The theory is that they are protecting the unvaxxed, right? Because the vaxxed “won’t get hospitalized, will have mild symptoms”, so they must be protecting the people who are choosing to not get the jab. It’s insulting. It’s like saying, “obviously you’re too stupid to think for yourself, so we’re going to think for you”. But that’s theory. In reality, they are trying to protect themselves because they know the vax doesn’t work. They are also trying to cater to the woke mobs. If they had any business sense, they would just say “we support the vax, but more importantly we respect people’s rights to make healthcare decisions for themselves.” They’d get a hell of a lot more respect from everybody if they stood up for their employees rather than throwing their employees under the bus. Got to be one of the most bone-headed business decisions of all time, and yet the hits just keep on coming. Who’s making these decisions? Surely not captains of industry. Whoever is driving corporate wokeness at the expense of profits has no future in business. Business owners want managers who will do their job/make profits. If I’m a business owner and a manager I hire pulls this shit, they’ll be eating out of a trash can.
Ok, clearly I’m behind the times and the story of this company must have dropped on a day I didn’t log on to GAW b/c I’ve never heard of this clothing line, let alone the uproar about their mandate. And obviously, I’m not missing much if they’re mandating the shot like all the other crap corporations. 🙄
They think they can float on acrylic hats for the fashionistas. It's hilarious. They pissed off every blue collar patriot and thats the bread and butter. It's pretty much a uniform in Michigan.
It’s been my uniform for years now. Sad! Lucky for me, they’re long lasting so I don’t have to buy clothes for a while haha, but when I do, it probably won’t be Carhartt
I too have some of their gear and I won't toss any of it, because I paid good money for my stuff.
Instead, I'll do what someone else suggested and remove all of the Carhartt logos. That makes a strong statement for those of us who still need to wear our jackets.
I guess since they’ve mandated the shot I don’t need to worry about familiarizing myself with their merchandise b/c I certainly won’t be supporting them. One less thing for me to spend money on. 🤷🏼♀️😂
Clearly. I laughed so hard when I read that they would mandate- they have no clue who their customers are. I’m glad it did not take long for Carhartt to feel the pain. Many (maybe even most) customers will be gone forever.
I support going scorched earth on corporations that force any kind of vaccine on it’s employees. The day of reckoning can’t come soon enough for my own, lower than pond scum company! Also, what the hell did I get a down doot for!? The shills and trolls in this place are so extra! 🙄🤦🏼♀️😂
Same here. I was in the market for another winter coat for work, and I usually get the ones that have the fire hose material as they're durable as hell. But I won't buy from them now. I'll have to look at Duluth or some other work clothes company.
Agreed! Every other company out there needs to see what happens when Carhartt decided to go full commie... That company needs to burn to the fucking ground.
Poor us! It's such a hard decision blah blah blah. Free country, do what makes you comfortable. See how easy it is when you're not confusing the issue with kick backs!
Wearing danners now. I tried on a pair in 2008 and haven't warn any other boot since. And they last me on average about 4 years. And that's wearing them daily. Best boots ever! No better feeling than your foot wrapped in a cloud while kicking life's ass lol
I have been using Original SWAT for over a decade during the winter. Been thinking of Danner for summer boots. They seem to have better reviews than 5.11 but it's close.
I bought nothing but 511 pants for 10 years then their customer service sucked so badly the one time I had to contact them that I've been boycotting them for about 3 years now.
I liked their stuff, but it didn't last that long for how much they charge.
Just updated my Amazon Review of their 5 pocket pants: (Pedes, update your reviews on Amazon)
Update: Carthartt went woke and plowed ahead compulsory experimental mRNA injections for their 3,000 US based employees. The Carhartt internal email was dated Jan 2022. I will not purchase another Carhartt item. Ever. Go woke, go broke. Taking mine to Goodwill tomorrow.
I am all FOR businesses making their own decisions and NOT forced into making decisions by the government. Their decision was to mandate it for their employees. They ARE allowing religious and medical exceptions though which are pretty easy to get so anybody who thinks their jobs are at stake just need to submit one. I don’t agree with mandates but Carhartt is making their OWN decision and I respect that. They now will have to live with the consequences of their actions. My 2 cents.✝️🇺🇸🗽
The blowback isn't about respecting their decision.
It is about people's lives being torn asunder for no good reason.
What if you aren't religious and don't have a medical exemption? Is that some kind of solution, that employees should be forced to lie?
The vaccines are unsafe and completely ineffective. The mandate is utter bullshit, and unless they change their mind, many families are going to be thrown into a difficult position for no rational reason.
Carhartt can do this if they want. It is their choice. It is also my choice to never buy any more Carhartt clothing again. And I probably have at least $1000 of the product.
Yes that’s the beauty of America. We ALL have the right to make choices…even bad ones. I hate to see such a well respected company make in my opinion a bad choice. The free will of companies is what helps make America strong. Some will survive, some will not. They will suffer the consequences of their decisions. I hate to see a good company go down with the decisions of a few board members….
Not likely a board decision. Management decision. Boards don’t operate the companies; they hire and fire management based on how they operate the company, it’s called governance. And it’s a bad career decision to put wokeness ahead of profits. Companies should be apolitical if at all possible and risk being hated by all, instead of deliberately distancing itself from half of its customers. You say they’re exercising free will, and you applaud their ability to be able to do so. I’m not saying that’s wrong, I’m just saying managing out of fear is like a coach playing “not to lose”, instead of “to win”. It’s not a sound business decision and the board should care because these actions can do permanent harm to a company’s reputation and profitability, maybe even threaten it’s very survival. It’s also a bad business decision because history shows that companies that respect their employees are more productive than companies who treat their employees like children.
spez: if the BOD is woke, and the managers are just trying to keep their jobs, I can’t blame them, but those boards need to decide what the purpose of the organization is. If it’s profits, then coercing management to operate the company from a woke perspective is a dereliction of board duty, for which they should be removed from the board and may risk financial liability.
Totally agree they made a bad decision.
But in America we have a right to make bad decisions too. That’s all I’m saying. It’s too bad they did put wokeness and politics ahead of their base and employees. The company will suffer. Peace.
✝️🇺🇸🗽
Religious exemptions are the right of any citizen under the 1964 Civil Rights Act. You don't ask for an exemption, you notify the company you a invoking your right. Companies not respecting this may be grounds for suit.
I would love to see companies sued over this. Too many companies right now are "reviewing and assessing" religious exemptions, as if they have any right to deny this right. Most people don't have the time and money to hire a lawyer and fight this, so they either move on to a different job or cave and get the jab.
Speaking personally, I was interviewing and applying for jobs the second I got a notice that my ex-employer was going to institute a jab mandate. I didn't have time to play their games only to be denied and lose an income with a family to support.
A company has a right to manage AND mismanage which is what appears Carhartt has done… mismanaged. They will suffer the consequences of their decisions and may likely go down in flames. Bottom line it was their decision. Peace.
Carhartt has a right to not let you work there if they feel you are putting their other employees in danger. In fact, being in Michigan they can fire you for whatever reason they want.
I submitted a religious exemption over the summer. It got denied and I lost my job in September. I still haven’t found work in my area. So if a company has the power over you to put something in your body and they are the ones to decide what is redeeming for an exemption, how do you see that as respectable?
Being able/allowed to MAKE a decision, be it good OR bad s the American way. Like it or not. You can choose to still work for them OR NOT, you can man-up and quit blaming others for your troubles, YOU are in control NOT them. Don’t let them GET to you . Show them you don’t need them and be better than them. Respect that we ALL have a right to choices/ decisions MOT the actual decision. Theirs was not a wise one. I totally agree.
So if by your definition the American way is the right to choose, how are these companies living the American way by denying the employers the right to choose to get the jab or not? This isn’t being disgruntled about your hours or the pay and choosing to leave. This is employers forcing an experimental injection that has the potential to kill people. This goes against the Nuremberg code and is illegal, but since the government and courts are corrupt, it all stands. I “maned-up” by not getting the vax and now I’m fighting them legally. I chose the harder path for a better tomorrow. What you are saying that it’s ok to bend over or leave if you don’t like it. But guess what, after continuously leaving there will come a point where there is no where else to run. I guess that’s where we disagree. Something that is this grotesque has no place in a free country IMO.
Also, you are forgetting that for a lot of people contracts are involved with employment. Since I was fired before the end of my contract, they are coming after me for thousands of dollars to pay them back for schooling. So my “options” is to get forced to get the jab, quit and have to pay them back thousands of dollars, or get fired and they try to fight me legally for thousands of dollars. It’s been a fun 4 months.
Sorry to hear about your struggles. It’s definitely not right with what they decided to do. I’m in total agreement with you there, it’s wrong for sure. The only thing I’m saying is that they have a right to make BAD DECISIONS as well as good ones. They pissed a lot of people off and I’m one of them. They will pay for it dearly. Companies who make bad decisions will die. Peace to you and you family.
My God, you people do not understand free will, freedom of speech and choices. You have the right to say what you just said. I may not like it but it’s America. I can respect your ABILITY to make that decision. Simple. Again Carhartt made a bad choice in my opinion. You make statements without reason. That’s displaying your level of intelligence ….pretty low there Jr.
Never forget, never forgive. Even the ones that magically backtracked it. If they ever had one, they never deserve your business again. This is the line we take out the book of grudges for.
what fucking "tightrope"? The choice is clear: freedom or slavery. #fuckallthingswoke
Came here to say exactly this.
u/#ridetofreedom
Freedom is the only way
Exactly Patriot. We are winning. The people are not on their side.
I can help them lose as much money as they would like.
Cowards
the cut of your jib, I like
Carhartt reasoning is just so flimsy.
they claim the vast majority of their workforce is vaccinated.
if that was true, whats the point of the mandate?
they claim they are doing it to keep their workforce safe,
but if their workforce is already mostly vaccinated, WHO exactly are they trying to "protect", and WHAT exactly are they trying to protect them from
The theory is that they are protecting the unvaxxed, right? Because the vaxxed “won’t get hospitalized, will have mild symptoms”, so they must be protecting the people who are choosing to not get the jab. It’s insulting. It’s like saying, “obviously you’re too stupid to think for yourself, so we’re going to think for you”. But that’s theory. In reality, they are trying to protect themselves because they know the vax doesn’t work. They are also trying to cater to the woke mobs. If they had any business sense, they would just say “we support the vax, but more importantly we respect people’s rights to make healthcare decisions for themselves.” They’d get a hell of a lot more respect from everybody if they stood up for their employees rather than throwing their employees under the bus. Got to be one of the most bone-headed business decisions of all time, and yet the hits just keep on coming. Who’s making these decisions? Surely not captains of industry. Whoever is driving corporate wokeness at the expense of profits has no future in business. Business owners want managers who will do their job/make profits. If I’m a business owner and a manager I hire pulls this shit, they’ll be eating out of a trash can.
One of carhart board members is in the cdc
I aint buying them anymore.
I had $260 worth of stuff in my cart Tuesday night, glad I didn’t buy it.
We should all go full up carts and then abandon them!
KEK!!
Brilliant. Will you let us know if you hear back from them? Please? and thank you.
I sent them one email, blasted them, and gave them my contact information and ask them to call me.
Ok, clearly I’m behind the times and the story of this company must have dropped on a day I didn’t log on to GAW b/c I’ve never heard of this clothing line, let alone the uproar about their mandate. And obviously, I’m not missing much if they’re mandating the shot like all the other crap corporations. 🙄
Clothing line out of touch with their customer base.
They think they can float on acrylic hats for the fashionistas. It's hilarious. They pissed off every blue collar patriot and thats the bread and butter. It's pretty much a uniform in Michigan.
It’s been my uniform for years now. Sad! Lucky for me, they’re long lasting so I don’t have to buy clothes for a while haha, but when I do, it probably won’t be Carhartt
I too have some of their gear and I won't toss any of it, because I paid good money for my stuff.
Instead, I'll do what someone else suggested and remove all of the Carhartt logos. That makes a strong statement for those of us who still need to wear our jackets.
I guess since they’ve mandated the shot I don’t need to worry about familiarizing myself with their merchandise b/c I certainly won’t be supporting them. One less thing for me to spend money on. 🤷🏼♀️😂
Clearly. I laughed so hard when I read that they would mandate- they have no clue who their customers are. I’m glad it did not take long for Carhartt to feel the pain. Many (maybe even most) customers will be gone forever.
I support going scorched earth on corporations that force any kind of vaccine on it’s employees. The day of reckoning can’t come soon enough for my own, lower than pond scum company! Also, what the hell did I get a down doot for!? The shills and trolls in this place are so extra! 🙄🤦🏼♀️😂
sounds good, sign me up
Same here. I was in the market for another winter coat for work, and I usually get the ones that have the fire hose material as they're durable as hell. But I won't buy from them now. I'll have to look at Duluth or some other work clothes company.
The American carhart is still good but dont buy it
Even if they backtrack they can go fuck themselves, not my money bitches.
Agreed! Every other company out there needs to see what happens when Carhartt decided to go full commie... That company needs to burn to the fucking ground.
No backtracking. They made they choice.
I imagine Duluth Trading Post enjoyed Cathartt's brilliant marketing plan.
Not yet it seems... Textiles and clothing is tough gig right now with costs so high
They FAFO'd lol
NorthFace, Penzeys, Black Rifle Coffee, JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs, all the hospitals,. They can all fuck off.
I can’t say I’m surprised.... but I hadn’t heard. My husband will be devastated...
Boycott them all into bankruptcy!
Get woke, go broke!
ATT Owns direct tv cnn Verizon
Add Citibank - they still kept their vax mandate
Poor us! It's such a hard decision blah blah blah. Free country, do what makes you comfortable. See how easy it is when you're not confusing the issue with kick backs!
To bad too sad. I cant wait to see who steps up as their replacement; I love 5:11 gear.
Been considering 5.11 boots, but can't decide between them and Danner.
Danner's are worth the price. Excellent quality and most comfortable boots I've ever worn.
Wearing danners now. I tried on a pair in 2008 and haven't warn any other boot since. And they last me on average about 4 years. And that's wearing them daily. Best boots ever! No better feeling than your foot wrapped in a cloud while kicking life's ass lol
5.11 good, dunno Danner.
Danner
Danner is pretty good, their zip up boot are really cool.
I have been using Original SWAT for over a decade during the winter. Been thinking of Danner for summer boots. They seem to have better reviews than 5.11 but it's close.
I have those for riding my bike. They’ve saved my ankle twice when I dropped the bike. Good boots
I just discovered them this past month. Bought 3 pants and sneakers. I’m definitely going back
I bought nothing but 511 pants for 10 years then their customer service sucked so badly the one time I had to contact them that I've been boycotting them for about 3 years now. I liked their stuff, but it didn't last that long for how much they charge.
https://www.npr.org/2022/01/19/1074103265/carhartt-vaccine-mandate-covid
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!
I hope their customers boycott them into bankruptcy.
It is NOT Rocket Science
Especially after the SCOTUS struck the mandate down as a power grab
Fuckin NAZI’s deserve to go bankrupt
Just updated my Amazon Review of their 5 pocket pants: (Pedes, update your reviews on Amazon)
Update: Carthartt went woke and plowed ahead compulsory experimental mRNA injections for their 3,000 US based employees. The Carhartt internal email was dated Jan 2022. I will not purchase another Carhartt item. Ever. Go woke, go broke. Taking mine to Goodwill tomorrow.
It’s over for them. Nobody EVER buy their shit again. Even if they come back crying and begging.
Honestly, their shirts are not comfortable. Too stiff and itchy.
This is actually not hard. Just don't tell others what to do with their bodies and your business will do fine.
I am all FOR businesses making their own decisions and NOT forced into making decisions by the government. Their decision was to mandate it for their employees. They ARE allowing religious and medical exceptions though which are pretty easy to get so anybody who thinks their jobs are at stake just need to submit one. I don’t agree with mandates but Carhartt is making their OWN decision and I respect that. They now will have to live with the consequences of their actions. My 2 cents.✝️🇺🇸🗽
The blowback isn't about respecting their decision.
It is about people's lives being torn asunder for no good reason.
What if you aren't religious and don't have a medical exemption? Is that some kind of solution, that employees should be forced to lie?
The vaccines are unsafe and completely ineffective. The mandate is utter bullshit, and unless they change their mind, many families are going to be thrown into a difficult position for no rational reason.
Carhartt can do this if they want. It is their choice. It is also my choice to never buy any more Carhartt clothing again. And I probably have at least $1000 of the product.
Yes that’s the beauty of America. We ALL have the right to make choices…even bad ones. I hate to see such a well respected company make in my opinion a bad choice. The free will of companies is what helps make America strong. Some will survive, some will not. They will suffer the consequences of their decisions. I hate to see a good company go down with the decisions of a few board members….
Not likely a board decision. Management decision. Boards don’t operate the companies; they hire and fire management based on how they operate the company, it’s called governance. And it’s a bad career decision to put wokeness ahead of profits. Companies should be apolitical if at all possible and risk being hated by all, instead of deliberately distancing itself from half of its customers. You say they’re exercising free will, and you applaud their ability to be able to do so. I’m not saying that’s wrong, I’m just saying managing out of fear is like a coach playing “not to lose”, instead of “to win”. It’s not a sound business decision and the board should care because these actions can do permanent harm to a company’s reputation and profitability, maybe even threaten it’s very survival. It’s also a bad business decision because history shows that companies that respect their employees are more productive than companies who treat their employees like children.
spez: if the BOD is woke, and the managers are just trying to keep their jobs, I can’t blame them, but those boards need to decide what the purpose of the organization is. If it’s profits, then coercing management to operate the company from a woke perspective is a dereliction of board duty, for which they should be removed from the board and may risk financial liability.
Totally agree they made a bad decision. But in America we have a right to make bad decisions too. That’s all I’m saying. It’s too bad they did put wokeness and politics ahead of their base and employees. The company will suffer. Peace. ✝️🇺🇸🗽
I'm having a hard time accepting the frame of the debate,
that being, that the employee even has to "opt-out" of any elective medical procedure.
and that the employer, at their sole discretion, is able to choose who is allowed "exemptions" and who is not.
Well said. ‘Religious exemption”. I need some corporate hack to decide if the First Amendment applies to me or not? I don’t think so.
Religious exemptions are the right of any citizen under the 1964 Civil Rights Act. You don't ask for an exemption, you notify the company you a invoking your right. Companies not respecting this may be grounds for suit.
not a lawyer, not legal advice.
I would love to see companies sued over this. Too many companies right now are "reviewing and assessing" religious exemptions, as if they have any right to deny this right. Most people don't have the time and money to hire a lawyer and fight this, so they either move on to a different job or cave and get the jab.
Speaking personally, I was interviewing and applying for jobs the second I got a notice that my ex-employer was going to institute a jab mandate. I didn't have time to play their games only to be denied and lose an income with a family to support.
It's a bit different when you tread on someone's private rights. This is a permanent procedure and they have no right to force it.
A company has a right to manage AND mismanage which is what appears Carhartt has done… mismanaged. They will suffer the consequences of their decisions and may likely go down in flames. Bottom line it was their decision. Peace.
It’s like you’re saying, “what the fuck? Socialism, really?”
Nobody has a right to work for Carhartt.
Carhartt has a right to not let you work there if they feel you are putting their other employees in danger. In fact, being in Michigan they can fire you for whatever reason they want.
See how that works.
So can I fire employees for not having sex with me?
There are some limits as to what an employer can ask an employee to do.
They cant fire you for any reason if your union and many of the us carhart employees wisely unionized.
Can they fire someone because of how they look?
As others have said, there are things that are off limits.
These are one of them, and don't cuck out on it.
I submitted a religious exemption over the summer. It got denied and I lost my job in September. I still haven’t found work in my area. So if a company has the power over you to put something in your body and they are the ones to decide what is redeeming for an exemption, how do you see that as respectable?
Being able/allowed to MAKE a decision, be it good OR bad s the American way. Like it or not. You can choose to still work for them OR NOT, you can man-up and quit blaming others for your troubles, YOU are in control NOT them. Don’t let them GET to you . Show them you don’t need them and be better than them. Respect that we ALL have a right to choices/ decisions MOT the actual decision. Theirs was not a wise one. I totally agree.
So if by your definition the American way is the right to choose, how are these companies living the American way by denying the employers the right to choose to get the jab or not? This isn’t being disgruntled about your hours or the pay and choosing to leave. This is employers forcing an experimental injection that has the potential to kill people. This goes against the Nuremberg code and is illegal, but since the government and courts are corrupt, it all stands. I “maned-up” by not getting the vax and now I’m fighting them legally. I chose the harder path for a better tomorrow. What you are saying that it’s ok to bend over or leave if you don’t like it. But guess what, after continuously leaving there will come a point where there is no where else to run. I guess that’s where we disagree. Something that is this grotesque has no place in a free country IMO.
Also, you are forgetting that for a lot of people contracts are involved with employment. Since I was fired before the end of my contract, they are coming after me for thousands of dollars to pay them back for schooling. So my “options” is to get forced to get the jab, quit and have to pay them back thousands of dollars, or get fired and they try to fight me legally for thousands of dollars. It’s been a fun 4 months.
Sorry to hear about your struggles. It’s definitely not right with what they decided to do. I’m in total agreement with you there, it’s wrong for sure. The only thing I’m saying is that they have a right to make BAD DECISIONS as well as good ones. They pissed a lot of people off and I’m one of them. They will pay for it dearly. Companies who make bad decisions will die. Peace to you and you family.
Thank you. Peace and blessings to you and yours as well!
You and your two cents can fuck right off
My God, you people do not understand free will, freedom of speech and choices. You have the right to say what you just said. I may not like it but it’s America. I can respect your ABILITY to make that decision. Simple. Again Carhartt made a bad choice in my opinion. You make statements without reason. That’s displaying your level of intelligence ….pretty low there Jr.
Blue collar brand goes full woke… the absolute epitome of ‘go woke go broke’
All the brass should be fired!!
MSM - Stop Conservatives from realizing they have boycott power!
Never forget, never forgive. Even the ones that magically backtracked it. If they ever had one, they never deserve your business again. This is the line we take out the book of grudges for.
Carhartt wanted it this way.
It's workwear. Probably why you dont see it in California.
oof lol
No tightrope. They are walking on the well defined and broad path of fascism.
I’ve highly, highly considered giving them some business but will certainly not now.
They’re probably going to lose a ton of money especially considering there client base of conservative Americans.
Go broke.
And the thing is- patriots never forget. It’s not like Carhartt will see a temporary drop in sales, it will be permanent
I now feel stupid for having a bunch of their products.
Any good alternatives to Carhartt besides Kühl? I'm sure Kühl is good and all but its a little expensive
Link please? I’d love to read the article
https://www.npr.org/2022/01/19/1074103265/carhartt-vaccine-mandate-covid
we are the storm
Slow Joe's so low that he had to put out a commercial that blows. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRbpNEqI6Dc
I was about to buy some $99 pants from them then this happened and I sent then an email explaining why I will no longer be a customer instead.
It's not a tightrope. It's a noose.
China made them do it
All I hear when I read your garbage Jagerman is blah, blah, blah, blah...