People always say, God wins, but they never seem to clarify how, and in what form.
I am reminded of a story a former pastor told, of a man drowning and rejecting a swimmer, then a boat, and then a helicopter, saying each time God would save him. When he dies, he asks God why he didn't save him, and God tells him he tried, having sent a swimmer, a boat and then a helicopter.
I think this question is akin to asking “What is my purpose?” — “Why am I here?”
It’s the struggle of Life man, one that we will ask for all our days, and then one day when we do meet our Lord, HE will then ask the Questions…
“What have you with your Purpose?”
“What have you Done with your time on Earth?”
I think once you look at it that way, the question on How God Wins becomes irrelevant, because by believing in God in of itself is the Answer you need.
I think God created us to know him and to worship Him. There are people that are reluctant to worship God but then they worship a whole bunch of infinitely finite things that God created
Wayyyyyy back in Elementary school, in Religion class, we learned "God made us to love him, know him, and serve him on this Earth". I was 6 at that time. Now I'm 70 and it has not really changed! LOL
And His ways, His Plans and His doings are so much higher and more complex than we could ever comprehend. We are but a tiny speck of a giant puzzle and we cannot even begin to fathom the outer workings of what is going on with the many other pieces we are not able to see.
You know there's about a thousand times more stars in the visible Universe than grains of sand on earth. People can't even begin to visualize that and yet they try to visualize God.
Off topic, but your comment about God sending us Q, made me think of a time I fell outside and was unable, at the time, to get back up because of painful, bad knees. Two young men in a truck just happened to drive by and came over to help me up. I was so very thankful that God had sent me 2 angels to aid me.
Exactly. Could God's plan be to have the Cabal execute most virtuous Christians so that they'll join Him in His Kingdom? It's very likely. I don't think humans could come up and execute a multi-century plan without some divine help. We know that God often works through flawed people after all.
Speaking of God, of Q & of the end times.... You just wrote: "God sent us Q"
um, the thought just hit me, do you think, it just might be that Q is one of those last witnesses mentioned in the bible (Revelation 11:1-14.)? Or maybe even both of them when we find out who Q is??? Just a thought that hit me, atm. If so we will eventually know who they are, of course. That could be why Q says: "God wins" & maybe, as an actual prophet, knows for a fact that God does indeed have a plan in place to save us in the end, etc etc.
I believe it refers to when Jesus says that he has overcome the world and that upon his return that the chaff will be separated into the furnace of fire. Who is stronger than God? I think it's more silly of people who say that some fictional character is godlike because they have some large power, but the real God is more powerful than one could even imagine. Yet these freemasons believe they can challenge him at skyfall. Insanity.
Stage 3:
A. Large nuclear explosion(s) somewhere in the world.
B. Worldwide famine. (orchestrated)
C. A plague causing a 10 fold rate of death that we will not be able to determine.
D. Hazards from outer space. Aliens, asteroids, satellite crashes, hidden weapon systems.
E. All of the above
F. Something you or I haven’t even thought about.
If you don’t think the globalist DS hasn’t considered and planned for events like these, then you’re kidding yourselves. They are the purest of evil!
Think long distance runner moving along at a relentless steady pace. Then Trump came along and the runner broke into a sprint. As did Trump who came up behind the runner and gave him a big shove. And the runner is now terminally off-balance, flailing, and will soon fall.
If nukes go off and chronic radiation ensues, most of the vaccinated with VAIDS will not be able to fix their chronic DNA damage and succumb to cancer.
Certain Christian sects need to drop the whole faith doesn’t require works nonsense.
Fucking, THANK YOU!!! I'm so sick of this bullshit mentality. Your works DO matter. That verse about Grace is a Paulism. Jesus said "do not judge least ye be judged" and told the story of the Good Samaritan indicating that what we do does make a difference and is important. Yes, ultimately Jesus is the judge and He will decide on His metrics which he didn't really disclose clearly for a reason.
So many Christians hide behind convenient excuses to avoid discussion and justify their shitty behavior and it need to END. NOW. If you are ending friendships over political or religious disagreements and justify your shitty behavior with "Muh Bible" I suggest you re-read Jesus and STOP after the Book of John.
Not at all, it’s agreement. As u/spiceyfries alluded, our rewards come from more than blind faith thinking God will just fix it. We must work hard to achieve our goals IN FAITH.
ah I was going to say the same thing to you, but you said it first.
I like to use the family praying to God for help during a flood. They are on top of the house, surrounded by rushing water, the river has breached its banks tremendously.
God hears their prayers and sends a helicopter.
The father says, "No, we prayed and God will save us!"
Before the helicopter leaves, a fire truck shows up on the side of the hill and tells the father they will be sending down a basket for the family to get into and will be lifted up and away from the water.
The father says, "No, we prayed and God will save us!"
With the helicopter and the firetruck loathe to leave, a boat shows up and the captain tells the father they are there to rescue him and his family. They will send over life jackets and they need only put the jackets on and get in the boat.
The father says, "No, we prayed and God will save us!"
The first responders leave, having others to save.
As the water rises and the family sits alone on their house, the father cries out to God, "Have you foresaken us? We prayed and you did not save us!"
And God said, "I heard you and sent a helicopter, a fire truck, and a boat! You have to do your part!"
No harm, no foul Bill!! Actually I had to analyze my original comment in reference to what I was commenting about & that’s healthy banter. I wish we could all go to worship together in the same house; but GAw is the next best place!!
And consider this: in a massive expanding Galaxy full of stars and solar systems, on one specific planet in a specific Galaxy, out of 7 billion people and 6 thousand religions, you just happened to score the correct one?
Or maybe God only reveals Himself in more than one way... and this is just your perspective... maybe Faith isn't about believing unconditionally, but what you do with the knowledge you have been bestowed and more importantly, how you use it towards others...
I’m fascinated with these concepts. When atheists say “if the soul is the root of our awareness, and it existed before we were born why can’t we remember it or for that matter any previous lives”? I believe God wants us to tread in innocence and to be sharing our awareness of Him in A CHILDLIKE WAY. Just as Jesus said. If we strutted around all prideful saying well in my other lives I did this n that and witnessed miracles etc etc then where’s the impact? Everything tarnishes & “gets-old” as far as the human condition. Plus those negative attributes of being human (pridefulness) are the antithesis of the AWAKENING JOURNEY. We’re supposed to revel in this grand mystery in innocence so His splendor never “fades”, or having less consequence. I’m SURE of this tho…these mysteries have been pondered by those more eloquent than I?!!
There is no where in the Bible spoken by God or Jesus that even supports the sit back and do nothing. Paulism, sure. But God and Jesus come off the exact opposite. God is a teacher. Not a do-everything-for-you-er.
Do I believe God wins? I believe He expects us to fight like He could lose...
I had one of those funny thought moments today. I was thinking about how in the movie Forrest Gump, he said, "Life is like a box of chocolates you never know what you're going to get." Then I thought, uuhh no God tells us exactly what we get. It's more like mad libs, God gives us the guidelines and we fill in the blanks 😆
I wonder this all the time. Like is the end of the world relatively near? Or are the white hats going to defeat the cabal and humanity live on for who knows how many more centuries before end times begin? If it’s 7 years tribulation- then are we already in year 3? (2020, 2021, 2022)
Ideally some great catastrophe or weapon will wipe out all the virtuous Christians so that they can join Him before the Second Coming. That's probably why God instructed and empowered the Cabal to target practising Christians before everyone else.
I keep reading Revelation. If you want to believe what John claims he saw and was told, then there are many events that have to happen BEFORE Jesus returns. It's not an easy book to read I will admit.
It's very clear. There is an anti-christ, there is a one-world religion, there is a mark that is on the forehead or right hand that you MUST have to buy or sell goods with the penalty of death for refusal. I would say that we are moving close but we are not there right now.
And which of the 67 English versions lays it out in exactly that detail?
Nevermind. My point is, no it isn't that specific and it's not meant to be taken that literally. The idea of an anti-Christ, one world religion and the mark and such can be argued to have already happened, in progress or has yet to happen. We could argue these stances to no end and come to our respective conclusions supporting our stances.
While insecure Christians like to cling to their affirmations for comfort, the truth is, God did not give us this knowledge so we could use it against others and vindicate ourselves. He gave it to us to see if we would be gracious or vengeful and we will be judged for how we used and abused our knowledge. And no it isn't that cut and dry. Was never meant to be. If it was, we would have all the irrefutable proof we need and there would be no doubt in anyone's mind. That would also render faith pointless and all of our current existence wouldn't have purpose.
Christians need to re-read and follow Jesus. JUST Jesus. I am sure Paul meant well with his interpretations, but what he believed was placed as law and often times I butt heads with Christians on this fact when they quote Paul over Jesus and God... Paul is a man and I do even go so far as to call him a "false prophet" because he is one if you elevate him to or above Jesus. His salvation story has the same consistency as Joseph Smith, the founder of Mormonism, and ultimately Paul did more damage to the faith in the long run than he did good. It is not my place to say he was wrong, however more people should be open to the idea that he wasn't completely right and that we need to place what Jesus said first and and foremost and live by that however we can as best as we can.
I don't mean to argue, you make some interesting points. I just want to be helpful. God Is in control. Completely. We have to surrender our egos and accept that fact. It's not easy.
The last living apostle, John, had been forced to relocate to the island of Patmos. There, while in the spirit of God, he is shown the Revelation of Jesus. We can choose to believe John's writings as fact or not. Yes most of what John describes is symbolic but what Jesus actually speaks is not.
It's not an easy book to read or understand but what is very clear is it describes the final days of this earth and the final judgement of all the humans by God. It is a warning plain and simple. Thank you for writing!
The world as we know it is about to end. So buy gold from their sponsors so at least your retirement account won't tank while you are laid off because every employer got knocked back into the stone age by the cyber attack, fending off sickness from the next super virus, and getting shipped off to the camps.
Friends, just no. There will be no hermitizing while this happens. They will take your gold and your 30 day food supply. We are either going to live as slaves or we are going to defeat the globalists. Pick one.
Once you have your treasure in-hand, now you have to protect it?! Anyone who wishes for wealth in these tumultuous days never considers THAT. Scenario; so you liquidated everything & converted it to physical gold. Where do you stash it? How do you protect it? Everything about currency is flat-out EVIL, and always ends-up being the antithesis of what God wants. There’s multitudes of scenarios that never turn-out well.
Each and every form of life on this plant could be vaporized and God would still exist. There are many people in the world. As much as I hope the evil side loses, I hope more that I'm around to see the good people win. So yeah here is translating to God, because we are to stupid to accomplish it without Him! 🙏
If I were a Jew in WWll, I’d probably think that surely God would not let my fellow humans gas me to death.
But it happened anyway. God did not save them.
He is not going to save us. If letting 6 million Jews die in a gas chamber (or other nefarious ways), doesn’t convince you that God doesn’t intervene in the affairs of men...I don’t know what will.
You may want to recheck those numbers, even the official numbers posted at the concentration camps have been lessened. Funny how the numbers go down but then it is always taught as 6 million. Then again how could they be God's people when Revalation 2:9 tells you who they are.
He doesn't do anything because anything He does is an interference with free will. I believe He wrote the ending... but we get to choose it. This fulfills both free will and predestination theories.
Deuteronomy 28. G-d's promise to the Jews is several fold.
If you follow the commandments, good things will happen. (Good harvest, peace with your family, living comfortably and well.)
If you don't follow the commandments, bad things will happen. (Conquered by outsiders, losing your children, fear, starvation, exile.)
In spite of which, the nation of Israel Weill NEVER fully disappear from the earth.
What does that mean to Jews? Or the Jews in 1939 who didn't flee?
They might not have realized they were enter promise 2, perhaps from the rising Reform movement.
They may thought that they'd be safe due to promise 3.
But the problem with promise 3 is that 99% of the Jews could be horribly murdered with only 1% surviving -- but that 1% is enough to show that G-d kept his word in promise 3.
It's foolish to tempt fate that way.
But we've been through promise 2 multiple times in history already. The Holocaust was just the most recently. There have been other times, particularly the fall of the two temples.
You use the term Jew to loosely. People today think all Israelites are Jews. They are not. The meaning of the word has changed over time and has misled many. The meaning originally applied to the judeans living in Jerusalem at the time of Christ. Only a small amount of the tribe of Judah, Benjamin and Levites were there at that time. It is incorrect to refer to the "lost tribes as Jews.
Yeah, strictly speaking it should mean Israelites. But most of the surviving Israelites are from the tribe of Judah, so it became Jews today, though that would include surviving Levites and Benjaminites.
The "lost tribes" refers to those dragged into captivity by the Assyrians.... The Reubenites, Danites, etc. Some may survive, but lost their identity, though some people make that claim here and there.
Man, I wish I understood more on the tribes, how & where they dissipated and each of their general histories. It’s all so convoluted in today’s world. I’m reading an interesting book now that touches on some of it; “The Touchstone Diary”. It’s fact & fiction (drama) & some have labeled it as heretical (cuz it doesn’t fit their narrative), but the author spent 10 years researching for it and I’ve found it fascinating.
Well, in the ancient world you would often do that to a defeated people. If Rome defeated Carthage, say, they could kill everybody (maybe) or enslave them. Or maybe you leave them there and demand they pay tribute.
Problem with tribute is if you keep them on their own land, they might regroup and rebel.
So a trick they did was.... say you beat city A and City B and they're in separate parts of the world. You relocate the people from City A to City B, and city B to A. That way they are dealing with a new place, a new language, new weather systems and they're so busy dealing with the unfamiliar that they can't organize and rebel.
And over the years, the people of A lose their culture and become more like the Empire. and people B lose their cultural identity and join the empire.
That's why you don't find people walking around today claiming to be Babylonians or Carthaginians or Assyrians. Maybe there's a descendent of Babylon today, but he calls himself an Iraqi and has no real connection to the ancient culture of Babylon.
There's a few peoples that have been around for an extraordinary long time. One is the Chinese, mostly because they have a large piece of land that they've never been displaced from. They still had political turmoil. with multiple dynasties that came to the scene, grew, became corrupt, fell, and were replaced by the next dynasty.
The other is the Jews, that somehow kept their cultural identity intact inspire centuries of exile in foreign lands. That's unusual. Even more unusual, the Bible predicted this before it happened.
An addendum, though, is that with all the deliberate relocation today by the globohomos (useful enough term) they're trying the same damn thing. Dilute American culture by bringing in Latin America and Afghani culture. Dilute European culture by bringing in Arab culture. And I imagine its the same reason: dilute the possibility of rebellion.
We're not losing battles anymore. We're winning a lot specially regarding the jab. Ukraine is not going well for the Deep State at all. Russia has all but taken the county and killing the Nazi infestation. Clinton's are restarting there money laundering operations that was only effective when people donating could garner political favors from the Clinton's. My guess is the Deep State is desperate for cash now and they're trying anything to get it. We're on the offense now and making great strides. This is the beginning of the end for them and make no mistakes its going to get worse before it gets better but there's light at the end of the tunnel finally and we're almost there.
So I'm confused. What are the stages of the Great Reset? I thought that once you launch something, it's launched. "Stage three likely imminent"...meaning what?
It means the third thing they attack us with (after panicdemic and war). But we have been attacked by this 6000 year old cult from the time they started.
The Book, The Bible... God’s Plan for humanity, has already been written.
From cover to cover.
NCSWIC
Man “thinks” he has free will, but ultimately he does not because God has already decided what would, and will, happen even before He created the universe.
You have to take your mind out of the concept of time to fully understand the above, fren.
Yes. The book that authorizes raping and pillaging, claims that gays are bad, but incest is perfectly fine, bastardizes the teachings of Jesus, is so rock solidly inconsistent that there are 67 versions in English alone...
Watch Book of Eli and maybe reconsider the security of the Bible the way Eli did "It's a little beat up, but it will do the job". It's not perfect. Was never meant to be.
Um... no... like seriously no to everything. If Jesus had been sacrificed upon birth, you might have a case here, but he was a grown adult man. Now MAYBE you can articulate that because he was perfect that would be the equivalent to an abortion based on that technicality, but him going to the cross was not an act of evil. In fact by saying so you pretty much vindicate the two points you were trying to make about accusing God of being evil because, well... Jesus pretty much went willingly.
That whole "we put Him on the cross" argument quickly falls apart when you realize that people were ready to die to prevent such a thing. So if people were ready to fight on His behalf, that kills the "we put him there" argument. Of course that same argument stems from the inherited sin fallacy so I'm not surprised you tried it.
Jesus put himself on the cross because it's what needed to be done. He was put there by the establishment religion and the Roman empire and likely would be put there again by the Christian church and the American empire if He were to come today in the same way He did the first time.
I attack the religion because it's based on Paul, not Jesus. If it was based on Jesus, we'd be in a better world provided people stuck to just what Jesus said and not interpretations. We all have our own interpretations of His teachings and that's okay. He didn't give us this knowledge to be right. He gave it to us to learn what is right, but more importantly to learn how to love unconditionally as He does. This is why I welcome challenges. I am secure in my beliefs because peoples anger is not an attack. It's a cry for help. Nothing they can say or do will change the existence of God, so why get so butthurt about it?
Then why are there 67 versions of just English? Why are there inconsistencies with His personality between old testament and new? Why was Biblical canon decided on by a group of people accountable to no one? Why was Enoch left out?
How can you confirm any of the crap you claim is absolute truth? Were you there? Where's your proof?
And who are you to decide what mediums God can and cannot speak from? "The Lord works in mysterious ways" is actually a more ambiguous statement than most Christians are comfortable with acknowledging and thinking about because when you do you realize that God is NOT limited to one book that has been defiled and bastardized through the centuries and can even speak truth through even the most stubborn of doubters.
Your interpretation is yours to decide. But your interpretation, like Paul's is not law. If you spent as much time focused on bolstering your stance as you did trying to reach and understand people, you might find yourself living a more fulfilled life...
God wins when we obey his words. We win too. Revelation says that even in tribulation the people would not repent. I think that is where we are at. Judgement begins with the house of God and Israel will not go unpunished. Israel is not the land in Palestine which is full of anti Christ devils, which modern Christians are deceived about. True Israel occupy Eurpe and America. They are being over ran with aliens and tarrany. That is judgement my friend. Only a remnant will overcome. REPENT and pray and study to show thyself approved.
When the removed/ hidden chapters of the bible that Vatican City does not want us to have, are revealed, we will obviously be better informed... will it ever happen? Not as long as the cabal is pulling the strings. I think the hidden bible concept is very real. They have kept that and much more from us.
Most prophecies aren't worth anything. The 2 big wars in Revelations happen AFTER God's wrath. Aremeggedan starts the millennial reign. So can you see why Zionists paint Russia as Gog and Magog? The church is stupid for falling for this. I believe this is the great deception.
Rev 19:19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
And Gog Magog finishes it.
Rev 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
Rev 20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
With the chicken shit logic of God wins then why did we ever fight a war ? Cowardly Christians say that garbage all the time. Salvation wins in the end. Grow a pair and fight against the evil now. Cowardly Christians make me puke.
I believe coward and Christian should be 2 different things.
To many Christians are cowards.
The Bible says to love thy neighbor. I can't love my neighbor and sit by and watch them suffer because I am a coward.
People always say, God wins, but they never seem to clarify how, and in what form.
I am reminded of a story a former pastor told, of a man drowning and rejecting a swimmer, then a boat, and then a helicopter, saying each time God would save him. When he dies, he asks God why he didn't save him, and God tells him he tried, having sent a swimmer, a boat and then a helicopter.
…and God replied “I have you the 2nd amendment”.
I think this question is akin to asking “What is my purpose?” — “Why am I here?”
It’s the struggle of Life man, one that we will ask for all our days, and then one day when we do meet our Lord, HE will then ask the Questions…
“What have you with your Purpose?”
“What have you Done with your time on Earth?”
I think once you look at it that way, the question on How God Wins becomes irrelevant, because by believing in God in of itself is the Answer you need.
I think God created us to know him and to worship Him. There are people that are reluctant to worship God but then they worship a whole bunch of infinitely finite things that God created
'Capice'.
Wayyyyyy back in Elementary school, in Religion class, we learned "God made us to love him, know him, and serve him on this Earth". I was 6 at that time. Now I'm 70 and it has not really changed! LOL
Wow that's spot-on. Congratulations for making it all this way. I'm 60 and I still lost more friends (passing) up until the age of 20.
And His ways, His Plans and His doings are so much higher and more complex than we could ever comprehend. We are but a tiny speck of a giant puzzle and we cannot even begin to fathom the outer workings of what is going on with the many other pieces we are not able to see.
You know there's about a thousand times more stars in the visible Universe than grains of sand on earth. People can't even begin to visualize that and yet they try to visualize God.
Right. His ways are sooo much higher than ours or what we could even begin to fathom.
Well, then it's easy. God sent us Q. We win. No matter what.
Off topic, but your comment about God sending us Q, made me think of a time I fell outside and was unable, at the time, to get back up because of painful, bad knees. Two young men in a truck just happened to drive by and came over to help me up. I was so very thankful that God had sent me 2 angels to aid me.
Exactly. Could God's plan be to have the Cabal execute most virtuous Christians so that they'll join Him in His Kingdom? It's very likely. I don't think humans could come up and execute a multi-century plan without some divine help. We know that God often works through flawed people after all.
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Speaking of God, of Q & of the end times.... You just wrote: "God sent us Q"
um, the thought just hit me, do you think, it just might be that Q is one of those last witnesses mentioned in the bible (Revelation 11:1-14.)? Or maybe even both of them when we find out who Q is??? Just a thought that hit me, atm. If so we will eventually know who they are, of course. That could be why Q says: "God wins" & maybe, as an actual prophet, knows for a fact that God does indeed have a plan in place to save us in the end, etc etc.
Just a thought that hit me, atm
I believe it refers to when Jesus says that he has overcome the world and that upon his return that the chaff will be separated into the furnace of fire. Who is stronger than God? I think it's more silly of people who say that some fictional character is godlike because they have some large power, but the real God is more powerful than one could even imagine. Yet these freemasons believe they can challenge him at skyfall. Insanity.
Stage 3:
A. Large nuclear explosion(s) somewhere in the world. B. Worldwide famine. (orchestrated) C. A plague causing a 10 fold rate of death that we will not be able to determine. D. Hazards from outer space. Aliens, asteroids, satellite crashes, hidden weapon systems. E. All of the above F. Something you or I haven’t even thought about.
If you don’t think the globalist DS hasn’t considered and planned for events like these, then you’re kidding yourselves. They are the purest of evil!
E & F, see also Operation Warp Speed.
Think long distance runner moving along at a relentless steady pace. Then Trump came along and the runner broke into a sprint. As did Trump who came up behind the runner and gave him a big shove. And the runner is now terminally off-balance, flailing, and will soon fall.
If nukes go off and chronic radiation ensues, most of the vaccinated with VAIDS will not be able to fix their chronic DNA damage and succumb to cancer.
Damn. I never considered this. They wouldn't even have to go all out ... A few dirty nukes in the right places would cause widespread death.
God helps those who help themselves.
Faith without works is dead. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=James%202%3A14-26&version=NKJV;NLT
Certain Christian sects need to drop the whole faith doesn’t require works nonsense.
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Fucking, THANK YOU!!! I'm so sick of this bullshit mentality. Your works DO matter. That verse about Grace is a Paulism. Jesus said "do not judge least ye be judged" and told the story of the Good Samaritan indicating that what we do does make a difference and is important. Yes, ultimately Jesus is the judge and He will decide on His metrics which he didn't really disclose clearly for a reason.
So many Christians hide behind convenient excuses to avoid discussion and justify their shitty behavior and it need to END. NOW. If you are ending friendships over political or religious disagreements and justify your shitty behavior with "Muh Bible" I suggest you re-read Jesus and STOP after the Book of John.
Thanks…I needed that this beautiful Sunday morning!! 🙏😁
Not at all, it’s agreement. As u/spiceyfries alluded, our rewards come from more than blind faith thinking God will just fix it. We must work hard to achieve our goals IN FAITH.
ah I was going to say the same thing to you, but you said it first.
I like to use the family praying to God for help during a flood. They are on top of the house, surrounded by rushing water, the river has breached its banks tremendously.
God hears their prayers and sends a helicopter.
The father says, "No, we prayed and God will save us!"
Before the helicopter leaves, a fire truck shows up on the side of the hill and tells the father they will be sending down a basket for the family to get into and will be lifted up and away from the water.
The father says, "No, we prayed and God will save us!"
With the helicopter and the firetruck loathe to leave, a boat shows up and the captain tells the father they are there to rescue him and his family. They will send over life jackets and they need only put the jackets on and get in the boat.
The father says, "No, we prayed and God will save us!"
The first responders leave, having others to save.
As the water rises and the family sits alone on their house, the father cries out to God, "Have you foresaken us? We prayed and you did not save us!"
And God said, "I heard you and sent a helicopter, a fire truck, and a boat! You have to do your part!"
No harm, no foul Bill!! Actually I had to analyze my original comment in reference to what I was commenting about & that’s healthy banter. I wish we could all go to worship together in the same house; but GAw is the next best place!!
God is a teacher. Not a do-everything-for-you-er.
And consider this: in a massive expanding Galaxy full of stars and solar systems, on one specific planet in a specific Galaxy, out of 7 billion people and 6 thousand religions, you just happened to score the correct one?
Or maybe God only reveals Himself in more than one way... and this is just your perspective... maybe Faith isn't about believing unconditionally, but what you do with the knowledge you have been bestowed and more importantly, how you use it towards others...
I’m fascinated with these concepts. When atheists say “if the soul is the root of our awareness, and it existed before we were born why can’t we remember it or for that matter any previous lives”? I believe God wants us to tread in innocence and to be sharing our awareness of Him in A CHILDLIKE WAY. Just as Jesus said. If we strutted around all prideful saying well in my other lives I did this n that and witnessed miracles etc etc then where’s the impact? Everything tarnishes & “gets-old” as far as the human condition. Plus those negative attributes of being human (pridefulness) are the antithesis of the AWAKENING JOURNEY. We’re supposed to revel in this grand mystery in innocence so His splendor never “fades”, or having less consequence. I’m SURE of this tho…these mysteries have been pondered by those more eloquent than I?!!
There is no where in the Bible spoken by God or Jesus that even supports the sit back and do nothing. Paulism, sure. But God and Jesus come off the exact opposite. God is a teacher. Not a do-everything-for-you-er.
Do I believe God wins? I believe He expects us to fight like He could lose...
I had one of those funny thought moments today. I was thinking about how in the movie Forrest Gump, he said, "Life is like a box of chocolates you never know what you're going to get." Then I thought, uuhh no God tells us exactly what we get. It's more like mad libs, God gives us the guidelines and we fill in the blanks 😆
Yes!!
I like that analogy
G-d will blast open the door once we open it just a crack.
But we still have to open it a crack.
I wonder this all the time. Like is the end of the world relatively near? Or are the white hats going to defeat the cabal and humanity live on for who knows how many more centuries before end times begin? If it’s 7 years tribulation- then are we already in year 3? (2020, 2021, 2022)
Me too. Let’s hope it’s the case!
Ideally some great catastrophe or weapon will wipe out all the virtuous Christians so that they can join Him before the Second Coming. That's probably why God instructed and empowered the Cabal to target practising Christians before everyone else.
That "revival" is not going to go the way you think.
The market can stay irrational longer than you can remain solvent
I keep reading Revelation. If you want to believe what John claims he saw and was told, then there are many events that have to happen BEFORE Jesus returns. It's not an easy book to read I will admit.
Assuming those events haven't already happened... just not in the most obvious of ways...
Prophecy could also go on ice again.
It's very clear. There is an anti-christ, there is a one-world religion, there is a mark that is on the forehead or right hand that you MUST have to buy or sell goods with the penalty of death for refusal. I would say that we are moving close but we are not there right now.
And which of the 67 English versions lays it out in exactly that detail?
Nevermind. My point is, no it isn't that specific and it's not meant to be taken that literally. The idea of an anti-Christ, one world religion and the mark and such can be argued to have already happened, in progress or has yet to happen. We could argue these stances to no end and come to our respective conclusions supporting our stances.
While insecure Christians like to cling to their affirmations for comfort, the truth is, God did not give us this knowledge so we could use it against others and vindicate ourselves. He gave it to us to see if we would be gracious or vengeful and we will be judged for how we used and abused our knowledge. And no it isn't that cut and dry. Was never meant to be. If it was, we would have all the irrefutable proof we need and there would be no doubt in anyone's mind. That would also render faith pointless and all of our current existence wouldn't have purpose.
Christians need to re-read and follow Jesus. JUST Jesus. I am sure Paul meant well with his interpretations, but what he believed was placed as law and often times I butt heads with Christians on this fact when they quote Paul over Jesus and God... Paul is a man and I do even go so far as to call him a "false prophet" because he is one if you elevate him to or above Jesus. His salvation story has the same consistency as Joseph Smith, the founder of Mormonism, and ultimately Paul did more damage to the faith in the long run than he did good. It is not my place to say he was wrong, however more people should be open to the idea that he wasn't completely right and that we need to place what Jesus said first and and foremost and live by that however we can as best as we can.
I don't mean to argue, you make some interesting points. I just want to be helpful. God Is in control. Completely. We have to surrender our egos and accept that fact. It's not easy.
The last living apostle, John, had been forced to relocate to the island of Patmos. There, while in the spirit of God, he is shown the Revelation of Jesus. We can choose to believe John's writings as fact or not. Yes most of what John describes is symbolic but what Jesus actually speaks is not.
It's not an easy book to read or understand but what is very clear is it describes the final days of this earth and the final judgement of all the humans by God. It is a warning plain and simple. Thank you for writing!
The world as we know it is about to end. So buy gold from their sponsors so at least your retirement account won't tank while you are laid off because every employer got knocked back into the stone age by the cyber attack, fending off sickness from the next super virus, and getting shipped off to the camps.
Friends, just no. There will be no hermitizing while this happens. They will take your gold and your 30 day food supply. We are either going to live as slaves or we are going to defeat the globalists. Pick one.
Once you have your treasure in-hand, now you have to protect it?! Anyone who wishes for wealth in these tumultuous days never considers THAT. Scenario; so you liquidated everything & converted it to physical gold. Where do you stash it? How do you protect it? Everything about currency is flat-out EVIL, and always ends-up being the antithesis of what God wants. There’s multitudes of scenarios that never turn-out well.
Each and every form of life on this plant could be vaporized and God would still exist. There are many people in the world. As much as I hope the evil side loses, I hope more that I'm around to see the good people win. So yeah here is translating to God, because we are to stupid to accomplish it without Him! 🙏
If I were a Jew in WWll, I’d probably think that surely God would not let my fellow humans gas me to death.
But it happened anyway. God did not save them.
He is not going to save us. If letting 6 million Jews die in a gas chamber (or other nefarious ways), doesn’t convince you that God doesn’t intervene in the affairs of men...I don’t know what will.
You may want to recheck those numbers, even the official numbers posted at the concentration camps have been lessened. Funny how the numbers go down but then it is always taught as 6 million. Then again how could they be God's people when Revalation 2:9 tells you who they are.
Oh... so less than 6 million but as high as 500K means it's okay now and God is off the hook?
I agree with this statement.
God doesn't need to do anything. Because he knows that Good and Bad is an up and down thing naturally.
He doesn't do anything because anything He does is an interference with free will. I believe He wrote the ending... but we get to choose it. This fulfills both free will and predestination theories.
Deuteronomy 28. G-d's promise to the Jews is several fold.
If you follow the commandments, good things will happen. (Good harvest, peace with your family, living comfortably and well.)
If you don't follow the commandments, bad things will happen. (Conquered by outsiders, losing your children, fear, starvation, exile.)
In spite of which, the nation of Israel Weill NEVER fully disappear from the earth.
What does that mean to Jews? Or the Jews in 1939 who didn't flee?
They might not have realized they were enter promise 2, perhaps from the rising Reform movement.
They may thought that they'd be safe due to promise 3.
But the problem with promise 3 is that 99% of the Jews could be horribly murdered with only 1% surviving -- but that 1% is enough to show that G-d kept his word in promise 3.
It's foolish to tempt fate that way.
But we've been through promise 2 multiple times in history already. The Holocaust was just the most recently. There have been other times, particularly the fall of the two temples.
You use the term Jew to loosely. People today think all Israelites are Jews. They are not. The meaning of the word has changed over time and has misled many. The meaning originally applied to the judeans living in Jerusalem at the time of Christ. Only a small amount of the tribe of Judah, Benjamin and Levites were there at that time. It is incorrect to refer to the "lost tribes as Jews.
Yeah, strictly speaking it should mean Israelites. But most of the surviving Israelites are from the tribe of Judah, so it became Jews today, though that would include surviving Levites and Benjaminites.
The "lost tribes" refers to those dragged into captivity by the Assyrians.... The Reubenites, Danites, etc. Some may survive, but lost their identity, though some people make that claim here and there.
Man, I wish I understood more on the tribes, how & where they dissipated and each of their general histories. It’s all so convoluted in today’s world. I’m reading an interesting book now that touches on some of it; “The Touchstone Diary”. It’s fact & fiction (drama) & some have labeled it as heretical (cuz it doesn’t fit their narrative), but the author spent 10 years researching for it and I’ve found it fascinating.
Well, in the ancient world you would often do that to a defeated people. If Rome defeated Carthage, say, they could kill everybody (maybe) or enslave them. Or maybe you leave them there and demand they pay tribute.
Problem with tribute is if you keep them on their own land, they might regroup and rebel.
So a trick they did was.... say you beat city A and City B and they're in separate parts of the world. You relocate the people from City A to City B, and city B to A. That way they are dealing with a new place, a new language, new weather systems and they're so busy dealing with the unfamiliar that they can't organize and rebel.
And over the years, the people of A lose their culture and become more like the Empire. and people B lose their cultural identity and join the empire.
That's why you don't find people walking around today claiming to be Babylonians or Carthaginians or Assyrians. Maybe there's a descendent of Babylon today, but he calls himself an Iraqi and has no real connection to the ancient culture of Babylon.
There's a few peoples that have been around for an extraordinary long time. One is the Chinese, mostly because they have a large piece of land that they've never been displaced from. They still had political turmoil. with multiple dynasties that came to the scene, grew, became corrupt, fell, and were replaced by the next dynasty.
The other is the Jews, that somehow kept their cultural identity intact inspire centuries of exile in foreign lands. That's unusual. Even more unusual, the Bible predicted this before it happened.
An addendum, though, is that with all the deliberate relocation today by the globohomos (useful enough term) they're trying the same damn thing. Dilute American culture by bringing in Latin America and Afghani culture. Dilute European culture by bringing in Arab culture. And I imagine its the same reason: dilute the possibility of rebellion.
I don’t recall losing many battles, lately.
Yeah this is defeatist do nothing bullshit copium.
We'll be saying "god wins" from the gulags here pretty soon
So what? As long as you keep the faith you will be saved. Many of our Saints were martyrs.
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The "great reset" is not happening. We are winning. We have been since June of 2015 if not earlier.
I don't care how secure you think you are in the whole "god wins" stance. I expect you to fight like He will lose. And so does He.
We're not losing battles anymore. We're winning a lot specially regarding the jab. Ukraine is not going well for the Deep State at all. Russia has all but taken the county and killing the Nazi infestation. Clinton's are restarting there money laundering operations that was only effective when people donating could garner political favors from the Clinton's. My guess is the Deep State is desperate for cash now and they're trying anything to get it. We're on the offense now and making great strides. This is the beginning of the end for them and make no mistakes its going to get worse before it gets better but there's light at the end of the tunnel finally and we're almost there.
Agree 💯 %.
So I'm confused. What are the stages of the Great Reset? I thought that once you launch something, it's launched. "Stage three likely imminent"...meaning what?
It means the third thing they attack us with (after panicdemic and war). But we have been attacked by this 6000 year old cult from the time they started.
The world seen through the eyes and goals and almighty power of the cabal. No Q report is a view without Q and all the things he revealed.
Here is some damning evidence after evidence to prove and disprove who and what. Released in 2021. Links lead to leaks. (Some links are in Ukrainian)
https://seemorerocks.is/the-secret-us-biolabs-in-ukraine/
Good article!
I rather expect a combination of the two.
Not fully shut down the internet, but disrupt it ALOT.
And set up for another jab (with fewer controls getting saline).
The Book, The Bible... God’s Plan for humanity, has already been written.
From cover to cover.
NCSWIC
Man “thinks” he has free will, but ultimately he does not because God has already decided what would, and will, happen even before He created the universe.
You have to take your mind out of the concept of time to fully understand the above, fren.
Yes. The book that authorizes raping and pillaging, claims that gays are bad, but incest is perfectly fine, bastardizes the teachings of Jesus, is so rock solidly inconsistent that there are 67 versions in English alone...
Watch Book of Eli and maybe reconsider the security of the Bible the way Eli did "It's a little beat up, but it will do the job". It's not perfect. Was never meant to be.
Um... no... like seriously no to everything. If Jesus had been sacrificed upon birth, you might have a case here, but he was a grown adult man. Now MAYBE you can articulate that because he was perfect that would be the equivalent to an abortion based on that technicality, but him going to the cross was not an act of evil. In fact by saying so you pretty much vindicate the two points you were trying to make about accusing God of being evil because, well... Jesus pretty much went willingly.
That whole "we put Him on the cross" argument quickly falls apart when you realize that people were ready to die to prevent such a thing. So if people were ready to fight on His behalf, that kills the "we put him there" argument. Of course that same argument stems from the inherited sin fallacy so I'm not surprised you tried it.
Jesus put himself on the cross because it's what needed to be done. He was put there by the establishment religion and the Roman empire and likely would be put there again by the Christian church and the American empire if He were to come today in the same way He did the first time.
I attack the religion because it's based on Paul, not Jesus. If it was based on Jesus, we'd be in a better world provided people stuck to just what Jesus said and not interpretations. We all have our own interpretations of His teachings and that's okay. He didn't give us this knowledge to be right. He gave it to us to learn what is right, but more importantly to learn how to love unconditionally as He does. This is why I welcome challenges. I am secure in my beliefs because peoples anger is not an attack. It's a cry for help. Nothing they can say or do will change the existence of God, so why get so butthurt about it?
Then why are there 67 versions of just English? Why are there inconsistencies with His personality between old testament and new? Why was Biblical canon decided on by a group of people accountable to no one? Why was Enoch left out?
How can you confirm any of the crap you claim is absolute truth? Were you there? Where's your proof?
And who are you to decide what mediums God can and cannot speak from? "The Lord works in mysterious ways" is actually a more ambiguous statement than most Christians are comfortable with acknowledging and thinking about because when you do you realize that God is NOT limited to one book that has been defiled and bastardized through the centuries and can even speak truth through even the most stubborn of doubters.
Your interpretation is yours to decide. But your interpretation, like Paul's is not law. If you spent as much time focused on bolstering your stance as you did trying to reach and understand people, you might find yourself living a more fulfilled life...
God wins when we obey his words. We win too. Revelation says that even in tribulation the people would not repent. I think that is where we are at. Judgement begins with the house of God and Israel will not go unpunished. Israel is not the land in Palestine which is full of anti Christ devils, which modern Christians are deceived about. True Israel occupy Eurpe and America. They are being over ran with aliens and tarrany. That is judgement my friend. Only a remnant will overcome. REPENT and pray and study to show thyself approved.
I’m the OP on this post and it seems a mod (or mods) is censoring some of my comments in this thread.
Maybe others too?
Don’t know why, but it looks like it’s true.
It seems some of our opinions regarding God are not welcome here.
That’s NOT the mods job, if true.
When the removed/ hidden chapters of the bible that Vatican City does not want us to have, are revealed, we will obviously be better informed... will it ever happen? Not as long as the cabal is pulling the strings. I think the hidden bible concept is very real. They have kept that and much more from us.
Most prophecies aren't worth anything. The 2 big wars in Revelations happen AFTER God's wrath. Aremeggedan starts the millennial reign. So can you see why Zionists paint Russia as Gog and Magog? The church is stupid for falling for this. I believe this is the great deception.
Rev 19:19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
And Gog Magog finishes it.
Rev 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, Rev 20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
Hell ya
With the chicken shit logic of God wins then why did we ever fight a war ? Cowardly Christians say that garbage all the time. Salvation wins in the end. Grow a pair and fight against the evil now. Cowardly Christians make me puke.
Stage 1 pestilence, stage 2 war, stage 3 is famine. 4 horseman.
I believe coward and Christian should be 2 different things. To many Christians are cowards. The Bible says to love thy neighbor. I can't love my neighbor and sit by and watch them suffer because I am a coward.