Thank God Putin knows what's up or we'd be in our fall out shelters right now. Oh, wait. Does America even have a fall out shelter protocol in place? NO. Meaning these globalist deep state pukes could care less if we are attacked.
It doesn't seem like anyone in the MSM is concerned. I don't watch those freaks anymore, but I know I would have seen something on at least YouTube. IT shouldn't be long before some MSM fruitcake slips up and mentions this is serious.
Putin already stated that the ATACMS was a red line. Because of the systems complexity, codes, and personnel operational requirements, any use of this system on Russia would have to be done by the US, and that would indicate direct involvement of the US in this conflict. There is no way that Ukraine would be operating this system. Besides, it also says that the US had already been placing the system prior to the announcement the other day. How long would it take to ship the ATACMS and set it up? Sounds like they made the decision to send them some time ago - the public only recently heard about it. Sounds like the administration is trying to plant a land mine for Trump.
I stand corrected. ATACMS have been there, but Ukraine was not allowed to use them to attack the Russian interior - until now. The disputed territories of Donbass and Luhansk being annexed as part of the Russian Federation is not internationally recognized as they are technically still considered part of Ukraine. Therefore the use of ATACMS in these areas is considered an attack on the Russian occupation of Ukrainian territories.
Putin's red line however involved use of these systems to attack the interior of Russia proper and not their use in the Russian occupied territories. Putin made it very clear that they would consider their use to to attack the Russian interior as a direct attack by the US on Russia. As Putin spelled out, the reason is because operation of these systems requires direct American involvement.
Just because Russia declares these areas to be part of the Russian Federation does not make it so - they are disputed lands as they were part of Ukraine. Both sides of this conflict lay claim to those lands and each side has valid points for their claims. That is why they are at war. A peace agreement between Russia and Ukraine would hopefully settle the land dispute issue if agreed to by both sides in this conflict.
Traitors do exist, and always have. They’re almost certainly the vast minority.
You’re both overgeneralizing, so don’t worry about it, they’ll get taken care of, if they haven’t been taken care of already. That battlespace isn’t one we need to worry about.
I also don’t think what we are getting is actuals, but more likely narratives of what [they] were going to do.
So the people pushing the buttons are NOT americans?
NOT us military? You know, the military, that is supposedly the only way?
THERE ARE AMERICANS FIGHTING WITH THE NAZIS RIGHT NOW. And have been for the last 2.5 years. Some of them wore the uniform before, SOME ARE WEARING IT RIGHT NOW.
The us military, like every other fed institution in this country, is an utter disgrace. "I was following orders" is not an excuse.
But the fawning over 'veterans' and 'us military' needs to stop.
THEY are the ones doing the killing and helping the nazis. US military personnel fired those missiles. US command & military personnel assisted in the flight assignments & corrections. Or do you think Soros went there and pushed the button in person?
The russians are the adults in the room, so I am not concerned about the survival of this country. But the us mil is a disgrace.
This may be true in the current state of affairs. But one can conclude based on your long, windbag, diahrrea of the fingers, excrement exhibited here; and as a Veteran myself -> You <- are a disgrace. Wtf have you done? What are you contributing other than random shit talking on a forum cozy keyboard warrior?
Putin has previously said that giving Ukraine the green light on missile use would effectively mean that the U.S. and NATO are "in the war."
"Flight assignments for these missile systems can, in fact, only be entered by military personnel from NATO countries. Ukrainian servicemen cannot do this. And therefore, it is not a question of allowing the Ukrainian regime to strike Russia with these weapons or not. It is a question of making a decision whether NATO countries directly participate in the military conflict or not," Putin said in September
Not likely Russia will directly strike a NATO country site, but danger is that Russia will sell weapons including hypersonic missiles to other belligerent countries that can used them against U.S. forces, and allies.
If rouge powers had hypersonic missiles, they could sink any ship, and destroy our ability to project power around the world.
Wouldn’t it be great if they intercepted the control signal and sent them to Zelensky’s bunker, or his control base in Tel Aviv.
As I said on another post...
~ James Greer, Hunt for Red October
In this case, Antony Blinken and crew launched the missiles.
And the Q team pushed the red button to self destruct them.
Are we to believe these are such dangerous missiles but none of them can hit their target?
I like the way you think. Too bad you couldn't direct them to Zelensky's various houses. LOL He could watch them all go up in smoke!
Thank God Putin knows what's up or we'd be in our fall out shelters right now. Oh, wait. Does America even have a fall out shelter protocol in place? NO. Meaning these globalist deep state pukes could care less if we are attacked.
It doesn't seem like anyone in the MSM is concerned. I don't watch those freaks anymore, but I know I would have seen something on at least YouTube. IT shouldn't be long before some MSM fruitcake slips up and mentions this is serious.
Well it's a good thing they didn't hit anything this time.....
Popcorn time … enjoy the show
u/#catpopcorn
Everyone's reports, both CNN and RT.
Might not be true, but it's the best we have.
Putin already stated that the ATACMS was a red line. Because of the systems complexity, codes, and personnel operational requirements, any use of this system on Russia would have to be done by the US, and that would indicate direct involvement of the US in this conflict. There is no way that Ukraine would be operating this system. Besides, it also says that the US had already been placing the system prior to the announcement the other day. How long would it take to ship the ATACMS and set it up? Sounds like they made the decision to send them some time ago - the public only recently heard about it. Sounds like the administration is trying to plant a land mine for Trump.
I stand corrected. ATACMS have been there, but Ukraine was not allowed to use them to attack the Russian interior - until now. The disputed territories of Donbass and Luhansk being annexed as part of the Russian Federation is not internationally recognized as they are technically still considered part of Ukraine. Therefore the use of ATACMS in these areas is considered an attack on the Russian occupation of Ukrainian territories.
Putin's red line however involved use of these systems to attack the interior of Russia proper and not their use in the Russian occupied territories. Putin made it very clear that they would consider their use to to attack the Russian interior as a direct attack by the US on Russia. As Putin spelled out, the reason is because operation of these systems requires direct American involvement.
Just because Russia declares these areas to be part of the Russian Federation does not make it so - they are disputed lands as they were part of Ukraine. Both sides of this conflict lay claim to those lands and each side has valid points for their claims. That is why they are at war. A peace agreement between Russia and Ukraine would hopefully settle the land dispute issue if agreed to by both sides in this conflict.
and they never lie. Any chance they named the source?
Are you having fun, Rachel?
Looks like our little secret is out in the open.
That might very well be the actual reason the pedo 'gave permission'.
US mil has been doing this stuff from the beginning of the conflict. US mil supports the nazis and IS a co-belligerent. Always has been.
It's just out in the open now. Which could play into Trump's favor.
Fuck.
I agree for the most part. But any response from Putin then gets a response from Globalists for a death spiral of escalations.
well, they have had access to the ATACMS for awhile now in the war, so if this is true its been america firing the whole time.
Traitors do exist, and always have. They’re almost certainly the vast minority.
You’re both overgeneralizing, so don’t worry about it, they’ll get taken care of, if they haven’t been taken care of already. That battlespace isn’t one we need to worry about.
I also don’t think what we are getting is actuals, but more likely narratives of what [they] were going to do.
But we are so infiltrated by these scum. Scour the swamp!
Really?
So the people pushing the buttons are NOT americans?
NOT us military? You know, the military, that is supposedly the only way?
THERE ARE AMERICANS FIGHTING WITH THE NAZIS RIGHT NOW. And have been for the last 2.5 years. Some of them wore the uniform before, SOME ARE WEARING IT RIGHT NOW.
The us military, like every other fed institution in this country, is an utter disgrace. "I was following orders" is not an excuse.
We dont even know that this is true. They could be using starlink and have been given codes
No, and that's not going to happen.
But the fawning over 'veterans' and 'us military' needs to stop.
THEY are the ones doing the killing and helping the nazis. US military personnel fired those missiles. US command & military personnel assisted in the flight assignments & corrections. Or do you think Soros went there and pushed the button in person?
The russians are the adults in the room, so I am not concerned about the survival of this country. But the us mil is a disgrace.
Check out Ibogaine for PTSD for your brother. I wish him well and appreciate your family for what they sacrificed. God bless
This may be true in the current state of affairs. But one can conclude based on your long, windbag, diahrrea of the fingers, excrement exhibited here; and as a Veteran myself -> You <- are a disgrace. Wtf have you done? What are you contributing other than random shit talking on a forum cozy keyboard warrior?
Putin has previously said that giving Ukraine the green light on missile use would effectively mean that the U.S. and NATO are "in the war."
"Flight assignments for these missile systems can, in fact, only be entered by military personnel from NATO countries. Ukrainian servicemen cannot do this. And therefore, it is not a question of allowing the Ukrainian regime to strike Russia with these weapons or not. It is a question of making a decision whether NATO countries directly participate in the military conflict or not," Putin said in September
https://www.foxnews.com/world/ukraine-fires-first-barrage-us-made-long-range-missiles-russia-kremlin-says
We've been the baddies for a long time--we meaning our evil, corrupt, unelected government
Who REALLY did it?
I see who you mean now... thankfully I've never come across that shitbird...
I would tend to believe this,
So what’s the punishment for trying to start World War III, with the explicit goal to cover up your previous crimes?
They want war BEFORE becomes President.
I saw a report that they hit a Russian ammo depot. Can anyone confirm?
This makes sense. It is going to be hard for people to accept that "we" are the evil ones trying to start a war.
Well, look what we gave to Afghanistan
Who knew? 🍿
Not likely Russia will directly strike a NATO country site, but danger is that Russia will sell weapons including hypersonic missiles to other belligerent countries that can used them against U.S. forces, and allies.
If rouge powers had hypersonic missiles, they could sink any ship, and destroy our ability to project power around the world.
bro, you're whole argument fell apart right there