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In the year 2020 IBM put neural implants in U.S prisoners without their knowledge, reporting a great success in suppressing moods with 24/7 bio-surveillance. This was HIGHLY CONFIDENTIAL but the documentation proving it was released via legal discovery in court. (twitter.com) 🧐 Research Wanted 🤔
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– BetterNameUnfound 48 points 1 year ago +48 / -0

Which is why, as grateful as I am to Elon Musk for all he's done for us, I do not trust Neuralink in the slightest.

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– Wtf_socialismreally 17 points 1 year ago +17 / -0

Cool sci fi tech.

Not tech I would even touch with a billion foot pole.

That said, and it is a factor, someone is going to do it and I would rather someone that has some amount of morality and integrity be the one to do so.

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– SuckaFree 34 points 1 year ago +34 / -0

We have laws for that, which are already ethics and morality based. Experimenting like this on prison inmates violates every legal, moral, and ethical code known to mankind. Which is why it's banned under the Geneva Convention's POW section.

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– tstr 18 points 1 year ago +18 / -0

IBM and Pelican Bay should both be shutdown and anyone involved should be procesuted and put in prison. At the very least...

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– ancroidubh 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

I believe what you are looking for is the “Declaration of Helsinki”, covering informed consent in medical trials. Criminal prisoners are not covered by the Geneva Convention.

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– Wtf_socialismreally 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Which has nothing to do with voluntarily submitting yourself to it like Neuralink.

Besides, we already funded bio weapons use. Governments don't care.

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– Cheesecakecrush 9 points 1 year ago +9 / -0

Then, as soon as they're dead, the wicked, evil toad that wants world domination swoops in and takes over, and we're all fucked.

Its far better the technology never exists.

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– Throwaway2024ii 20 points 1 year ago +20 / -0

Look at insulin! Guy who discovered it sold the patent for $1 to a university bc he felt it was unethical to profit from a lifesaving drug.

Now look at insulin prices. Dudes trust was very misplaced, many years after his death

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– Rooks 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Can't put the genie back in the bottle.

Better to have laws clearly stating proper use and ethics and punishments.

Ever see the anime series Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex? It deals a lot with the ethics of medical, gov't, and social organizations as related to bio/cyber implants and bodily autonomy. It goes over the concept of technological restraint that is so often lacking in the technology industry and our government and culture.

Just because you have the technological impetus to do something does not grant you the moral right to do so. Just because it can be easily done by reprobates doesn't mean you say 'OK it's fine', because you can't easily regulate it.

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– Wtf_socialismreally 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Literally everything is a product of human experiments, at least performing it on voluntary people who know the risks is better than the old Soviet and Nazi way of performing it on people who they disappeared from their homes late at night.

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– Wtf_socialismreally 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

That's why I won't touch the idea with a billion foot pole, as I said.

I don't want that technology. There is too much of a risk.

But some people will accept that risk in search of their own answer, and that's their choice to make. I am not arrogant enough to assert that I'm right about everything.

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– TaQo 26 points 1 year ago +26 / -0

Imagine...if you will...

Being marooned on a prison planet... and you find yourself in a prison within the prison...

And subject to experimentation they can't do in the outside prison...

No need to fear hell... you're already here.

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– cerealbot 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Your next stop...the Twilight Zone

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– TaQo 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Some would think you were way off base...but you know...

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– cerealbot 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Life can be stranger than fiction.

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– SkiSkiUSMC 22 points 1 year ago +22 / -0

Makes me wonder if they're using this to force criminals to commit more crimes after they release them.

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– 45ichooseu 9 points 1 year ago +9 / -0

Remember the film gamer? They're so proud of their predictive programming.

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– cerealbot 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Like FF type of stuff. Sleepers.

F

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– HenryBowman1984 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

MK Ultra but with electronics

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– kish-kumen 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Demolition Man was a documentary.

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– cerealbot 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

The three seashells were never explained!

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– SuckaFree 17 points 1 year ago +17 / -0

Now that IS some Owellian shit right there. It's no wonder the uniparty is so scared. [their] crimes against humanity run long, far, and deep.

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– LoneWulf 9 points 1 year ago +9 / -0

You know full-well that this was intended to be used on all of us. They were getting it ready for the cabal takeover and their New World Order in 2030.

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– cerealbot 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

Mark of the Beast

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– slipwave 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

...covid was a test run

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– winn 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

Sauce for legal case https://casetext.com/case/devore-v-cal-dept-of-corr-rehab

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– 45ichooseu 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Thanks!

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– deleted 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0
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– VictorWillis 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

This is years old. The lawsuit he is talking about seems like a crank case. If this was a genuine case and there was real evidence, this would be giant news. The backstory is a woman filed multiple lawsuits against dozens of defendants. Quite frankly, she seems like she had a mental break. She claimed one of the devices implanted in her body was a particle accelerator.

Here is one of the outcomes

https://casetext.com/case/devore-v-united-states-department-of-defense For the following reasons, the Court finds that the Third Amended Complaint fails to state a cognizable claim for relief under federal law and must be dismissed.

What document the guy is discussing is literally just a typed piece of paper attached to her original lawsuit. No evidence that it actually is a real document.

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– 208-RZ 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Sad to see it took so long to see this reasonable comment on here.

This is ridiculous for a bunch of reasons, all listed in the comments of the original post.

smh

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– Lawjic 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

If [this was true] this would be giant news.

Are you new to this site? Ah, yes, you are. Buckle up, buttercup. Your worldview might get a bit shaken. We are the news.

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– VictorWillis 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

We are the news.

This sounds like you are trying to convince yourself of something. I'm trying not to kid myself anymore. I've done far too much of that

The simpler explanation is the guy from Twitter is lying about what happened in this case. That's what I meant when I said this would have been giant news. We wouldn't have found out about this 3-4 years later

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– Burmeister 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

Wow, why do i keep getting shocked by the cult and its practices. I should be used to psychopaths by now!

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– penisse [S] 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

They could do the best as well as the worst, but they only are the best at doing the worst.

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– Burmeister 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

True!

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– Nehemiah 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

Breaking:

MS-13 have reportedly started a morning Yoga class in prison to improve the moods of other inmates, followed by 2 hours of crocheting sessions before lunch. On Tuesdays and Thursdays they are allotted 1 hour in the evening to share their journal entries and talk about their feelings.

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– penisse [S] 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

Doesn’t it remind you of Sly Stallone waking up in « Demolition Man », learning to crochet during his hibernation?

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– Nehemiah 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

“Murder death kill”

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– penisse [S] 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

🥳

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– Nehemiah 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

😂😂😂I miss those days

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– RINOvirus 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

Tuskegee 2.0

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– GGRockz 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Kek.

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– deleted 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0
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– Hope4thefuture 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

If I were one of the prisoners, I would sue the pants off IBM AND the PRISON system.

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– GGRockz 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Evil all around us.

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– deleted 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0
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– GimmeMemes 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

This was exactly the kind of medical experimentation that ended up with several high ranking nazis, mostly doctors, hanging from the end of a rope. That's exactly what should happen in this situation.

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– Donny_Fiasco 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

I believe all of this stuff goes on... But the sources just aren't there to legally do anything about it.

The system is set up, not to enforce the law, but to cover up the crime.

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– deleted 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0
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– swimkin 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Very Norwellian for sure. Of course I wonder what they told these prisoners before taking them into surgery. Surely they had some questions as to why they were put under to begin with.

This may be something you may or may not be aware of. But I did work in a psychiatric setting in the past. Would this be something to be used with institutionalized highly retarded yet harmful to self due to sensory issues? Some of them ate their own flesh and had to have head cages placed on them. We used to have them on locked state wards. They could never be released into normal society due to this behavior. Mostly these individuals were not harmful to anyone but themselves but we did have some that would attack others. Creepy as that sounds it was real

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– Numina24 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

We need much more info on this. It is horrific and should be punished by making all those who took part infested with the same technology, forever.

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– deleted 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0
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– MagnaCartaAgain 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Reminds me of The Tripods series. I was a kid and remember it vaguely, got bought the book for Christmas, the people had a foil doily type cap laced on their head to control them.

*From an Amazon review.

The Tripods! The story is written in a time after people have been ruled by Tripods for some time, and there is no war, dissent and peace reigns. This sounds idyllic, however there is also no freedom, and the mind of people are only free until they are 16, after which they are 'capped' and kept under control, leading an almost robotic yet happy life - without freedom or choice - that they never question. The story begins when some young people who are soon to be 'capped' and have their own thoughts about not wanting to be 'capped'.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Tripods-Collection-White-Mountains-City/dp/1481415050/ref=asc_df_1481415050?tag=bingshoppinga-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=80882880812450&hvnetw=o&hvqmt=e&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=&hvtargid=pla-4584482456237254&psc=1

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– madmax2 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

"You'll own nothing and be happy."

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– Trump4evergirl 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Without saying too much, I have a family member who is married to someone in Pelican Bay. The guards are dirty as f***. There is so much corruption in the prison system and the FBI, it’s scary. There was a reporter that worked for the Mercury Times or something like that. I forget the exact name of the paper. They started investigating this and woke up dead. The judges are corrupt, as well. The whole situation is set up to cover their crimes on the backs of already incarcerated citizens.

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– 15th_dimension 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

'The Terminal List' amazon series was released in 2022, and based on a book released in 2018.

Just sayin'.

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– God_wins 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Many anti-Christs plus there is the Anti-Christ spirit (attitude) but thee AC? We definitely could be in the age of that.

Still only God knows that time and He chooses that time and no one knows His algorithm.

So we are left with evil man and Satan that love to cast spells and magic to make even the Christian believe it is the end times.

In the recent past it was done with credit cards. VISA equals 666. Vi is 6, s is 6 and A is 6 in different languages. Plus other credit cards doing this.

In the now it is this AI and implants — which do believe is going to cause God to take note and decision. My theory is God waits on Man to decide when they are to be done. God already said he will not flood the Earth and this is why we see the Rainbow and this is why evil took the rainbow and made it a Nazi and commie flag now.

If man decides we are in the end times the one that is to be theee antichrist would be becoming of age right now. God would see this and either agree or disagree on His decision. My opinion of course. Only God knows.

The front runners if you want to call them that would be ones we may not recognize yet or are under the surface.

What if this person is somewhat treated like Jesus was? Taken to a mount so to speak and promised and depending on the answer ushers in the next step?

Sounds like the matrix or any sci-movie lol

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– MuckeyDuck 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Tom Watson rolling over in his grave.

IBM used to be such a great American company.

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– Numina24 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

When was that??? They helped the Nazis.........

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– WTP_1776 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

What if a vast majority of ‘nazis’ were German patriots fighting the communist Bolshevik invasion post ww1? What if what you’ve been taught about nazis is bullshit? Even Patton said we fought the wrong enemy. I think he might have known a bit more than you or I. I’m not sure IBM ‘helping the nazis’ is what you think it is.

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– cerealbot 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

And Patton was most likely taken out to silence him.

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– 45ichooseu 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Wow.

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– Stephanie1 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

I'm ok with testing done on the mafia. A little blood is no comparison to the blood they've shed

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– Sadness 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Manchurian?

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– 15th_dimension 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Nah, they've got good old fashioned MK Ultra for that.

If you're unclear on what exactly that is, we can go down a very dark rabbit hole. Suffice to say, MK is the real Manchurian Kandidate

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– Sadness 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Indeed, many aspects of the Manchurian plot were psychological, the 'brainwashing' scenes were graphically represented, with maximum horror impact on the screen. But the subtleties extended to posing a puppetmaster who could complete the process with trigger words, that turned the subjects into assassins or 'undefeatable soldiers'.

So I get what you are saying.

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– 15th_dimension 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

MK uses traumatic events to reprogram people. The reality is more horrific than the film. and the effects are just as subtle. Check out Kim Noble's case, and it's analysis on vigilantcitizen

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– deleted 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

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