millennium Concepts made a distribution deal for the USA with BB. NMC pushed the development of the “Black Berkey” filter candle.
My own history with BB goes back to the 1990s living in Florida. Contaminated municipal water supplies are a real danger in the aftermath of hurricanes and tornados. I bought mine from an imported I no longer remember.
Pond water —> coarse filter to strain out the big chunks —> British Berkefeld —> six drops per gallon of plain Clorox == safe drinking water!
Berky has some shady dealings with how they test their filters, I went down the rabbit hole a few months ago and ended up buying one of these instead:
https://aquatruwater.com/product/countertop-reverse-osmosis-water-purifier/
Very happy with it.
Watch out folks - they'll be banning REVERSE OSMOSIS water filters next, and if they do so, it will be killdozer time at every EPA office in the country.
"If the EPA wants to regulate gravity-fed mechanical water filters, it has a process to follow, at the very least. "
PUR had something going on during the shortages of the pandemic for awhile. Their original boxes (dark blue) said it could filter out microorganisms like microbial cysts, giardia iamblia, and cryptosporidium. There was a shortage of replacement filters for quite awhile for PUR systems and they were hard to find but when they came back they were now in a new box (teal) and they no longer say they can remove the microorganisms. I know this because I kept the original blue box and am looking at it now.
I bring this up because I never could figure out why or what happened with PUR but always thought of how there were rumors of gov wanting to put things in the water (vaccines) or how the vaccines contained parasites. Maybe someone sued them for thinking it could filter out Covid and they still got sick, lol? PUR is still around, but they had to change something they were doing. I still use them and they seem to be good so for those who need an alternative to the expensive Berky. They are better than a Brita - who by the way wants to eliminate their competition and tried blocking competitors business.
Also, there are a ton of tutorials out there on how to make your own filters and there are even refillable ones just like the Brita and PUR brand.
Why does the EPA stand against the cleanest water possible?
They also remove fluoride from the water. I wondered what was up when I recommended this to a friend and none were available.