....... Letting them dig their own grave. A month ago Netanyahu and Ben-Gvir were saying that expelling Hezbollah was the only path to peace in Lebanon. Now they have declared everyone in Lebanon, civilian or not, a legitimate target.
The walls of the grave they have dug are only being held up by a steady supply of American weapons.
Same with Trump requesting Europe step in with the Strait of Hormuz. Just because those of us were awake know to the problem players are doesn't mean the rest of the world does. Make them declare their position publicly, for the world and the annals of history to record. The make your move.
Soon the day will come when Israel has no more Allies and Nations start purging the Jewish lobby from their Institutions. Time for the men & women of the World to start taking back their Futures & Destinies.
Kek. Pry. Pretty sure the third temple is the body. Rather doubt a third temple of stone would be allowed, but who knows?
There may in fact be one when everyone is required by God himself to go to Jerusalem once a year, though I have no idea exactly why or what purpose it would serve.
That's a strange way of it. "There may in fact be one when everyone is required by God himself to go to Jerusalem once a year, though I have no idea exactly why or what purpose it would serve."
I’ve seen the generic claim that they are seeking to rebuild the third temple and some seek to promote evil to hasten the efforts and return of Messiah plenty, and those are known as fact, and debated even among Jews.
I’ve seen the specific Talmudic / Old Testament “prophecy” not once, and your pilpul comments aside, have no interest in studying the Talmud to find them. It’s common to not bring up specifics on prophecy, Christians tend to do it a lot too, and after looking, I only found a lot of generic references to “a prophecy”.
Also I am an amateur, as I note to everyone who has emphasized that I am an “expert”.
Some people tend to militarise Christian faith against Christians.
Prithee, what precisely would I be militarizing against the faith by calling for seeking righteous judgment, and encouraging research to that end, and discouraging the incessant venting of anger and hatred? You’ll note that I do not hammer threads this direction when actual research is being provided, though I may disagree with conclusions and add context, which is anyones’ right.
“Hate your enemy”, just like Jesus commanded? Is it Prince of War or Prince of Peace? I’m seeking peace in a war. It’s a hard path.
talking about Christians in the third party
Yes, and that’s intentional. I openly denounce denominationalism, by which I also consider Catholicism as a denomination, it is intended to emphasize the unity of the faith.
Maybe it’s because I’ve already gone through the anger phase 10 years ago, or maybe it’s cause you’re (supposedly) Irish, or maybe you yourself are trying to pull Christians away from their call to temperance and provision of mercy, grace, love, and charity, which would be the exact same “militarizing against the faith” that you’re accusing me of because I’m asking for research instead of spewing hatred.
With every reply, your position gets weaker. You are not a position of authority.
Christianity is nothing about constantly turning the other cheek against constant wrongs.
Who did our Lord drive from the temple?
Maybe it’s because I’ve already gone through the anger phase 10 years ago, or maybe it’s cause you’re (supposedly) Irish, or maybe you yourself are trying to pull Christians away from their call to temperance and provision of mercy, grace, love, and charity, which would be the exact same “militarizing against the faith” that you’re accusing me of because I’m asking for research instead of spewing hatred.
Again with the call to authority and the condescending tone.
Anger phase? Always bringing claims of emotions into a discussion to belittle the other side.
Research? You only need look around. Who is behind the militarised mass migration? Who has subverted every Western government? We don’t need any more research.
Again, It’s ok when we do it.
Name one SINGLE occasion when any European Country representative (not some lone nut case Zionist controlled opposition clown) in recent years called for the genocide of another nation.
Just go away. You are only stirring up, poking anyone who notices, telling them to stop being emotional and ignore the decay around them and more importantly, who is behind it.
Okay long story short. Rabbinic/Talmudic hardcore Zionist Jews believe that for their messiah to come and for the 3rd temple to be constructed the world must turn on Israel.
They hate Christianity because one they think Jesus was a false prophet and two they view Christianity as the continuation of the Roman Empire who under Hadrian destroyed the second temple and slaughtered them after they revolted.
What’s hilarious here is not that this dude is right, cause he isn’t, but that some posters here would find his speech to be an affront when they’re constantly speaking the exact same way.
The question we should be after is - how do we solve some of these very obvious problems WITHOUT being this guy?
John 10:10.
Thankfully, Trump seems to be dealing with this particular situation, but that doesn’t mean we won’t be having to fight similar battles at the local level at some point.
Ya, rly. There is so much hate directed at all Jews right now, it’s wild. If it’s not all of them, certain regular parties saying it sure suck at how they word things, and sure never bother to correct anything to a more limited scope.
Some of us remember when America spoke about all the Arabs for years after 9/11 in the exact same way Ben Gvir seems to do. “It’s only wrong when he does it, though.”
What about America and all that we’ve done to people all over the world for 100 years? Sure, maybe it was someone else pulling the strings, but we were complicit and often even cheered it on.
Matthew 7:3 - And why beholdest thou the note that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Did you see the part where I said that dude is wrong, too?
I’m not defending him. At all.
Do you think all Jews are Zionists? Do you think all Jews think that “intentionally creating evil to hasten the coming of their ‘messiah’ “ is a good idea and in line with God’s Will?
Yes I saw that, but then you try to explain it so to make ppl feel less or more on the subject. When anyone does that tactic- to me it feels like a forum slide.
I try to get people to do hard digs on specific issues and events and people and to discern factions and use specific language and understand contexts and backgrounds rather than generalizing.
Repeatedly. It’s not hidden or subtle, it’s very explicit.
Generalizing doesn’t work. Emoting doesn’t work. Lots of people want to do that anyway, and claim it’s a problem to correct them, as if pushing things toward goose stepping and roman salutes aren’t also sliding, just in the other direction.
Itamar Ben-Gvir is an Israeli lawyer and politician who leads the far-right party Otzma Yehudit (Jewish Power) and has served as Israel's Minister of National Security since late 2022.
So he's not just some guy. He is their National Security Minister.
But hey, different strokes for different folks. I could always just shut up and let “do as thou wilt” be the whole of the law, I guess, but that seems wrong somehow.
“Control your emotions” is not “forum sliding” on a “research forum”. It’s the point, or at least a precursor to it.
If trying to get a “research forum” to “focus on research” in the comments instead of “emoting” is “forum sliding”, then that means that the forum has already been slid.
If you are defending the slide, that says something about you.
To put it another way, not the subject that’s being challenged, but the methods and interpretations.
If you want to hate, then hate, but hate will not win this war. Satan wants hate. The empire wants hate. Figure out how to love and give the adversary a great golden bridge to retreat across.
"To put it another way, not the subject that’s being challenged, but the methods and interpretations." Exactly. Interpretations....... BEN GVIR tweets something evil and you are like - Hey that's bad but but but but. Remember 911. The US was like saying the same thing. And I never said it was A SLIDE,but that it feels like it .
Again it's funny that you brought up 911 and the topic is an Israeli official's tweet/statement..... But according to you - we can't feel a certain way of what that piece of shit Zionist said .... wait for it.... because of 911. And because of how we felt against muzzies. And here's the cherry for the top....Israel didn't have anything to do with the gigantic push for that reaction?edit.. reaction did they??
The Silver belt and the Silver Plow. "The entire first line of Lebanese villages has been destroyed. We are destroying all the houses. The residents will never see them standing before their eyes again." - Israeli Defense Minister Katz bragging about war crimes on TV.
Israel Katz is an Israeli politician and member of the Knesset for Likud currently serving as Minister of Defense and a member of the Security Cabinet of Israel.
Your country is 9 miles wide at one spot. You could be cut in half in an hour. You make every neighbor hate you. The USA is no longer paying for your big mouth. Better learn to get along.
Itamar Ben-Gvir is an Israeli politician and lawyer who has served as the Minister of National Security since 2022
Member of the Israeli Knesset
He is the leader of Otzma Yehudit ("Jewish Power"), an Israeli far-right, Kahanist and anti-Arab party which won six seats in the 2022 legislative election and is part of the thirty-seventh government of Israel.
Ben-Gvir is a settler in the Israeli-occupied West Bank; according to the BBC, his "political background lies in Kahanism—a violently racist movement that supports the expulsion of Palestinians from their lands".
He has a long history of anti-Arab activism, leading to dozens of indictments and at least eight convictions of crimes including incitement to racism and support for, as well as possession of propaganda of, a terrorist organization (the now-illegal Kach political party).
As a lawyer, he is known for defending Jews accused of Jewish extremist terrorism in Israeli courts.
The real name of the Israeli politician known as Ben-Gvir:
Itamar Ben-Gvir.
Ancestry and Family Background? = Mizrahi Jewish Descent:
Itamar Ben-Gvir belongs to a Mizrahi Jewish family of Middle Eastern origin.
Mother's Background:
His mother, Shoshana Ben-Gvir, was a Kurdish Jewish immigrant from Iraq. In her youth, she was an operative for the Irgun, a Zionist paramilitary organization active during the British Mandate period, before becoming a homemaker.
Father's Background:
His father, Zadok Ben-Gvir, was born in Jerusalem to Jewish immigrants from Iraqi Kurdistan. He worked for a gasoline company and was a writer.
Despite his later alignment with radical right-wing religious Zionism, Ben-Gvir was raised in a secular, politically moderate household in Mevaseret Zion, a suburb of Jerusalem.
They MUST keep 🎵 "The Music" 🎵 going... because WHEN the music stops, Netinyahoo will have to face "the music"... and it's not looking like he's gonna be having a good time - because the people of Israel AND the whirled court are sick of his bullshit - which seems to be the only thing keeping him out of jail.
Now zoom out a bit more... Israel is a British/City of London stronghold in the middle east. Filled with the EXACT SAME kind of stay behind units, complete with caches of weapons, cash, food etc as the WW2 Gladio stay behind units - initially justified as "keeping communist Soviet Union" from advancing further West in Europe - but the REAL reason was to CONSTANTLY STIR UP SHIT - Chaos on demand - EVERY "terrorist" attack in every country are these people... including the US. Just in case you were wondering how "Summer of Love", antifa & BLM came about... Same cabal
I used to think the prophetic idea of all the nations going to war against Israel seemed somewhat irrational, like they would be responding to some mysterious signal, but my thoughts on this have changed. If the government of Israel doesn't stop their insane vindictiveness, it will happen because they provoked the whole world to make it happen.
Stop with the "kill you and all your families" stuff. We have enough of that with your brother Ishmael. Move on like a nation of rational adults who want their people to prosper.
Lebanon was fine until the Palestinian diaspora flooded their Southern border. It skewed the demographics and everything has been shit since. Beirut used to be the Paris of the East.
They are just like the Islamists they like to point the finger at. Problem is both sides play this game, total bloodlust toward the other while endlessly condemning the other side for being the same way.
What people miss in this entire discussion is that with Middle East and other Eastern Asian cultures is that they believe might makes right now matter what. This is why people trying to explain the actions of Iran and Israel through a Western lens keep missing what is right in front of them.
u/#q4024
....... Letting them dig their own grave. A month ago Netanyahu and Ben-Gvir were saying that expelling Hezbollah was the only path to peace in Lebanon. Now they have declared everyone in Lebanon, civilian or not, a legitimate target.
The walls of the grave they have dug are only being held up by a steady supply of American weapons.
jews hate non-jews
Exactly specially whites because we are a threat to them.
Loxism is a mental disease. It’s a pathological hatred of everything White Civilisation has created. They want to replace it with brutal ugliness.
Same with Trump requesting Europe step in with the Strait of Hormuz. Just because those of us were awake know to the problem players are doesn't mean the rest of the world does. Make them declare their position publicly, for the world and the annals of history to record. The make your move.
They think thebsame about the u.s.a. too. Theyed wipe us out gladly if they could. Pretty sure they keep trying.
Soon the day will come when Israel has no more Allies and Nations start purging the Jewish lobby from their Institutions. Time for the men & women of the World to start taking back their Futures & Destinies.
Israel wants to be hated for their 3rd temple prophecy.
well that explains a lot
Was this the last time They were trying to rebuild it? https://files.catbox.moe/e5lcu0.jpg
Kek. Pry. Pretty sure the third temple is the body. Rather doubt a third temple of stone would be allowed, but who knows?
There may in fact be one when everyone is required by God himself to go to Jerusalem once a year, though I have no idea exactly why or what purpose it would serve.
Explained away again.
… what.
Dude I’m agreeing with you, here.
That's a strange way of it. "There may in fact be one when everyone is required by God himself to go to Jerusalem once a year, though I have no idea exactly why or what purpose it would serve."
Quoting scripture, dude, and also stating that I don’t understand that part.
That would explain a lot. What’s that prophecy, exactly? Not familiar with it.
Sure. An amateur expert in everything, except this particular topic that has been discussed countless times on this board.
I wonder who made contributions to those discussions and were they useful? I wonder?
I’ve seen the generic claim that they are seeking to rebuild the third temple and some seek to promote evil to hasten the efforts and return of Messiah plenty, and those are known as fact, and debated even among Jews.
I’ve seen the specific Talmudic / Old Testament “prophecy” not once, and your pilpul comments aside, have no interest in studying the Talmud to find them. It’s common to not bring up specifics on prophecy, Christians tend to do it a lot too, and after looking, I only found a lot of generic references to “a prophecy”.
Also I am an amateur, as I note to everyone who has emphasized that I am an “expert”.
I find it interesting that you bounce between siting Bible verses and talking about Christians in the third party?
Some people tend to militarise Christian faith against Christians.
All the while the subject gets overloaded with comments and slides away.
Prithee, what precisely would I be militarizing against the faith by calling for seeking righteous judgment, and encouraging research to that end, and discouraging the incessant venting of anger and hatred? You’ll note that I do not hammer threads this direction when actual research is being provided, though I may disagree with conclusions and add context, which is anyones’ right.
“Hate your enemy”, just like Jesus commanded? Is it Prince of War or Prince of Peace? I’m seeking peace in a war. It’s a hard path.
Yes, and that’s intentional. I openly denounce denominationalism, by which I also consider Catholicism as a denomination, it is intended to emphasize the unity of the faith.
Maybe it’s because I’ve already gone through the anger phase 10 years ago, or maybe it’s cause you’re (supposedly) Irish, or maybe you yourself are trying to pull Christians away from their call to temperance and provision of mercy, grace, love, and charity, which would be the exact same “militarizing against the faith” that you’re accusing me of because I’m asking for research instead of spewing hatred.
Again, It’s ok when we do it.
With every reply, your position gets weaker. You are not a position of authority.
Christianity is nothing about constantly turning the other cheek against constant wrongs.
Who did our Lord drive from the temple?
Again with the call to authority and the condescending tone.
Anger phase? Always bringing claims of emotions into a discussion to belittle the other side.
Research? You only need look around. Who is behind the militarised mass migration? Who has subverted every Western government? We don’t need any more research.
Name one SINGLE occasion when any European Country representative (not some lone nut case Zionist controlled opposition clown) in recent years called for the genocide of another nation.
Just go away. You are only stirring up, poking anyone who notices, telling them to stop being emotional and ignore the decay around them and more importantly, who is behind it.
I can picture the smirk on your face.
Okay long story short. Rabbinic/Talmudic hardcore Zionist Jews believe that for their messiah to come and for the 3rd temple to be constructed the world must turn on Israel.
They hate Christianity because one they think Jesus was a false prophet and two they view Christianity as the continuation of the Roman Empire who under Hadrian destroyed the second temple and slaughtered them after they revolted.
What’s hilarious here is not that this dude is right, cause he isn’t, but that some posters here would find his speech to be an affront when they’re constantly speaking the exact same way.
The question we should be after is - how do we solve some of these very obvious problems WITHOUT being this guy?
John 10:10.
Thankfully, Trump seems to be dealing with this particular situation, but that doesn’t mean we won’t be having to fight similar battles at the local level at some point.
Lots of beams in lots of eyes.
Pretty much.
It’s only ok when we do it.
u/#OhReally
Ya, rly. There is so much hate directed at all Jews right now, it’s wild. If it’s not all of them, certain regular parties saying it sure suck at how they word things, and sure never bother to correct anything to a more limited scope.
Some of us remember when America spoke about all the Arabs for years after 9/11 in the exact same way Ben Gvir seems to do. “It’s only wrong when he does it, though.”
What about America and all that we’ve done to people all over the world for 100 years? Sure, maybe it was someone else pulling the strings, but we were complicit and often even cheered it on.
Matthew 7:3 - And why beholdest thou the note that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Damn you sure try to explain Zionist actions,deeds away. It's "hilarious".
Did you see the part where I said that dude is wrong, too?
I’m not defending him. At all.
Do you think all Jews are Zionists? Do you think all Jews think that “intentionally creating evil to hasten the coming of their ‘messiah’ “ is a good idea and in line with God’s Will?
Yes I saw that, but then you try to explain it so to make ppl feel less or more on the subject. When anyone does that tactic- to me it feels like a forum slide.
I try to get people to do hard digs on specific issues and events and people and to discern factions and use specific language and understand contexts and backgrounds rather than generalizing.
Repeatedly. It’s not hidden or subtle, it’s very explicit.
Generalizing doesn’t work. Emoting doesn’t work. Lots of people want to do that anyway, and claim it’s a problem to correct them, as if pushing things toward goose stepping and roman salutes aren’t also sliding, just in the other direction.
Again, it’s ok when we do it.
Itamar Ben-Gvir is an Israeli lawyer and politician who leads the far-right party Otzma Yehudit (Jewish Power) and has served as Israel's Minister of National Security since late 2022.
So he's not just some guy. He is their National Security Minister.
so if Pete Hegseth said that, is a rough equivalent?
What a charmer!
Men like this will turn the entire world including the USA against Israel. It is Biblical. Zach.12-14
By "biblical" do you mean PSYCHOPATHIC ?
I am just a humble anon. Them big words go over my head! Kek
Kek everyone hates me pointing stuff out instead of thanking me for trying to turn away their wrath and encourage them to temper their emotions.
Maybe they wanna see what Zechariah 14:12 feels like firsthand. I’d rather not test that water, myself.
https://files.catbox.moe/0ce7i5.webp
But hey, different strokes for different folks. I could always just shut up and let “do as thou wilt” be the whole of the law, I guess, but that seems wrong somehow.
See what I mean?!? See what you did there?
Wrath, not eyeballs. Words mean things.
“Control your emotions” is not “forum sliding” on a “research forum”. It’s the point, or at least a precursor to it.
If trying to get a “research forum” to “focus on research” in the comments instead of “emoting” is “forum sliding”, then that means that the forum has already been slid.
If you are defending the slide, that says something about you.
To put it another way, not the subject that’s being challenged, but the methods and interpretations.
If you want to hate, then hate, but hate will not win this war. Satan wants hate. The empire wants hate. Figure out how to love and give the adversary a great golden bridge to retreat across.
"To put it another way, not the subject that’s being challenged, but the methods and interpretations." Exactly. Interpretations....... BEN GVIR tweets something evil and you are like - Hey that's bad but but but but. Remember 911. The US was like saying the same thing. And I never said it was A SLIDE,but that it feels like it .
I am saying, bluntly, that a lot of people approach the “Israel for last” issue with the same generalized hatred that Ben Gvir has.
You tell me how doing the exact same thing he’s doing, but in a different direction, is good.
I repeat, “It’s ok when we do it.” is a hypocritical argument that is neglecting the plank in your own eye.
Again it's funny that you brought up 911 and the topic is an Israeli official's tweet/statement..... But according to you - we can't feel a certain way of what that piece of shit Zionist said .... wait for it.... because of 911. And because of how we felt against muzzies. And here's the cherry for the top....Israel didn't have anything to do with the gigantic push for that reaction?edit.. reaction did they??
The Silver belt and the Silver Plow. "The entire first line of Lebanese villages has been destroyed. We are destroying all the houses. The residents will never see them standing before their eyes again." - Israeli Defense Minister Katz bragging about war crimes on TV.
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/187042 video subtitles
Israel Katz is an Israeli politician and member of the Knesset for Likud currently serving as Minister of Defense and a member of the Security Cabinet of Israel.
“greater israel”
david ben gurion said they wont buy land but conquer it
he seems suspiciously prophetic
At the same time they are clearing their ancient homeland in Ukraine, sorry Khazaria.
Your country is 9 miles wide at one spot. You could be cut in half in an hour. You make every neighbor hate you. The USA is no longer paying for your big mouth. Better learn to get along.
when you are out with your friends and your one friend tries to start a fight with a stranger because he knows you’ve got his back
WHO IS BEN GVIR?
Is he also an east European pretender, like bibi?
I dont know. here's what A.I. says:
The real name of the Israeli politician known as Ben-Gvir:
Itamar Ben-Gvir.
Ancestry and Family Background? = Mizrahi Jewish Descent:
Itamar Ben-Gvir belongs to a Mizrahi Jewish family of Middle Eastern origin.
Mother's Background:
His mother, Shoshana Ben-Gvir, was a Kurdish Jewish immigrant from Iraq. In her youth, she was an operative for the Irgun, a Zionist paramilitary organization active during the British Mandate period, before becoming a homemaker.
Father's Background:
His father, Zadok Ben-Gvir, was born in Jerusalem to Jewish immigrants from Iraqi Kurdistan. He worked for a gasoline company and was a writer.
Despite his later alignment with radical right-wing religious Zionism, Ben-Gvir was raised in a secular, politically moderate household in Mevaseret Zion, a suburb of Jerusalem.
(AI can make mistakes, so double-check)
Thanks.
Awww. A democrat.
Huh??
They MUST keep 🎵 "The Music" 🎵 going... because WHEN the music stops, Netinyahoo will have to face "the music"... and it's not looking like he's gonna be having a good time - because the people of Israel AND the whirled court are sick of his bullshit - which seems to be the only thing keeping him out of jail.
Now zoom out a bit more... Israel is a British/City of London stronghold in the middle east. Filled with the EXACT SAME kind of stay behind units, complete with caches of weapons, cash, food etc as the WW2 Gladio stay behind units - initially justified as "keeping communist Soviet Union" from advancing further West in Europe - but the REAL reason was to CONSTANTLY STIR UP SHIT - Chaos on demand - EVERY "terrorist" attack in every country are these people... including the US. Just in case you were wondering how "Summer of Love", antifa & BLM came about... Same cabal
u/#honkler
I used to think the prophetic idea of all the nations going to war against Israel seemed somewhat irrational, like they would be responding to some mysterious signal, but my thoughts on this have changed. If the government of Israel doesn't stop their insane vindictiveness, it will happen because they provoked the whole world to make it happen.
Stop with the "kill you and all your families" stuff. We have enough of that with your brother Ishmael. Move on like a nation of rational adults who want their people to prosper.
They want it to happen. Zionist theology is actually insane. They want the world to turn against them.
"All of Lebanon must burn!"
Christianity constitutes approximately 37% to 43% of Lebanon's population.
As of 2020 29 were Jewish.
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOPPPPPPS!!!!!! ... Guess the gas-bag did NOT think of that outcome...OOOOHHHHH MY!!!!!!!!!
I would call them Pontificating Gas Bags, due to what they are!!!!!!!!
Spent way too much time in that neck of the world!!!!!
Israel needs to shift from loud to quiet operations to eliminate the problem.
There are no fully quiet operations in the age of cellphones and cloud sourced investigative journalism.
Besides which...they seem to have no shame and flaunt their bloodthirsty dominance acts every chance they get. This is but one example.
like COVID and mRNA shots?
Most of the local investigative journalists are dead. Someone thought their investigations were antisemitic.
It’s a good job they don’t completely control MSM, otherwise we would just get a completely biased, one sided opinion about what is going on.
eliminate may indeed be the only solution
He would be an interesting movie date.
You'd move over a few seats so the people behind you would think it's just him.
Lebanon was fine until the Palestinian diaspora flooded their Southern border. It skewed the demographics and everything has been shit since. Beirut used to be the Paris of the East.
So glad to see jews post stuff like this. The mask is coming off for the world to see
Operation Let Them Speak.
30-40% of Lebanon are Christians.
He should have a long conversation with a Christian from Lebanon they have cried enough tears
They are just like the Islamists they like to point the finger at. Problem is both sides play this game, total bloodlust toward the other while endlessly condemning the other side for being the same way.
What they sow, so they shall reap.
They have a siege mentallity.
What people miss in this entire discussion is that with Middle East and other Eastern Asian cultures is that they believe might makes right now matter what. This is why people trying to explain the actions of Iran and Israel through a Western lens keep missing what is right in front of them.
You're on your own then.
If we had not paid your way you would have long ago been stomped out. With peace in the ME you lose your gravy train.