How many of you knew this?...
Every single patent Musk came up with for his Tesla operation...HE OPEN SOURCED THE PATENTS......
OPEN SOURCE...
........In that, HE DOES NOT OWN THEM. They are PUBLIC.
THIS is the guy that just bought Twitter.
You know what? If he says he's gonna open source Twitter, I am leaning towards believing him.
Patents are always open source, pretty much by definition. "This is how I do revolutionary technology XYZ, and no one else can do this while I hold the patent."
What Musk did was he allowed anyone to use his parents free of charge. Normally if you own a patent you either prevent others from doing the same thing, or you make them pay you a fee for using your patented technology.
Musk challenged the automakers to make electric cars better than he can. It's not completely altruistic, because if other automakers start making electric cars, that normalizes electric cars in society which means more Tesla sales, more charging stations, etc.
First 1/2 of your comment is not accurate as that is not what open source means. This does a reasonable job of explaining it:
https://opensource.com/resources/what-open-source
Open source is rooted in software. Long story short Software developers got greedy and wanted to make money off of their development and work Also I've multaneously been able to Sue anyone for using their work.. The problem is software programming is mathematics and therefore not copyright able.
Through various loopholes software developers figured out that they could manipulate the patent system and patent their software, which is technically still not lawful but long story short there you go.
The open source movement as a whole was a kind of a poison pill against against the abuse of the patent system.
To Achieve part of This was Utilizing Open licensing, which was The center part of protecting free open source software. It actually made it illegal for people to try and hide the programming code from others. Contrary to what Microsoft wants you to believe, open source software is actually much more secure because you have lots of eyes on it to help find Security holes and plug them.
Shouldn't our voting be done on blockchain with open source code so we can keep an eye on what they are doing
This right here ^^ .. USPS filed a patent in late 2018 to do exactly this. Once the normies all become aware of the depth of fraud in our current election system there will be a lot more support for rolling this type of system out.
Problem is most people dont understand blockchain and when they hear the word they just think bitcoin which they also dont understand and because of lack of understanding they think its some sort of scam. They dont trust it. They hear horror stories of exchanges "getting hacked" and peoples money disappearing and think its the fault of the underlying tech vs the other systems and people around it.
Good news is more and more people are coming to understand and therefore trust the tech
The vote should be anonymous, but you should need to prove your identity, and also need to dip your finger in that light purple ink.
My idea is to have the US government issued Social Security Number serve as the anonymous identity. in Blockchain terms the SSN would be the public wallet ID. At the beginning of each election every SSN would receive 1 "coin" aka VOTE. the blockchain app would allow people to select their candidate and it would be immutable and verifiable.
This would serve to maintain anonymity, and ensure only citizens get to vote. Edit: after thinking this over, i see a few issues.. employers know SSNs, and what would stop Dems from grabbing SSN's from dead people? there would need to be another layer of obfuscation added involving SSN, but the blockchain addresses couldnt be the SSN themselves. Edit2: these are minor issues that can be addressed. setup correctly anybody could go back and confirm their vote was counted for the candidate they intended, and see every other vote in anonymous form within the blockchain - which is always publicly accessible. back to the bitcoin example: every time anybody has transferred any bitcoin to another is visible today within the blockchain ledger.. made anonymous because it only shows wallet id's that consist of random letters and numbers. Only the exchanges that convert them to Dollars know who belongs to those wallet ID's. a wise bitcoin user can obfuscate beyond this but i wont detail the process here.
We ideally shouldn't have a social security number. The federal government should regulate trade with other countries and protect our borders, that's pretty much it.
IMO, voting should be paper in person one day to minimize cheating. Florida was a good example. They were accurate and done early.
IF it is digital in any way, FOSS is the way to go. Allows you to keep an eye on the software yet keep it incredibly safe.
In theory, it would work great.
The weak point is in the human interface factors.
Paper. Votes need to be paper.
I was using OP's verbiage, "open source."
But to have a patent, you must specify what it is you are patenting. Patents we're originally created to protect cooking recipes, so to do that, you would have to disclose the recipe and then no one else can use it until the patent expires.
This is why companies like Coca-Cola do not file for patents. Instead their recipe is a trade secret which they don't have to disclose to anyone.
The idea behind Linux has always been copyleft. Go ahead and take what I did and repurpose it, just give me credit for the original.
Not always, of course this is just hearsay, but USPTO will/does hide certain patents. Examples would be extreme alt technologies, military importance etc.
That's different. That's classified technology.
Each patent only lasts 10 years before it become open source. You have to file (lots of money to file). After that, the secrecy only last 10 years before they publish.
I do believe that the period depends on the specific field the patent is in.
Aka it's not always 10 years. In some cases, 20, 25 etc.
I know of a patent that an pil company has that is almost 100 years old.
It allows for cheap energy. Not free but much cheaper and we could stop using gas powered vehicles. No charging stations for cars only mechanical repairs to the two.motors.
Patent system is horrible and must be bkockchained to get the government t out of it. They control too much through it.
What patent is that?
Agree.
You could be right. I only know about medical stuff.
How does Disney get away with keeping rights for decades old characters, many of whom were already in public domain for centuries?
Because frens here do not know patent law.
Certain patents last 14 years, others 20, etc. The problem I holder's didn't believe it was long enough for the originator to exploit the monopoly.
Eventually the law was changed so you could file extensions. Then it was more extensions.
Mickey isn't covered by a patent, but by copyright, which also had a limit. But the music and movie industries decided to fight for copyright extensions. Long story short it is life of author + extra. If it is a patent or copyright created by a corp.Corp., it gets even weirder. Copyright is 95 years + extensions.
THEN, it depends on when you put either in place, as you are grandfathered in and follow those rules.
All this to say, the original Mickey copyright has expired, but others have not.
Trademarks and copyrights are not necessarily the same thing as a patent.
They are copyrights and trademarks, different rules.
This is not patent related. It is copyright related.
Copyright normally extends some 25 years beyond the death of an author/creator.
It is likely that Disney trademarked the characters, which is a way of establishing intellectual property rights in this case. Trademarks do not expire automatically, unlike copyright or patents.
As far as I know....
Copyright is rewritten by Disney. Patent is physical stuff, Vopyrightus drawn and written stuff.
There is no secrecy when you file for a patent. That becomes a public record. And if anyone uses what you've patented while the patent is in force, you can sue them and win in court.
If what you patented was kept secret, then that wouldn't do anything to dissuade others from using that technology.
Wish this was the case, I'd like to see some of Nikola Tesla's patents. The cabal/DS hid those.
Wow. I didn't trust him to begin with but leaning toward trust now.
Well go look at the pics of Musk with Maxwell...
Trump used to hang with Epstein also. People can change.
Just wanting to make sure you don't believe GEOTUS once was fine with what Epstein was convicted of.
Nothing changed....many didn't know about what Epstein was doing behind the scenes.
Many knew exactly what Epstein, and Weinstein, etc...were doing but looked the other way. GEOTUS did not, he kicked Epstein out.
I had my picture taken with Ted Cruz. Does that make me an accomplice to the zodiac killer?
Not only does it make you an accomplice, it makes you thee Zodiac Killer. Surprise! /s
fuck me!
Yea
Or people can be used. Musk is no hero. He's just useful.
I was told someone could be holding a gun to his head. LOL
He’s African American. That would not be surprising!
When you go to a party, you don't necessarily like or have a personal friendship with everyone there do you? I know I don't. Trump is in pics with her also - out at social events where there are lots of people.... I think it should require more than pictures at social events to write someone off as "bad".
Is it because tesla is taxpayer subsidized?
I did hear this years back. His reasoning behind it was that not doing so and keeping your advancements to yourself was counterproductive for the progress of technology and thus civilization. Everything I've seen from Musk indicates that he truly wants nothing more than to see humanity advance, survive and thrive. All according to his personal definition these things, of course.
I personally would like to see our civilization take a step back from technology, reconnect with nature and simplify things in a massive way. Slow down. But that doesn't necessarily mean we should stop finding ways to ensure humanity survives in the event of a massive cataclysm on earth. Otherwise we're just waiting for the next ice age and the floods that follow, or something else to bring us right back to square one and we start again as hunter gatherers. Some may think that's the way it's meant to be, but eventually there will be an extinction level event like the Chicxulub impact and there won't be 2 humans left on the face of the earth let alone groups large enough to repopulate the planet.
There is evidence that we may have had advanced civilizations on earth in the distant past. These were wiped out and mankind ended up in the dark ages. The evidence that remains is being uncovered slowly and is still considered fringe archaeology. Cities and structures underwater in the med, off the coast of Japan and in the Waters off the Americas. It is interesting and means we need a way to start expanding the race off this planet and start colonizing other planets and solar systems. If we don't we are virtually guaranteed to repeat this cycle or become extinct.
Funny, I'm currently listening to Graham Hancock's "America Before" speech as I prepare to go to sleep.
https://youtu.be/GAccZ8eWhXo
"We're a species with amnesia"
Graham Hancock and Randall Carlson are my favourite discoveries of the past few years. Incredible. Undeniable.
The official narrative of mainstream archaeology is an absolute joke and was demolished by the discovery of Gobekli Tepe.
Nitpick for him: I don't think we have amnesia, I think we have a Satanic brain parasite. If Christ could come rid us of it, we'd be golden. Until then, were stuck in a tug-o-war.
That's Musk's line of thinking for colonizing Mars, in essence.
What does this mean?
It means he develops tech and doesn't sue others who try to use it, but encourages it.
I like it.
Patents are corporate ICBMs. The intention may be to secure and protect your IP, but this is hardly the case. It’s like climate change frens.
he literally made mrna machines for vaccine companies, you really thinks he gives a shit about you LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You literally just made the most ignorant comment of the day...I'll just leave this here...Smallpox, Polio, Measles, and the Mumps....
You know damn well there's a difference between actual vaccines that you listed and mRNA gmo mystery juice. Otherwise there would be no need for them to change the definition overnight.
Trying humour now...Still failing...
B-b-but muh Elon Musk is an evil nazi for defending free speech
Freeeeee speech is bad, because someone might say something I disagree with, which is by definition a triggering microaggression on their part.
And my automatic reflexive response to that is to be offended by the punishable offense committed by the offensive offender, of which he is guilty merely because I said so.
Reeeeeeee just say no to freeeeee speech!
Except for the supercharger…
I wonder how long after obtaining said patents he "open sourced" them?
That begs to question why even get patents to begin with, it's not a cheap process, especially for Elon/Tesla as I'm sure he doesn't have cheap lawyers/IP firm.
Because if you don't patent the tech, someone else will and then you can't use it.
Touche.
Instantly. They started the open use patents year's ago
I looked into these patents
Teslas patents were open sourced, with the stipulation that they be used "in good faith"
In legalese, this means anyone is allowed to use the technology as long as they are not in competition with Tesla. Any business in the same industry using them would be not "acting in good faith." Therefore any business in competition must pay to license the technology, or pay to develop their own.
So in reality, these patents are not open source. This is a PR move to keep people licking the dirt of Musk's shoes
He is also making mini-factories to 3d print mrna vaccines. Do not trust the guy at all. Nor should anyone else here.
Why would you 3D print a vaccine? It's a fucking liquid bro.
Gosh not if you freeze it first before it transitions, BIGOT!
You're responsible for my loudest laugh of the day.
Reputable source please on that.
https://electrek.co/2020/11/10/elon-musk-tesla-rna-vaccine-printer-curevac-important-product-world/
https://electrek.co/2020/07/03/tesla-joint-patent-curevac-revolutionary-bioreactor-for-rna/
The greatest weapon is always simultaneously the greatest tool, thanks God.
You should remember that.
-God probably
That's a bold statement to make....Any proof???....Sauce???...If not then I'm afraid it's just your opinion....
Apartheid gets a bad rap. I’ll just point out that South Africa was a much more stable country, and blacks were much better off, before they came to power.
FFS...Another person who falls for the "Apartheid slave" narrative...Come to South Africa and stay for a while. try to find out the truth(You know what you know from the MSM)...Because you're unfortunately lacking that when it comes to The Apartheid Narrative that the entire world fell for and is still falling for...Those poor Apartheid slaves have stolen $94 Billion from the mouths of the rest of the Apartheid slaves while living in Complete luxury...Don't try to lecture me on "Apartheid slaves"...If it wasn't for the whites, this Country would be in COMPLETE chaos...believe it or not even the "slaves" admit that life was 100 times better under "Apartheid"...They had jobs, food, homes...The crime was dealt with...i can go on and on...Elon Musk may have come from wealth but that doesn't mean he DIDNT work for his success....End of Comment
No apology is needed...I just get pissed off when I hear about How bad us whites were to the poor blacks under Apartheid from People who don't have any idea what happened to this Country...We used to be the Powerhouse of Africa...Now we're the Shithouse of Africa....AS for Families making money from the mines...There are plenty of Wealthy families who became rich from setting up and owning Mines...landowners who turned Dust into paradise and fed most of Africa...The Majority of Which BOUGHT the land...NOT stole the land as you hear...We have been told that we(the Whites) are land thieves and must give back the land...We Bought the land and turned it into what is today.....Since 1994 over 7500 Farmers and their families have been brutally tortured and murdered at the hands of these "Poor apartheid slaves"...I won't go into detail as it's Horrific and Savage....For fucking Years "people" never had a word to say about Elon...NOW he's suddenly SATAN in their eyes...Why is that?.... I'm just tired of the ignorance and BS that goes around...Don't judge lest you be judged...It's that simple...IMO Elon is a stand-up, and intelligent business person who thinks about the future and has his way of conveying that...Just like President Trump....They broke the moulds when they were made...
Apologies if I came across as being rude and abrupt...it wasn't meant personally...I'm just tired of the BS...We have had "Democracy" for 28 fucking years and the Country gets more and more fucked by the day...Can't say anything otherwise, we're RACISTS...The things we humans do to each other are disgusting! Do you know how many times in my prayers I've asked GOD to just come down and wipe the human race off the face of the planet and start again because we don't deserve to be here and what he gave us.... edit: Again apologies for the rant....its just one of those days....
Wow dude, talk about "trust the experts".
You need to get right with God.
I'm pretty sure he's trolling with that comment.
His psychic told him they were in good standing. It's coo.