Proton did hand over the account info for a French activist. However, they were ordered by both a French court and a Swiss court to do it and they did. An FBI request is just that, a request and it is on Proton to respond. If they do it their business is finished so it is wait & see.
OTOH... if you were the Feebs and wanted to slow down or stop new users from using an encrypted email service and maybe old users too, you might make a big show of asking for account info on a big group of people. Even though it is unlikely you'll get it but it will still be reported on like you will...
FInally, if you use Proton, do not make interesting subject titles. That part is not encrypted and AFAIK the only thing that is, is the body of the email. And they only way that can be viewed is if you have the password to access it.
Although that's not news to me, all I'm saying is you're gonna have hard time trying to avoid cabalist platforms when most entirety of the internet is run on their terms.
About 3-4 years ago there was some research going on over at Voat about ProtonMail and some shady stuff about them keeping user logs and its owners connections.
Just verified by creating a new account. No, it does not require either email or phone number, and if you are using VPN to access you are 100% anonymous (except for whatever you may send/receive in the email itself)
"Yea my friend was approached by a detective because they think he may have information on his neighbor who is a terrorist suspect. Obviously he's an FBI informant so I cut all ties with him."
protonmail said all the emails are end to end encrypted with hashes generated from user's password.
If that's true, they should have no ability to comply.
They had a warning when I signed up, saying that if you lose your password to your account, they can't help you recover it because they can't decrypt it themselves.
Your password is used to decrypt your emails and other data. Proton does not have access to it. If you forget your password, you will lose the ability to read your existing emails and access saved data.
You can regain access to your Proton account only if you remember your previous password by following these steps.
Thanks! I thought I read something to that effect when I created my accounts. I also have Ctemplar email based out of Iceland and it’s supposed to be end to end 4096 bit encryption.
We can't really say "Protonmail is compromised" just because FBI requested info. Depends on what they will do, and how they will proceed. Right now, giving them a point for letting us know.
FBI can request all they want, doesnt meant they are going to get it. Protonmail isnt even in america and the glowies dont have international power to do whatever they want. plus I dont run and burn all my accounts just because Gorka puts out something that may or may not be true. Ill need a bit more sauce than a tweet.
FBI are terrorists.
They need to be prosecuted under RICO
Protonmail is in Der Schweiz
If your emails are safe anywhere that’s where.
Promise.
The Swiss has the biggest data security rights anywhere.
Basically if they get that data you better burn all your shit cuz everywhere is wrecked.
Not “protonmail is comped” but “everything is comped”
That’s the case at some point - just dunno yet when.
Hence why I run my own email. Good luck finding the servers.
Are the servers in your bathroom?
Cloth on hook right next to them too I'd bet.
farts nooooooo
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Proton did hand over the account info for a French activist. However, they were ordered by both a French court and a Swiss court to do it and they did. An FBI request is just that, a request and it is on Proton to respond. If they do it their business is finished so it is wait & see.
OTOH... if you were the Feebs and wanted to slow down or stop new users from using an encrypted email service and maybe old users too, you might make a big show of asking for account info on a big group of people. Even though it is unlikely you'll get it but it will still be reported on like you will...
FInally, if you use Proton, do not make interesting subject titles. That part is not encrypted and AFAIK the only thing that is, is the body of the email. And they only way that can be viewed is if you have the password to access it.
Great points
Proton runs. A great shop and does also allow Envrypted email in that the FBI would still need PGP pass to see the content.
If you don’t have that enabled good idea now.
Outside of that always use PGP at least with emails.
Encryption won’t stop them but it slows them down. I mean if I have a choice to shit in their bed I am doing it.
Use it while you have it yanno.
Project Veritas used a tip line from ProtonMail.
The Feds are after them.
Don't forget O Keefe comms with pizza and silver hair. Idc if he is playing chess. He did it
Wait I missed this. Please enlighten.
Let's see what they do. The FBI can't order them to do shit in Geneva. It's a request. They have to know it will destroy their company if they do it.
Thats the fear. Of course what about our site here?
🎯 shout out to whistleblowers who distributed by proxy. They are gatekeepers
Duh.
check OP's account. 42 days, 5 comments and this is the only post and its fake as fuck.
What does that spell out.
"hay guiz dojt use protein mail it's bad and illegal. Use Gmail for all your larps erm I mean militia planning."
-taliban
true
hi?
Noted, but my real issue when looking for a email provider was that they were associated with CERN and their satanic opening ceremonies. No thanks.
Bro those CERN scientists created the internet so they could communicate and exchange data.
DARPA created the internet (i.e. packets, IP addresses, all that stuff). TimBL (CERN) created the web on top of it (URLs, web pages, etc.)
Why lie? Everybody knows that Al Gore invented all that stuff.
CERN logo is the triple 6. They are a Satanic front company. It doesn't matter what they invented
Although that's not news to me, all I'm saying is you're gonna have hard time trying to avoid cabalist platforms when most entirety of the internet is run on their terms.
CERN scientists? Sounds like a honeypot
Request.
Doesn't mean it'll be granted.
Incoherent much?
About 3-4 years ago there was some research going on over at Voat about ProtonMail and some shady stuff about them keeping user logs and its owners connections.
Protonmail doesn’t require phone/other email verification to sign up at least, I don’t think there’s much info they can get without that
They need your IP address............. use a VPN
I created an account without having to provide either for sure
I created a yahoo account without either. but that was a longggggg time ago
Just verified by creating a new account. No, it does not require either email or phone number, and if you are using VPN to access you are 100% anonymous (except for whatever you may send/receive in the email itself)
Not required. A backup email address or phone number is optional and used only in case you forget your password.
WTF OP?
did they actually COMPLY?
or are we going to just drop anyone that FBI rolls up on?
"Yea my friend was approached by a detective because they think he may have information on his neighbor who is a terrorist suspect. Obviously he's an FBI informant so I cut all ties with him."
-OP's logic.
Am I compromised if someone just looks at me funny? 🤔
I can understand shill posts. What I don’t understand is all the updoots.
Protonmail is based out of Switzerland. Pretty sure Fuck Bois Inc can fuck right off.
I don't think the upper echelon of the CIA gives a hoot about you or your emails - unless it directly threatens them.
This is low-level "I like to wear mirror shades and polos to the Insurrection " stuff that Switzerland will not comply with.
omg i just joined
Give the Jan 6 grandmas who are still in solitary confinement our best wishes.
https://protonmail.com/law-enforcement
proton mail cannot decrypt messages as it states in that link, thank you for posting
https://protonmail.com/blog/climate-activist-arrest/
https://encryp.ch/blog/truth-about-protonmail/
I created a protonmail account for this account. I don't actually use it but I get notifications for all the times I used it. Sorry guys.
Did we all just quit checking our spelling because Q misspelled things? Feels like it's becoming more common.
No sweat fren. Just saw a lot more than usual today and wondered if folks were doing it intentionally. ;)
Does Protonmail keep record of all your email history or are they gone forever once you delete them like Ctemplar mail?
protonmail said all the emails are end to end encrypted with hashes generated from user's password.
If that's true, they should have no ability to comply.
They had a warning when I signed up, saying that if you lose your password to your account, they can't help you recover it because they can't decrypt it themselves.
EDIT: https://protonmail.com/support/knowledge-base/reset-password/
Thanks! I thought I read something to that effect when I created my accounts. I also have Ctemplar email based out of Iceland and it’s supposed to be end to end 4096 bit encryption.
Yes they do according to swiss law, 6 months iirc
"trust muh IC/DARPA products guise they'd never lie mkayyyyy" 🤪🤪🤪
Abolish those corrupt and felonious dorks, along with all other 3-letter agencies and start over with the New Republic!
We can't really say "Protonmail is compromised" just because FBI requested info. Depends on what they will do, and how they will proceed. Right now, giving them a point for letting us know.
Funny, less than 24 hours after my post asking if I should move to them over GMail.
Always was
astronaut.jpg
How are they compromised?
Just deleted my 2 accounts a few days ago. Wasn’t using them anyway.
And I read where Private Internet Access VPN has been acquired by someone who has a no do good history, with ties to Israeli intelligence.
Strange Ties: Private Internet Access, Kape, and Crossrider
And did you see this about Protonmail from Sept 7:
ProtonMail deletes 'we don't log your IP' boast from website after French climate activist reportedly arrested
And this from Sept 10: ProtonMail Now Keeps IP Logs
I'm not doing anything illegal with Protonmail, but still.
What do you have?
at least wait to see if they comply first.
Been saying that for years. I don't even use Protonmail other than for burner accounts.
Thought: white hats are looking for 20K baddies who also use Proton.
As far as I know they didn't hand over anything to the Gestapo.
Aren't ProtonMail servers located in Switzerland....
Sauce? Or just screenshots?
FBI can request all they want, doesnt meant they are going to get it. Protonmail isnt even in america and the glowies dont have international power to do whatever they want. plus I dont run and burn all my accounts just because Gorka puts out something that may or may not be true. Ill need a bit more sauce than a tweet.
Always has been