๐ฅ๐น๐ญ Florida Senate just terminated Disneyโs special tax privileges ๐ฅ๐น๐ญ
(citizenfreepress.com)
๐ช WINNING ๐
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This is what winning feels like.
I would in fact say that's a good thing even if it was a Trump pick, unless they chose a period of time that was just after when they moved there.
Politicians moving states and changing their cultures is part of what caused us to head into this direction
It's very shocking to see how many people here don't know how government works. Even HERE, in a place where people purport to be patriots.
This report says the SENATE passed the bill. That doesn't mean diddly squat. A bill must pass both houses of congress whether in a state or federally. If the senate did indeed pass this, which I question, (only because of the speed) than it would also have to pass the house. If it doesn't, the bill is dead. At least for the time being. If it passes BOTH houses, it can then go to the governor to be signed into law.
A bill can originate in either house (senate or representatives) and if it is passed in it's originating house, can then move to the other for consideration. But just because it passes one side or the other, that doesn't mean it becomes law. Many, many bills pass one house but not the other and never become law. This is very basic, very rudimentary stuff. If you didn't understand this, please do some studying. Honestly, it's frightening that so many don't know this. No wonder so few seem to have any idea what the constitution is or does. And it's that very lack of knowledge that the bad guys exploit for their own nefarious purposes.
I think many, if not most, know how government works at the level you describe. But if you can teach anyone that doesn't know what you described something new, that's time well spent and very much appreciated. Everyone needs to keep learning new things, especially about how our government works.
Each state constitution can very from another state's so it's important for everyone to know their own state's constitution, in addition to the United States Constitution.
What you described is the same in all states, so it's a good foundation to understand.
Both state houses and the governor need to sign bills to create new laws. This is why states with divided houses or a split between houses and a governor often get stuck in the mud with neither side getting anything done.
The good news is that Florida has an absolutely based Governor and a strong majority in the state senate and state house. I'm feeling confident this one is going through.
Thanks for sharing u/gobby ๐๐ป
You're welcome, MAGA_Patriot_1776. And btw, the explanation wasn't meant for you, just people in general. I included it because I recently had a similar conversation with someone in a different thread who said they didn't know a bill had to pass both houses. :o( It frustrates me that government and civics classes were dropped by so many schools. For some reason, people aren't learning these basic things. And it's all so important. I have had numerous conversations with people about the US Constitution (and I'm no expert) and am always perplexed by how little people understand about it. I actually have wished on a number of occasions that a constitutional type expert would post here and enlighten us all more fully. Wishful thinking, I suppose. Thanks for the news though.
I really appreciate your comment u/gobby ๐๐ป. We have a very wide spectrum of people on this board. Members range every walk of life and every level of understanding. And many are from around the world. I wouldn't expect someone from another country to know our history and government as we do. So I thank you for your explanation.
I think you've hit on a great idea with having posts about the constitution. I might even take a crack at something like that. it could start an interesting discussion thread and I have a feeling the Constitutional Experts might way in on that typ of thread. I hope they do. At the very least, it may also be the catalyst for someone to take a closer look.
You can rest assured of this... The more Americans that know and understand our Constitution, the stronger our nation will become. The stronger our political force will become. There will be many great results from such understanding.
Here's to you and your continued efforts to help our community understand our Constitution more fully.
u/#Merica
Actually, the bicameral legislature you mentioned is present in 49 of the 50 states. Nebraska has a unicameral legislature, and is the only state to do so. The members of the legislative branch in Nebraska are all called Senators.
That's why I love this community so much. Thank you u/NeuroticFisherman ๐๐ป
Does this relate in anyway as to why Nebraska can split their electoral votes as well?
https://www.fairvote.org/maine_nebraska
So 1 per district, and winner gets the 2 senator votes.
He's politely telling you that your headline is misleading.
It's a copied and pasted headline and that's on me.
While it states the senate did so, I certainly I agree it is misleading, because nothing is terminated until the state house, state senate, and Governor agree and sign the bill.
I will double check before copy/pasting next time to be more accurate.
Thanks u/pearlrevolver ๐๐ป
There's nothing wrong with the heading. If anything you could add the words "voted to". We understand that it's not a law but at least they got the wheels in motion. It would be nice to see other states be half as effective at getting things out of committee and to the floor.
That's true for most states, but not Nebraska. Nebraska has a single legislative body when most other states have two.
Interesting! Thanks. I didn't know Nebraska had a unicameral legislature. Very interesting.
I believe it originated by looking at the House of Lords and House of Commons in the UK. The House of Lords exists so the aristocracy can still have an outsized share of political power over the common man, and that persists somewhat in bicameral legislatures. At Nebraska's founding, it was decided that it's ridiculous to maintain that, thus the unicameral legislature.
A lot of people are unaware that originally, members of the US Senate were elected by the state legislatures. I believe it was the 27th amendment that abolished that practice and gave it to the people to vote on. I have had mixed feelings about that. Currently, we have more conservative state legislatures than leftist legislatures. From that, we could extrapolate that we would currently have a fairly healthy majority in the US Senate, which would certainly be a good thing. How does the Nebraska legislature lean?
That's the 17th amendment and it's horrible. The Senate is supposed to represent the interests of the States, and the House is supposed to represent the interests of the people. That's why Senators should be selected by the state legislatures and Congressmen are elected by the people. Only when the States and the People agree can legislation be passed.
The Nebraska legislature leans GOP.
You seem to know a lot, Beerman. Perhaps you could make some posts about various things to enlighten people here. That would be great.
House writes the bills, senate passes them. Last I checked.
No, that's not how it works at all. :o( Yikes. Check up on it. EITHER side can propose a bill then vote on it in their chamber. If it passes, it then goes to the other side. Only when they both pass it, does it go to the governor or president. This is easy to verify. And you're a vet. :o(
Condescending much?
The FL house already passed it...
If that's the case, then great! But it was all done so quickly, it's suspicious. Also, the article has a twitter post saying it goes to the House tomorrow.
It hasn't yet passed the house.
And you are correct to be suspicious, the bill wipes $2B of debt away from Disney and onto Florida government. They need to revise it to keep them liable for paying off their debt.
I was wrong....i read something else...
Let's see what happens: https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/dis
So it is now the law of the land, or does it have more hurdles to pass? Did the legislature already approve it?
Still needs Florida house vote but with a 77 to 42 majority that's looking pretty good.
It just needs to be signed by DeSantis.
u/#bahaha
u/#trumpkek
Actually, here is an article from today's NY Post. According to this, it has not passed the House yet. https://nypost.com/2022/04/20/florida-lawmakers-vote-to-end-disneys-tax-privilege-self-governing-status/
Important detail. Thanks u/gobby ๐๐ป
Hopefully the Florida House moves it right to the Gov's desk.
the overpriced mouse kingdom is coming to an end!!! good riddance!!! than families can spend their money on something other than polluting kids minds.
Holy Shit! The Pedocrats eyeballs may pop out of their heads over this one! ๐คฃ
HOT DAMN!!! GO DESANTIS!!!
u/#disgonbgud
HELLZ FUCKIN' YEAH
woke = broke awesome.
Ole piss saki gonna have to muster up some more fake tears.
good, thats what needs to happen. wish abbott could figure this out for google and amazon.
And that is why I sold my NY house and am Florida bound!!!
DeSantis is posturing for a run for President.
Even with all his right moves he doesn't stand a chance against Trump, if Trump decides to run in 2024 which I don't believe is set in stone at this point.
In fact I am not so sure we have even seen the whitehat's candidate for 2024. Trump is getting up there in years, and he took a lot of abuse already for the movement. They may not want him to remain as the center piece. This revolution is going to take decades and he can't last long enough to see it to the end. The cabal has been taking control since before the central bank was created in 1919. It is going to take some time to dismantle the demon system.
DeSantis is being prepped for after Trump finishes his terms out. I'd say DeSantis 2028. Florida is going to become the model for all other states, but it will take more time.
I agree with you.
However, I do think Trump will run again in 2024 and possibly have a chance to be back before then, after the 2022 midterms.
It's my understanding that if he was back in office before the midterms he could only finish out the current term and not be able to run in 2024. If he returns after the midterms in 2022 he could then also run again in 2024.
This would allow Trump to be President for a total of 10 years instead of 6.
Check out the 22nd amendment here.
Most presidents age in office like the dude in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade when he drinks from the wrong cup.
Maybe Trump chose the right chalice because he doesn't seem to have aged much at all.
I hope you are right about him sticking around, and ten years would be even better. We do need him, but we need to also look beyond his time. The transition away from the cabal run world is going to be fairly long in my opinion.
I agree ๐ฏ%
The two party illusion of Republicans vs Democrats must be destroyed forever. It is clear, to me at least, that the two parties are US vs Them.
We need a permanent structural change that ensures We The People have our voices heard. You are right that Trump can't be there forever. He has been an important catalyst for the change we need as a country.
Hopefully, when he is back in office he can lead us toward the change we need, but in order for it to be sustainable, We The People need to get involved locally and all the way up to the top levels. What we've been through is a "never forget" experience and we must embrace that to ensure long term change for generations to come.
u/#wwg1wga
I'd hate to see DeSantis run for pres so soon after he's become governor, afraid of a RINO taking over for him
I wouldn't mind seeing him run a few years down the road, if he keeps going the way he is in Florida. He is to recent on the scene for me to want to see him go against Trump. That would just split up the vote so they could try to primary Trump out, and he might have been put in place just for that attempt. The cabal plays the long game, and plays it from both sides of the aisle.
He won't challenge trump if trump wants it. He also won't get it ynless trump endorses him.
Hallelujah!!! Great move!!!
The corruption that gave Disney that ability is also a problem.
Tear down the Disney parks. Make my day.
When the full force of MAGA Patriots strike back economically, many globalist cabal companies will fail.
Go woke, go broke.
Now letโs see how all the candidates that took money from Disney vote in the house. Lots of those politicians are bought and paid for by Disney. Letโs see if they return the favor or vote for what is in the best interest of the people.
We need to end big business buying these politicians.
so just needs Desantis' signature now?
No, it's going to the house for consideration.
They were warned. Disney delivered the most expensive lecture in human history.