From an objective perspective, Trump gave the scientists a kick up the arse and removed loads of red tape in order to get these 'vaccines' ready in record time.
Could anyone objectively say he knew they would cause so many health issues before they were even tested, especially when Pfizer and Co. hid all the data?
I'm not saying he didn't know, he might have, but try proving it.
However, once adverse effects/deaths started being reported - who covered it up and continued to push that shit into people - who threatened people's jobs and withheld medical treatments etc.?
Yes, Trump will take some flack, but it will bounce of and boomerang right into their faces, again. They don't seem to learn, do they?
Edit: I've believed all along that Trump knew this would be something they'd try to do, hence why he has never denounced the jabs officially (much to a lot of people's consternation).
Well I clearly remember Trump also heavily pushed the vaccines once they were rolling out, as them being very very important. He even publicly shamed his own voters who were hesitant about it. Yes a good part of his MAGA base, especially the elderly, clearly were further assured by Trump's endorsement to get the shot.
Unless he's a total sociopath, he simply doesn't know and shouldn't speak on medical related issues as a non professional, no matter what people expect of a President. He goes on what his health advisors were briefing him on. Why else would he reverse course 180 deg from his anti-vax tweets years back?
At the very beginning - before they had a vaccine ready. Remember? Then the libs pounced on him claiming he was recommending people drink fish tank cleaner. He also was talking about light therapy and they made him out to be a quack (despite the fact that we know certain light frequencies kill viruses).
Exactly right, he mentioned HCQ and Ivermectin along with the possibility of using UV light (which has been trialled and used at Mount Sinai hospital) and blood cleaning (meaning monoclonal's) and the MSM turned it into bleach/fish tank cleaner. IIRC it was in the very early days during the "Covid task force" with Fauchi and Birx on stage along with Trump.
The mention of HCQ and Ivermectin is what gave many us the hint to start digging on it, I then heard a Dr on Fox talk about how he saved an elderly patient on his death bed with CV19 and had only hours to live, so he gave him Ivermectin and only hours later the patient was up and out of bed.
I think Trump was just trying to "fix Covid" in his mind. When I look back, it was clear he was promoting basically whatever could possibly work as a treatment. He's not an MD, so logically, he was having to follow the advice of his "advisors" (the serpent Fauci, et. al). Anyway, so he was for any and all treatments that would eliminate Covid and not interfere with the election imho.
However, Fauci and team (who were already primed to roll-out the Moderna vax (remember they already SHIPPED the vaccines back in Feb '20 to trial sites so they were waiting in the wings...also Fauci was getting major $ from Moderna) began their assault on alternative therapies so as to get the Emergency Use Authorization of their already ready-to-go mRNA vaccine. *** Remember - the only way to get EUA is for there to be no other alternative treatments. ***
So, thus began the outright campaign against HCQ, Ivermectin, monoclonal antibodies, etc.
Anyway - Trump was again, deferring to his advisors, so he likely was TOLD vaccines were the best option to get out of the Covid mess. He looped-in the Department of Defense who assisted with the roll-out of the vaccines. In terms of Fast-tracking it - that was not something Trump was really involved in - that again came down to the EUA which allows for the use of experimental therapies in the face of a national emergency (or whatever we we're officially in - I can't remember what it's called but I believe we're still officially under one...).
So that's my take on it. I think Trump was "pushing" the vaccines in that he really, perhaps naively believed they were a good option. However he always stated they shouldn't be mandated. He did at times say one should take them - but I think that was just him being really mistaken and misled.
Yes, Trump asked for a VACCINE but that's not what big pHARMa gave everyone. They gave us an experimental mRNA concoction. Not even close to a 'traditional vaccine'. This will, I believe, and should backfire on these liberal clowns always trying to blame Trump for THEIR mistakes and wrongdoings.
Now is the time for Trump to actually point out what he asked for and what they actually provided. This could bring down the entire pHARMa industry..and I hope it does.
Yes he is responsible for rushing these deadly vaccines and promoting them but the theory is the alternative was much worse. He's going to have to prove that in court and to the world population
One thing i couldn't understand about any of this: cars lined up for over a mile to drive through a covid tent to get another shot. A shot given by an unknown person, employed by whomever, a person who knows nothing about the patient history at all. No doctor's orders, nothing. Just drive up and stick your arm out the window. Crazy, I tell you.
People have ZERO idea what's in that vial of "Covid vax".
You could set up a U-Haul van in a parking lot with a tent and sign, offering free doughnuts and coffee with each injection... and then inject people with arsenic, liquid mercury and ammonia. Even if every vial is clearly labeled with the deadly ingredients... nobody will even read the label. If the people in the tent are wearing white lab coats and masks... then it looks official enough.
If you hand each person an information card saying that this "vaccine" will ruin your health or kill you... nobody will even read the information card. Hundreds of lemmings will line up for their injection, then get a free doughnut and cup of coffee. That's where we are.
Not surprised. I really want to see how Trump responds to this. It may lend answers as to why he promoted so heavily to begin with. He can now expose Big P(harm)a for the snake oil conglomerates that they are.
Could you imagine if at the time the vax was peaking we memed it the MAGA VAX - SIDE EFFECTS ARE: UNCONTROLLABLE URGES TO WEAR RED WHITE AND BLUE ATTIRE, AND WONDERING WHY YOU KEEP PLAYING STRANGLEHOLD BY TED NUGENT ON MY I TUNES.
Dont forget Pence was the lead man on the covid scam - he fed all of the lies to the President. While Trump will be the ultimate scapegoat, Pence, Fauci, Birk, CDC, WHO, FDA and the Surgeon General were the scammers. And Pharma KNEW what the vaccine was not effective - ALL the animals DIED during testing.
The smell of Trump's blood in the water is all they need to open the floodgates with all of the damaging information that they just cannot hold back any longer. Trump, I hope, was planning on this all along in order to expose it. The provable fact is that they all lied to him. Birx just confessed to lying in her book in concert with the rest of the murderers. I wonder if she made a deal to take down the rest. Trump was lied to... and Pence was in charge. That's one way to take the traitor down.
There is no doubt in my mind that WARP Speed derailed the timeline they originally had planed, forcing them to open things up sooner. I believe the original plan meant to keep us locked down much longer waiting for the vaxxine. "But what about all the people that were killed and were injured?" Sometimes a decision has to be made between two really crappy choices. Possibly Trump chose what he thought was the lesser of two evils - that is why he can claim hundreds of millions of people were saved. So if what we are currently seeing is bad, then I would hate to see what the other choice would have brought.
You are 100% correct in my opinion. I have to believe Trump planned for them blaming him for the shitty vaccine that Pharma should NEVER have released but Pharma is as cabal as the rest of the deep state and a big part of the agenda. I also believe Trump came into office with the intent to bring Big Pharma down, he just used their own agenda as a boomarang as that was the card he was dealt. Yes people died but I do agree with you that they were crappy choices he was dealt. Once again he will take the bullets for others. I pray every day that he is kept safe and will see the justice he has so tirelessly worked toward FOR AMERICA.
I agree completely. In fact, this whole public messaging playbook was laid out a couple of years ago in a mock plandemic scenario. It basically stated that when the dam of overwhelming information becomes too difficult to keep censored, then the dam will be allowed to burst - but a scapegoat/ or scapegoats, will already have been selected to take the blame and the heat. This is all going according to that playbook and is very well coordinated by media and big tech. So yes, it will be directed at Trump. They are smelling blood in the water and can't help but take the bait to destroy the bad orange man. Their TDS will allow all of this scamdemic information to be aired. But I think, like the Mar-a-Lago panty raid, they are going to come up with goose eggs. Trump really is a Teflon Don.
I have been trying to remember the name of that pandemic scenario, but it has slipped from my memory. It is not Event 201 - that primarily dealt with the global governmental and financial responses to a plandemic. This one targeted more on crafting the public narrative. If you remember which one it is, I would be grateful. I hate when that happens - it is right on the tip of my tongue.
We all know they are full of crap. Event 201 was exactly what it looked like. This other war gaming got some publicity when it was first discovered. Not sure what entity sponsored it. I have been doing searches, but with the throttling of search results, I don't seem to be able to find it. It was a PDF download. Damn. This has been bugging me for a couple of days trying to remember the name of it. It was posted on GW. Maybe another anon will remember.
How is this even news? This was exactly the purpose of Warp Speed, to make a bloated, lethargic, and big pharma controlled bureaucracy treat the so-called public health emergency like it was in fact an emergency.
Funny how critical that month after the election was to approve an Emergency Use Authorization. They could have easily punted for another month if the pressure was really coming from President Trump.
Agreed. Don’t understand the downvotes. Even if you think he had to do it to avoid extended lockdowns it doesn’t explain why he was touting it as recently as this spring
I was (and I'm sure a lot of you were) waiting for this narrative to start. To me this is the end of their covid theater and they've lost. I'm sure Trump was waiting for this as well.
They all went on record about how they would never take a "Trump" vaccine, then became much more comfortable with the jab, leading me to believe that some things were changed in the jab to become more to their liking. Now they can discuss what changes were made and why.
This will again backfire on them.
From an objective perspective, Trump gave the scientists a kick up the arse and removed loads of red tape in order to get these 'vaccines' ready in record time.
Could anyone objectively say he knew they would cause so many health issues before they were even tested, especially when Pfizer and Co. hid all the data?
I'm not saying he didn't know, he might have, but try proving it.
However, once adverse effects/deaths started being reported - who covered it up and continued to push that shit into people - who threatened people's jobs and withheld medical treatments etc.?
Yes, Trump will take some flack, but it will bounce of and boomerang right into their faces, again. They don't seem to learn, do they?
Edit: I've believed all along that Trump knew this would be something they'd try to do, hence why he has never denounced the jabs officially (much to a lot of people's consternation).
trump said HCQ and they can all fuck themselves
everything else is personal choice
Well I clearly remember Trump also heavily pushed the vaccines once they were rolling out, as them being very very important. He even publicly shamed his own voters who were hesitant about it. Yes a good part of his MAGA base, especially the elderly, clearly were further assured by Trump's endorsement to get the shot.
Unless he's a total sociopath, he simply doesn't know and shouldn't speak on medical related issues as a non professional, no matter what people expect of a President. He goes on what his health advisors were briefing him on. Why else would he reverse course 180 deg from his anti-vax tweets years back?
when did trump say HCQ
when did they change the meaning of the term vaxcine
At the very beginning - before they had a vaccine ready. Remember? Then the libs pounced on him claiming he was recommending people drink fish tank cleaner. He also was talking about light therapy and they made him out to be a quack (despite the fact that we know certain light frequencies kill viruses).
and the fact that chris cuomos wifey was the one who used light therapy to heal
Mount Sinai hospital was trialling the use of UV light in a minuscule catheter inserted into the patient and turned on, it worked.
i know
Exactly right, he mentioned HCQ and Ivermectin along with the possibility of using UV light (which has been trialled and used at Mount Sinai hospital) and blood cleaning (meaning monoclonal's) and the MSM turned it into bleach/fish tank cleaner. IIRC it was in the very early days during the "Covid task force" with Fauchi and Birx on stage along with Trump.
The mention of HCQ and Ivermectin is what gave many us the hint to start digging on it, I then heard a Dr on Fox talk about how he saved an elderly patient on his death bed with CV19 and had only hours to live, so he gave him Ivermectin and only hours later the patient was up and out of bed.
The patient was the Dr's Father.
They also blew up a couple of HCQ plants, iirc.
I think Trump was just trying to "fix Covid" in his mind. When I look back, it was clear he was promoting basically whatever could possibly work as a treatment. He's not an MD, so logically, he was having to follow the advice of his "advisors" (the serpent Fauci, et. al). Anyway, so he was for any and all treatments that would eliminate Covid and not interfere with the election imho.
However, Fauci and team (who were already primed to roll-out the Moderna vax (remember they already SHIPPED the vaccines back in Feb '20 to trial sites so they were waiting in the wings...also Fauci was getting major $ from Moderna) began their assault on alternative therapies so as to get the Emergency Use Authorization of their already ready-to-go mRNA vaccine. *** Remember - the only way to get EUA is for there to be no other alternative treatments. *** So, thus began the outright campaign against HCQ, Ivermectin, monoclonal antibodies, etc.
Anyway - Trump was again, deferring to his advisors, so he likely was TOLD vaccines were the best option to get out of the Covid mess. He looped-in the Department of Defense who assisted with the roll-out of the vaccines. In terms of Fast-tracking it - that was not something Trump was really involved in - that again came down to the EUA which allows for the use of experimental therapies in the face of a national emergency (or whatever we we're officially in - I can't remember what it's called but I believe we're still officially under one...).
So that's my take on it. I think Trump was "pushing" the vaccines in that he really, perhaps naively believed they were a good option. However he always stated they shouldn't be mandated. He did at times say one should take them - but I think that was just him being really mistaken and misled.
Yes, Trump asked for a VACCINE but that's not what big pHARMa gave everyone. They gave us an experimental mRNA concoction. Not even close to a 'traditional vaccine'. This will, I believe, and should backfire on these liberal clowns always trying to blame Trump for THEIR mistakes and wrongdoings.
Now is the time for Trump to actually point out what he asked for and what they actually provided. This could bring down the entire pHARMa industry..and I hope it does.
Yes he is responsible for rushing these deadly vaccines and promoting them but the theory is the alternative was much worse. He's going to have to prove that in court and to the world population
One thing i couldn't understand about any of this: cars lined up for over a mile to drive through a covid tent to get another shot. A shot given by an unknown person, employed by whomever, a person who knows nothing about the patient history at all. No doctor's orders, nothing. Just drive up and stick your arm out the window. Crazy, I tell you.
Like 2 weeks ago I drove past a strip mall. In the parking lot was a uhaul van with a tent setup next to it giving covid vaccines.
Nothing about that raises red flags for these people?
People have ZERO idea what's in that vial of "Covid vax".
You could set up a U-Haul van in a parking lot with a tent and sign, offering free doughnuts and coffee with each injection... and then inject people with arsenic, liquid mercury and ammonia. Even if every vial is clearly labeled with the deadly ingredients... nobody will even read the label. If the people in the tent are wearing white lab coats and masks... then it looks official enough.
If you hand each person an information card saying that this "vaccine" will ruin your health or kill you... nobody will even read the information card. Hundreds of lemmings will line up for their injection, then get a free doughnut and cup of coffee. That's where we are.
It's true. People sign anything. And it could be anyone wearing a labcoat and a mask. Anyone. Injecting anything.
What a GREAT idea for a Twilight Zone type story!
A serial killer makes up his own vax formula and slaps a Pfizer label on them.
People think it's a real vaccine, so they drive up to the van.
They roll up their arms, little suspecting that the serial killer has put all sorts of poisonous things in it just for his own amusement.
And to see how long it takes them to die.
Unfortunately, it is too close to the truth.
Who didn't see this coming?
Fauci!
Kek
Word on the street is he knew the vaccines were developed before the virus was even released. https://richardthesaint.substack.com/p/issue-98-part-5-flight-1745
The question is, who forced the jab? Personal choice would have resulted in fewer jabbed.
Not surprised. I really want to see how Trump responds to this. It may lend answers as to why he promoted so heavily to begin with. He can now expose Big P(harm)a for the snake oil conglomerates that they are.
And yet, it seems to have been those who hated him most who ran to take the shots, while many of his supporters said, Nah.
always call it the TRUMP VAX it makes jabbies absolutely seethe.
Could you imagine if at the time the vax was peaking we memed it the MAGA VAX - SIDE EFFECTS ARE: UNCONTROLLABLE URGES TO WEAR RED WHITE AND BLUE ATTIRE, AND WONDERING WHY YOU KEEP PLAYING STRANGLEHOLD BY TED NUGENT ON MY I TUNES.
Lol.
NCSWIC
Dont forget Pence was the lead man on the covid scam - he fed all of the lies to the President. While Trump will be the ultimate scapegoat, Pence, Fauci, Birk, CDC, WHO, FDA and the Surgeon General were the scammers. And Pharma KNEW what the vaccine was not effective - ALL the animals DIED during testing.
The smell of Trump's blood in the water is all they need to open the floodgates with all of the damaging information that they just cannot hold back any longer. Trump, I hope, was planning on this all along in order to expose it. The provable fact is that they all lied to him. Birx just confessed to lying in her book in concert with the rest of the murderers. I wonder if she made a deal to take down the rest. Trump was lied to... and Pence was in charge. That's one way to take the traitor down.
There is no doubt in my mind that WARP Speed derailed the timeline they originally had planed, forcing them to open things up sooner. I believe the original plan meant to keep us locked down much longer waiting for the vaxxine. "But what about all the people that were killed and were injured?" Sometimes a decision has to be made between two really crappy choices. Possibly Trump chose what he thought was the lesser of two evils - that is why he can claim hundreds of millions of people were saved. So if what we are currently seeing is bad, then I would hate to see what the other choice would have brought.
You are 100% correct in my opinion. I have to believe Trump planned for them blaming him for the shitty vaccine that Pharma should NEVER have released but Pharma is as cabal as the rest of the deep state and a big part of the agenda. I also believe Trump came into office with the intent to bring Big Pharma down, he just used their own agenda as a boomarang as that was the card he was dealt. Yes people died but I do agree with you that they were crappy choices he was dealt. Once again he will take the bullets for others. I pray every day that he is kept safe and will see the justice he has so tirelessly worked toward FOR AMERICA.
I agree completely. In fact, this whole public messaging playbook was laid out a couple of years ago in a mock plandemic scenario. It basically stated that when the dam of overwhelming information becomes too difficult to keep censored, then the dam will be allowed to burst - but a scapegoat/ or scapegoats, will already have been selected to take the blame and the heat. This is all going according to that playbook and is very well coordinated by media and big tech. So yes, it will be directed at Trump. They are smelling blood in the water and can't help but take the bait to destroy the bad orange man. Their TDS will allow all of this scamdemic information to be aired. But I think, like the Mar-a-Lago panty raid, they are going to come up with goose eggs. Trump really is a Teflon Don.
I have been trying to remember the name of that pandemic scenario, but it has slipped from my memory. It is not Event 201 - that primarily dealt with the global governmental and financial responses to a plandemic. This one targeted more on crafting the public narrative. If you remember which one it is, I would be grateful. I hate when that happens - it is right on the tip of my tongue.
From what I read, Bill Gates denied planning for covid19 at Event 201 so I do think you are on the right track.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/03/26/fact-check-bill-gates-backed-pandemic-exercise-didnt-predict-covid-19/5081854002/
We all know they are full of crap. Event 201 was exactly what it looked like. This other war gaming got some publicity when it was first discovered. Not sure what entity sponsored it. I have been doing searches, but with the throttling of search results, I don't seem to be able to find it. It was a PDF download. Damn. This has been bugging me for a couple of days trying to remember the name of it. It was posted on GW. Maybe another anon will remember.
Well if Bill Gates says it didnt happen - we all know that it did.
True that!
I remember Trump touting HCQ first.
He tossed the cures out there, media went ree and most normies followed the media...
they are gonna wish they got the horse paste now.
Still waiting for the libtards to produce video where President Trump told people to drink bleach. 😂
Smoothebrain rationale...chlorine dioxide = bleach(it's not).
How is this even news? This was exactly the purpose of Warp Speed, to make a bloated, lethargic, and big pharma controlled bureaucracy treat the so-called public health emergency like it was in fact an emergency.
Funny how critical that month after the election was to approve an Emergency Use Authorization. They could have easily punted for another month if the pressure was really coming from President Trump.
I've always thought "warp speed" was DJT trolling the DS
She was never supposed to lose
Warp speed was all about forcing the DS to accelerate their plans so that they became more obvious to normies and wake them up.
exactly
He absolutely bears responsibility for all of that shilling.
Agreed. Don’t understand the downvotes. Even if you think he had to do it to avoid extended lockdowns it doesn’t explain why he was touting it as recently as this spring
Trump:. This is abhorrent! I trusted the science like everyone else and we were lied to
Fauci, Birx, Pfizer etc: um , no, I... That's not exactly, no. Um...
$$$$
I was (and I'm sure a lot of you were) waiting for this narrative to start. To me this is the end of their covid theater and they've lost. I'm sure Trump was waiting for this as well.
Key words
Yep..they know that soon the SHTF so they are getting ahead to blame Trump.
Priceless
Demon bastards
as to negate a mandate for something approved. FDA STILL would have allowed it, as it does all the toxic foods and medicines already.
Vaccine Timeline - https://t.me/EastApp/8778
EVEN IF I BOUGHT THIS EXCUSE, and I fuckin don't, it does NOT absolve them of responsibility for EVERY FUCKING DECISION MADE AFTER TRUMP LEFT OFFICE
They all went on record about how they would never take a "Trump" vaccine, then became much more comfortable with the jab, leading me to believe that some things were changed in the jab to become more to their liking. Now they can discuss what changes were made and why.