Not gonna lie kinda nervous about this. I am either gonna have to risk forging one and getting fired if I get caught or have to try hold out as long as I can. Anyone else in a similar situation?
Really wish the Q team would make their move lol.
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But you can still GET and SPREAD the disease if you're vaccinated. That makes NO sense.
It makes sense if you accept that they hate you and want you dead.
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Yes, but I think we are at a herd immunity level and it will be used to say the vaccine works, because cases are falling. Too hard to educate people on either the math or the logic. Get a thin mask so your oxygen isn't compromised and wait a while. Either side effects or people getting sick anyway will change opinions.
hear immunity or they changed the pcr test to lessen positives I am not convinced their is a virus called coronavirus 19, could just be the flu. We know death count is fraudulent
Bingo! ZERO data on transmission!
The vaccine is not FDA APPROVED, it has been released for emergency use, and is still under investigation. I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole.
Even if it was fda approved, I still wouldn't trust those government professional liars.
“But the scientists made it” yeah, SpaceX is dedicated to launching and landing rockets and still had one blow up last week.
“Science” is not like a law of physics. It’s simply a blueprint that CAN have flaws CAN be improved on, and SHOULD be challenged.
Scientists also made thalidomide.
Let’s not forget frontal lobotomies
My doctor recommends I smoke Camel filtered cigarettes.
Science is a process by which hypothesis are tested and proven true.
Yep! We’re still on the experiment stage.
People trust it because “I know so and so who took it and they’re fine”. Let’s see how long that holds up.
Or not proven true
Yes —or rather hypothesis ya true (or not) and experiment can be replicated with the same results...
Computer models are not “science” they are just models. I.e. cliMate change. Real world data has not aligned with models.
"Science" is a methodology but it has become a religion. Scientists are just people who use the scientific method: come up with a hypothesis, test the hypothesis as objectively as possible, correct the hypothesis as necessary. If you do that then you too are a scientist. But the way it's presented, scientists are these mystical people who are conveying a hidden understanding of the universe that only they understand and can interpret.
Agreed!
Me too - I know its coming. My attitude is to speak clearly and calmly and with conviction. I will say I can not give my informed consent. I will take a vaccine when the UK government address the concerns raised by those in their field. When they provide a clear answer as to why HCQ (use the full name) wasn't prescribed right at the early stages when there was research out there saying it worked and then that research was taken down and the authors silenced. I will say to my employer all I ask is for transparency from people who are insisting I take it. My mum took a drug in the late 60's for morning sickness called Debendox - it caused terrible birth defects and my sister died. I think I have a right to be informed before I consider consenting to an experimental vaccine.
Please don't live in fear of that moment when they say that to you. That's my opinion. They will have to actively discriminate against me at work by making me wear a mask because I will not vaccinate, they are discriminating me because of my beliefs. If they do that to me then I address my career choice.
You know the governments are making the businesses mandate vaccines don't you - so the governments don't look bad. I can see it coming, well in the UK anyway.
Go Jahova witness on them. Religious discrimination. I can't put anything in my body it's against my religion.
NY removed the religious exemption.
Move.
How would they know whether or not you got the vaccine? Do they have a right to force you to divulge your medical information?
when was HIPAA overturned?
We are going to have to put in a serious effort to come out with a way to fake this vaccination. I know there are a good amount of doctors that aren't on board with this. We need some fake IDs
Good attitude!
This is why I am self employed. I hate working for people. Even top management in corps are always doing stupid shit. I don't tolerate stupid very well. I do hair. Cancel me? Great! I won't have to pay shop rent anymore and I can go house to house and charge more. Whatcha got next? Gonna follow me? Good! All my clients are Trump supporters and have massive caches of weapons...next?
Canceled by Tom MacDonald is my anthem! Make your own way. Think outside of their box. Half the country will 100% support anyone and anything that removes our dependency from them. What skills do you have that can assist that?
Based self-employed business people like you are leading the way! I'm hoping to get up the guts to start doing this, too.
We need to build our own businesses, and serve our own clients first.
I truly believe there are more of us than them. If we all do our part and build our own businesses, communities, and economy, then we take back the power without a single saber being rattled.
If Q ends up outing and prosecuting the abusive swamp, then we end up not only in a better position for ourselves right from the start, but we also offer an immediate life boat for everyone else.
Wow, can attest to that. I work for a bunch of less than stellar thinking individuals. They decided they would combine what my job does with another job, same category of job but totally different depending on whether you work for a dr or the facility. It's a disaster of course but they'll never admit it doesn't work, they'll just keep pushing forward even at the expense of the facility.
Just take the mask off and say you have been vaccinated. I doubt they will even check!
Seems like it would be some kind of hipa violation or privacy violation to be on a list.
Plus, if you are forced to vaccinate or get fired, couldn’t you sue if you were to get side effects from it? Not the big pharma because they’re immune, but your company? For example if your company said “eat ___ or you’re fired” and you get an allergic reaction, would you have a basis to sue?
If it comes to that I will certainly ask that question and demand the answer in writing.
This is my plan. Take nothing by word, all in writing. Plus, it’s 99% of the time not even worth the time arguing with you about it.
Apparently there are hipaa wavers in regard to covid.
It's illegal for them to check. HIPAA
Be careful being so confident about information if you don't really know. Trumps admin issued Hipaa waivers
Nope. Not regarding the vaccine.
Please show me the clause in HIPAA that stipulates this.
Not everywhere. New York, yes. My sister told me. I haven’t checked personally. I’m in Alabama, after all. ( ;
I’m expecting my workplace to pull the same kind of crap. Last we heard though, we’re not going back until October. But with the international Virus Scam winding down, I have a feeling it will be sooner than October and they will demand we take the vaccine. I will not wear a mask or get the vaccine. I’ll continue to work from home as long as I can.
My job is on site if it’s between the mask or vaccine I’ll keep my mask.
As much as they suck, id wear a mask over getting that too. But after most are vaxxed, why would u need the mask? Lol. To protect yourself? This all so got'dang ridiculous!
Just some food for thought. The CDC, and others, has already hinted at continued mask wearing. Even after a vaccine!
I don't want you to end up in the worse case scenario where you get the jab because you're tired of wearing the mask only to have to be forced to wear a mask down the road in a few months when hay fever starts up.
The thing that is unfortunate about the mask is that businesses can make the mask a work uniform, then fire you for not wearing the uniform.
Luckily no one can fire you for not getting a vaccine, though I am certain they will try. They will try to get you on every little thing you mess up on to give them an excuse to let you go. But legally they cannot fire you for not getting a vaccine (until governments start passing laws that enable that)
TL;DR : If you don't want to get the experimental vaccine then don't. They cannot make you. But they can fire you for forging a document. And you will lose respect if you are found to be lying about it.
Fuzzy wuzzy was a woman?
Stick with the face diaper, when wheryone else is dying and sick in 6 months you will rule the place. Seriously though I really believe in 6 -12 months there will be so much buyers remorse.
lie and say you took it. easy. hippa violation if they ask
But aren’t they pushing for the stupid vax cards?
cross that bridge when you get there, there will be counterfit ones made by patriots. this is nazi germany
SAME SHIT HERE..IN A VERY LIBERAL CEST POOL..
Get a very thin mask
I made one from a bug suit lol. The complained at work so I cant wear it there anymore. I will not get a shot. I am hoping that the deaths from the shot start very soon and nip this before they start forcing people to take the gates shot of death.
Hope nobody dies. But I think it will be inevitable and shit will start hitting the fan. I’ve been trying to tell my parents and friends to at least wait to see what happens with “long term side effects” if they’re so DEAD SET on getting the damn thing
That is a really important point - I will be looking into this. I believe in the UK there is this law also. Guidence will be coming out because a lot of us are going to be forced to present our beliefs to our employers. Bastards - bring it on, but I am going to research up and then post on here to get other Anon approaches.
Never take the vax ... Mask are stupid and useless , but you can slide it down to breathe when the mask police aren't around .. At my work .. Im Techincally an enforcer of masks .. But I never say a word to anyone that isn't wearing one or wearing it properly... Only time I stay anything is if a mask karen is nearby .. So they can mask up while the Karen's around
No one getting the shots is signing informed consent papers that I can find and I'm asking. None of these people seem to know that they are participating in a medical experiment on an emergency use authorization. I hope everyone that is administering shots understands that they may be charged as an accessory to crimes against humanity at the end of this. The nurses in the nazi concentration camps were executed too. Doing your job is not an excuse.
I feel terrible for you. The first thing me and my brother said after this election went down was we thank god our jobs are blue collar and we are self employed. We won't be impacted by these things. But my prayers go out to those that will go through things like this.
I will only say if you have a family you will know the right thing to do when the moment comes. You are obviously a decent person.
Your fellow employees are going to start dropping like flies. Soon, you'll be doing all the work ; everybody else will be dead.
Wear the mask (after poking a hundred holes with a seam ripper or large needle) with holes that can't really be seen.
No vax - happy breathing - keep job
The only other alternative is for everyone to coordinate a walk out at once. Everybody at once or it will not work.
If you work with happy vaxxers and need to keep your job, follow the instructions above with a cloth pattern mask where the holes will not be seen.
They told me I have to wear a mask at work. I told them okay, wear a bandana under my shirt and work hard enough to where they can't replace me. We'll take this country back starting with Florida.
My first response would be to ask the employer why this wasn’t a requirement for flu over the previous period of my employment given that by the CDCs (UK would be the ONS) own data shows that flu is still a much bigger killer than the virus then I would require for the employer to provide me and my family with any and all cover including the right to sue them if I suffer any side effects or consequences due to taking the vaccine and for this cover to carry through my whole lifetime...Think also risk management and health and safety at work laws. Here you could use the same legal principles as is used with other work related illnesses like the consequences of working with Asbestos etc I would also make that requirement based on the lack of trials and testing of these vaccines and the negative effects that have happened plus the inability of myself to be able to sue the pharmacy company that made the vaccine....
That’s where I would start then I would move down the long and provable list for example, that this virus has a 99.8% survival rate....etc etc
An employers requirement for existing employees must be ‘reasonable’ in legal terms and the current scientific data just doesn’t pass that threshold...
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you can't be forced to take the jab. see my post from a little while back and others on GAW have suggested a couple other ideas, but this should be sufficient: https://greatawakening.win/p/12hRjA2lYG/how-to-avoid-covid-jab-if-being-/
and if you make the effort to buy yourself an oxygen meter that has a hose/tube on it and measures at a minimum between say 10% and 25% oxygen content in air then you can measure the oxygen content right beside your mouth with the mask on. it will measure below the OSHA minimum of ~19%. you are in a work environment, so they can't make you wear it if it violates OSHA. also can use this data to have your doctor acknowledge that you have a medical condition (your "medical" condition might happen to be everyone else's; that you require 19% minimum oxygen content), although HIPAA laws don't allow your employee to pry into your medical records meaning legally you only need to announce "i have a medical condition" but if you've been a cuck and wearing the mask there for a while you might not feel right with this sudden pronouncement without the OSHA backup data
above all else, be confident, consistent and don't waver and make sure you have the goods before they might illegally lay you off. they can't fire you for not taking the jab per my link above and if the mask can be proven an OSHA violation they can't fire you. do your homework on all the health effects one could expect to experience from extended lack of proper oxygen
good luck
Hi. Well at least they have the mask off as a concession I know it's a bad situation but that is better than get vaccinated and keep mask. So my co-worker got the vac the other day he got the J&J viral vector one. Now I really really think he's going to be fine he took the one I would have if I felt I needed a vac which I don't. In his case covid would have been very bad for him I work with a lot of guys making a buck while retired so I hope he's safe. He's also a MSM life time watcher and he asked me for a red pill the other day! So keep it up everyone it's working!
You are being told to LIE TO PEOPLE and in doing so could potentially kill them?
they said you cannot take your mask off and you also must continue to social distance . . .
I will pray you find a solution. Dear Lord, I feel the Jewish people who died are saying "I told you so, they will be coming for you next."
Nobody did anything - they were just doing their job . . .
Pease Love Hope and Light to you and your coworkers.
So dumb bc they admit the vac doesn’t stop you from contracting or spreading the virus. Simply alleviates symptoms smh
You're employer cant get your medical records. That's a HIPPA violation
Tell them you’re waiting for Covaxin to come to the US. The only one I’d even consider taking at this moment
Looks like an actual vaccine, not gene therapy.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/health/bharat-biotech-covid-19-vaccine.html
Covaxin looks intriguing even from the other diseases and colds standpoint
My body My choice...Try that.
Keep the mask and hold out till April.
Trump said Covid is over in April. Also Easter, Jesus rose from the dead. I think though he won't be alone.
Yes he did.
Typical end of all seasonal respiratory viruses.
Such a shame all this, I feel blessed that even though my state has a Dem Governor, Most of the communities here did not shut down and have had little to no enforcement actions. A large part of our state population just said screw this. The retail business and restaurants mostly followed guidlines to avoid fines etc, but most all private business just carried on as normal with individual choice of masks etc.. what worries me most is Air travel and how I am going to deal with any vax requirements when we start traveling again. I’m determined not to take the vax...
Same.
Quit
What’s required for proof? Legally, I don’t believe they are allowed to even verify, so...how’s that supposed work?
That's when you say you've already had COVID; therefore, the vaccine is not necessary. Mask off.
Ask them if they will compensate you if you have an adverse effect. If it comes to cause cancer in the future will they take responsibility? Will they pay for fertility help if it affects your ability to have children. What if you die, will they pay your family? How can they tell you to take something that could potentially kill you. I’m so ready to get a lawyer with this crap.
So much this. Just start talking about potential legal liabilities and they'll back down, especially if you get a group of coworkers to join you. And be sure to save all communications so you can sue them for wrongful termination just in case