Mislead by Pfizer? Why was the FDA lead by Pfizer at all? The FDA are supposed to be the leaders in the situation, not the followers. If the FDA didn’t have the time or resources to reach their own reasonable conclusions about Pfizer’s vaxx, then they shouldn’t have stated any conclusions. They should’ve left Pfizer flopping in the breeze without approval and without emergency use authorization.
In their defense, the situation is that they have to look at the data. Pfizer conducts the trial. No one else is going to spend 100s of millions to conduct a large-scale phase 3 clinical trial for a product that may fail except the guy developing it. So, that's the data we get to work with. Hopefully, the team conducting the trial is honest. There are a ton of checks in place, but ultimately, it comes down to trusting the reputations of the people presenting the data. And they can lie. There are lots of incentives: 1) publish or perish pressure, 2) desire for career advancement of developing new drugs, 3) profit motive, 4) ego motive, 5) fear motive if they deliver negative, unpublishable results of a failed drug. Their jobs may very well seem to be on the line.
And the company of course has incentive to get presentable results. 1) the world was watching, panicked, hoping for a "cure", 2) financial motive to be the first to FDA approval because that means control of market share, 3) PR motive to be able to position yourself as the "savior of Man", the "deliverer of life-saving medication". The CEO's job is very much riding on his ability to produce RESULTS for the shareholder.
We put perverse incentives on everyone involved, so no one wanted to be the one to hold up the safety data and say "this isn't good enough", not even the FDA. They knew the trial was rife with errors. Procedural inconsistencies (like they weren't measuring the damn primary end point!) were reported and ignored by the FDA because they had pressure on themselves to produce RESULTS. They needed something to bring to the American people to say "we're working for you." So, they used the EUA. Comirnaty never should've been approved.
And the data needs to be made 100% public. ALL of it.
There's no defense because even a cursory glance of how Pfizer managed the studies gave a multitude of indications that chicanery was involved. Their efficacy measurement was rigged (PCR COVID test that is known to be broken). Side effects that were known to occur were removed from data collection. Finally, when the stats teetered in Pfizer's favor they broke the blind and ended data collection. Of course, this led to long term effects never being analyzed.
After getting approval, VAERS reports quickly showed these products were doing awful things, but FDA/CDC/WHO/NIH buried their heads and kept pushing the product.
FDA also buried known, effective alternative treatments. Simple Vitamin D supplements likely would have rendered Wu-Flu damage nearly nonexistent, but were blocked from discussion by scientists, health experts, and journalists.
There's no excuse for the FDA. Many will be hanged after Nuremberg 2, and a hanging is better than they deserve.
There are no approved covid jabs. They said Comirnity was approved but that vaccine doesn't exist yet. That was a bait and switch word game. All the jabs being administered are only EUA authorized none are approved.
And it was not even an FDA spokesperson who said this, but a guest speaker. This particular OP is somewhat famous for posting misleading / bogus stuff like this. I don't think s/he ever verifies anything.
Greatly anticipating those trials! However, I'm not looking forward to public hangings like some patriots are. I think 30-year prison terms would be sufficient to keep them out of trouble, teach them a huge lesson, and burn all their deep state contacts. Then God could turn them over to Satan for eternity, or maybe not. It's a continual puzzle to me that some people repent while others refuse to do so.
So Prison terms where we have to pay for their meals!? No, they don't deserve to live in this world. We need to take out the trash... oxygen is wasted on them
thats steve kirsch talking to them thats not a person from the FDA
*Atleast I recognize the Steve Kirsch formatting, too long to listen, so maybe some of the FDA people are talking about it now, rather than Steve talking to the FDA about it. That would be wonderful
How do they figure any lives are saved? All I see is death and destruction from these poison shots. I don't believe one person has been saved by these jabs.
No - none of the gov't arms like FDA, EPA or USDA do their own research when it comes to approval of drugs, food products or GMOs. I don't think most Americans are aware of this. They review research provided by the makers of these things - those most invested in having a POSITIVE outcome. It's a complete CONFLICT OF INTEREST and it's why so many drugs or GMOs or chemicals etc. are "approved" and then LATER it's found out they're toxic, poisonous, debilitating, noxious, etc.
Ok .. help a fren out... isnt the FDA supposed to do its own work to verify safety..?? SO...by being "mis-led" it implies that Pfizer was doing the "leading".. Dont think thats how this is supposed to work... so yeah you bag of weasels.. that bs on "we didnt know..." aint gonna work..
No guys - they don't do their own research - they REVIEW the research provided by them by the DRUG MAKERS. The FDA "evaluates" the research presented to them. But this is what makes it such bllsht...drug makers are incentivized to have positive outcomes...so there is inherent COI. This is why so many drugs are "approved" and then LATER recalled or black-boxed or whatever when the death toll starts ringing once it's been rolled out to the public. It's actually worse then even now 'cause the FDA is so under-staffed and they don't have the manpower to thoroughly even review the sh*t data they DO get.
They've been underfunded and understaffed for their entire existence. This is why the PDUFA exists and gets renewed without question. If you want staff, you have to pay them. If you want fast service, you've got to front the cash for the infrastructure to do it. The gov't isn't paying, so the pharma companies pay and pass the cost on to the consumer. This is why your average drug takes 10 years and $2.5 billion to bring from discovery to market. The pharma company pays for the research, and the evaluation from the FDA.
... and then we give the drug for "free" to third world countries and sell it below cost to poor, strapped countries like the EU and Canada who have laws allowing them to demand low prices while our CMS/DHHS can't. <3
The US consumer literally pays for the world's drugs.
So your saying the FDA is like the rest of the government agencies funded by our tax dollars... a useless entity created to provide jobs for political friends into which money can be funneled (read laundered), and to provide a scapegoat for the political class to point at when it all falls apart...??? Have I pretty much got that right ..??. but Im pretty sure someone in that class will likely write a bill to throw more good money after bad (again read launder) to fix that "poor undermanned" organization... yeah sorry.. not sorry ..to the gallows with them all... Nuremberg 2.0 for every... EVERY one of them
No - drug makers present binders of data to the FDA and other regulatory bodies in the countries they seek approval - then the regulatory bodies review this data and grant approval on based on this data. The FDA reviews data that's been packaged and presented to them by the drug makers.
I live in Massachusetts and yesterday I heard an ad on the radio for the comirnaty jab. It isn't even available in the US and they're advertising it like it is. These people need to be destroyed physically. As in killed for their complicity in this genocide.
If only there was some records or a database to know if a company is a criminal, pathological liar...
Pleading negligence should not - hopefully, will not - allow them to get away. They're supposed to be "experts" who know medical ethics and enforce them, to make sure only safe products end up on the market, ultimately inside people... Hopefully patriots are the ones in control of charging everyone in this crime.
Slow killing the US population by let's say maybe 10 to 15 percent, then stopping any increase by sterilizing our youth and young adults. Makes it almost unnoticeable. They say we didn't know, though they have accomplished their goals already. We just haven't seen all the results yet. It will be slow and unnoticeable. As you see it's all about strokes, heart attacks, cancer, pneumonia. The sterilization you will not see for years.
Mislead by Pfizer? Why was the FDA lead by Pfizer at all? The FDA are supposed to be the leaders in the situation, not the followers. If the FDA didn’t have the time or resources to reach their own reasonable conclusions about Pfizer’s vaxx, then they shouldn’t have stated any conclusions. They should’ve left Pfizer flopping in the breeze without approval and without emergency use authorization.
They also should have made a reasonable assessment of the danger of the "virus" before granting any sort of authorization.
Was that an FDA rep who said that or an expert invited to the meeting?
What even is the point of the FDA if they accept at face value everything said by a company that they are supposed to be regulating?
What? Trusting a company that stands to make record profits isn't sound oversight? I can't believe it!!!!
In their defense, the situation is that they have to look at the data. Pfizer conducts the trial. No one else is going to spend 100s of millions to conduct a large-scale phase 3 clinical trial for a product that may fail except the guy developing it. So, that's the data we get to work with. Hopefully, the team conducting the trial is honest. There are a ton of checks in place, but ultimately, it comes down to trusting the reputations of the people presenting the data. And they can lie. There are lots of incentives: 1) publish or perish pressure, 2) desire for career advancement of developing new drugs, 3) profit motive, 4) ego motive, 5) fear motive if they deliver negative, unpublishable results of a failed drug. Their jobs may very well seem to be on the line.
And the company of course has incentive to get presentable results. 1) the world was watching, panicked, hoping for a "cure", 2) financial motive to be the first to FDA approval because that means control of market share, 3) PR motive to be able to position yourself as the "savior of Man", the "deliverer of life-saving medication". The CEO's job is very much riding on his ability to produce RESULTS for the shareholder.
We put perverse incentives on everyone involved, so no one wanted to be the one to hold up the safety data and say "this isn't good enough", not even the FDA. They knew the trial was rife with errors. Procedural inconsistencies (like they weren't measuring the damn primary end point!) were reported and ignored by the FDA because they had pressure on themselves to produce RESULTS. They needed something to bring to the American people to say "we're working for you." So, they used the EUA. Comirnaty never should've been approved.
And the data needs to be made 100% public. ALL of it.
There's no defense because even a cursory glance of how Pfizer managed the studies gave a multitude of indications that chicanery was involved. Their efficacy measurement was rigged (PCR COVID test that is known to be broken). Side effects that were known to occur were removed from data collection. Finally, when the stats teetered in Pfizer's favor they broke the blind and ended data collection. Of course, this led to long term effects never being analyzed.
After getting approval, VAERS reports quickly showed these products were doing awful things, but FDA/CDC/WHO/NIH buried their heads and kept pushing the product.
FDA also buried known, effective alternative treatments. Simple Vitamin D supplements likely would have rendered Wu-Flu damage nearly nonexistent, but were blocked from discussion by scientists, health experts, and journalists.
There's no excuse for the FDA. Many will be hanged after Nuremberg 2, and a hanging is better than they deserve.
What's fascinating to me is that anyone still believes in Nuremberg 2.0
https://youtube.com/watch?v=WFph7-6t34M
3 months old
There are no approved covid jabs. They said Comirnity was approved but that vaccine doesn't exist yet. That was a bait and switch word game. All the jabs being administered are only EUA authorized none are approved.
And a judge recently ruled they are NOT interchangeable.
That was only "approved" to be added to the EUA.
And it was not even an FDA spokesperson who said this, but a guest speaker. This particular OP is somewhat famous for posting misleading / bogus stuff like this. I don't think s/he ever verifies anything.
That happens on Q-type boards where the "conspiracy theorists" are months to years ahead of the curve.
Adam: “the woman made me do it” Eve: “the devil made me do it” God: <sigh>
Nothing new under the Sun
FDA, we know you know about the hidden cures, this is only the beginning for your group.
You won't be able to escape Nurnberg 2.0, FDA
They are trying to get ahead of it, but it won't work.
Greatly anticipating those trials! However, I'm not looking forward to public hangings like some patriots are. I think 30-year prison terms would be sufficient to keep them out of trouble, teach them a huge lesson, and burn all their deep state contacts. Then God could turn them over to Satan for eternity, or maybe not. It's a continual puzzle to me that some people repent while others refuse to do so.
Too high a risk of parole or reduced sentence with long term prison. Little deterrence.
Give them a year as slaves to give them a chance to find God. Then lethal injection
So Prison terms where we have to pay for their meals!? No, they don't deserve to live in this world. We need to take out the trash... oxygen is wasted on them
thats steve kirsch talking to them thats not a person from the FDA
*Atleast I recognize the Steve Kirsch formatting, too long to listen, so maybe some of the FDA people are talking about it now, rather than Steve talking to the FDA about it. That would be wonderful
How do they figure any lives are saved? All I see is death and destruction from these poison shots. I don't believe one person has been saved by these jabs.
The FDA doesn't do their own research?
No - none of the gov't arms like FDA, EPA or USDA do their own research when it comes to approval of drugs, food products or GMOs. I don't think most Americans are aware of this. They review research provided by the makers of these things - those most invested in having a POSITIVE outcome. It's a complete CONFLICT OF INTEREST and it's why so many drugs or GMOs or chemicals etc. are "approved" and then LATER it's found out they're toxic, poisonous, debilitating, noxious, etc.
Ok .. help a fren out... isnt the FDA supposed to do its own work to verify safety..?? SO...by being "mis-led" it implies that Pfizer was doing the "leading".. Dont think thats how this is supposed to work... so yeah you bag of weasels.. that bs on "we didnt know..." aint gonna work..
No guys - they don't do their own research - they REVIEW the research provided by them by the DRUG MAKERS. The FDA "evaluates" the research presented to them. But this is what makes it such bllsht...drug makers are incentivized to have positive outcomes...so there is inherent COI. This is why so many drugs are "approved" and then LATER recalled or black-boxed or whatever when the death toll starts ringing once it's been rolled out to the public. It's actually worse then even now 'cause the FDA is so under-staffed and they don't have the manpower to thoroughly even review the sh*t data they DO get.
They've been underfunded and understaffed for their entire existence. This is why the PDUFA exists and gets renewed without question. If you want staff, you have to pay them. If you want fast service, you've got to front the cash for the infrastructure to do it. The gov't isn't paying, so the pharma companies pay and pass the cost on to the consumer. This is why your average drug takes 10 years and $2.5 billion to bring from discovery to market. The pharma company pays for the research, and the evaluation from the FDA.
... and then we give the drug for "free" to third world countries and sell it below cost to poor, strapped countries like the EU and Canada who have laws allowing them to demand low prices while our CMS/DHHS can't. <3
The US consumer literally pays for the world's drugs.
So your saying the FDA is like the rest of the government agencies funded by our tax dollars... a useless entity created to provide jobs for political friends into which money can be funneled (read laundered), and to provide a scapegoat for the political class to point at when it all falls apart...??? Have I pretty much got that right ..??. but Im pretty sure someone in that class will likely write a bill to throw more good money after bad (again read launder) to fix that "poor undermanned" organization... yeah sorry.. not sorry ..to the gallows with them all... Nuremberg 2.0 for every... EVERY one of them
I see this simply as CYA kind of statement.
Isn't it the FDA's job to test vaccines and other drugs? Sorry, FDA, "We were just following orders." doesn't cut the mustard.
No - drug makers present binders of data to the FDA and other regulatory bodies in the countries they seek approval - then the regulatory bodies review this data and grant approval on based on this data. The FDA reviews data that's been packaged and presented to them by the drug makers.
Wow, that's oversight😡
"Misled by the $$$$$ millions"
Yep. And the promise of a multimillion big pharma corporate job once your short stint in the fda has provided billions in sales.
Ya don't say.
Kek. 4:20 mark.
This is a bit old and it wasn't someone from the FDA who made those comments, it was a guest speaker. Come on, people.
It's important to get some context. A lot of our headlines were by random people, statisticians, etc. not connected to the FDA laying out their data.
Is it actually a representative of the FDA stating they were misled by Pfizer and referencing the heart attack rates?
This is critical information.
I live in Massachusetts and yesterday I heard an ad on the radio for the comirnaty jab. It isn't even available in the US and they're advertising it like it is. These people need to be destroyed physically. As in killed for their complicity in this genocide.
Yet they don’t pull the EUA. Odd.
The FDA isn't saying this, Steve Kirsch is.
Ah, falsely mislead. As opposed to genuinely mislead?
We're gonna need a bigger gallows.
"Industry user fees"
https://www.twitter.com/francisboulle/status/1439359233720455169?lang=en
The FDA IS PFIZER People work for both organizations. There is also 70 CCP members on the BOD of Pfizer
So, where's the immediate revocation of their EUA for EVERY age group?
Alright so when will the b.s. mandates go away?
If only there was some records or a database to know if a company is a criminal, pathological liar...
Pleading negligence should not - hopefully, will not - allow them to get away. They're supposed to be "experts" who know medical ethics and enforce them, to make sure only safe products end up on the market, ultimately inside people... Hopefully patriots are the ones in control of charging everyone in this crime.
Oldpatriot, you regularly post suspect info. What's up with that? Are you a visitor from Shillsville?
They are specifically meant to be the organization making sure that drug companies aren't misleading them and the public. Lol
Victim card DENIED
Slow killing the US population by let's say maybe 10 to 15 percent, then stopping any increase by sterilizing our youth and young adults. Makes it almost unnoticeable. They say we didn't know, though they have accomplished their goals already. We just haven't seen all the results yet. It will be slow and unnoticeable. As you see it's all about strokes, heart attacks, cancer, pneumonia. The sterilization you will not see for years.
Find the guilty parties and put them on trial so we can hang them.