Everything about this stinks to high heaven. Did you see the video? Head fully engulfed in flames and just standing there for nearly a minute. Not a reaction Id expect. Ive seen other immolations and the victim runs around like a chicken with its head cut off. This person was unmoving until the very end or the video when you see a foot move. And those intense flames and staying upright for a minute at least? And then the video just ends abruptly while shes still standing there burning? Then the people just standing there and watching? The guy trying to fan flames that are already that intense from 6 feet away with a blanket or something similar? Whats the point of that? And cops just strolling by showing no sense of urgency? And then a short time later some HS kids identify the perp? How would HS kids know this guy?
And now some pic of a cute 29 year old white girl. What 29 year old white girl is on a subway at 730 in the morning surrounded by liquor bottles obviously so drunk that she doesnt know her clothes are on fire and does nothing about it until she if fully engulfed but no accelerant was used? The guy lit her clothes with a lighter? Some stories say threw a lit match on her?
Yea this entire thing stinks to high heaven. I think this is bullshit. I want to hear from an eyewitness. I want some video that can be proven not to be AI generated.
And a lot of you here need to open your eyes and start questioning everything. Too many self-styled anons fall for every news item in a war we know is psychological, in a world with the tech tools we now have, coming from a media that is complicit in evil.
So what's weird is I just lit a fire. Takes some work. Not just a match. So there are liquor bottles. But vodka and gin and whiskey do not light on fire. You need 100 proof alcohol. I didn't feel like watching the video but is it supposed to be that she drank so much she just catches fire? What's the explanation.
I got news for you -- in this war for hearts and minds, propaganda from our side is not off the table. Some of it would be to facilitate the Great Awakening but much, much more is in the realm of moves and countermoves, misdirection, forcing your enemy into mistakes and expending ammunition.
And Im ok with it. I use the same discernment on every story pro maga or death cult related. As anons we need to stay grounded. We cant be a cat chasing a laser pointer. Take all news with a grain of salt and instead of taking it all at face value, use logic to find a reason any of it could be used for us or against us. Its only when we say hell no! that we can overcome the lies.
When the wars been won and evil is removed from our daily lives, then we can start to focus on, expect, and indeed demand from all parties, unvarnished Truth.
Absolutely. Propaganda is a weapon of modern war. If they use it against us, I would hope that we retaliate and use it against them. Made up story vs made up story is much better than bombs vs bombs.
We will never fix our country if people don't wake up.
Man, white hats should be elevating the conciousness of the masses. Not giving people stress and horrific nightmares. With white hats like these who needs the Obamas?
Do we hold firing back weapons when they're fired at us?
Modern war is a war for the minds of the people. The enemy doesn't want us dead. We are of no use to them dead. they want to control us to work for them, without us realizing it.
To be fair, he only used a small lighter to kill her. 🙄
Therefore, the judge should sentence him to be slowly burned 🔥 over every inch of his body no matter how many years it takes for him to succumb to the burns.
and you can thank Biden and Harris for every one of the victims....their whole administration is a dumpster fire......cant get rid of them fast enough...
And they're assuredly very happy about it, too. These evil swamp creatures have no conscience whatsoever and want innocent humans to suffer and die, the more horrific the better in their warped, twisted little minds.
The swamp creatures must be exterminated (after appropriate trials-convictions, of course); there is no "learning", "realizing", "remorse", etc. They are not able to be rehabilitated. They can don nice suits and dresses, put on makeup and baubles, coo into the cameras about how much they care, how "virtuous" and "concerned" they are all they want, but when the cameras are off - they and their puppet masters are basking in a warped sense of "power". They're both sociopathic and psychopathic.
Just like San Fran Nan and her creepy nephew Newscum look out at the sea of misery and suffering they've created with rampant homelessness and drug addiction, cooing words of "concern" to the cameras, but relishing every moment of pain their victims are suffering. Just like Mayor Johnson of Chicago who speaks indignantly at the cameras about the families scarred by gun violence, yet has perpetuated the problem his gross predecessor Lori Lightfoot helped to accelerate, they relish the pain they're causing. Kathy Hochul announcing that NYC subways are safe is just mocking this young woman, the victim of this crime. Too many evil demons to iterate. And they're happy when horrific crimes like this get committed. (Rant over).
May you rest in peace, young Amelia Carter (or whoever the real victim is) - along with the millions of cabal/DS victims over the decades-centuries.
Right about the time Kathy Hochell (spelling, don't care about her to spell it correctly) put out some video saying they cleaned up the subway crimes, this burning of a person happens.
Quite the coincidence. IF I were a WH I'd have a scene where this burning of a person thing is staged to help wake up more people. Q told us over and over we were watching a scripted movie.
I thought I saw the victim was a homeless woman? It looked like there could have been a walker in front of the person. I find this sus, clothes shouldn't catch fire that quick let alone spread, and if it is indeed this younger looking woman, I can't see she would just stand there and burn.
I find it even more sus that no one stepped up to do anything, are New Yorkers this bad?
I once fell asleep on the #4 subway train that runs north from City Hall to Grand Central, and then farther north. I normally would get off to catch a MetroNorth train at Grand Central, but that day, I had to get off at 59th st and take the subway back to GC. Fortunately, this is one of the most crowded trains, so not much is likely to happen to a sleeping passenger, but I could see how dangerous it would be to sleep on a train heading far out in Brooklyn!
They arrested him and are still trying to identify the victim.
The victim identity in the tweet was made by Grok (Nick Sorter asked Ann Vandersteel for her source)
The DA is busy looking into how to blame trump for it. They’re probably meeting with The AP right now to see how they can spin it and get their talking scripts out to their MSM monkeys
The DA has a bigger problem in that President Trump gets sworn in in 27 days. If they do nothing about it, both the illegal invader AND every lawyer in the DA’s office will have a price to pay.
Does anyone have a list of the illegal attacks murders from the past 4 years . I know there were quiet a few , would be nice to have a list to put out there . Each murder tends to fade away as another happens
I dunno, very weird reporting. Seems kind of sketch to me. I truly hope this didn't actually happen, but if it did, just burn that asshole publicly and let the crowd pour gasoline on him.
not sure if the link changed, but I just clicked it and it is an apology that the woman's name is unknown. As I said before delete this post, it is false makes us look like gulible faggots.
She was apparently asleep and engulfed in flames within seconds.
Setting a woman on fire, or even faking such an incident, isn't something white hats would do. It terrorizes subway riders. It could create copycats. Everyone knows illegals have committed horrific crimes. One more isn't going to change most people's minds on immigration.
Might be to wake up the last remaining sleeping people in New York. Democrats that still defend the invader class. Or cause them to be ridiculed by most as Hochul is being ridiculed. So they see the light.
I was watching Rudy’s podcast, a commenter retard posted “ It was a horrible Accident; he was just trying to wake her up “ …. My faith in humanity has taken another serious blow.
And of course the deep state that is pushing illegals into the country by the millions would want to draw attention to the violence they are committing. Not likely. They would find anything but this to send their comms.
Not saying that it wasn’t a patio but as far as people not helping ??? after what happened to the last guy who intervened at the subway I get nobody wants to help
I don’t know I saw someone on fire once .she just stood their screaming ! long story but had to do with propane . I raced over and knocked her down and started attacking her rolling her , smothered a lot with a table cloth I grabbed off bbq table . Other people joined in one brought a cooler of ice dumping on ground as we rolled her . She was burned bad and spent awhile in hospital, but she survived . I do get outside in a subway , what the hell do you do, maybe rip a coat off and try to smother the flames . So sick and sad !
Part of the problem is that the attack happened on a Sunday morning. The other part was that she was engulfed in flames by the time somebody passed by.
Her entire body is on fire, she's most likely blind at this point and her brain and all her faculties aren't in proper working order. There may even be certain linings inside her esophagus and nasal pharyngeal passages that are burning as well. I've seen others burned alive that acted the same. Because she didn't catch it before it was bad she isn't thinking "oh stop drop and roll" you know who should have helped, those lazy morons standing and watching or that do nothing cop. May God receive her into heaven forever.
Ya, I agree, I saw the video also. I think anyone would tuck and roll if they were on fire. Start removing layers of clothing. Most everyone would be screaming in pain. She just stood there silently, like a candle. Mabey she was on heroin or fentanyl, couldn't feel the pain, intoxicated, didn't know how or unable to react.
May you RIP Beautiful Girl💔
This picture was generated using AI. The police dept has confirmed that it was NOT a 29 year old named Amelia.
Everything about this stinks to high heaven. Did you see the video? Head fully engulfed in flames and just standing there for nearly a minute. Not a reaction Id expect. Ive seen other immolations and the victim runs around like a chicken with its head cut off. This person was unmoving until the very end or the video when you see a foot move. And those intense flames and staying upright for a minute at least? And then the video just ends abruptly while shes still standing there burning? Then the people just standing there and watching? The guy trying to fan flames that are already that intense from 6 feet away with a blanket or something similar? Whats the point of that? And cops just strolling by showing no sense of urgency? And then a short time later some HS kids identify the perp? How would HS kids know this guy?
And now some pic of a cute 29 year old white girl. What 29 year old white girl is on a subway at 730 in the morning surrounded by liquor bottles obviously so drunk that she doesnt know her clothes are on fire and does nothing about it until she if fully engulfed but no accelerant was used? The guy lit her clothes with a lighter? Some stories say threw a lit match on her?
Yea this entire thing stinks to high heaven. I think this is bullshit. I want to hear from an eyewitness. I want some video that can be proven not to be AI generated.
And a lot of you here need to open your eyes and start questioning everything. Too many self-styled anons fall for every news item in a war we know is psychological, in a world with the tech tools we now have, coming from a media that is complicit in evil.
So what's weird is I just lit a fire. Takes some work. Not just a match. So there are liquor bottles. But vodka and gin and whiskey do not light on fire. You need 100 proof alcohol. I didn't feel like watching the video but is it supposed to be that she drank so much she just catches fire? What's the explanation.
Maybe a lot of chemical hair products? I dunno.
Yeah, just weird something would light so quickly.
If you heat 80 proof liquer to about 110 degrees the ethanol will separate from the water enough to then become flammable. Just an interesting tidbit.
Don't add vodka to your coffee percolator.
Agreed, fren. Add to that list:
-Governor Hochul was on twitter touting how safe she made the subways the morning before this happened
-The migrant match thrower was deported under Trump and let back in under Biden
wWas this a white hat psyop to highlight the dangers of illegals and how shitty the environment on subways are? Just spitballing
I have been thinking the same about it maybe being white hat. I mean they could do this legally....because of what Obama did with Smith Mundt Act.
But lib media can't call it out as fake. That would open a dangerous can of worms for them
But could they really be called white hats if they totally made up a fake story?
I got news for you -- in this war for hearts and minds, propaganda from our side is not off the table. Some of it would be to facilitate the Great Awakening but much, much more is in the realm of moves and countermoves, misdirection, forcing your enemy into mistakes and expending ammunition.
And Im ok with it. I use the same discernment on every story pro maga or death cult related. As anons we need to stay grounded. We cant be a cat chasing a laser pointer. Take all news with a grain of salt and instead of taking it all at face value, use logic to find a reason any of it could be used for us or against us. Its only when we say hell no! that we can overcome the lies.
When the wars been won and evil is removed from our daily lives, then we can start to focus on, expect, and indeed demand from all parties, unvarnished Truth.
Absolutely. Propaganda is a weapon of modern war. If they use it against us, I would hope that we retaliate and use it against them. Made up story vs made up story is much better than bombs vs bombs.
We will never fix our country if people don't wake up.
Man, white hats should be elevating the conciousness of the masses. Not giving people stress and horrific nightmares. With white hats like these who needs the Obamas?
I agree with you. I'm not saying it's the white hats, just posting a potential side to this psyop war available to both sides with the Smith mundt act
War is ugly. I want to win it not just move the goalposts. Unsavory decisions need to be made during warfare. Its unfortunate but reality.
Do we hold firing back weapons when they're fired at us?
Modern war is a war for the minds of the people. The enemy doesn't want us dead. We are of no use to them dead. they want to control us to work for them, without us realizing it.
Can personally confirm. I ran it through sightengine and got 99% likely AI-generated.
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2024/12/say_her_name_amelia_carter_burned_to_death_by_an_illegal_alien_on_new_york_s_subway.html
FIND THE POS and set him on fire. I am so sick of the crimes by these illegals that we should HOLD ALL OF OUR POLITICANS FEET To the fire
To be fair, he only used a small lighter to kill her. 🙄
Therefore, the judge should sentence him to be slowly burned 🔥 over every inch of his body no matter how many years it takes for him to succumb to the burns.
The killer may have also used the liquor as evidenced by the bottles that were found. That could have fueled the fire.
Your average bottle of 80 proof alcohol does not catch fire. Unless he was carrying around some everclear. Weird.
This is the first I've heard of this. A small lighter to burn someone alive? Now I'm intrigued.
i hope Tom Homan puts a bounty on the illegals...they can support them they can pay people to help deport them...simple
Only if we turn in the illegals in pieces. The more pieces, the bigger the bounty. Make a game out of it, you know.
i like your idea fern...get paid by the pound.....excellent
Or crispy
Gov Hochul owns this one, make her famous for it………..
She out there recently saying the subways are safe…. Man I hate her… she should be forced to ride them everywhere she goes and no security
and you can thank Biden and Harris for every one of the victims....their whole administration is a dumpster fire......cant get rid of them fast enough...
I really hate when things like this happen to a beautiful young woman that potentially had a wonderful life ahead of her.
Gross negligence by the govt. Hit them with the lawsuits.
Lawsuits against government officials get paid for by taxpayers. It’s a lose-lose scenario.
I’d be willing to pay taxes for prison sentences at Gitmo for those government officials who are responsible, on the other hand.
Careful of fake posts. People on X are running AI tests. This seems to be AI generated. That monster needs to be burned alive for his crimes.
To Biden and Harris puppet masters your responsible for this young lady’s murder
And they're assuredly very happy about it, too. These evil swamp creatures have no conscience whatsoever and want innocent humans to suffer and die, the more horrific the better in their warped, twisted little minds.
The swamp creatures must be exterminated (after appropriate trials-convictions, of course); there is no "learning", "realizing", "remorse", etc. They are not able to be rehabilitated. They can don nice suits and dresses, put on makeup and baubles, coo into the cameras about how much they care, how "virtuous" and "concerned" they are all they want, but when the cameras are off - they and their puppet masters are basking in a warped sense of "power". They're both sociopathic and psychopathic.
Just like San Fran Nan and her creepy nephew Newscum look out at the sea of misery and suffering they've created with rampant homelessness and drug addiction, cooing words of "concern" to the cameras, but relishing every moment of pain their victims are suffering. Just like Mayor Johnson of Chicago who speaks indignantly at the cameras about the families scarred by gun violence, yet has perpetuated the problem his gross predecessor Lori Lightfoot helped to accelerate, they relish the pain they're causing. Kathy Hochul announcing that NYC subways are safe is just mocking this young woman, the victim of this crime. Too many evil demons to iterate. And they're happy when horrific crimes like this get committed. (Rant over).
May you rest in peace, young Amelia Carter (or whoever the real victim is) - along with the millions of cabal/DS victims over the decades-centuries.
They really do feed off the loosh they cause. Sick bastards
Deport the fucker to hell, one way trip, do not pass go, no appeals, no final meal just execute him.
It’s just unreal to me that no one tried to intercede in this horrific event.
I pray for this beautiful soul and her family . I will never step foot in New York.
Question: Is Grok considered to be a reliable source? Nick Sorter asked Ann Vandersteel for a source and she provided Grok's answer.
https://x.com/annvandersteel/status/1871226881887911984
No AI can be considered reliable.
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2024/12/say_her_name_amelia_carter_burned_to_death_by_an_illegal_alien_on_new_york_s_subway.html
Right about the time Kathy Hochell (spelling, don't care about her to spell it correctly) put out some video saying they cleaned up the subway crimes, this burning of a person happens.
Quite the coincidence. IF I were a WH I'd have a scene where this burning of a person thing is staged to help wake up more people. Q told us over and over we were watching a scripted movie.
I'm surprised Biden hasn't issued a pardon and a green card to the attacker already.
I thought I saw the victim was a homeless woman? It looked like there could have been a walker in front of the person. I find this sus, clothes shouldn't catch fire that quick let alone spread, and if it is indeed this younger looking woman, I can't see she would just stand there and burn.
I find it even more sus that no one stepped up to do anything, are New Yorkers this bad?
I once fell asleep on the #4 subway train that runs north from City Hall to Grand Central, and then farther north. I normally would get off to catch a MetroNorth train at Grand Central, but that day, I had to get off at 59th st and take the subway back to GC. Fortunately, this is one of the most crowded trains, so not much is likely to happen to a sleeping passenger, but I could see how dangerous it would be to sleep on a train heading far out in Brooklyn!
What are the NYPD and the county prosecutor doing about this?
They arrested him and are still trying to identify the victim.
The victim identity in the tweet was made by Grok (Nick Sorter asked Ann Vandersteel for her source)
I saw where they had already arrested him yesterday. I haven't seen any other news about it, but then the MSM is likely trying hard to kill the story.
wasn't there a picture of a cop walking right past her as she was going up in flames, blissfully ignorant of what was going on around him?
The DA is busy looking into how to blame trump for it. They’re probably meeting with The AP right now to see how they can spin it and get their talking scripts out to their MSM monkeys
The DA has a bigger problem in that President Trump gets sworn in in 27 days. If they do nothing about it, both the illegal invader AND every lawyer in the DA’s office will have a price to pay.
Does anyone have a list of the illegal attacks murders from the past 4 years . I know there were quiet a few , would be nice to have a list to put out there . Each murder tends to fade away as another happens
I dunno, very weird reporting. Seems kind of sketch to me. I truly hope this didn't actually happen, but if it did, just burn that asshole publicly and let the crowd pour gasoline on him.
She relaxed. Never relax. Just get the hell away from them.
This guy was a guatamalan however. But I suppose you can apply the "never relax.." phrase around illegals too
It looks like the original post was deleted somehow.
where is the link. I fucking hate when pictures with no links are posted.
fyi others below are saying this is AI photo and not real. Produce a link or delete the post.
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2024/12/say_her_name_amelia_carter_burned_to_death_by_an_illegal_alien_on_new_york_s_subway.html
read this and delete the post.
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2024/12/correction_no_we_still_don_t_know_who_the_woman_was.html
What post, its gone..
I saw that after posting this, the full apolgy.
not sure if the link changed, but I just clicked it and it is an apology that the woman's name is unknown. As I said before delete this post, it is false makes us look like gulible faggots.
say goodbye post...
thank you.
AI is making it hard and getting harder ...
yep, I didn't catch it, just saw it in other people's comments so wanted to make sure you were aware.
I posted yesterday it is probably an ILLEGAL ALIEN.
I haven’t looked at this case much but why wasn’t she dropping and rolling? No one was running to get fire extinguisher etc.
Seems almost like a white hat psyop to ramp up anger about illegals so there is no push back on the mass deportations coming.
She was apparently asleep and engulfed in flames within seconds.
Setting a woman on fire, or even faking such an incident, isn't something white hats would do. It terrorizes subway riders. It could create copycats. Everyone knows illegals have committed horrific crimes. One more isn't going to change most people's minds on immigration.
Might be to wake up the last remaining sleeping people in New York. Democrats that still defend the invader class. Or cause them to be ridiculed by most as Hochul is being ridiculed. So they see the light.
I can't wait till the white hats start beheading kids to frighten the masses.
I was watching Rudy’s podcast, a commenter retard posted “ It was a horrible Accident; he was just trying to wake her up “ …. My faith in humanity has taken another serious blow.
Light him up.
Numerology is for witches.
...and the DS uses it all of the time to send comms. Learn the comms.
And of course the deep state that is pushing illegals into the country by the millions would want to draw attention to the violence they are committing. Not likely. They would find anything but this to send their comms.
Or…. She was actually set on fire by an illegal.
Not everything is some crazy white hat op. Sad when people have really lost common sense and a hold of reality.
I saw video and was wondering why she was not moving and dropping to floor to roll. Bystanders weren’t doing anything. Seems very “psyoppy”
Not saying that it wasn’t a patio but as far as people not helping ??? after what happened to the last guy who intervened at the subway I get nobody wants to help
How do you help a person that is in the process of being burned? The human instinct is to stay away from any fire.
I don’t know I saw someone on fire once .she just stood their screaming ! long story but had to do with propane . I raced over and knocked her down and started attacking her rolling her , smothered a lot with a table cloth I grabbed off bbq table . Other people joined in one brought a cooler of ice dumping on ground as we rolled her . She was burned bad and spent awhile in hospital, but she survived . I do get outside in a subway , what the hell do you do, maybe rip a coat off and try to smother the flames . So sick and sad !
Part of the problem is that the attack happened on a Sunday morning. The other part was that she was engulfed in flames by the time somebody passed by.
There were alcohol bottles around her I guess, and supposedly she was homeless and passed out
Media lies. She was not drunk or homeless.
https://x.com/annvandersteel/status/1871226881887911984
Grok is her source. I checked and grok does state the name, but it also states the source (some random x post)
But really, why wouldn't the person even move when set on fire.
You can see a walker in the photos:
https://x.com/KarmaSkills/status/1871239665384341857
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2024/12/say_her_name_amelia_carter_burned_to_death_by_an_illegal_alien_on_new_york_s_subway.html
? Top says
Looked in to it, her name was a hoax started on X, why do people do that ?
“This is an AI generated image and is from an account promoting a crypto scam using this made up identity.”
Hmmm….
Her entire body is on fire, she's most likely blind at this point and her brain and all her faculties aren't in proper working order. There may even be certain linings inside her esophagus and nasal pharyngeal passages that are burning as well. I've seen others burned alive that acted the same. Because she didn't catch it before it was bad she isn't thinking "oh stop drop and roll" you know who should have helped, those lazy morons standing and watching or that do nothing cop. May God receive her into heaven forever.
She was asleep. But even if she woke up, I doubt she would be able to survive for long.
Ya, I agree, I saw the video also. I think anyone would tuck and roll if they were on fire. Start removing layers of clothing. Most everyone would be screaming in pain. She just stood there silently, like a candle. Mabey she was on heroin or fentanyl, couldn't feel the pain, intoxicated, didn't know how or unable to react.
What a stupid comment.