Dad has Covid now, not doing well. Please help me pray for him. Praying is not something I do often or well but my dad is my favorite human being and I need him to be okay. We’re at the hospital now and they have treated us with disgust and hate since we got here but he needs oxygen so I had to tolerate it. Please pray, thank you all. I know this place is a safe place for those of us who are tired of weathering the world.
Update: Still here, he has tested negative!! Still being treated for pneumonia and sepsis which is discouraging but I’m able to be here with him to help him and advocate for him. Thank you all for the continued prayers and kind words!! I’m alone here but your words are helping me through.
No REMDESIVIR, no decadron, no ventilator. That’s what they used and my husband died.
If he is coughing and his lungs are full of phlegm, make sure they sit him up so he can expel what's inside. Laying down makes matters worse.
Sending prayers now.
There was a video showing a prone position on one's with elbows on mattress hand folded head on hands to best expell the sticky muccus. I'd leave the hospital and get tonic water n call Americas frontline doctors Antihistamines. They start w the bad meds and ventilators it's the slippery slope. God bless and save.
Here’s a good video on how to cough if you have covid to help bring up mucous https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bBkGDIeQwXo
My two daughters’ father in law is finally recovering from covid he came down with just after Christmas from a month of seriously crappy care in the hospital. They wouldn’t allow his wife or kids in until the day they called his wife and said come in he’s gonna die. We got lots of people praying for him. When visiting hours were over, she refused to leave and he got better. (The loneliness is what he said put him in despair and gave him the feeling of wanting to give up) he has alot of lung damage ARV and myocarditis and had to be put on blood thinners because if clots coming out his nose. He fought Boeing to remain unvaccinated and had just won that battle before getting sick. Saw him today and he is steadily improving.
He needs to sleep on his stomach. It moves the center of gravity in your lungs and allows for easier breathing as the phlegm shifts. This 100% saved my life when I was in the ICU with Covid.
The problem is once they test covid + they kick the family out of the hospital. They can accept no witnesses for their medical malfeasance.
GITMO here they go!!
Wait, seriously?! I don’t think that’s he case everywhere.
We just had my mom at the hospital. She tested positive. They immediately took her to their covid floor and told us to leave and that we could not see her and that an Infectious Disease Doctor was on his way to determine if she "needed" remdesivir. They were on the protocol to murder her and did not want us as advocates or witnesses.
The three days prior to her O2 crashing though I had given her full doses of ivermectin plus twice daily quercetin, 10k D, 3g C, 50mg zinc, black seed oil and NAC. As soon as we got to emergency I made a fuss about oxygen and steroid treatments which took them a bit to produce but they eventually did.
Two hours after they made us leave my niece who works on a different floor at that hospital called and said her O2 was back up to 96 and they had cancelled the ID Doc. They wouldnt let me niece in to see her either and she works there.
Moms been home 2 days now and is recovering nicely. I still have her on the quercetin, d, c, zinc, black seed oil and NAC but only once per day. Since shes been twice vaxxed I told her she needs to do that the rest of her life. Shes 83 now. She wont do the boosters.
Good grief! What a troubling scare. Your mom is lucky to have you. I’m happy to hear she is ok and out of that hospital.
Little did they know I probably had covid too. When my dad made the decision to take her I took 3 excedrin and 3 ibuprofen to make sure I wouldnt have a temp when we got there. Its the only time through this whole thing Ive worn a mask because I knew I had it too (untested though). But I also knew my dad needed me because hes old school and while a Trump guy he still trusts the docs to do what is right. The only thing he wouldnt let them do is a vent, he knew nothing of remdesivir and cut me off when I tried to explain. He was scared.
Plus Ive owned my own business for 35 years and Im used to being crusty with the help lol. I cant say I wasnt a complete dick that embarrassed my dad. But it got the job done.
Wow I am happy to hear that she is doing better. Hospitals are one of the scariest places to be right now.
When there is a positive covid test, the hospital covid protocols automatically kick in - no exceptions. At that point, all control is lost by the patient and the family. Even a patient's physician has no say in treatment - especially if it is a closed critical care hospital. The hospitalist or intensivist is in charge and runs the show. They work for the hospital - not the patient. Dr Ardis has information on how to avoid medical kidnapping. It is real and needs to be taken seriously. Hospitals are being motivated by big money to treat covid patients - all to the neglect of other patients that need care.
The hospitals are private so they don’t work with other physicians. Like you have a private doctor, he works on his own or for a corporation. Unless that is the same place of business the hospital has no way of working with the family GP.
They’d have to hire the family GP for him or her to come into a different place of business to write orders. I’m just clarifying.
If you worked for Verizon selling phones, but your customer had a problem and went to T mobile to have a phone fixed, they can’t really cross work with each other. Hospitals hire their own doctors and sign contracts for surgeons to place their patients after surgery, in that situation you might have an outside doctor along with a hospitalist, but they do have a business contract with the surgeon.
I hope that is helpful as to why outside physicians can’t work in any hospital their patients decide to contract with. Insurances usually help these things slide along forming groups of professionals to work together.
You are correct about the more corporate structure of medical care today and how it has compartmentalized care to the extreme. However, there are still PCPs in private practice, as well as other physicians, that still have privileges for certain hospitals and in certain cases are still the attending physician - although they are becoming fewer in number over time. PCPs are often the last line of defense in fighting for their patients. I have personally been involved in battles with hospitals over patient care. It has really come to a head with covid. Some providers have had their privileges revoked because they tried to intervene and buck the hospital when trying to advocate for their hospitalized patients.
Over time the inpatient responsibilities have been kicked to the hospitalist rather than the patient's personal MD. There is good and bad with this system. In the case with critical care, the intensivist basically has complete control over what happens with a patient from the time the patient enters the ER. The last link of advocacy for the patient, which is their own personal provider, has being dismantled. The hospitalist and the intensivist work for the hospital. Because there is no patient advocacy, we now find ourselves in a crisis. Just talked to someone today who's friend escaped from a hospital after he had been vented. One of the staff must have missed giving him his dose of meds and he woke up. This is not the first time I have heard of such cases. I prefer to keep people out of the hospital and so far so good.
The hospital landscape has changed and patients need to understand they are not dealing with the old system any longer. That system quietly went away when they were not watching. Unfortunately for many, they had to come to this realization when a loved one became hospitalized with covid, or they were hospitalized for some other reason and then tested positive, and now they are living the nightmare of medical kidnapping. It is sad and frightening.
Also yes patients have long since signed contracts giving permission for a hospital to treat a patient. At that point the patient is agreeing to hire the hospital for care. Patients have rights, many of them that are outlined in the contract they agree to.
It’s at that point, when reading the contract, that the patient needs to let the hospital know what they are desiring. It’s like any business contract, coming in after the contract is signed, well, the hospital usually will say these terms were not agreed upon but you can always refuse any treatment or medication and change hospitals as long as you made sure it was agreed upon and you read the terms.
This might help people when they decide to hire a hospital. It’s a big thing especially since it’s your health. It’s probably a good idea to look up the hospital like you would any place of business and call beforehand to see what kind of services they offer. You can find out how well other customers rated that hospital and also ask your doctor to see if it’s a place aligned with your values or methods of treatment.
Agreed. It is a contract that most people do not bother to read when they sign those digital admission forms. Even if they give you a hard copy to read, there is no way to guarantee that your digital signature is being put to the form you think you are signing. Also, they have been changing those contracts slowly over time - especially since the passage of the ACA. Permissions are being granted in ways patients do not understand. Sadly, because of covid, patient rights have been suspended under CMS/Medicare/Medicaid. Patients need to be aware that the ground rules in the hospitals has changed - especially critical care. That is the part many are not aware of. This takeover of critical care in hospitals is frightening. Care is being dictated by AI algorithms and there is no room for any deviation. Many in the hospitals do not know where the orders are coming from other than from somewhere high up. The rank and file either follow orders or get packing. My suggestion is for people to have medical power of attorney forms filled out and signed. This has become an unfortunate reality in today's medical hospital landscape until something derails this train wreck. People are being murdered.
That's when you take them home for hospice. That will naturally include oxygen.
This. NAC is vital.
Just got through helping a friend that unfortunately found out the hard way that he needed to prepare. He contacted me about day 5 of the coof when he couldn't breath. So, I brought the kit to him with all the vital necessities, including NAC. Hit him with a pretty good dose of Ivermectin along with massive doses of the other stuff. Damn, I haven't been that nervous in awhile. I knew if he managed to make it through the night he was going to be okay. He wasn't turning blue yet, but he was on the verge. I think if I hadn't got him on the meds and supplements when I did, he would have been another statistic. His O2 sats were dropping like a rock. He could barely hold his head up. His panic didn't help either.
He was on the verge of calling the EMTs when he decided to call me instead. At least he remembered what I told him about going to the hospital and it stopped him. I found out today that he has a friend that just escaped from the hospital after being vented. He was lucky he came to before they managed to hit him with more drugs. This stuff is brutal.
And get some Ivermectin into him...praying now! 🙏
And ZINC with the Ivermectin
Absolutely fren!
Where can you get NAC?
https://www.swansonvitamins.com/q?kw=NAC
I got mine from bulksupplements.com I think.
iherb.com
Ebay
Decadron aka dexamethasone is great to use, it’s an anti inflammatory. The doses they use for COVID are very low, I regularly give 10mg during a surgical case.
I also gave it regularly, IV decadron, also to thousands of patients over the years. It was part of my routine for removing impacted wisdom teeth. Retired OMS, but have great memories of a career I loved.
I am sorry for your loss 💔
I was on this stuff and I told the nurse I’m like oh the stuff that messes up your kidneys, she tells me I never heard of that. Lo and behold my liver and kidney enzymes where really high. Doctor took me off of it due to that. Month later I’m back to being healthy and that, of course no greasy fatty foods and booze for said month, but bloodwork said I’m all good. I’m also in my 30s. I hope your father makes it prayers… btw I was two steps under a vent with high intensity oxygen where it’s blasted in your nose . Next step is the c pap mask, then the vent
I am so very sorry for your loss, raubie29. You are in my prayers.
Lord please be with this family and help them to find the words to say to the Doctors! Thank you
AMEN
Lord please guide them all to health and healing, in your name I ask it. Thank you Amen
Amen.
Dear Precious Heavenly Father,
In your Holy Word you tell us, that blessed be God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies, and the God of all comfort; Who comforteth us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort them which are in any trouble, by the comfort wherewith we ourselves are comforted of God.
We look to you now for that comfort oh Lord, let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.
Please shelter this family in your loving arms as we pray for this family's farther heal me, O LORD, and I shall be healed; save me, and I shall be saved: for thou art my praise.
We stand on these promises that are in your Holy Word and we pray that your will be done...
In your son Jesus' glorious name,
Amen
Amen 🙏🏼
Amen!
Amen. 🙏
Amen...
Agreeing with you. In Jesus’ Name, Amen
“Truly I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall have been loosed in heaven. “Again I say to you, that if two of you agree on earth about anything that they may ask, it shall be done for them by My Father who is in heaven. For where two or three have gathered together in My name, I am there in their midst.”” Matthew 18:18-20
Amen
Added to my daily prayers. Bless you and your family
Praying for your dad now! Please keep us posted.
Please, dear God, revive Mooseuamarch’s dad’s health. Please heal him and release him from the hospital, in Jesus Christ’s glorious name.
AMEN! I agree amen
Amen
If you can get him oxygen at home through hospice care do that. The hospital protocol is Remdesivir --> ventilator --> body bag. Then they tell you, "we need everything we could". Do not go along with their protocol. Smuggle Ivermectin in to him and try to get him out of the hospital ASAP.
I don't know his situation, but here's some ideas:
In the past, people could leave the hospital as long as they signed: Leaving Against Medical Advice Form.
May God Bless and Protect your father and your family.
Do not use Albuterol, use Budesonide as it has a steroid in it, Dr. Bartletts recommendation. Albuterol only opens the airways but does not treat the inflammation.
https://rumble.com/vttkpd-dr.-mobeen-syed-interviews-dr.-richard-bartlett-on-nebulized-steroids-budes.html
From my personal experience with respiratory illnesses, it helps. Albuterol to keep the airways open and Steroids to address the inflammation.
I would encourage all reading this to research FGHP - food grade hydrogen peroxide - you can nebulize that get oxygen into yourself cheap cheap cheap. I can’t believe how fortunate I was to learn about this.
God bless this man I hope and pray your daddy is healed by the hand of our precious Lord Jesus
I have actually had better luck with plain old Amoxicillin for secondary bacterial infection instead of azithromycin - given there isn't an allergy to Pen. It just doesn't seem like the azithromycin is cutting it sometimes.
The albuterol is more for bronchial spasm and is not going to work well for the inflammation kick of the coof that really needs a steroid. Especially after the virus has run its course. When it gets past day 8 it is no longer a viral infection, but a secondary hypersensitivity immune reaction. Budesonide in a nebulizer has been a life saver for many. I believe you can order budesonide from the same pharmacies that carry HCQ and Ivermectin. You already have the nebulizer so you would be in business. Take care Bones.
Yes, PCN is good. I think of Zithromax because my entire family is allergic to PCN so that's what we always take. Good point. 😊
The patient can get discharged via "AMA" (Against Medical Advice).
If they have a health proxy (Legal document), the designated individual can legally request AMA discharge.
When you sign a contract it usually tells you how the hospital manages this. Since the doctors have laws they work under that are state and federal laws about letting a patient who is vitally sick put his health at risk, they make sure you know about that in the contract they sign.
So if you are doing fine, sure you can leave. But if you are not stable with vital signs or oxygen levels they will not discharge you with the blessing, because they can be sued.
Patients come back and say “why did you let me do that? I wasn’t in my right thinking. Here are laws stating you broke the law by letting me leave in that state”
Then they pay a lot of money and are censured by the medical board.
This is the system how it is now.
So once you get them involved, and they could be punished, they can try to keep you. For instance they won’t write orders for you to leave so another place, unless that place is respectable and shows they can care for the patient, can take over care. The patient can leave AMA as long as they can get up and leave the hospital.
So no, they don’t force you, they just don’t help you once you are incapacitated because the contract signed over custodial care of you.
Imagine a patient who was on the edge of dying, in that state trying to leave. You’d be mad and sue if that was your loved one. So they do everything that’s outlined by the laws in that state and country to make sure a vulnerable person isn’t harming themselves. If the family wasn’t educated enough to know it was a danger etc.
You’re best not to go and sign a contract with them, if you are planning on leaving.
They can refuse to accept you as a patient again in the future under non-emergency conditions, or at least that's my understanding.
Correct. They are a private business and individuals who chose to barter services for a fee. They can choose to not do business with you, but state and federal laws force them to treat you if you are in danger.
Big government controls a lot of what they can do.
Lord please send some one that can help, and keep this family close.
Prayers for your dad, you, and everyone who loves and cares about you and your dad. Please don't let him stay in the hospital, if you can. Be strong and be his advocate. Please keep us posted. Hugs to you, fren!
Precious Father, We pray for the healing and comfort of this loving father from his son. Touch him Lord and restore the breath in his lungs. Breath your spirit into him and heal all the ailments this disease brings. It is your will Lord as your ways are not ours. We trust you Lord to guide the minds of these doctors and nurses who we believe will give him the best care. We pray Lord for your grace and mercy in this matter as we keep the faith of receiving this request. And we thank you and bless you in all things given from you. In Jesus precious name we pray. Amen.
Amen
Amen.
Agreeing with you. Amen
May the healing hand of our Lord and Saviour hold your father safe from harm....He hears our prayers for him in his time if need and may your family find comfort knowing that the many voices God hears from his faithful beseech Him to send healing. In God's name I, and others pray..
Blessings for your dad fren....
Prayers fren. Just?stay there. Do not leave for long periods. Be his advocate #1. No remdesivir. No vent.
Prayers sent for you and your father
May God Bless you and your father at this troubling time. Try to stay calm but make sure to stand up for your Dad. If you don't think something is right, trust that instinct. Having worked in a hospital for years I observed many families. The ones that do best are the ones that are not afraid to ask questions, or stand up against the administration. Doctors and nurses are humans. They make mistakes. Be your fathers advocate. You are most likely well informed from hanging out here. Stay strong and God Bless
find monoclonal antibodies. Drive to FL if you have to. Contact Sean Hannity. Look on his website. I’m serious. He is trying desperately to help get people monoclonal antibodies. He’s been talking about not wanting anyone else to die.
Not that I am not a huge Sean fan anymore but I was listening last week and he is begging people to call him if someone they know is in distress.
Praying for all of you. If they want to put him on a vent, get him out of there!
Right just oxygen! Prayers for your family tonight. And be there to be the advocate for him.
Praying for your dad and for you too, Mooseuamarch.
Sending Prayers. Don't worry!
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Prayers for sure
Sending love and prayers!🙏🏻❤️
Prayers said, in the name of Jesus Christ amen.
Prayers Up!
Prayers Fren.
Praying for healing for your dad
Prayers inc.
High dose steroids are needed for low O2 according to the roundtable Sen. Johnson hosted.
You are in my thoughts and prayers, Moose. Remember, there’s nothing to fear when we have placed the situation in God’s hands. May He bless you with His strength.
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https://prayingmedic.com/2022/01/11/healing-prayer-for-covid-vaccine-injury-respiratory-and-heart-disease/
Did you try giving your dad some of the ivermectin you got for yourself?
https://greatawakening.win/p/141YIiPFDO/how-long-for-you-to-recover-when/
How long for you to recover when taking Ivermectin? posted 3 days ago by Mooseuamarch +34 / -0 Caught Covid this week and it’s been rough. I’ve been taking ivermectin and I’m not having any breathing issues but it has still taken it’s toll on me. I keep hoping it’s the last day. How long did Covid last for those of you who took ivermectin?
Or get some for your dad when you asked about it a month ago?
https://greatawakening.win/p/140vaMgkmH/where-can-i-get-ivermectin/
Sorry for sounding so harsh, but this thread smells a lot like b.s. If I'm wrong then I apologize, and hope your dad's ok.
I took ivermectin and fortunately am young and healthy and I am doing better, still not 100%. My dad on the other hand is diabetic and didn’t tell me he was sick when it started. As soon as I found out, I took him my ivermectin and begged him to take it. Sometimes it’s hard to force our parents to listen to us but I did my best. What he did or didn’t do when I wasn’t around I can’t answer for but I tried like hell.
I understand my dad died from complications due to diabetes 15 years ago you can't force them to comply but diabetes doesn't usually cause breathing problems. My dad's issues were compounded by that. Ivermectin wouldn't have hurt him sad that he wouldn't listen.
My husband is diabetic, 2 heart attacks, 1 bypass, etc. He was fine with ivermectin , zinc, vit c, super high dose d3, pepcid. Basically, FLCCC i Mask Protocol.
Dear Father most high in Heaven, please give our fren u/Mooseuamarch ‘s Father the healing Grace of your light? We’ve all had enough needless murdering by those liars claiming to be healers. We know now that only you can truly heal. Our gratitude knows no bounds Father. In Yeshua’s name we pray. 🙏 Amen
Agreeing with you for healing. Amen
You should never go to the hospital with covid they are killing people there with bad drug protocal . Get him out go to his doctor they can prescribe an inhaler which will help him breath.
HOSPITALS BEING PAID ENORMOUS SUMS FOR COVID
CARES ACT =Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security Act
I can't offer much except what I just went through. Bilateral pneumonia and then got covid. ER turned me away with a BP of 101/40 and O2 sat of 86 exactly 8 days ago. Told me my doctors were "rock stars and doing a fantastic job."
Located a retired doctor with active license who is disenfranchised with corporate medical care. Started me on ivermectin, HCQ, Quercetin, Levaquin, zinc, dexamethasone, and pantoprazole, along with respiratory nebulizer treatments of Glutothione. She said I was 72 hours away from ICU and ventilator. She also did IV infusions of Vitamin C, D, and other stuff. 48 hours later I was breathing much better and within 96 hours I was out of the weeds. Do what it takes to get proper treatment, and don't accept what the hospitals tell you. There are ways to get the proper treatment, and if the hospital won't do it, find someone who will.
You and your family are in my prayers, fren. Stay strong and fight.
Please immediately call this nurse advocate. Renee Edwards 541-624-2040.
She can talk you through this, and her team can prescribe what your dad needs. After you pick up the prescription, it is up to you how you get the meds to your dad. I know families (quite a few) who just taped the Ivermectin and HCQ into some clothes you send in (as a change of clothes for their loved one). They call to share where to find it. They are just following the doctor's orders of an outside doctor...without telling the hospital doctor. This is survival.
Better yet, many people are getting set up at home with oxygen. There are services who can move him. No hospital has the legal right to hold him.
If it is the previous covid variants, the Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine will likely work, as long as he refuses Remesdevir, Decadron, and the ventilator. But, he has to also be getting zinc, and probably a steroid and antibiotic. Usually hospitals take care of that part. You will need a full list of what he is getting to give to your outside doctor.
But verbally refusing Remesdevir isnt as good as having a notary come to the room to notarize his Medical Directive stating that refuses Remesdevir, Decadron, the ventilator, and any vaccines. At least have your dad check every med they give him, because they will still try to give him Remesdevir regardless of his verbal wishes.
If he has Omicron, the protocol that works is much different. My doctor put us on Zyrtec with Pepcid AC. (The combination works because Omicron presents as a severe allergic attack and inflammation.) Also, we took Ivermectin, and an antibiotic called Doxycycline. We also did sinus rinses and took probiotics. Some of us got diarrhea with the Omicron. Some of us got strep throat and ear infections. The antibiotics helped right away.
My dad almost died of Omicron, we thought, but then found out it was his heart medicine (Lisinopril) that was killing him. My mom luckily took him off of it and gave him the Omicron protocol. The next week a new heart doctor told him to never take Lisinopril. Now he feels great.
I will pray for you. Fight hard. These outside doctors have saved many lives of hospitalized patients. Instead of fighting with lawyers, the patients just work with an outside doctor without telling the hospital. Sometimes Ivermectin works in 12-48 hours.
I used to take Lisinopril for high blood pressure. This is the first I’ve heard it called a heart medicine
True...short version of saying a med given to him by a heart doctor.
So, that med doesn’t bother you? It must be an individual thing.
My mom got on an osteoporosis drug that really harmed her. She mostly recovered when she quit taking it.
We just have to do our own research, consult different kinds of medical professionals, and pay attention to how we respond to it.
Best wishes to you! Thanks 😃
Amen
Demand steroid treatments.
I feel your pain. My mom just got out of the hospital 2 days ago. Steroids and oxygen got her O2 back up to 96.