I belong to a based family, but the brainwashing that Putin is Hitler reincarnated, is rampant. Because I offer an alternative reason as to why this is happening, I am now labeled a Putin lover. I can't even... Lord, give me strength to keep cool and not explode on those that I love.
I just don't understand how those who know the media has lied to us repeatedly for years now - especially the past five, suddenly believe they're telling the truth? I have pointed out that there is propaganda on both sides and that those loudest about Ukraine are the most corrupt in our country, but it falls on deaf ears. "Putin is going to start WWIII, the US needs to take him out now!" is the subject the latest family group text. I have chosen to not engage this time. Is Putin truly a bad guy? For years all we have heard is Russia bad, Putin bad, and the fact that it comes from the Corporate media alone gives me pause. While I do not know the whole story, I know in my gut that the main narrative is nothing but a ball of lies. Proving this, however, is only as successful as the willingness of others to consider a different reality. My hope is that he (and Trump) are truly taking out the trash and all of this comes to light very soon.
The sheer fact that: Obama, Hilary, Soros, Maria Abromovic and other faggots are openly supporting Ukraine should tell you and especially your family everything you need to know. Goodluck fren!
Exactly - that is all the proof I needed!
The problem (for you) is they've subconsciously accepted a transaction must occur so things will return to normal. Each new "crisis" is seen as the barrier to that happening. This makes people accepting of increasingly horrifying proposals. 9/11 got us The Patriot Act so we could return to normal. The Boston Bombing got us thinking about near martial law lockdowns as acceptable so we can return to normal. Covid-19, surrender more rights, tell on others or lock them out of commerce to force medical compliance, so we can return to normal. Stop Putin! so we can return to normal. If you start looking you'll see hundreds of examples large & small in-between those examples, the pattern is there. Once you see it you cannot un-see it.
I don't know how to get you over that hump but it will help if you have an ally. Work on one person only, the one that seems most inclined. Get that redpill swallowed. Both of you will be better able to get the next one and the next. Don't give up and don't get frustrated. We were all led into the matrix slowly and over a lifetime from pre-K through college then every single "news" outlet & pop culture reinforced it. But where it was once hard to find single obvious examples, now they are everywhere.
You are right. I believe when they (Kazarian mafia) has a new event (destruction done by them), our rights are more restrained. Btw you forgot the gun control act signed by President Trump ( what was it?) I tried to search for the name but couldn’t find it. Thank you and God bless for your contribution.
I believe that’s the only gun law 45 was involved with? Could be wrong but…
Every single solitary incursion on 2A must be removed; all are null and void anyway.
Can’t agree enough Patriot!!
No, the one that President Trump signed for the problem we had in one of those schools in Florida about checking upon people with mental issues.
Problem, reaction, solution
I agree. When all NEWS is saying the same thing then I know the narrative is war. What wakes people up? War and nuclear war. This is for the norms.
I read that the WEF dumped him, which I thought was a very good thing.
You know how many conservatives got quadruple vaxxed? The awakening has been a complete and total failure to anyone who doesn't access alt news sites. And the number people who do is so shockingly low compared to the number of full blown autopilot mouth breathing soulless roaches that infest this planet. They will never wake up.
You are 100% right. The awakening is the people on this board. That's it it seems.
This!!! It was the nail in the coffin for me.
Exactly!
It took 2 years for the truth about the vaccines, ivermectin, hdq, and COVID19 to come out. It took 4 years for the Russian hoax to come to light and still today some on the left still believe the lies. I fear that what is really going on in Ukraine is going to take just as long. They own the media. It's hard to fight propaganda.
I fear you're right. If this keeps up and the media remains in their hands, things will never change because something new will always come along. Who is going to hold them accountable? How do we fix this?
TRUTH social
Shit rollout. No different thank FRANKspeech.
Hard to see it, but the COVID fraud is being exposed in less than 1/2 the time it took to expose RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA! I think the time between lie and exposed lie will continue to decrease, until the lie falls flat and the MSM completely goes "poof" - up in smoke.
For all the blather about Trump being impulsive, he is the most plodding person on the planet.
I just showed my relative a 6 minute video of a Ukrainian guy explaining the history of violent US involvement in other countries and the Ukraine and how this "war" is really Ukrainian puppet gov't vs. Ukrainian citizens. She watched it and said "Wow, that's totally different from what I heard." I said that's because the MSM lies constantly. I was happy she was willing to listen to him for those 6 minutes, but then she went right back to consume her daily hours of MSM.
They rely on it like a drug! Like a comfort they can't do without.
was it this one?
Yes.
mirror
https://files.catbox.moe/hkab0h.mp4
Thats what happens to the people around me. They listen to me and even ask good questions for an hour. At the end of the hour, "Well I'm just really afraid Putin is going to destroy us all because he's a loose cannon. I don't understand why he's doing this."
Okay, why do I talk to you for an hour showing you evidence of everything and explaining it then? I don't ever believe people on their face, but Putin said he was doing a special operation for specific targets. The media says it's a "full scale invasion." Look at the evidence and the live feed cameras and tell me which one looks true.
Yep. This is the point I made to my husband and for some reason, resulted in him getting angry with me because he just couldn't believe that the media was lying. He is stuck on the "Putin is power hungry" fact.
Mine too. Just can't seem to accept that Putin might be doing something good for us all.
Lmao it's so comforting to hear I'm not the only one observing these outlandish displays of cognitive dissonance. It truly does seem like we've all been intentionally spread apart from one another, almost by design.
100% my situations too fren
You got that right. Fox News is the Bastian of Truth for these people. When I say don't trust that network, I am met with a glazed over -WTF-look.
Well said. I love them all and only wish for them to wake up! The media is enemy #1 and somehow, We the Peeps need to destroy their stronghold. Optimistically, I believe Truth Social may be the crack in the dam.
That's called the "fluoride stare".
No kidding!
Brilliant comment
Totally agree. It’s gotten to the point where I’m using the block feature on certain anons who post nothing but fear porn and MSM fake bullshit. Try it. It helps. Remember, WE (USA) are the ones who have secret bioweapon labs all over the world…including next door to Russia. What do they expect Putin to do?
Show them the map where the biolabs are located, then show them the map of the places Putin has bombed.
That is quite convincing and does get the synapses firing.
it's the typical liberal lunacy, Trump was Hitler incarnate too.
These people are INVESTED in the lies. they hold stock in them. They have based their lives, spirituality, friendships, etc. on them... When these people have a cognitive dissonance they will just blindly clutch onto those lies they have as a foundation of their own personality.
The issue isn't causing a dissonance so they can see the truth, it's causing ENOUGH of them that they cannot hold onto the lies anymore. Some people are so thoroughly rooted in the lies that they might not even be able to cope.
with every " event " more people shake loose, i dunno when enough will be enough or what the final straw will be but things are coming more frequently now so it feels promising.
just my opinions.
This is a good point. Tell your families that all the MSM said that Trump was Hitler. If they didn't believe that, why do they suddenly think the media are in the truth game about Putin?
This is gold. 😊
I do love Putin. I would never take that as an insult. Kek.
You have successfully traded your Pandemic Card for your War Card
The same people who pigged out on covid fear porn are now frothing over muh pootin in the same manner.
I feel for you. Went to the based barber shop today and all of them have bought the msm narrative hook line and sinker.
Very few are awake unfortunately. It’s crazy that these people say that the media lied to them about covid but believe media when it comes to Ukraine. It’s insanity.
It's so annoying how everyone is totally obsessed by this. I am just not commenting on anything right now in real life, except with my immediate family who all see things the same way I do (Thank God).
My boss said to me the other day "Your parents must be so emotionally devastated from Russia invading Ukraine", and I was confused as to why he brought up my parents and then he said "because they lived through WW2 in Holland - it must be bringing back all sorts of memories" and I just said that I haven't talked about it with my parents because my Mom's been in the hospital (she actually has - myocarditis - got the booster in December).
He's super confused as to why my parents aren't weeping and gnashing teeth. A few weeks ago my Dad told me he doesn't believe anything on the news anymore, it's all propaganda.
Your parents are Nicki Minaj level of super based. I'm jelly.
Yeah, it's been interesting to watch their slow redpilling.
Today my Mom told me that her Ukrainian orderly at the hospital (in Canada) said that his brothers were killed by Nazis and she and my father talked about it and wondered what he meant because the Nazis were 80 years ago, so when I mentioned that the Ukrainian government is made up of Nazis my Dad goes "Oh, so that's why Putin said he was de-nazifying Ukraine!".
I've never been more proud lol.
Maybe try showing this on the big screen:
Why is Ukraine the West's Fault? Featuring John Mearsheimer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4
Thank you!
"I just don't understand how those who know the media has lied to us repeatedly for years now - especially the past five, suddenly believe they're telling the truth?"
Unreal, isn't it? I said the same thing to my dad a few days ago. Last week here in Canada, Trudeau's government was freezing funds of people who donated to a perfectly good cause. They called us racists and Nazi supporters. This week they're sanctioning Russia and Visa and Mastercard are threatening to cut their services in Russia. Last week I was the bad guy. This week Putin is the bad guy. Ha!!!
Luckily my father agreed with me and most people I know at the very least are skeptical of what our state funded media has to say about anything.
Stay strong Mama and just keep faith that once this movie is over, you will be able to hold your head high with pride.
I'm in exactly the same position. I've decided to just keep it to myself for now and hopefully there will be a big 'TOLD YOU SO!' moment at some point.
I think the MSM has done a really thorough job with the anti Putin propaganda, and it's been going on so long.
https://rumble.com/vw83ow-donbass.-yesterday-today-and-tomorrow-rt-documentary.html?fbclid=IwAR14nPDm2XeQH1Li60fRGl-Xm5B7l9K0ygfntBt1L8AOLzQEZBqF5GjVX4Q Here is a rumble link that I've been converting people with for 2 days. When I tell them this is why Putin is helping the Eastern Ukraines, every single person has apologized.
Thid is really well done. Thank you!
Just mock them. Humor and mockery is the way. (in a loving manner)
"I'm rootin for Putin!"
don't let this drive you crazy. we're almost there.
Honestly, this is probably the way.
It’s hard not to take it seriously, when every freaking conversation with friends and family starts and ends with “those poor Ukrainians dying” and “that murderous bastard Putin must go”.
But they aren’t in the position to listen to logic or reasoning right now, and when you go at them with the same passion they have, then they just think you’re evil.
But if you make it a joke and move on, it hits differently. Won’t make them reconsider anything right away, but it eats at them and will open them up to alternate explanations more easily when the time comes.
Thanks for the reminder and suggestion!
You make a good point that most of them aren't interested in reason. So best not to go that route. A more emotional approach is required.
"If I have to die for a word, my word is Poo-tin."
😝 I needed that
Lol a fellow Full Metal Jacket fan! I was afraid the quote was too obscure.
Five years ago during my stroke, as they were explaining to my parents at 130 am that I'd probably never walk again, would have to relearn to talk and spend many months in rehab, and trying to decide whether to ambulance or med-vac me via air to the ICU, I knew I needed to show dad that I was going to be OK. They load me onto the gurney and despite severe aphasia I looked at him before they wheeled me out and said perfectly clearly: "Does this mean Ann-Margret's not coming?"
He later told me he knew right then that it was going to be fine.
I am glad you are OK!
Thanks. All credit there is due to God. :)
https://youtu.be/xcuP0xZyz8U?t=449
Watch from 7:30 to 11:15
AND
17:15 to 28:15
AND IF YOU HAVE TIME
https://youtu.be/08ZYetAS6Ew?t=1118
Gods got this
Haha! Those same "he's still a mass-murdering dictator" words were thrown at me the other night when I said that Putin hates Satan worshipping pedophiles.
Tell them to research what happened to Qaddaffi in Libya. Tell them to look for Libyan resources and what Libya looked like to the people when he was in power. The guy was a nutbar, but he gave his people the socialist dream.
My based Mom is buying the media's bullshit about Ukraine. So is my far right business partner. Very frustrating indeed!
I struggle with this too. Many of my red pilled friends will not accept our theories on this.
It seems like the ones that are well versed in the world economic forum get it, but many conservatives do not.
Yeah I'm with you. I've had a particularly bad few days.
Overwhelming stupidity at every turn
GF is Polish. I feel your pain. The deep deep hatred of Russia is very strong here
If the US takes out Putin, I will guarantee WWlll will happen. Putin is doing nothing that we wouldn't do if Russia had Bio labs in Mexico and military assets in Canada! Remember CUBA? Almost cause WWlll because Russia put nuclear weapons in Cuba in an answer to the US with having nuclear weapons in Turkey and other countries that BORDERED Russia!
Same here.
It is frustrating but i also feel battle-hardened.
This time i am opposing their bullshit from day 1.
Tell them putin can nuke anywhere in the united states whenever he wants, and there is NOTHING the US can do to stop those nukes from hitting. So if they dont want to die they need to start begging for deescalation.
Not true at all. We have plenty of defense measures in place for incoming nuclear missile launches.
Yeah just like we wear helmets for motorcycle safety. No one ever dies on motorcycles right? Because we have safety measures in place?
Its theater, we aren't stopping russia if they want to put a nuke somewhere bad enough. Dont be naive.
Mutually assured destruction tho.
Yes so many, including Trump supporters, immediately began jumping right back into the propoganda maze of deceit once their feefees were reactivated.
Pavlovian conditioning paradigms never cease to amaze me. Being able to identify these types of mass conditioning paradigms so readily was such an unexpected bonus for my otherwise useless Psych degree.
He wasn’t kidding when He said it’d be a strong delusion🙃🤭
The only thing I've said to those types is "So, you believe everything you're being told by the same fucking media that 100% lied about everything "covid" and "vaccine" over the last 2 years but you're inclined to totally believe them about what's happening in Ukraine? You're a special kind of stupid!".
Sending love and light to you friend!
Who cares? They will find out when the time comes. Like why do you have to be the in’s that convinces them?
Patel patriot just put out a great article yesterday on the proof is in the Putin. Send them some of his research or the whole article to read.
Give them all the data you can find on the Azoz Batallaion and call them nazi lovers.
That's what I've been doing. And unironically so, too!
Oh, the irony! That would be a great comeback and the I would really get the deer-in-the-headlights gaze. I think their heads would literally implode.