Mods? Could you please sticky a J13 thread so we can have an organized area of information to research or add to? More information is coming in fast and need a central hub.
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I am looking into videos last week of Dems being asked about Biden. Manchin said “let’s wait and see what this weekend brings.” And “let’s see next week.” I heard Pelosi say this and am trying to find the video.
The mainstream media has not had a live show of Trump's rally in a long time. Then, all of a sudden, they all have their campers going live to video President Trump's head being blown off.
Someone made a comment and it was the first thing I thought when they were interviewing the guy with the red hat, “why is BBC at the rally?”
MajorOddities (red flags) from the July 13, 2024 Butler Trump Rally:
https://media.128ducks.com/file_store/e1048052e000e36fe799c4b70c7a9c0585bb62dd4429cde47df9158334fcfe19.png
Perfect!
#3.... Watch THIS
that was the worst analysis ive ever seen.
was the guy that made that video on drugs? got halfway and he gave me a headache trying to wrap my head around his arlen specter theories. (wasn't arlen from pennsylvania as well?)
Surely military intelligence/Q team was monitoring this. No way did they miss this.
There is way more to this than we know.
Curious if we will hear anything from Q now?
Highly doubt it. Future proves past is in full effect. They can't update anymore because it might expose the movie. Plus gives media more ammo
No way Space Force wasn’t monitoring this.
Exactly. Remember CIC Trump told us he will never reveal what are his plans.
That definitely is an oddity. Especially since this was even a much smaller rally than usual.
Exceedingly good point anon.
https://x.com/inthematrixxx/status/1813224388398874785?s=46&t=vcYNcYbFP8WXuSx5DLwHxA
Above. New video from bleachers. Shots hit the railings.
Riddle me this one
Beneath that video above in the comment sections:
Gunmen points gun at Trump while he enters the vehicle, wtf?
https://x.com/intheMatrixxx/status/1813293803257631112
Angle looks deceiving. Appears to me he is cover the left side of the vehicle with his muzzle and not pointing it into the car.
that makes sense, ty
Looks to me like an exit wound to the guy wearing the black t-shirt with his hand on the railing. In a split-second he doesn't realize he's been shot... and then goes down. In other footage, as they are removing Trump from the stage you can see people up in that corner trying to flag down others for help.
Today’s RedPill78 shows phone video from two people attending rally. Time stamp 1:44:22
It looks like there was another shooter from behind the bleachers where the men were shot. Opposite side of where the roof shooter was. You see puffs first, then the men go down. Not the men go down, then the puffs (shots possibly hitting railing).
Rally attenders saying shots came from the back.
That looks like it is the completely wrong angle. Looks like the shot comes from the right of the screen, but the shooter was on the left of the screen.
Actually maybe it did come from the other side. I need the red strings like they set up on the CSI shows...
All of the media were there to film Trump.
Aren't lots of media - including legacy - always at Trump's rallies? I mean, he is living rent-free in all their filthy satanic heads!
No. They don’t like giving him the air time. This is the first time in years I believe.
Isn't that fishy or no. I was watching on Real America's Voice, I had no idea they were airing it to the mainstream -
The only counter I will give here is that - I have seen CNN reporters at the last Trump rally I went to. Whether or not they were live reporting or just capturing sound bites is a different story. But they were absolutely there.
Trump always makes it a point to point out the fake news media and that they never turn the cameras around to show the crowds. And their lights go off when he says that. Never been to a rally so I can't confirm it but he says it at almost every rally.
yes, media is always at Trump rallies. I have dedicated campaign reporters who go to every stop candidate goes to.
if they broadcast it live is a differenr question.
I’m adding my post information to this thread so that other anions can dissect the hell out of it and maybe look at other post on X that might give us advance warning of other attempts. DS knew in advance per AS January tweet with bullet hole in glass and cash images. Look at the cash, yes I know it adds up to 47. But look at the bills that are used and how they are arranged. The single digit bills (1st number) 1+1+5=7. The double digit bills(second number) -exactly as displayed, read it left to right, 01+02+10=13. July 13th. Any item- red hat, Trump’s hairdo, or two $20 bills, and just a $5 bill would have conveyed the message, there was no need to equal 47. Take into account that AS is now at the wheel and has visited FJB many times during his presidency, who is in control of SS. How msm decided to show this rally live, FJB being uncharacteristically coherent during his short presser afterwards, Obama’s quick tweet, the timing of the first debate along with the attempt right before the RNC. Oh, and just a little side note, the reason for the existence of the SS was to counteract counterfeit money. Can you say signaling untrained and/or infiltrated SS? Of course this is all conjecture on my part… probably just a coincidence, right?
Thanks for posting this! Theories come together as pieces of the puzzle. Is it logical? Does it fit? This is our record. Not the Warren type commission Washington may have.
That ‘s a lot of coincidences…
don't stop being you, anon.
They could have been in trouble for simple election fraud. Now add attempted assassination plot. Kenya, here comes bam bam.
The FBI guy said it would be a lengthy investigation. It seemed odd to me at the time that he did not use the word thorough. I suspect the FBI will investigate to hide the truth, not find it.
Why they would give this to the FBI? They are the worst investigators. The info on this board is way more accurate than what the FBI puts out. We know what it's going to be "lone gunman, mental illness, no friends" blah blah blah - I was to see a copy of his phone and home computer
J6 (+7) J13 .. J20 next?
that would be January 20th?
You mean this Sat with the just announced rally?
Who are the snipers on the roof behind Trump. Did one of them kill the shooter?
Were there 2 shooters or more? Where did the ladder come from? When was it placed there? Media said he brought it in his car. Atleast a 10 ft ladder and heavy.
Extra protection was denied Trump.
FBI can’t find a motive.
The water tower.
The dude in the suit that is directing press and people away from the back of the stage seconds before shots fired. Who is he? He was hunched over when speaking to those people.
FBI can’t find a motive.
Being intellectually honest about this statement, it really means evidence of the motive. It sounds so stupid because the motive seems obvious in light of the rhetoric of the left. However, other possible motives could be he was paid to do it, blackmailed, brainwashed, MK Ultra'd, personally aggrieved by Trump real or perceived, etc.., all just as possible as the obvious "Was radicalized by leftist talking points about Trump".
So if we just pretend for a minute the FBI is competent and honestly investigating then it's actually not that dumb to say they don't have a motive yet..
But yeah I don't trust them, and highly doubt this will be investigated properly.
I mean; I think what they mean by that is there's no concrete & specific evidence of a motive. i.e.; did he hate Trump because of a particular issue? Does he truly think Trumps' tweets are too mean (not joking) etc?
I think that's what's meant.
FBIFIBWe know who was REALLY behind it.
......and there's a Wikileaks database with terabytes worth of motive.
I believe that's USSS, and apparently their position was elevated even higher than the shooter, yet they STILL didn't react appropriately.
Great question; what IS the USSS' ROE?
Erik Prince was on ValueTainment (amazing channel) saying apparently they must have a "do not shoot first" ROE, because that's exactly hat they did; literally waited for this fag to fire off multiple shots, THEN USSS shot, and may have been the fatal shot to him.
I'm not sure exactly yet who was the fatal shot.
Oh, also; don't they ever have any ISR assets in-air for POTUS events????? Forget a helo; maybe one or 2 on standby; don't they have any ISR drones circling a few thousand feet????
If not, should become standard practice........for TRUMP ONLY.
ETA: Here's the Erik Prince / ValueTainement interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXJmCUi0Mlk
Patrick Bet-David & his ValueTainment channel is AMAZING. Very well worth exploring his many other videos.
The Secret Service does not need permission to kill / shoot first. The SS even released a statement yesterday clarifying this.
Any chance you have handy a link where they said this?
I'd really love to see that. I will go search now also.....
"do not shoot first" rules of engagement seems crazy to me, for what are supposed to be the elite of the elite.. but let's go with that. It still makes zero sense why they would not have gotten Trump OFF that stage as soon as they saw him. Or at the very least surround Trump with agents.
This is what I've been saying, too! I can even accept not shooting the guy upon spotting him, but the Protectee should have been evacuated immediately upon discovery of a threat like that.
Seems crazy because it is crazy. Just as crazy as Cheatle saying “We didn’t have SS stationed on the roof the shooter was on because it’s slope would be unsafe for the agent to stand on”.
Both obvious cover lies. Well, obvious to anyone with an IQ higher than their body temperature.
Yet all pictures of the aftermath have people standing around on the roof without ropes to keep them on. They are... standing there.
Please.....please...... I'm begging you....... please do NOT tell me she ACTUALLY said that....... please..... I can't....... I won't be able to handle it.....
Yes she did-
https://x.com/vigilantfox/status/1813261084859724059?s=42
Thanks for the link;
LOCAL POLICE WERE INSIDE THE BUILDING WHERE THE SHOOTER CLIMBED UP ONTO THE ROOF?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Holy fucking fuck.
They did say that.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/07/wth-secret-service-now-saying-they-didnt-put/
"Elite of the elite" is barely half of it; I can't honestly comprehend they would have such a policy when their LITERAL ENTIRE PUROPSE FOR EXISTENCE is to PROTECT people from other people with guns.
So, they'd do exactly the same for Bush? Cheney? Hussein?
If USSS saw - exactly as happened with Trump - a person pop out from a corner aiming an AR15 square at USSS / and or their protectee; we're supposed to believe they'd WAIT for the perp to shoot first, before engaging?!?!?!?!
Or before doing much of anything, in Trump's case......esp. the women.... 🙄🙄😑😐
Absolutely insane...
Maybe this really was part of The Show / Plan??? What do you think?? I already started a thread on that; https://greatawakening.win/p/17teNkFQ7L/
I was interested in the interview saying there was a sniper in the direction of the water tower…maybe in the woods…
maps of trump rally interview w attendees
Regarding The dude directing press away from the back of the stage:
My only thoughts on that, are whether shots came from the roof guy or from a water tower, they were not in the way at all. Trump was elevated on the stage, and those people would in no way have blocked the shot. (But if he was SS, then he failed because he ducks and covers and doesn't immediately go to protect Trump)
Why was he directing them away from the stage? Do you have a theory?
From the look of it, it seems they just weren't supposed to be there. If you're protecting someone you want any possible threats to be on as few sides of you as possible.. but then that doesn't make as much sense because the person taking that video was just on the other side of that low fence, and they were not asked to move. So I guess I don't really have a great explanation, just that I disagree with the speculation that it was to allow the shooter a clearer shot.
Who are the multicam-clad operators we see in some videos? See below links for a couple photos I found with a quick search.
The agents you see in all black, full battle rattle with AR-15s; that's USSS CAT (Counter Assault Team). CAT has ALWAYS dressed in 100% pure black; ZERO camo / non-black attire, accessories, weapons; none of it.
EVERYTHING on them is 100% black.
It stands to reason that the multicam dudes are not USSS; so who are they?
There are I think at least 2 video clips I've seen where you see what i believe are 2 different agents / operators in full battle rattle, but multicam.
One of them jumped on stage after the all-black USSS CAT agent, another can be seen walking somewhere in that field, away from any people.
Is that Military? i know that SOF; Delta, SEALs, etc. absolutely pull security for POTUS on certain (most??) overseas trips, but would they be allowed to do so on US Soil? (Posse Comitatus)
https://files.catbox.moe/7b3d8j.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/1wz4p9.jpg
Kamala and Jill both in PA for events that took SS.
Nicky Haley invited to speak late last week. Then invitation rescinded Sunday.
The plan was for Haley to slide into the candidacy following a successful...operation. I don't know how the rest of you perceived it, but opening night of the RNC felt like like this:
The event made schedules and plans for Trump, but some points seemed lackluster in execution, except for Trump's entrance of course. This leads me to believe there was a large swathe of individuals who were unprepared for the failed assassination attempt.
MSNBC's short interview with Don Jr. seemed like they had other talking points prepared, but had to scrap and improvise. Therefore, the guy asking questions resorted to passive-aggressive worn out topics.
All of the MSM decided to revert to an angry tone, and not necessarily towards the actual violence that occurred on July 13th. The mood in the media talking heads is more than just a pretense of sadness and melancholy; it's disappointment.
The phrase, "Political Violence", has now become a way to dampen the facts of the situation. This was an act of desperation, cowardice, and premeditated treachery that the DS has enacted over and over through history. These Philistines and vipers lost, and they had no plan B.
This is good. My gut tells me you are spot on. I felt the same when I saw Biden in the situation room. They looked defeated.
Putting my info here because I don't know where else and some might be useful. Made a post with it all here but will copy paste too.
Rally Witness sees motorcycle rider dressed in black pull up to shooter building, and a previously closed door to the building wide open after rider arrival.
So it may be hard to watch and get through because it can be annoying, but a witness claims she saw a black motorcycle pull in where only cop cars were allowed outside of the building the shooter was apparently on. The rider was wearing black, skinny jeans, and a don't tread on me flag around the neck - witness makes comments that this rider could be trying to look like "one of us". Witness mentions a door to the building that was previously closed is now wide open. Witness mentions police storm the building through door.
Full interview here : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvTT27uq7DM
Shorter more annoying video but shows the motorcycle was still there the next day. : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRtf_ut0_3g
I have seen the water tower theory as well and it's worth noting that the view from the shorter video of the open door and motorcycle is on the same side where the water tower is, Meridian Rd. Just making a note of location. There is a road that leads right up to the water tower from Meridian Rd.
The 1:24 mark of this media video shows that there is indeed a motorcycle and the right side door open that the witness was claiming. : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tReC8aNS0A
Video showing police (struggling) going through the open door the witness saw a bunch of police run through after witness saw rider and heard shots.
https://x.com/kylenabecker/status/1813298095494447197
Also in the first half of the video, watch background. Hard to tell but is the guy just standing outside in khaki cargo shorts and black tshirt and maybe a fishing hat wearing a yellow bandana or flag around his face? Or is this a beard?
Can't tell if he was in front of door already or ifhe was the guy coming in from the left view along the building passing the windows. What is he doing? Changed pants? Someone totally different? Interesting.Thank you for this. We all agree it was an inside job, now we have to seek truth. Someone posted on X that the FBI knew every text, location, money spent, websites searched on the thousands of J6-rs practically the next day. But nothing on the patsy.
Something else I was digging around with last night.
The directions of the bullets don't add up in my mind. Looking between Google maps, aerial views showing the stage, buildings and everything in the background of the location and streets as a guide, live footage from people there on twitter, it just doesn't add up to me. I'm no expert or anything, but if Trump was looking at the big screen to his right and the bleachers behind him were almost parallel to his ear and the screen seems to be even maybe slightly back so he'd have to turn his head a little further towards the back bleachers, and the bullet grazed his ear...the bullet would have to be almost running parallel to his turned head and the bleachers behind him no?
So what is in that direction if we started drawing some lines to match the direction of grazing the ear and the bleachers and view of the screen? I see the water tower being a possibility but there are a lot of trees in the way and not sure if the height would be able to be seen from that angel and it would be a lot higher up, but at least it makes more sense than the roof or even what Redacted is saying with some Gymnasium the complete other way which would have hit I would think - on Google Maps you can see the red buildings behind trump from the Gymnasium and where the stage would be but the direction does not match his head turning and grazing his ear.
There is the parking lot of the AGR building between the water tower and where the shooter was on the roof. I shared a post about a witness mentioning a motorcycle pulling up and a door being open that was shut before. But I think this witness would notice if it was just done from the parking lot. I've seen theories it could have come from the windows of the building.
Going further out, there is a Dollar General with a view of where the stage would be. Further out there is a church with a stereotypical bell tower that a sniper would use in a spy movie. St. John's Reformed Church. Has a view to where the stage would be on Google Maps. Trump did that famous photo holding the Bible in front of a St. John's. So I dunno, coincidence?
Then lastly there is also the trees/forest near the water tower that maybe could hide someone.
I've even considered what if it came from the very opposite direction, to Trump's left. But with the direction of the ear bullet and then the poor civilians with other directions...there has to be 2 shooters in my opinion. Crooks being the scapegoat for whoever shot at Trump somewhere else. Crooks killed the people in the crowd in my opinion. Someone else was going for Trump.
OP, is this the Pelosi "next week" comment you're referring to?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_xOhxMqWlE
Fast-forward to the :40 second mark. The interview was from last week, but seems her "next week" comment is more in regard to Potatohead's rebound from the terrible debate performance and how he handles the NATO meeting, not necessarily anything specific to Trump or fore-knowledge of the assassination attempt.
P.S. Good sticky request since more B.S. spin is coming in fast
This is it! Joe Manchin said the same thing last Wednesday. Let’s see this week. Plus, I have a theory that Biden is fighting for his life too. Did they want to take Trump out and Put in Haley? Then take Biden out and put in whoever? Or take Trump out to inflict Marshall law and cancel election? I think they want Biden gone. Trump warned his enemies a couple weeks ago about the next 5 months and not to do it. I need to find that also.
I suspected that the “political violence and rhetoric” could be used as an excuse to take Biden out and solve that problem for them..,
New info/questions about the shooter
Questions: Did someone assist Crooks in building and deploying the IED, something that a typical 20-year-old would know nothing about? Did someone build the IED for him?
From PrayingMedic: https://x.com/prayingmedic/status/1813286761214451818
He fit a ladder tall enough to get on a roof in his Sonata?
J13....clever...shall absolutely go down in history, for many reasons.
https://x.com/MattWallace888/status/1812381308561117231
While the SS (FBI) guy is clearing photographers out of the way he’s crouching. As if he knew bullets were coming. He then hears shots and ducks for his own protection while other SS go straight to President Trump.
Here's posts I did about Sen. Manchin saying “IF YOU JUST WAIT UNTIL THIS WEEKEND...I believe we’ll be able to have a better, clearer view of what’s happening.”
First post -
https://greatawakening.win/p/17te9gE26f/are-you-personally-confident-tha/
2nd post -
https://greatawakening.win/p/17teJ2REAe/a-few-days-ago-i-posted-about-se/
Also…any explanations for audio forensics suggest three weapons fired in 15 seconds
Honest question as I'm wrestling with it;
Do we think this is part of The Plan (Shot Heard Round the World) or a legit attempt?
I searched qagg.news & found FOUR drops containing the phrase "Shot Heard Around the World"
There weren't any notable deltas I could see, but I didn't focus for too long yet. See below:
https://qagg.news/?q=shot+heard&q2=
https://files.catbox.moe/vus4a9.jpg
No way this was planned by White Hats or whatever you call “our side”.
A 55 grain bullet at 3200 fps whistling a half inch from Trump’s skull while Trump is constantly moving his head ? Not “impossible” but there are a long line of zeros after the chance of possibility. It would be beyond reason.
The risk makes no sense on literally any level.
They could be compromised, they could be tired, they could shake from anticipation or anxiety. No matter how disciplined someone is, there are hundreds of variables or even thousands of variables that could lead to that shot connecting.
Saw a post about some type of advanced quantum AI that was formerly called Q and is now called strawberry fields. Could Q be this? And project looking glass theory is they can’t see past 2024. No matter the scenarios. The ending is the ending and the beginning the beginning.
Corey Comperatore was said to be a firefighter. Now there is a video out saying he worked at JSP plastics for 30+ years which is apparently confirmed by Linked In.
He was on the roof for 26 minutes. On a hot roof crawling in short sleeves.
Pelosi starts at 3:08
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5JCUBp6zj8
Woman with the black cap behind Trump who seemed very interested in looking towards the unguarded building in the moments before the shooting.
She raised her sign a few times, smiled briefly after first shots were fired and got out her phone to start filming. Never seemed to be caught off guard or rattled. She needs to be found.
Rosie memos just posted that a secret service agent was possibly hit by a bullet. Blood and hole on his jacket. Also, SS has backed off and will not brief congress or take questions.
And just like that, no more calls for Joe to step down. https://www.theepochtimes.com/us/democratic-party-plans-to-nominate-president-biden-before-end-of-july-5687569
When MSM was playing live there was a shot of a guy in a backpack with something hanging (looked like glow sticks). He runs down the left side of the bleachers (facing stage) and starts ordering SS around. It seemed out of place. So did the caddy shack guy
https://x.com/amuse/status/1813290589695156296?s=46&t=vcYNcYbFP8WXuSx5DLwHxA
Media reporting shooter bought everything at Home Depot in the morning and walked a mile. Whatever!
Article says 12 ft ladder…earlier reports say 5ft ladder, and Ashe climbed up in the air conditioning unit and there is video of his “van” getting towed away? With explosives, or not with explosives…
How about the fact that virtually everything we have been told has been revised?
Soundslike Adam Lanza, the skinny little guy who carried in several heavy weapons and kicked in the door like Rambo. Totally believable.
Manchin
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/07/will-joe-biden-drop-this-weekend-sen-manchin/
Dead shooter in pictures is on the lower part of roof, hasn't even made it up to the peak where he could see over the peak towards the rally?.
Ok, the pictures in this post indicates a different configuration than what I saw elsewhere that came from maps. He didn't need to climb to the peak. https://greatawakening.win/p/17teNlMA4m/dcdraino-look-how-perfectly-posi/c/
this could be that thread. we are getting bombarded by bullshit from all sides. how many posts are there naming this crooks character when the corpse does not resemble recent photos of crooks?
7 + 1 + 3 + 2 + 4 = ?