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Amen. But it’s a bunch of hypocrisy because the priests of said religion are diddaling boys.
4% of Catholic priests. 5-7% of public school teachers.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/do-the-right-thing/201808/separating-facts-about-clergy-abuse-fiction
I believe it is higher in both categories. Consider the source and who completes these studies.
This. Your children are much safer in a Catholic Church than a public school.
Not this. Not at all.
If you believe that column, you had better do some hard digging. First off, the person writing that column is literally a scholarly member of the Catholic Church. He's the Augustin Cardinal Bea, S.J. University professor. He works for the church treating abusers (ie covering for them).
The fact that he says that the church has "used best practices to deal with this issue since 2002" is a ludicrous statement.
The Catholic church, to this day keeps their records of abuses secret unless brought to court, moving priests around to different diocese. Plante also claims in that article that the number of abuses has "dropped to a trickle." That's horse shit. The very offices in charge of dealing with abuse in the church can barely keep up with the amount of complaints streaming into it. The number has grown 4x in the past decade.
The report cited in this column is the John Jay report, which doesn't say that only 4 percent of the Catholic clergy are predators. It says that 4 percent of the clergy serving in the United States had formerly had abuse complaints made against them. And do you know how I know those numbers are wrong? Because the AP discovered more clergy members (1700) who had had complaints filed against them whose behavior had actively been hidden by the Church.
As for school teachers, that 5-7 percent is not the number of teachers being accused of abuse, that's the percentage of students that claim sexual abuse in school. Now, that's still a horrible thing, but when you look at the ratio of students to teachers, 5-7 percent of students is a much larger number than 5-7 percent of teachers. It also is the inverse of the church situation.
There's a lot to be said for sexual harassment and sexual assault in school and other places. But it's absolutely insane to compare public schools to the Catholic church and its systematic cover up of literally thousands of abusers world wide.
Catholic priest here. In principle, I do not disagree with anything you said, however, there are distinctions to be made. Please don't consider anything that follows a defense... (Before I begin, though, Augustin Cardinal Bea died in 1968. I am not sure what you are attributing to him.) First, the percentage of satanic pedophiles is quite low in over-all proportion. I cannot cite numbers or references because only these evil, bad-actors really know. That being said, the higher up the hierarchy you go, the higher the proportion. They are the "Deep Church" branch of the whole Cabal/One World Order thing. Second, outside of the satanists, the percentage of true pedophiles is in line with the statistics of societal norms (which is horrifying). (I'm sorry. I seem to have lost my references, but these things can be looked up and verified. Depending on how you interpret the John Jay Report, you can see it quite clearly.) Third, the John Jay Report (and almost every other one) sidesteps that the vast majority of these cases is against post-pubescent males. The technical term for this is Ephebophilia. Since they are post-pubescent, the attraction is to those that by definition are physically mature. This means the attraction is homo sexual. (Not my opinion, look it up in a psychological dictionary).
Fourth, it is unclear exactly what percentage of priests are homosexual, but I would guess both from studies and my own experience that depending on the area, it varies between 30% and 70%. Maybe higher in some places. Perhaps a significant number of these men do not embrace a homosexual lifestyle or act out, however, many do. Moreover, they protect each other, promote each other, are subsequently more morally deficient and blackmail-able, etc. Therefore, the crisis is manifesting as pervasive homosexuality in the priesthood vastly higher in proportion than in society at large. To the degree that they act out, leads also to their mental/emotional/spiritual/theological corruption as well. This holds the rest of us down and either squelched (go along to get along) or constantly in trouble or sent off for reeducation or resentful or leave. Almost nothing in the Church is encouraging holiness and inspiring a desire for sanctity. On the other hand, God is using the persecution and hideous mess to wake us up and to take responsibility for this abomination of desolation. (Daniel 3:26-45) If I hadn't truly met Jesus Christ in the Sacraments practiced at my hands, I would have left the Church. As it is, I will not abandon Him to this mess or hold Him hostage to the sins of men. Just like Francis is at one and the same time the head of the Church and head of the Anti-Church, so the Church itself is both at one and the same time the beautiful, spotless, Mystical Bride of Christ and the whore of Babylon. Almost two years ago, the Pew Research Center conducted a study of belief in the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist. Among practicing Catholics, the number was 31%. After seeing how He has been treated by priests and bishops during this 'pandemic', I suspect that 31% extends to the clergy as well. The good will and desire to follow the path of righteousness in the majority of Catholics has been used against us by the Enemy. He has crippled us by weaponizing obedience and orchestrated a mutiny from within over the course of many years. I think God is going to use the secular powers to scourge His Church, because there is no normative legal path for us to do anything about the situation. (Cf. pretty much ALL the pre-Exile Prophets) The Church isn't a democracy. The leaders do not have to answer to those under them like in our civil government. Therefore, if someone unscrupulous ascends to these positions, they only answer to Christ--that is supposed to be so that they can preach the Gospel in season and out without fear of men. Answer to Christ, they will. (1Sm 24:7) Please pray for the purification of the Church--not just the Catholic Church! If the whole human part of the institution as it is currently comprised has to be destroyed in the process, so be it. The satanic, pedo, human trafficking, horror HAS TO BE STOPPED no matter the 'cost'. Am I hopeful? Yes. Very. God wins. He wins from the Cross, though. We must be praying and sacrificing and staying united to Him as He is always united to us--especially in our sufferings. I ask everyone: what sacrifice are you willing to offer in union with Him as He accompanies these poor children in their horrors and delivers them by the hands of soldiers and others? Jesus was the first to say WWG1WGA.
Quick question. Did the Catholic Church really start based on the passage of the Bible relating to Jesus stating that His church would be based on the faith of Peter?
Can you elaborate on how you got those numbers in the 3rd paragraph? The article you provided doesn't actually support the statement you're making. The 1,700 priests were not 'discovered' by the AP, they were being 'checked up on' and found to be unsupervised after being discharged from their roles as clergy members. The names of the 1,700 were found through lists that the Catholic Church provided of clergy that they considered 'credibly accused' of abuse. It's also worth taking into consideration that many of the cases that are being reported are a) from adults who were abused as children, so while the actual abuse may have taken place decades ago, the reports are only now being filed and taken seriously, and b) the article you linked to cite 4x growth in reports is taking into account international reports, not just that of the U.S., while Plante's article is citing that 4% statistic from a US-only study. Quote: "“We’re effectively seeing a tsunami of cases at the moment, particularly from countries where we never heard from (before),” Kennedy said, referring to allegations of abuse that occurred for the most part years or decades ago. Argentina, Mexico, Chile, Italy and Poland have joined the U.S. among the countries with the most cases arriving at the congregation, known as the CDF." The Catholic Church isn't faultless by a long shot, and it's been demonstrably proven that they were involved in child abuse cover-ups previously, but it also certainly isn't as bad as it has been in the past.
Totally safe if not altar boys
LGBT scout masters were not the one doing it though.
Yeah I remember being warned about pervs in the Boy Scouts back in the late 80's. Never had any bad experiences myself but I won't have anything to do with them anymore.
Was a scout in the 70s and adult leader in the 80s. I never saw it.
Also, Protestant clergy are accused of abuse at a higher rate than Catholic priests too. But the Deep State MSM always wanted everyone to hate the Church the most instead.
Church organists are notoriously scummy.
Gonna need some sauce with those round numbers, Europa.
The 1% number for priests doesn't even come CLOSE to passing the smell test. If it did, there wouldn't be hundreds of dioceses around the world (just that we KNOW of) where priests ranging from the lowest noob up to the level of cardinal were found guilty of this disgusting perverted shit and, instead of being tried in court and imprisoned for decades, were repeatedly shuffled around to different parishes all over the place, trying to hide it. It's the most massive problem the Catholic church has ever faced, and that's saying something.
Although, in fairness, before this discussion can yield fruits, someone would first need to explain in detail how the fuck anyone could ever know the actual percentages of pedophiles within the ranks of academia and religion.
A point of clarification. Academia consists of college researchers and professors, not "school teachers." I am not defending academia. I am not saying there aren't any college professors who are pedophiles. I am only saying the groups being studied are not "academia" but are "school teachers" (primary and secondary schools). They are distinct groups.
You need to know the over all number of priests that exists..its not every single one..just like every American is t lumped together as guilty due to the Cabal. Frankly more lay people are diddlers in regular schools
NOT ALL MUSLIMS are suicide bombers, either. So fucking what? The muslims who are driving the entire worldwide discussion surrounding islam are the horrific violent extremists and suicide bombers. That's the big deadly existential problem islam has right now that it is utterly failing to address.
Not every priest is a childfucker. So fucking what? The priests who are driving the entire worldwide discussion surrounding catholicism are the horrific pedophile priests and the pope, cardinals, and bishops, who do nothing but shuffle the child-rapists around from town to town, state to state, so they can enjoy violating the sacred trust of more children. That's the big deadly existential problem catholicism has right now that it is utterly failing to address.
Sorry to be the one to break the news, but you need to wake up already.
Tge religion is hypocrisy those who diddle are. You don't judge the religion by any humans actions. They are not the church. They are just people . Ones led astray. You dont want America to be judged because of Biden , Hillary and the likes.....
Because the Kingdom of God and the kingdom of Satan cannot coexist peacefully. “The Kingdom of Heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.”
because sin itself aims to destroy God. So if through sin they can destroy God’s Holy Church, then they feel they have won.
They don't care. The goal here is to stage a narrative that religion is bad because it labels LGBT people as sinners thus making them victims. The goal behind the goal is to create a wedge between the masses and their belief in religion.
Religion is bad because it victimizes poor innocent LGBT minorities. Why would you believe in such a horrible religion? Here worship the government instead its benevolent and helps people. Don't forget to pay your taxes.
Make sense...?
I'm an atheist. I could care less what most religious people think of most things I do. At least not when they call it sin and say I shouldn't do it just because the bible says I shouldn't. These Marxists are just using LGBT issues as a tool to replace god with government. Because they aren't atheists. They worship the idea of an all knowing all powerful government like a god.
If same sex couples want to get married, get married. Just not under God.
“There is nothing new under the sun.” Ecclesiastes 1:9. https://i.pinimg.com/564x/db/42/f6/db42f6ce7446666092a3388845d10894.jpg
New age is just paganism from Egypt and Samaria, disguised as “new”. Just like Catholicism, heavily pagan (not to be offensive to anyone).
Oh I don’t disagree with that, I’m just stating they’re perhaps the most pagan denomination. Roman Catholicism is also the antichrist.
Revelation 17:9.
Catholic priests are facilitators of sin on a galactic scale.
They have lost any right they ever had to preach about sin, morality, marriage, sex, children, right and wrong, etc. It's gone. Gone forever. They are history.
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Should I judge you by the acts of Biden and Hillary.??? Are you equally guilty by association? Immature thinking...
No, dummy. I didn't vote for Biden or Hillary, or join a homo pedo club like the priesthood. Wake up already.
Anyone who comes up with an exaggeratedly perverse and disjointed non sequitur like that has no business lecturing others about the quality of their thinking. Thanks for trying.
If they don't like it just create your own religion ?
Just like the thousands of PROTESTant religions who didn’t like the one Jesus founded.
The tens of thousands of Christian sects can't decide which is the right version of Christianity. What makes you that authority?
The fact that it is the oldest institution in history and hasn’t gone back on any of its official doctrines in 2000 years despite pressure from kings and having some bad popes is proof that Jesus is keeping his promise about the Holy Spirit protecting the one true church he founded. It is the only church proving continuous Apostolic succession with an unbroken line of popes (successors of Peter, the first bishop of Rome). We were on our 4th pope before the last book of the Bible was finished being written.
I don't know what you're considering 'official doctrine' but there have been at least two revisions. The most recent was in 1965.. First time since the Council of Trent that they stopped referring to Protestants as 'heretics'.
ignoring peoples personal choices and personal time, why the fuck would the vatican, essentially the most known and historical figure around, ever 'bless' something that did not lead to the continuation of the human species?
asinine.
I celebrate reduced birthrates, said ONLY a liberal human.
Evil infiltration into good is what you are seeing...evil only seeks to destroy that which is godly.
Catholic here. I feel like Catholicism is a huge scam. God should be free.
Then you are not a Catholic and consider stopping calling yourself that. Your sentence sounds moronic. And you are not a moron.
He could be a moron though
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This was posted on Telegram in Feb.
Not sure if it's true. They say that the Marines went into the Vatican during the blackout and repatriated $229B in gold.
If you read the death lists, you'd see that the Pope and all the Cardinals have been executed.
If that is true, then you might want to invest. See Quantum Financial System. Act of 1871.
I'm surprised you guys don't know about the red shoes.
Oh, we KNOW.
Call a spade a spade...if it acts like a duck and quacks like a duck...its friggin duck..
Then you arent anything but a fallen away Catholic. You need an education on said religion. Seek it.
Jack Posobiec is a Mossad agent and an anti-Q apologist.
As a Traditional Catholic this gives me a little hope for the near future, but I've heard reports that Francis will not leave or resign or step down until they have legalized female deacons and same-sex "marriages" in the Church. They tried to push the deaconesses last year but it crashed and burned because not enough people in the Church are THAT stupid to forget what the Bible teaches. They're waiting a few more years until enough people are like "yeah sure I guess" to push it through. Gay "marriage" will be soon after that, depend on it. We're not out of this just yet. I'd say in the next 5-8 years we will see this stuff "legalized."
(Edit: not sure why someone is mad I'm stating some facts here. The Pope DID try to push for deaconesses last year, and they WILL try again someday, I just don't know when.)
Find the book "The Thunder of Justice". He will be forced out and flee to the holy mount...
The bishop of Rome is hoping the faithful will forget that he personally overruled the story of Noah's Ark by threatening the globe with a second flood if we don't bow to the high priests of the global warming cult.
In that case, poop francis will have to resign.
Duh, Roman catholic church doesn't let God's Word get in the way of their tradition.
Satan's Babylonian cult.
Does this mean they are about to Cancel Catholicism????
No...it is 2000 years old...they need to clean out the rot at the top just like the government.
It's been a theatrical scam the entire time... The Church created a false narrative and used guilt and violence to force people to accept it.
Nope. The fact that it is the oldest institution in history and hasn’t gone back on any of its official doctrines in 2000 years despite pressure from kings and having some bad popes is proof that Jesus is keeping his promise about the Holy Spirit protecting the one true church he founded.
If only
I was raised catholic and am a Christian, but the Catholic Church just screams deep state and Clearly has been infiltrated by the powerful elite.
Just love Christ. Forgive those who sin and love the world as God loves the world.