Wrong fucking Party to be comparing to Hitler. We have got to be more effective at explaining this to the People. It really chaps my ass to hear or see when they compare Conservatism to National Socialism.
The stormfags and/or glowies are trying their best to make that narrative fit this website. It's an around the clock operation. Anyone with even a passing familiarity with history should know American conservatism and national socialism are diametrically opposed worldviews.
Benjamin Franklin called the Jews (Any participating race), "Vampires". He was correct. The system these people are in (Judaism) is the same as Pharisaism, Babylonism and Baal. The Lord called them children of Satan.
Hitler asked the communists (Jews) to leave and they wouldn't so he threw them in labor camps. He also had their pornography materials burned. Yea that was the famous book burning.
Oppose LGBT, but promote perversion in secret for the chosen elite.
Oppose immigrants sucking the country dry, and oppose anyone else in the country who threatens the centralization of power.
Oppose foreign influence of big banks and debt usury, while stealing the assets and wealth of other nations and peoples.
Value hard work, the family and country, as an ideology, as long as it all confirms to absolutism of the centralization of power.
Encourage citizens to be healthy in the body, while undermining their mental and spiritual well being via propaganda and brainwashing.
Favor Christianity over other religions, as long as it serves the propaganda goals and helps to centralize power, but never act in a Christian way when it contradicts the ultimate agenda of self-idolization.
Demand legal action against false news articles from the opposition, while publishing propaganda.
That is like the left wing commies want everyone to be tolerant of their views, but they don't want to be tolerant of any one else's views; and they can surely change the meaning of words quickly and forcefully. They make me ill just thinking about them.
If anyone compares the right to Nazis, ask them to explain how small government conservatives would fall down the slippery slope into big government authoritarianism. They'll start talking stupid while you laugh at them.
He's not comparing the party tho. He's comparing geotus to another populist. It's why Bernie was geotus' only real competition until the dnc did what they always do.
I won't be a hypocrite and claim that I was pro Trump when he was first elected. I mean, I was delighted that HRC was defeated, but I was highly skeptical of Trump and I was a bit disappointed that he was the Republican candidate. I saw his election a not much more than an FU to the establishment, and I was worried about the long-term outcome.
I was proven very wrong and he won me over. I am a huge Trump fan now because he proved to me that he wanted nothing more than to make America great, and he showed that he truly loves the American people and would put himself in the crossfire time and again for our best interests.
People have a right to change their minds. My only question is if JD Vance's partnership with Trump right now is genuine.
I'm with you and totally understand. I did not vote in 16 (my shame) because I was so over politics at that point because of the years of lies and evil I knew we'd been suffering. I honestly figured we were hopeless at the time. Trump was elected and my thought was "this will be interesting" I too hated HRC and was happy anyone but her had one. Then DJT pulled us out of the TPP and I was shocked awake again in an instant. I remember freaking out to my wife about it because I knew it was one of their pet projects. From that moment I began digging into all things trump, outside his reality show stuff. Then I immediately found Q and away we went. Suffice it to say I have been re-awakened with a hope unbridled. My faith has been restored for this world actually not just our nation. God gave us a chance at redemption and the simple fact we even have a chance was enough to change my life forever. A glimmer of light in a darkness I had been living through for almost my whole life. I will go to Jesus one day thankful for even the hope. No matter what happens.
So if you were (are?) in Ohio, would you vote for this guy? I'm in Ohio. I'm not being swayed yet. Is he Glenn Beck never-Trumper "sorry I was wrong, I'm man enough to admit it" or is he "I need Trump so I'ma lie to get his endorsement" sorry? Interested in your personal opinion.
Actually im in Alaska. When Kelly Tshibaka came out to run against Lisa Murkowski, our first instinct was who is this chick. So we did some digging and found out that she had spent some time in DC, a red flag of course, but still we reached out to her to get her to come to our town and meet and greet people. She was not only approachable but we had a small prayer gathering with her devoid of politics and really got a chance to meet her. The reason I say all this is she was transparent as all get out and very forthright about her intentions and was not afraid to admit her mistakes and discuss the places she had been and why she was now where she is. My take is that if JD Vance is truly "reformed" to seeing the truth of what is going on and is for a lack of a better term repentant of prior mistakes then he should be not only open to accountability but really have a desire to be open about whats led him to seeing the light. I feel I must give people a chance to change because ive been through things in my life that required second chances and I'd be nowhere without those chances, God as my witness.
I know that, especially Ohio being much larger the chances of just picking up a phone and calling the guy or even hope to have an email returned is slim to none. It would be nice to think our representatives could be so available, so we're left sometimes with only one path; Discernment. look for body language intelligence, does he use canned responses when he talks? Is he always hitting the right talking points or is he more off the cuff and like Trump speaks his mind without some kind of script behind him. Like would you feel like you were getting a straight answer when you talked to him as if you were in front of him. That tells me alot about a person. How genuine do you think he is, is what it really comes down to. I'll admit I dont know much about JD Vance but as we all know there are many snakes in the grass attempting to ride in on DJT's good graces, he truly is a king maker right now.
One thought I had was this its kind of a law of averages deal, if we get enough truly America first candidates elected, for those snakes there, will they be so strong to go against the grain in a den of lions? Its like looking at the left and how they invariably always vote together with rare exception. The only chance the left has is if the numbers are close enough that they can hope to get a few traitors on their side to sneak something through as collins and murkowski have shown, but if the numbers are wholly stacked against them with no hope of overcoming a serious republican majority it would take an incredible amount of rino traitors to betray to have our process fail, you see where im going? basically Would JD Vance politically risk himself to out himself and brand himself traitor in a massive republican majority only to see his career go down in flames in two years.
So he could be a snake, but will he show his skin or go along to get along. Thats where attempting to discern his intention resides, what will he do when the chips are down. I'd like to trust any one of them but I never will. Hell i dont even trust people at my local level that Ive known for years, because once those politics come into play it has a tendency to do something to people. Especially at higher levels. If you have access to either his recent voting record or some kind of insight into decisions that he is publicly making that may give you some insight into what level of growth he has accomplished. But also ill just say this, that was some deep seeded BS he said there. His "Elite-ism" reeked. Basically casting all white Americans as morons, which to me anyone who brings up race at all is truly the racist because if your not you see no color. But we can change.
I would vote for him only under 2 conditions, 1) He actually is reformed and on board with MAGA or 2) If he is not not strong enough to buck the tide and risk his career on making policy or voting against MAGA, (because if he is strong and has the balls to go against the grain thats where we run into trouble) kind of a lead, follow or get the hell out of the way scenario. Thats why the demoncrats have been somewhat successful, the ones with the guts to kill America are strong or severally compromised enough that they dont give a damn, or the others are too weak to stand up and go against the grain. Very hard place to be.
Sorry for the long wall of text, I just didnt want to water down a reply, I wanted to give good attention to the question you were asking. I hope I didnt disappoint. Feel free to shoot back any questions if you got any, im always available. I lurk more than I post. I very much love the insight I gain here. And finally thanks for being a patriot and loving our country. Its priceless and we are doing the right thing.
Peace Fren
wow incredible response, thank you so much! I have a lot of digging to do still on Vance. People do change. Fortunately, Vance being a successful writer, there should be plenty of interviews out there I can watch and apply that discernment. <3
Yeah he is young enough that maybe he just bought the bullshit back then and now has changed his mind.
I used to think i knew politics, and believed the news was at least somewhat news. It wasnt until almost a year into his term that i really started to see how bad the lies were. And how great Trump actually was and is.
I was a never-Trumper in 2016 also. I'm not going to be a hypocrite and attack JD for having the same viewpoint I had in 2016.
And although I think only about 9% of black people voted for Trump in 2016, that has changed dramatically, and JD's analysis in 2016 is different than it is in 2022.
For example in today's Rasmussen:
Biden Total Approve
white: 38%
Black 62%
Now that is a big difference, but nothing like what it was in 2016.
Turns out that maybe the DS having such overarching control of the narrative via Twitter might not have been a good thing for Them for all these years...
If we kick everyone out of MAGA who, at one point in time, thought President Trump is Satan's evil transgender brother, MAGA would be very small. The consensus building was very intense and lots of people outsourced their thinking.
If MAGA was only supposed to include the early adopter true believers, then we would not need a Great Awakening.
I never thought that about Trump. I never watched his show, though, it was not my cup of tea. But I remember many times hearing him on the radio saying "I should run for president" and I never had a negative reaction to that. Or a positive one either. I am from a time when Ross Perot ran and I guess I thought Trump would be like that - maybe good for the country but would not win. Even on election night, after voting for Trump, I thought I would wake up to a Hillary presidency and it upset me because I feared for our country in her hands. "I want Trump to win but I know it's not going to happen." I voted for him anyway, against the odds. I stayed up all damn night waiting for the outcome anyway, even though I personally thought there was a slim-to-none chance for Trump.
And my celebration of his win was HUGE. I woke my entire household up in the middle of the night to deliver the news!
I think a lot of people admired Trump until he ran for office.
I have no problem allowing those people into our movement, and welcome them. I do have a problem with electing them to be our leaders. These people who change their minds like that can’t be trusted in positions of power imo.
IDIOT. in the 2016 election, pew had a break down of votes..... which has since disappeared.
every demographic was split 50/50 EXCEPT the high school or less educated. 95% of those who were black, voted blue, and 95% of those who were white, voted red. (%'s are from memory so i may be off by 1 or 2). the fact that it disappeared rapidly tells me it was likely accurate.
female phd here-- voted for trump. as did 1/2 the phds ....
let's pretend ppl all vote for the same reasons and are swayed by the same arguments. then create a fairy tale.
This is a primary ill be voting in. Can anyone make sense of this for me? Trump did endorse this guy so im split on whether this is some 4D chess endorsement move or the guy really has changed his position, is 110% MAGA and vetted by Trump.
I'll be voting too. I WAS going to vote for Mandel until he said he would support a no-fly zone in Ukraine. That was a red flag for me. Timken is a globalist RINO who never had my support. She wouldn't condemn Anthony Gonzales for his impeachment vote and also is not squeaky clean regarding the Ohio RNC finances. Gibbons was completely scratched off my list when he said middle class were not paying enough taxes. I know several people who were skeptical of Trump in 2016 that now strongly support him. I pray Vance is genuinely one of them.
Mandel ran for something in previous years and I remember his opponent put something out about him (I can't for the life of me remember what it was, but I think it involved him hiring his friends and trying to just live off government paychecks as a career - which means not interested in actual public service for the sake of public service, again - I can't really recall). So Mandel is and always has been NOT an option. But he is ex-military, and I do love the military ... every shiny coin seems to have a dark flipside unfortunately.
A lot of people woke up since 2016. I was always based so Trump win was huge kek for me because of big fu to establishment but I wasn't sure about Trump's abilities back then..
To be fair, a lot of people had questions about Trump in the beginning who have turned into ardent supporters. Could JD Vance be one of these? Trump had to have known all this past. Why would he endorse Vance? I honestly was expecting Trump to endorse either Mandel or Gibbons.
Mandel is, to me, a wolf in sheep's clothing. I don't know anything about Gibbons. Trump has skipped endorsements altogether before, why is he endorsing Vance? I'm really on the fence about the guy. I guess I expected no endorsement at all in this case, this endorsement actually makes it harder for me. I would have voted Gibbons most likely. I am going to be watching the Trump rally in Delaware County tomorrow night to see who speaks and if they are sincere or not. Hoping Vance is there to speak so I can judge for myself.
He had a town hall on Newsmax the other night. He was asked directly about this, and his LOVE for Romm Mittney, He took it like a MAN and admitted he was wrong.
He answered questions WITH REAL ANSWERS, not political speak. I was as impressed with him as I have been ANY politician in 30 years.
In fairness, I only watched until the first commercial break. But he didn't duck a single issue. He took an absolute (MAGA) stance everything asked of him.
Was a little disappointed the next morning after a search of GAW, that nobody here was talking about it. I really wanted to hear other Buckeyes opinions.
Again, I was impressed. Not sold, but I will continue to watch him.
THANK YOU!!! Our (Ohio) primary is less than 2 weeks and I was trying to wrap my head around why Trump endorsed this guy. As a hillbilly originally from Tennessee, I liked what I read of his book 'Hillbilly Elegy' and I empathize with his Hillbilly Heroin (mom's) background, BUT his double speak (talking out both sides of his mouth) has been his undoing and I personally cannot fathom why Pres. Trump endorsed him. I was on the fence of who to vote for, and it's not gonna be this guy.
I thought, maybe he's like Glenn Beck and had a come to Jesus moment re: Trump, the "I admit I was wrong as wrong can be" moment. Beck's apology seems legit. This guy, even without the apology, EVEN without the Trump "he's an idiot" slur, seems to be on the wrong side of me.
He said later on he realized what President Trump has been doing and changed his stance on President Trump. Just like Jenna Ellis but yeah who knows if this is true or not.
Trump's endorsement shocked some political observers, particularly since Vance had previously lambasted Trump's style, substance, and effect on American society.
"I go back and forth between thinking Trump is a cynical asshole like Nixon who wouldn't be that bad (and might even prove useful) or that he's America's Hitler," Vance reportedly wrote in a 2016 Facebook message.
"Trump makes people I care about afraid. Immigrants, Muslims, etc. Because of this I find him reprehensible. God wants better of us," Vance said in an October 2016 tweet.
Vance has since expressed regret for his fleeting never-Trumpism.
"Like a lot of people, I criticized Trump back in 2016," Vance said during an interview on Fox News in July. "And I ask folks not to judge me based on what I said in 2016, because I've been very open that I did say those critical things and I regret them, and I regret being wrong about the guy."
There were a lot of impolite things being said in 2016, particularly about Trump. Hell, look up some old quotes from Lindsey Graham, Ted Cruz, Mitch McC, etc.
As another, more wise, pede pointed out I'm now convinced that Trump's "endorsement" of Vance and Oz isn't an endorsement at all. He's shining a light on the cockroaches and allowing us to dig into their history as they scurry for cover. It's then up to us to play political whack-a-mole and vote them out everywhere we find them. Trump isn't draining the swamp on his own, it's on ALL of us. We have to do our part. That's how we win: Together.
Reads like liberal talking points. But that is what everyone should expect from someone who has been a venture capitalist in San Fran and a book writer. Book deals and all.
No one in Ohio vote for this guy. RINO in the making.
Wrong fucking Party to be comparing to Hitler. We have got to be more effective at explaining this to the People. It really chaps my ass to hear or see when they compare Conservatism to National Socialism.
The stormfags and/or glowies are trying their best to make that narrative fit this website. It's an around the clock operation. Anyone with even a passing familiarity with history should know American conservatism and national socialism are diametrically opposed worldviews.
Benjamin Franklin called the Jews (Any participating race), "Vampires". He was correct. The system these people are in (Judaism) is the same as Pharisaism, Babylonism and Baal. The Lord called them children of Satan.
He was right. There is nothing they won't suck if a Shekel might fall out of it.
True.
Nat Soc
Oppose communism/liberalism
Oppose LGBT
Oppose immigrants sucking the country dry
Oppose foreign influence of big banks and debt usury
Value hard work, the family and country
Encourage citizens to be healthy
Favor Christianity over other religions
Demand legal action against false news articles
Yeah bro, totally the opposite
Tell that to the millions of families separated by and enslaved for the German Nazi regime.
Hitler asked the communists (Jews) to leave and they wouldn't so he threw them in labor camps. He also had their pornography materials burned. Yea that was the famous book burning.
Welfare sucking immigrants? Commies? I feel so bad for them 😫
Many people tend to just see the word "socialism" and focus on that. 🤷♀️
Joined 119 days ago, almost all comments within the last seven hours.
Deport, block and move on, folks.
Nice summary. Let me flesh it out a bit.
Oppose communism, but copy their tactics.
Oppose LGBT, but promote perversion in secret for the chosen elite.
Oppose immigrants sucking the country dry, and oppose anyone else in the country who threatens the centralization of power.
Oppose foreign influence of big banks and debt usury, while stealing the assets and wealth of other nations and peoples.
Value hard work, the family and country, as an ideology, as long as it all confirms to absolutism of the centralization of power.
Encourage citizens to be healthy in the body, while undermining their mental and spiritual well being via propaganda and brainwashing.
Favor Christianity over other religions, as long as it serves the propaganda goals and helps to centralize power, but never act in a Christian way when it contradicts the ultimate agenda of self-idolization.
Demand legal action against false news articles from the opposition, while publishing propaganda.
That is like the left wing commies want everyone to be tolerant of their views, but they don't want to be tolerant of any one else's views; and they can surely change the meaning of words quickly and forcefully. They make me ill just thinking about them.
Most of what you've been taught about history is an even bigger lie than current news and politics.
If anyone compares the right to Nazis, ask them to explain how small government conservatives would fall down the slippery slope into big government authoritarianism. They'll start talking stupid while you laugh at them.
This is so close to how lefties think that I almost thought it was serious for a split second.
WAIT - I thought we were supposed to be supporting Nazis these days. I'm really confused now....
He's not comparing the party tho. He's comparing geotus to another populist. It's why Bernie was geotus' only real competition until the dnc did what they always do.
Let's be fair...this text message was from 2016.
I won't be a hypocrite and claim that I was pro Trump when he was first elected. I mean, I was delighted that HRC was defeated, but I was highly skeptical of Trump and I was a bit disappointed that he was the Republican candidate. I saw his election a not much more than an FU to the establishment, and I was worried about the long-term outcome.
I was proven very wrong and he won me over. I am a huge Trump fan now because he proved to me that he wanted nothing more than to make America great, and he showed that he truly loves the American people and would put himself in the crossfire time and again for our best interests.
People have a right to change their minds. My only question is if JD Vance's partnership with Trump right now is genuine.
I'm with you and totally understand. I did not vote in 16 (my shame) because I was so over politics at that point because of the years of lies and evil I knew we'd been suffering. I honestly figured we were hopeless at the time. Trump was elected and my thought was "this will be interesting" I too hated HRC and was happy anyone but her had one. Then DJT pulled us out of the TPP and I was shocked awake again in an instant. I remember freaking out to my wife about it because I knew it was one of their pet projects. From that moment I began digging into all things trump, outside his reality show stuff. Then I immediately found Q and away we went. Suffice it to say I have been re-awakened with a hope unbridled. My faith has been restored for this world actually not just our nation. God gave us a chance at redemption and the simple fact we even have a chance was enough to change my life forever. A glimmer of light in a darkness I had been living through for almost my whole life. I will go to Jesus one day thankful for even the hope. No matter what happens.
So if you were (are?) in Ohio, would you vote for this guy? I'm in Ohio. I'm not being swayed yet. Is he Glenn Beck never-Trumper "sorry I was wrong, I'm man enough to admit it" or is he "I need Trump so I'ma lie to get his endorsement" sorry? Interested in your personal opinion.
Actually im in Alaska. When Kelly Tshibaka came out to run against Lisa Murkowski, our first instinct was who is this chick. So we did some digging and found out that she had spent some time in DC, a red flag of course, but still we reached out to her to get her to come to our town and meet and greet people. She was not only approachable but we had a small prayer gathering with her devoid of politics and really got a chance to meet her. The reason I say all this is she was transparent as all get out and very forthright about her intentions and was not afraid to admit her mistakes and discuss the places she had been and why she was now where she is. My take is that if JD Vance is truly "reformed" to seeing the truth of what is going on and is for a lack of a better term repentant of prior mistakes then he should be not only open to accountability but really have a desire to be open about whats led him to seeing the light. I feel I must give people a chance to change because ive been through things in my life that required second chances and I'd be nowhere without those chances, God as my witness. I know that, especially Ohio being much larger the chances of just picking up a phone and calling the guy or even hope to have an email returned is slim to none. It would be nice to think our representatives could be so available, so we're left sometimes with only one path; Discernment. look for body language intelligence, does he use canned responses when he talks? Is he always hitting the right talking points or is he more off the cuff and like Trump speaks his mind without some kind of script behind him. Like would you feel like you were getting a straight answer when you talked to him as if you were in front of him. That tells me alot about a person. How genuine do you think he is, is what it really comes down to. I'll admit I dont know much about JD Vance but as we all know there are many snakes in the grass attempting to ride in on DJT's good graces, he truly is a king maker right now. One thought I had was this its kind of a law of averages deal, if we get enough truly America first candidates elected, for those snakes there, will they be so strong to go against the grain in a den of lions? Its like looking at the left and how they invariably always vote together with rare exception. The only chance the left has is if the numbers are close enough that they can hope to get a few traitors on their side to sneak something through as collins and murkowski have shown, but if the numbers are wholly stacked against them with no hope of overcoming a serious republican majority it would take an incredible amount of rino traitors to betray to have our process fail, you see where im going? basically Would JD Vance politically risk himself to out himself and brand himself traitor in a massive republican majority only to see his career go down in flames in two years. So he could be a snake, but will he show his skin or go along to get along. Thats where attempting to discern his intention resides, what will he do when the chips are down. I'd like to trust any one of them but I never will. Hell i dont even trust people at my local level that Ive known for years, because once those politics come into play it has a tendency to do something to people. Especially at higher levels. If you have access to either his recent voting record or some kind of insight into decisions that he is publicly making that may give you some insight into what level of growth he has accomplished. But also ill just say this, that was some deep seeded BS he said there. His "Elite-ism" reeked. Basically casting all white Americans as morons, which to me anyone who brings up race at all is truly the racist because if your not you see no color. But we can change. I would vote for him only under 2 conditions, 1) He actually is reformed and on board with MAGA or 2) If he is not not strong enough to buck the tide and risk his career on making policy or voting against MAGA, (because if he is strong and has the balls to go against the grain thats where we run into trouble) kind of a lead, follow or get the hell out of the way scenario. Thats why the demoncrats have been somewhat successful, the ones with the guts to kill America are strong or severally compromised enough that they dont give a damn, or the others are too weak to stand up and go against the grain. Very hard place to be. Sorry for the long wall of text, I just didnt want to water down a reply, I wanted to give good attention to the question you were asking. I hope I didnt disappoint. Feel free to shoot back any questions if you got any, im always available. I lurk more than I post. I very much love the insight I gain here. And finally thanks for being a patriot and loving our country. Its priceless and we are doing the right thing. Peace Fren
wow incredible response, thank you so much! I have a lot of digging to do still on Vance. People do change. Fortunately, Vance being a successful writer, there should be plenty of interviews out there I can watch and apply that discernment. <3
Yeah he is young enough that maybe he just bought the bullshit back then and now has changed his mind.
I used to think i knew politics, and believed the news was at least somewhat news. It wasnt until almost a year into his term that i really started to see how bad the lies were. And how great Trump actually was and is.
Are you a fellow reformed Bernie Bro??
I liked him better than HRC, and would have taken him over her, but then I've hated the Clintons for decades.
As noted, I was skeptical of Trump and hated Hillary, so I voted libertarian back then (Gary Johnson).
I voted Green in 16... lol
Did you want the Rat or the Turtle instead? lmao.
So, let me get this straight...
America's "Hitler" bad.
Ukraine's Hitler good.
I was a never-Trumper in 2016 also. I'm not going to be a hypocrite and attack JD for having the same viewpoint I had in 2016.
And although I think only about 9% of black people voted for Trump in 2016, that has changed dramatically, and JD's analysis in 2016 is different than it is in 2022.
For example in today's Rasmussen:
Biden Total Approve
white: 38%
Black 62%
Now that is a big difference, but nothing like what it was in 2016.
Turns out that maybe the DS having such overarching control of the narrative via Twitter might not have been a good thing for Them for all these years...
@jack it's a trap
Relevant - posted minutes ago
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If we kick everyone out of MAGA who, at one point in time, thought President Trump is Satan's evil transgender brother, MAGA would be very small. The consensus building was very intense and lots of people outsourced their thinking.
If MAGA was only supposed to include the early adopter true believers, then we would not need a Great Awakening.
I never thought that about Trump. I never watched his show, though, it was not my cup of tea. But I remember many times hearing him on the radio saying "I should run for president" and I never had a negative reaction to that. Or a positive one either. I am from a time when Ross Perot ran and I guess I thought Trump would be like that - maybe good for the country but would not win. Even on election night, after voting for Trump, I thought I would wake up to a Hillary presidency and it upset me because I feared for our country in her hands. "I want Trump to win but I know it's not going to happen." I voted for him anyway, against the odds. I stayed up all damn night waiting for the outcome anyway, even though I personally thought there was a slim-to-none chance for Trump.
And my celebration of his win was HUGE. I woke my entire household up in the middle of the night to deliver the news!
I think a lot of people admired Trump until he ran for office.
I have no problem allowing those people into our movement, and welcome them. I do have a problem with electing them to be our leaders. These people who change their minds like that can’t be trusted in positions of power imo.
As an ex-leftist, this is a fair take.
But trust is hard to repair once broken.
IDIOT. in the 2016 election, pew had a break down of votes..... which has since disappeared.
every demographic was split 50/50 EXCEPT the high school or less educated. 95% of those who were black, voted blue, and 95% of those who were white, voted red. (%'s are from memory so i may be off by 1 or 2). the fact that it disappeared rapidly tells me it was likely accurate.
female phd here-- voted for trump. as did 1/2 the phds ....
let's pretend ppl all vote for the same reasons and are swayed by the same arguments. then create a fairy tale.
This is a primary ill be voting in. Can anyone make sense of this for me? Trump did endorse this guy so im split on whether this is some 4D chess endorsement move or the guy really has changed his position, is 110% MAGA and vetted by Trump.
I think he senses the people are becoming complacent and wants anons to do research on all the candidates instead of picking the one he wants.
I think this is why he picked Vance for Ohio.
I'll be voting too. I WAS going to vote for Mandel until he said he would support a no-fly zone in Ukraine. That was a red flag for me. Timken is a globalist RINO who never had my support. She wouldn't condemn Anthony Gonzales for his impeachment vote and also is not squeaky clean regarding the Ohio RNC finances. Gibbons was completely scratched off my list when he said middle class were not paying enough taxes. I know several people who were skeptical of Trump in 2016 that now strongly support him. I pray Vance is genuinely one of them.
Mandel ran for something in previous years and I remember his opponent put something out about him (I can't for the life of me remember what it was, but I think it involved him hiring his friends and trying to just live off government paychecks as a career - which means not interested in actual public service for the sake of public service, again - I can't really recall). So Mandel is and always has been NOT an option. But he is ex-military, and I do love the military ... every shiny coin seems to have a dark flipside unfortunately.
i'm in ohio too and now very confused.
A lot of people woke up since 2016. I was always based so Trump win was huge kek for me because of big fu to establishment but I wasn't sure about Trump's abilities back then..
JD Vance is a wonderful guy who had a change of heart. You shouldn’t judge people for something they said 6 years ago.
After all, yes, Trump DID endorse him just recently for good reason. Trust Trump.
To be fair, a lot of people had questions about Trump in the beginning who have turned into ardent supporters. Could JD Vance be one of these? Trump had to have known all this past. Why would he endorse Vance? I honestly was expecting Trump to endorse either Mandel or Gibbons.
Mandel is, to me, a wolf in sheep's clothing. I don't know anything about Gibbons. Trump has skipped endorsements altogether before, why is he endorsing Vance? I'm really on the fence about the guy. I guess I expected no endorsement at all in this case, this endorsement actually makes it harder for me. I would have voted Gibbons most likely. I am going to be watching the Trump rally in Delaware County tomorrow night to see who speaks and if they are sincere or not. Hoping Vance is there to speak so I can judge for myself.
He had a town hall on Newsmax the other night. He was asked directly about this, and his LOVE for Romm Mittney, He took it like a MAN and admitted he was wrong.
He answered questions WITH REAL ANSWERS, not political speak. I was as impressed with him as I have been ANY politician in 30 years.
In fairness, I only watched until the first commercial break. But he didn't duck a single issue. He took an absolute (MAGA) stance everything asked of him.
Was a little disappointed the next morning after a search of GAW, that nobody here was talking about it. I really wanted to hear other Buckeyes opinions.
Again, I was impressed. Not sold, but I will continue to watch him.
THANK YOU!!! Our (Ohio) primary is less than 2 weeks and I was trying to wrap my head around why Trump endorsed this guy. As a hillbilly originally from Tennessee, I liked what I read of his book 'Hillbilly Elegy' and I empathize with his Hillbilly Heroin (mom's) background, BUT his double speak (talking out both sides of his mouth) has been his undoing and I personally cannot fathom why Pres. Trump endorsed him. I was on the fence of who to vote for, and it's not gonna be this guy.
I thought, maybe he's like Glenn Beck and had a come to Jesus moment re: Trump, the "I admit I was wrong as wrong can be" moment. Beck's apology seems legit. This guy, even without the apology, EVEN without the Trump "he's an idiot" slur, seems to be on the wrong side of me.
Archived Link:
https://archive.ph/fIi07
He said later on he realized what President Trump has been doing and changed his stance on President Trump. Just like Jenna Ellis but yeah who knows if this is true or not.
https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-jd-vance-senate-ohio-finance-2022-4
https://archive.ph/gZ1QI <---- Archived link to article above ^^
Trump endorsed him and Trump will be in Delaware Ohio tomorrow.
But did Trump really endorse him, or simply show us where to look?
Uh every millionaire I know votes Republican. Hasn’t this guy ever been on a golf course?
He is the perfect example of what happens when your "educators" are liberals.
Whistle Dixie, chump.
Lower-education… so he doesn’t represent his constituents? Sounds like democrat talking points. Controlled opposition.
There were a lot of impolite things being said in 2016, particularly about Trump. Hell, look up some old quotes from Lindsey Graham, Ted Cruz, Mitch McC, etc.
I'm still looking for those elusive 'working class black people'. Do you mean the black rioters and looters? lol Where do they hatch idiots like this?
As another, more wise, pede pointed out I'm now convinced that Trump's "endorsement" of Vance and Oz isn't an endorsement at all. He's shining a light on the cockroaches and allowing us to dig into their history as they scurry for cover. It's then up to us to play political whack-a-mole and vote them out everywhere we find them. Trump isn't draining the swamp on his own, it's on ALL of us. We have to do our part. That's how we win: Together.
Wow fuck this guy
Kamala has entered the chat: "Where do I find him?"
Long live independents!
I am confusion...Why is DJT and DJT JR stumping for this guy if he's a Faggot?
https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1518921684685889536?s=20&t=KefiWpCTe8ri8hUMf6P96g
Gross!!! What the hell is wrong with these fucks!?!? 😡
Reads like liberal talking points. But that is what everyone should expect from someone who has been a venture capitalist in San Fran and a book writer. Book deals and all.
No one in Ohio vote for this guy. RINO in the making.
I'm still looking for those elusive 'working class black people'. Do you mean the black rioters and looters? lol Where do they hatch idiots like this?
Fuck that Faggot. Uses the Hitler. Uses the uneducated...this guy is an ass sniffer. If he's jealous of the "educated" then he's a fucking retard