I'm not even asking for much but these idiots believe in the jab, think it's good for the world, and everyone should get it. Oh and carditis, congestive heart failure, heart failure in teenagers, and spike protein can all be written off as "outliers". It's fucking hard. The brainwashing runs very deeply.
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My dad is this way. He's a smart guy and normally very rational and logical. But, he got the jab and assumed I did, and I told him I a) wasn't jabbed and b) do not have plans to get the jab. I outlined the reasons why -- side effects, my low-risk category, etc.) -- and instead of accepting this from his son, he texted me back the next day and said that he can't have me around him and his wife anymore. We haven't spoken since, and this was about 2-3 weeks ago.
Fear causes people to do irrational things. I'm sorry for you and your dad both.
Fear also makes people selfish, ANY emotion is better than fear.......
They’re also the most boring people to hang out with. So I don’t even know why they think I want to hang out with them.
This is exactly what I said, too. I said "why are we calling those who worked without a vaccine during this entire time last year 'heroes' only to spit in their face when they choose now to refuse it?"
Hypocrites yes, only because t.v. told them to be this way.
How should I feel about this?! Quick! To the TV!!!
No one needs NPCs in their life. Good riddance pede. You have us
True that...winter is coming
Yes. Many of my friends & family feel the same way. It's been quiet eye opening for me.
My social circle is gone. God is my only friend these days.
Yes and you all ROCK! I cannot put into words how much everyone here means to me ❤️
NPC, didn't come from nothing......
My God, Pede, that's horrible. I haven't gotten to that stage yet with these guys but idk if it's far fetched to speculate it.
If we are honest about viral load - being around them is more dangerous for us than it is for them.
We are on borrowed time. Make it count.
Every single day is a blessing.
Soon nobody will be untouched by loss.
Ready for your Great Depression?
You cannot make him respect your decision but you can let him know you respect his. There will come a time when we all have to put those differences aside. Sorry if my "fatherly" advice is not welcome.
He sent me a TikTok video of a board certified physician basically saying "you have the right to refuse the vaccine, sure, but society has a right to shun you in response". You know, the usual lockstep narrative. This is his mindset.
I determined that it wasn't worth responding to and that any of my counter-intel would be stonewalled. He does love me greatly but his fear has consumed his mind. The oddity is, he's not a "Facebooker" (he deleted his many years back; but he does consume leftist media regularly. So there's some contradictions afoot.
I just ask for prayers and continued guidance from the Lord. I wish for clarity and for God to work his spirit through my father. I can't do much else right now.
So sorry you’re going through this. Just know that they’ve brain washed him and he’s afraid. I’m sure he still loves you too. All you can do is be there when he needs you. I’ll keep you in my prayers.
Me too
You hit the nail on the head. Very well put.
Thanks
((Big hugs))
I am sorry your dad doesn't respect your decision. Keep him in your prayers.
Thanks, Fren; and I definitely will. I appreciate the support. I would do the same for any one of our fellow Frens / Pedes.
Keep in mind that not everyone who got the "vax" may have actually gotten the real McCoy.
I believe the number of actual "vaxed" may be about 50% or less of what the Deep State thinks it is. The others received a placebo, which may have just been a saline shot.
The people that got the real deal seem to have numb arms and hands, aching joints, headaches or other problems soon afterwards. Those that didn't have any issues... likely got the fake "vax". There is hope.
If your family members were lucky enough not to have any complications to date from the "vax"... make sure they don't take the annual flu shot or the Covid "booster".
That's rough, I'm having a hard time reconciling how I think this will all turn out say 5 years down the line, I'm trying to be optimistic but it's hard.
My sister and uncle got the clot shot.
Man, I’m in the same boat with my GF. Hasn’t gotten it but will if the job mandates it.
It’s honestly made me question the entire relationship because she’s an awesome girl that I see myself marrying. But if you’re going to back down to your job mandating something, what else will you cave to in life? It’s a painful position, feel your pain.
Probably only like 5 or 10 percent dead and fourty pct permanently damaged.so it's bad but could be worse.
Where are you getting your numbers on how many people will be killed by the vax vs how many people will be seriously injured by it?
What evidence do we have for the saline shot?
It's been speculated so much that people just accept it as fact? Is that all we have?
You're correct. The issue is, we just don't know. I agree with information repeated enough times accepted as fact. The truth is, we have no hard data on this -- and it's by design. So anyone who mentions the saline shots in any specific amount is going off conjecture.
I'm fine with accepting it as a leading theory, but like many things on this site, leading theories become regarded as fact.
I have a problem with that. If we don't have enough information to truly determine something as fact, it's just a theory. There's a difference for a reason.
Yep, and doing that only serves to discredit our movement! The media just needs a smidgen of "discredited" theory to completely smear us on a global scale. We MUST use discernment.
Absolutely. Stay strong, pede. Fight the good fight, even on this website.
I run into idiots even on this site who get upset when I call them on their BS, or simply ask for a source, etc.
In a true clinical trial some get a placebo.
You could possibly be correct with that theory of 50%. I listened to a Dr talk about how she thought that between Dec 20 and March 21 that 50% were in fact saline. The rationale behind this was they (DS) couldn't afford a mass problem following many taking the first wakks.
This theory is based on wishful thinking at best. The idea that they want to mititgate deaths when they needed to create a pandemic out of thin air is laughable they really are seeking as many deaths as possible the nwo slaves and those that willingly get injected they see as disposable. The only way I see the saline theory being true is they might switch it out for their high value puppets because these vaccines are significantly more dangerous and cant take the risk but they dont do that for the public they literally are immune from lawsuits.
Where are you getting your numbers on how many people are getting the real vax vs how many are getting a placebo?
Thank you for this 🙏🏻
I've learned more about humanity in the last year and half than my entire life
Amen. You and me both.
1,000,000 updoots
I can't even save my own family. I understand how you feel. I bought safety stock of NAC- Amino Acid. I read I may help in removing the spike proteins from a persons system.
I just got my NAC today and have been trying to persuade my vaxxed wife to take it just to keep me happy. I don't think she will.
All you have to do is literally show her a web search of "NAC Pneumonia"; "NAC Liver"; and "NAC Lungs"
For example:
There is an NIH study showing the efficacy of NAC on respiratory infections:
N-Acetylcysteine to Combat COVID-19: An Evidence Review
Here's another study by the NIH: Rationale for the use of N-acetylcysteine in both prevention and adjuvant therapy of COVID-19
NAC contributes to the potent antioxidant / anti-inflammatory Glutathione. Here's a good video on the subject:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VD2Encm7njo
There are many more links. Tell your wife that if she actually believes in science that she will listen to you.
Thanks. This is a great idea. I think I'll watch the video myself.
No, she won't listen, even though I have more than one science degree.
She a leftie normie, there's a whole mindset for her to defend. I cannot be right because that would mean that she might not be right. The edifice could come down and that would be intolerable.
You're a strong-willed man, my Fren! And I can tell you love your wife dearly. This time is testing all of us.
Start with the official NIH literature and go from there. Even though the NIH is corrupt, as well as the FDA and the CDC (a nexus of corruption), we still have to use these sources when possible.
Sit your wife down with you and see if she'll do some research with you! It's worth a shot.
Thank you fren!
Proper healthcare is all about prevention. NAC can prevent mass-inflammatory events including cytokine storms which is what sends people to the hospital. Taking it regularly will only be a net-benefit. I am currently looking for a reputable and reliable supplier of NAC, since Amazon and Whole Foods (among other vendors) have been issued a cease and desist by the corrupt FDA, even though it's been in use as a consumer supplement for over 60 years. The FDA suspiciously invoked a little-known rule that is rarely used. It's corruption at its core.
The FDA can't even say it's harmful, because it's not. Unlike Ivermectin and HCQ, there isn't really a case that they can make against its safety (even though both aforementioned substances are also safe). The FDA just straight strong-armed it off the market.
https://captajitvadakayil.in/2021/07/22/we-shall-celebrate-24th-july-2021-with-gratitude-for-miracle-drug-ivermectin-and-wonder-drug-nac-capt-ajit-vadakayil/
https://earthnewspaper.com/2021/07/23/why-the-fda-is-attacking-nac-supplements-by-alliance-for-natural-health/
https://hardball.parkoffletter.org/nac-dr-rober-sehault/
https://medicalkidnap.com/2021/07/22/fda-wants-to-ban-another-natural-supplement-with-success-in-treating-symptoms-of-covid-19/
Here's a good piece by Lew Rockwell:
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/09/joseph-mercola/fda-wants-to-ban-nac-now-that-it-combats-covid-19/
Check out Vitacost. I just ordered 4 bottles, 120 caps per bottle. With shipping it costs me around 58.00
I bought my NAC here, recommended by another pede:
https://www.lifeextension.com/vitamins-supplements/item01534/n-acetyl-l-cysteine
Good info, thanks.
btw. having sufficient vitamin D levels also prevents cytokine storms by moderating parts of the immune system.
for example: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32451597/
I used to have a better source than this, but can't get to it now.
You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. This is the problem with trying to show people facts. People who are so far gone don't care about facts only platitudes they see on media and that's all they parrot. They will say anything you show them is bias against the jab so why even look at it.
Exactly. Did you see the interview between X22 (Dave) and Dr. Zelenko? Dr. Z talks about that exact psychological phenomenon here:
https://rumble.com/vmy4fn-dr.-zelenko-forget-class-action-lawsuits-there-will-be-tribunals-what-if-cu.html
He makes this point starting at 13:00 but listen to the entire interview. It's POWERFUL. Dr. Zelenko is an angel sent from God.
I take his protocol daily and feel great. I'll watch the interview but I see it first hand. I've tried giving people the information and they don't want to even read it. They've judged it without even looking at it as one sided propaganda. You tell them that the MSM does nothing but lie to you and they say shit like well...I watch it for the weather. I tell them why do you think the weather is the LAST thing they talk about? I get a lot of uhhhh I don't know..
He talks about just how his "Zelenko Pak" came to fruition. He discovered that certain supplements in concert, in the right doses, can have the same effect. But he found it was impractical to tell people how to combine the compounds in the right amounts. So he decided to take matters into his own hands and thus was born his wonder cocktail.
I have binders of URLs to share with them and they have nothing to share with me.
Same here. I have HCQ and Ivermectin. NAC. They still trust their doctors and think I'm a quack. It's so difficult to be awake right now, it's literally a living nightmare we cannot wake up from. To know what is happening and to watch those we love succumb to it is torture.
You rhymed, kek.
I had 1 friend who took the Moderna as soon as it became available. Called me to tell me go get it. I told her I already have CHF and clots. Dont need more. That was last I heard from her.
And that sort of behavior proves right there that it's not about health, but their selfish desires. Because if they were truly logical, they'd understand your condition prevents you from actually being able to take the shot. So, imagine if you took it and had a horrible reaction or died from it. Would their cognitive dissonance then also prevent them from realizing the horrible mistake they wanted you to make?
Yes it would. You see that with the parents who forced it on their kids who have died. For them to admit their culpability is too much to handle so they keep on pushing the shots. Truly, the banality of evil.
I actually think this is why my parents refuse to believe they aren’t safe because they would have to admit they put the old vaxx into us harming their own children. DENILE . ALL MY DIGS ALWAYS END BACK IN [EGYPT] RELIGION OR THE CELL,
Just had a message from a friend, that her boyfriend's father offered to pay for the repairs on her car if he'll(her boyfriend) will get the jab. This is sickening to me. These people are out of their damn minds. She said absolutely no way will that happen. Been telling her not to get it and she won't, neither will he. They're young, in their late 20s.
Jeez, that's fucked up.
I have 1 out of 3 childhood friends left
Live by example and be kind to them. When they are ready, they will speak to you. You can't force them to awaken.
Ive been telling my best friend how covid is a massive scam, elites hate us, vax/masks totally not needed, etc etc over months. Then suddently he tells me he got vaxxed. Since then he has been ill multiple times.
Travel seems to be the other thing that leads to people making irrational and destructive decisions for that short-term gratification. Like taking the vax because you want to go on cruise ships or planes internationally.
What happens when the vaxxed are banned from planes due to exponentially higher blood clot risk factors? The salt will flow..
In a way its very much like people taking a hit of meth or crack, they just pretend to be a higher calibre of idiot with that fake 'its for the public good' virtue signalling.
It's extremely tough fren, 3 friends are all talking to me about how they have had severe headaches, one friend had her face swell up along with her eyelids, and all three couldn't bare to look at normal light without it hurting their eyes.
I didn't go into any theory's, one thought it was because of the water she drank whilst on a short holiday (in the same country I must add) so I didn't elaborate on other possibilities. Another ended up in the ER due to blinding headaches and light hurting again.
Heartbreaking!
I don’t know how to bring up the thought it might be the vaccine to them. Out of pure scientific reasons I would like to have that discussion but I think these people are so irrational they’ll turn into agent smith on me
stop playing defensively against their narrative, sheep will follow you if you're a confident leader and make your own terms.
The wife's last day is October 1st. She's being placed on administrative leave for not taking the jab. Apparently, they're going to give her a month to sit at home and weigh her options. In the meantime, she's not working her desk and no one else can be hired for the position until they officially dismiss her... so the "jabbed" employees will have to do double duty. You can't make this stuff up. The medical industry is so screwed up right now. Nurses are leaving by the busload. In Georgia, the NG is being called in to help cover the shortage. Not enough help to go around before Covid hit and now they're pushing even more people out the door. What a mess!
Be thankful you have such a strong wife, sounds like many here have had spousal struggles throughout this. I’m sure you two share a strong bond!
I had given up the moment 1 of my friends, who hates gaming media mind you, looks for any cnn and MSNBC article to counter the narrative. Once he finds it no matter what I say or sources I site can change his mind. At this point I gave up and said go ahead and leave me the hyuck alone about the jab.
I feel that way with my family. I told my wife, I love my family but I warned them of the repercussions of taking this vax and they all ignored me. If they pass away, I will feel bad, but not mourn them as much as if they had died of other causes. The warnings are out there people, just look yourselves.
Question, if you knew the current state of affairs was coming and how people would react, would you have married your wife again? This is coming from a young 20 something who is having disagreements with his GF over the vax.
It is hard. I have two very close friends, colleagues of mine who I worked with closely until this time last year, then inevitably over time of me getting a new job and distance, we've seen each other less. I love them dearly, and my strategy has been when we have met up is to just avoid that subject altogether, or if it does come up, just to non-commitaly say something like 'Oh I'm sceptical about the whole thing after all this time' then change the subject.
Fact is, nobody believes this garbage unless they want to believe it. It really is easier being a normie and trusting that the government is looking out for your best interest, that doctors and pharmaceutical companies are trying to improve your health, that teachers really want to teach children life skills they need to be successful, and that businesses strive to make money by providing products that improve customers' lives.
For someone who believes all these things, has built their world view around and upon them, disproving even one of them will trigger a cognitive dissonance that will likely send them retreating back into their make-believe world loudly shouting LA-LA-LA to drown out the truths you are saying. Because if all these entities are not watching out for their best interest, then THEY become responsible for their own well being. And for some people, that is the scariest proposition of all.
It’s all Kenny Rogers my friend got a live your life by the gambler.
One of my best friends of 10 years recently told me he is not my friend and that no one cares about me or anything else in my life. All because I mentioned Ivermectin and HCQ does work and could have saved thousands of lives if it was used as early treatment. He called me a sheep. Luckily this was in a group chat with some other close friends and they ended up reaching out to me privately to cheer me up. Not 1 word has been said in that chat since.
There is always time for salvation but that must come from within. Your role is to be forgiving - it's a narrow path but it leads to glory.
Disagree. Time for salvation is a falsehood. People need to wake up now, and we're seeing many are lost forever.
Please read and reflect. Maybe the message won;t help you but it may help others.
https://jentezenfranklin.org/teaching/three-crosses
This message will help everyone make a thoughtful decision about their eternal life. Choose wisely.
I realized this about 3 months ago, about one of my friends. Used to be a Ron Paul independent, then started becoming way more socially liberal and all that entails.. Completely uninterested in things going on in the world because "what could you change", just wants to drink beer, smoke pot, play computer games, all on his dad's dime. Yes he still lives at home. He turns 30 tomorrow, and is a college dropout. Biochem major. Completely nonplussed by anything I've shown him regarding covid, "wearing a mask is polite" Yada Yada Yada.
I made the choice that I won't be an enabler, bringing him out with the rest of us and picking up his tab. He's been handed job opportunities, doesn't jump on them. The more I've thought about it all, the more disgusted I've become. So not really any skin off my nose to walk away. He knows my number if he ever decides to wake up.
I wouldn't write anyone off yet except those who have exposed themselves to be terrible people.
As for the others, the Great Awakening is still in progress and things are just starting to trickle out to the fully brainwashed. Millions of them are just now finding out Russiagate was a Democrat scam. They still think the Maricopa County audit just confirmed that Biden won, but that dam won't hold. They still believe the vaccine is life-saving and ivermectin is only for horses and idiots, but there are cracks in that narrative, too. Lots more to come, and each revelation will awaken a whole new group of people.
It’s Easier To Fool People Than To Convince Them That They’ve Been Fooled.
I lost my best friend of 41 years… fear is a powerful motivator it makes people think irrationally and not do their research. I said to her do you really think Bill Gates has your best interest at heart more than I do??? I said it’s a war between good and evil pick a side… she said I have picked my side. So that was it. God help them they are so asleep.
Focus onbuilding the world after with your new frens
I stopped trying. Save yourself and your family. Laziness is the root cause of their ignorance.
To win them over is to show them that you made it through it all without the need for it. Control group stays.
https://www.guelphtoday.com/local-news/family-wants-u-of-g-students-memory-to-live-on-through-kindness-4458530
This article exists. Read the first paragraph. .
Don't worry it was the formerly rare undiagnosed blood disorder that killed her and for sure not the vaccine.
"Just been diagnosed with."
These people are fucking sick.
I know a lot of people are dealing with this. I’m fortunate as even my vaxxy-vax friends know better than to debate me, and they happen to be high quality frens and family. There are some that I’ve kept at a distance, and I think they know why. I hope they are safe, and I miss them.
The woman in the red dress.
Your friends and family adhere to their convictions because they believe this is the safest idea. They are willing to fight for and die for this conviction, even if it means fighting you.
The red pill is easiest the earlier you swallow it but it doesn't shy away from truths that you must come to accept about your choices.
I am the only person in my family who is unvaccinated, both my husband and I stand firm on this. Almost all of our friends are vaccinated too.
My father, an extremely intelligent man, or so I thought, has not spoken to me for three months. Our last conversation I was told so long as I was unvaccinated I was not welcome in his home, that I was stupid and selfish and that he would never travel to see us. Didnt matter that I made an educated and informed decision for myself or what evidence I had to back up my convictions, I am “crazy”.
He was irate, more so when I told him he had made himself abundantly clear but I would not change my mind. I don’t know when or if we will ever speak again. Fear and this mindless mentality of believing everything on TV has changed him. Anyone else have problems with boomers and their blind trust of media?
If the vax mandate goes through I will most likely lose my job too.
We will not bend, but it breaks my heart. I miss my dad. I think about him every day, but I don’t see this mutual stand off ending.
For what it’s worth, I also GOT covid, treated early with HCQ, ivermectin, vit C, D and zinc and beat it in essentially 3 days. No side effects. Despite the rousing success I could not share this with my family, in fact, my extremely mild experience almost seemed to bother them.
Sorry for the essay, I’m just really fucking sad.
I beat it in 7 days no dr just a very good diet, liquid zinc Chopin wood for the fire frozen river jumps and sun bathing! I consumed it not The other way around.
Me too...and my whole family. Sucks
It’s a hard teaching. There are no “friends”. Epicurus be damned, as his “immovable pleasure” (friendship) is just more of his “hot air”. (AKA a fart)
I tell them that I sincerely hope that they are right and I am wrong. That always ends the discussion, I have so many friends and my own kids who got the jab. I can’t bear the thought of them all dying in 3-15 years. I want grandkids someday, so I hope and pray they are all okay. But unfortunately I study history, and I don’t put my faith in man and government, especially when they are lying constantly. History has shown us that sociopaths will kill millions of people.
a bunch of us have had a similar experience