Well, what convenient timing... "Deepfake detectors can be defeated, computer scientists show for the first time"
(www.eurekalert.org)
BREAKING NEWS
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Isn't actually a new thing, they are just pretending it is news.
Even if it was new news, this should come at no surprise to anyone. It's like saying something is "unhackable"; it's all marketing talk, and anyone who knows about how fast technology progresses should know that there will inevitably be a way to circumvent a system. To combat it requires constant vigilance and infrastructure upgrades at all points. Complacency breeds a disaster-prone environment.
If one man can make it, another can break it.
It like every time police get new radar gun, someone comes out with a new radar detector. Come to find out, one company is making both.
Correct.
Deep Fakes were only ever an issue when it came to sharing them on social media. When it comes to the legal system and trials, Deep Fakes could always be identified by the forensic data.
Yep
That shit don't even pass the human eye test. They need to go back to the chalkboard on their 'detector tech'
Human eyes are way better at human faces and human movement than computer vision ai.
Agreed! Every fake I've seen seem like a fake to me. The recent one with Obama (I guess the one in the article) looks fake as hell.
Hey did you notice the two 2020 Queen's Christmas ceremonies? One was an obvious deep fake... Pretty shit quality too... However, I got thinking, why would they do that... Then I went and compared the 2019 ceremony and the apparently real 2020 ceremony and noticed the 2020 queen has a lot less lively color to her, as well her moles to the left of her neck are lighter than the previous year... Then, I remembered she got coronavirus in the summer... What are the odds that she didn't make it and they had to release a shitty deep fake to throw off the fact that the other one was a more elaborate deep fake?... Just a thought worth investigating... :)
At this point I would believe anything. But you're right, the one with the deep tan doesn't really look like the Queen. Unless it's an homage to Trump. :)
It looks like United Spot's videos, only not as funny.
I know, Obama hasn't ever had Mr. Spock eyebrows.
This is a really bad deepfake. But I think they are demonstrating that even a bad deepfake can go undetected by this technique.
Something must be in the pipeline
Pretty much this.
Oh shit! Thanks for spelling it out for me. That is definitely it.
TFW you hear the glass shatter thinking Stone Cold is about to come out, only to see Alex Jones with no shirt on running towards you at full speed
Yuk.
Yum.
Hmmm . . . That is interesting. They've been laying the "Deep Fake" foundation for a couple years now.
Sadly, it won't help them. IF the military really does arrest people the they really do have it all. No amount of narrative fixing will save them then.
But the timing is very interesting.
Always Obama in these examples. Hmmm...
Trying to get ahead of something?
can do the counter fake in post.. the things that can be done even LIVE are nuts.
Tulsi Gabbard's phantom chin zit enters the chat
Deep fakes were first public knowledge in summer 2017. I believe in the Hillary timeline, the “new normal” was released between 2025-2030, and deep fakes were never revealed to the public. Zoom+The extreme covid cult+deep fakes being a secret tech+People asleep.
I hope and believe the patriots gave us both deep fakes as public knowledge and a gimped one year trial of what could have been.
It was 2018 when I realized why I just learned what a deepfake is. I knew right out the gate it had to do with Epstein’s videos
I thought ol "Get Out" guy released one RIGHT after Trump's victory and inauguration? Deep fake of Obama. He did the voice for it... not that well.
If the public had no knowledge of deep fakes, and the “new normal” happened in that terrible alternate universe we hopefully avoided thanks to Trump beating Hillary; ZOOM+FACE COVERINGS+DEEP FAKES BEING UNDETECTABLE OR PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE=AN ELITE NWO WITH SUBJECTS WHO COULD NEVER POSSIBLY REBEL, THEY WOULDN’T EVEN BE ABLE TO KNOW WHAT TRUTH WAS WHEN IT COULD BE MANIPULATED THAT EASILY...
WE WERE THAT CLOSE!
If you worked with convolutional neural networks or their predecessors, you knew about "deepfakes" long before 2017. They were never a secret technology nor are they from the future. Where in the name of all that is holy did you read that???
The only reason they became known worldwide was because they started to look decent and anyone with a decent PC could make one around that time. Prior to that, it took a lot of time to make one and the results, while cool looking, were unnatural and fake looking the instant you saw one.
As a researcher (and experts) in this area - Good luck.
The problem with any deep fake detector:
The model that generates deep fakes are going to directly be tested against the detector. That enables the deep fake generators to improve.
It’s a classic arms race problem. If you make the detector public, you can expect the deep fake models to incorporate that input very quickly.
That looks fake as shit. I don’t need a detector to see that.
I think the problem they're demonstrating is automated detection can be fooled even by an obviously bad fake. Rumble, Gab TV, and other video services will need to implement automated detection.
I'm confused. I actually read the article, and it seems to say to me that this is not about having the ability to prove something is a deepfake with detectors we've already had in place. Rather, it says that there is now programming that interferes with the detector's ability to identify a deepfake. In other words, if the DS puts out a deepfake of Biden, the detectors would prove this and the whole thing is proven as fake. But if new software over rides or defeats the detector's software, then the deepfake of Biden will be shown to be "real." Do I have this right? Many seem to be reading this simply as we have the ability to identify deep fakes. It seems way more than that and quite scary given the potential ramifications if a deepfake is unable to be detected as such.
You're right. This is not about identifying DFs, it's about defeating automated detection.
I didn't watch it closely but it looked like there was some kind of intentional mistake near his nose. This might be the same thing as face detection defeating face paint. You paint simple black and white geometric shapes and then your face can't be detected but humans can easily still recognize.
Manipulated computer files leave artifacts. The artifacts can be disguised or hidden, but they can't be eliminated. It's just a matter of finding what new trick was used. That has been going on with computer files as long as there have been computer files. Fake is fake, and they can always be scientifically proven to be fake. It's just a cat and mouse game. And in the end the persistent cat always wins.
I bet the DS is somewhere crapping themselves hard right now.
Uh oh.
LOL... ohhh, this shit again? Every time the Deep State thinks shit is going to drop, there is a whole wave of "Deepfake" news and DNC politicians hyperventilating about the dangers of "Deepfakes".
It's painfully obvious that they are just building a foundation to express doubt when compromising videos are dropped.
But... these are all garbage. I've seen some versions that are WAY better than this, and it's still obvious AF that it's an edited video. Even to an untrained eye.
The kicker is going to be obvious.
White hats know that the "deep fake" cover story will be used prior to releasing any video evidence that puts them in checkmate. So they will likely have 2-3 points of corroboration to go along with the video evidence that can't be explained via "computer scientist" hax0r3.
They are so stupid.
Tell it to the judge!
(at your tribunal)
This is bullshit btw.
The Emma Stone vids are the best porno deepfakes I've seen so far. She seems to have a symmetrical face good enough for the computer to recognise because vids look so much like her haha
A better mouse begets a better mousetrap, and a better mousetrap, a better mouse.
Here's a weird, related commercial that was in the super bowl about celebrity lookalikes. They have been setting up deep fakes and lookalikes for a while now.
Kind of funny that the example used can be detected as fake by the human eye...
Deep fakes look fake. They have a long ways to go. We also get better at detecting computer generated bullshit. If you’re old enough to remember when the first Toy Story came out and everyone talked about how real it looked. It sure doesn’t look that real now. Especially compared to part four. Which still doesn’t look real. The closer they get, the further they have to go. It’s called the Uncanny Valley.
This could be part of their "reality czars" and "ministries of truth" so based on their dowsing rod tech they will inform the masses which video is to be believed or burned.
I heard JE didn’t like digital video. Too easy for others to get hold of. He had the physical negatives in his vaults. This probably won’t matter
Pshh. A computer detecting a computer.. whatever
That's like claiming somethung is idiot proof, when the universe is always developing bigger & better idiots.
Trace buster buster buster.
As shitty as it was, The Big Hit was a pretty good movie.