Me: Why's the flag lowered to have staff?
Him: Haven't you heard the Queen of England died?
Me: Wait, so we lower the U.S. flag for foreign dignitaries? Since when?
Him: We just do what we're told around here.
So am I so country bumpkin that I missed somewhere along the way that we lower our flag for foreign heads of state/dignitaries? Someone please enlighten me.
This surprised me too, but it’s in the flag code.
Thank you.
Appreciate you asking the question. Now a bunch of us are better informed.
I thought like you- no idea
Ditto!
Triple updoot. Excellent sauce fren
i get it and all... but me? id put them bitches a foot higher after her death
It's true. I couldn't wait to get the flags back up after RBG, GHWB and the other bad actors that croaked.
The District of Columbia is one arm, the second is London, the third is the Vatican. They're different functions of the same entity. He's been the most open about DC's relationship with the "Crown."
What the ever-living fuck! There must be precedence for this, right? I'm just slack-jawed.
As an American, on American soil, I lowered my Ukrainian flag to half staff today...
My neighbors and I hugged and cried, then played cornhole.
If we all had Ukrainian flags and took the COVID vaccine, then we can finally stop global warming from ending the world in 2012.
A few years ago I would have said you were full of shit. Now I say you are 100% over that target.
Notice when some of the African dignitaries / Leaders who resisted the jab died there was no request to put the flag down. Hmm interesting.
I haven't been by today. I did notice the addition of what looks like a tombstone with the phrase or something to this effect, in honor of all past, present and future post office employees. I thought to myself, it looks like someone died. Did the post office need to put this out front? Why waste money on a tombstone? I guess it's been up since some time last year. Strange.
"Him: We just do what we're told around here."
^^ THIS ^^
Bahh Bahh Bahh Sheeple talk..
Ohh yea, I fully agree w/ you.. I've worked w/ the govt. in my days. But, sometimes it just takes one little seed to grow a mighty oak, and planting such seeds as we flow through our day is something that should be done Govt. workers or not :)
Right, that explains the behavior and actions of the FBI, CIA, DOT, DOE, IRS and whole executive band of tyrants. Written proceedures eh? Right!
Weelllll, yes and no. I get what you're saying but there's a grey area.
Lemme give a little background: 24yrs Retired MSgt. When I retired, they immediately snatched me up as a contractor. Been doing that now since 2012...so about 10-1/2 years. Thats roughly 34-1/2 years of working directly for the military in many capacities.
First, yes: It is true you must generally follow orders, but there is a caveat built into the system rarely used and even less known: the right to refuse an unlawful order as built into the UCMJ (Uniform Code of Military Justice). It takes balls to do it...big ones...but I've done it many times while active, and three times while contractor.
Second, No: As mentioned above with the UCMJ, you CAN refuse an order or course of action that is contrary to readiness, deployability, harmful to self or the equipment, etc. This is perfectly lawful under the UCMJ. But, as I said, you have to know WTF you're talking about or you can get a big red-white-and blue cock shoved up your ass for it.
2 quick examples where I refused on topics most should be familiar with:
When I was active: Back in the 90's we were "required" to take Anthrax shots and boosters. After doing research, I found out it was just another experiment because there are MANY variations of Anthrax and the shot only supposedly protects against ONE, not many, and the type Vaxxed against had a very low Area of Operations (AO) probability. They used the same fear hype as COVID to get people to do it. Down side is, it gives life lasting health issues. I refused this, went thru Hell over it, but they still deployed me, still promoted me, etc. I won the battle.
Recent times as a contractor: I refused the COVID Vax, and wearing a mask, for same reasons as above. My company, and military threatened to terminate my employment and I said go for it: You dipshits will lose a highly trained special operations trained asset and a few million dollars on top of it for wrongful termination, discrimination, mental and physical abuse, etc. Said I have zero issues becoming a millionaire over your stupidity. They backed off, never wore a mask nor got the clot shot. 4 others I work with saw this and refused the same way. Everyone else (whom I thought had more brains than they do, did it all. Fuck them.) I stillwork there not because I have to, but because I enjoy what I do. Keeps me busy.
So, yes, generally speaking you have to follow orders UNLESS that caveat pops up....then you can tell them to go fuck themselves and be 100% legal in doing so.
Probably a GS-7 running that PO.
It spends more time at half mast than fully raised now days.
Started with 9/11 (good reason) Then Iraq/Afghanistan every time a soldier died Now days all it takes is a stubbed to by an assistant for the junior deputy assistant intern summer clerk in the Biden WH
Couldn't agree more, fren.
We need to make the standard flag pole twice as tall.
I was trying to remember if this has happened before. It's hard to remember, but I would wager that it's not completely uncommon. Especially with GB being our closest ally and still considered the 'mother country.' She was queen for 70 years. That's a heck of a long time. And I would think that if our president died, they would do the same there. It's just a show of respect.
Very rational perspective. Thank you.
Perkin's restaurants have giant U.S. flags and they had the flag at half mast.
They are gone here but last time I saw one in Florida we stopped just to get some eclairs for the road.
Not just a foreign dignitary, but a friend of pedophiles and defender of her rapist children.
The Queen harbored Epstein and Maxwell and a private lodge, and gave millions to her children/grandchildren to cover their legal expense when they were accused of rape/pedophilia. Never let anyone forget that.
Wow! You got a. Post office employee that speaks engrish? Nice!
Do you know what the BAR in BAR Association stands for?
You know what? I DO know but I only learned it the other day from reading a post on GAW. Slack-jawed twice in one week...
Half-staff was done in honor of Abe's death too, wasn't it
Yes. It was.
https://halfstaff.org/us-flags-to-half-staff-honoring-abe-shinzo-former-prime-minister-of-japan/
Pedo Joe kisses every ass he can find. It's been this way ever since he took office. Even in his Senate days he was a suck ass.
George Washington is rolling over in his grave...along with all of the other signers of the "Declaration of Independence."
After the death of former Israel President and prime minister Shimon Perez, the US Flags were flown at half staff on sept 28 through 30 in 2016
Probably the Queen and I agree, that would be bullshit.
All the mail boxes have been disappearing around my area. Some assholes were breaking into them and their solution is to simply remove them, rather than replace them with better versions. They didn’t even have a camera to record the crime.
POTUS has the authority to order it done, so if Traitor joe the Pedo is POTUS he can be told to order that done.
If the truth was told the flag should be upside down to represent danger and imminent distress.
Technically... London owns the USA corp, so we lost our ruler lol.
I support flags at half mast for the queen. I respected her even if many here do not.
Lmao
At this rate, I’m not sure it will ever be at full-staff! I’m thinking this needs to be re-addressed....
No apologies, my American flag will stay at full staff.
I noticed this at our post office too. I thought, "No way that can be for the Queen?"
Now days the flag is lowered because someone died. Don’t matter who anymore.... just that we know who it is because media tells us. Small town teacher died in another state? Lower the flag, she was amazing with the children.
Seems to me like the flag is at half more than fully raised.
Just like at my golf club. They've been dropping like flies since they queued to accept the fake vaccines.
People need to swing for this.
I’m in Eastern North Carolina & most private companies & gas stations have had flags at half staff over a year. I think the workers in charge of the flags either gave up or don’t have the same respect for the flag as what I learned when I was a child in the 70s. I made a post here in the past year asking if others were noticing the same in USA. Most people from all over the country noticed the same half staff flags.
I think this is something that needs to be addressed via our legislatures. It's way out of hand.
Thought the same thing Fren!
I remember Obama had it lowered for Nelson Mandela. I couldn't believe it. Mandela was a terrorist.
QE2 rang big Ben every hour when jfk died breaking protocol, but I wouldn't think our federal government would do it for worthy causes.
"Someone please enlighten me."
The Queen (The Crown) isn't a foreign head of state. She (It) owns the Corporation called The United States of America. The same corporation that employs Biden and likely all of the 3 letter agencies that operate under his administration.
Everyone needs to read the Treat of Paris and understand its meaning.
The post by TSearch is true too about the flag code.
Understand there are multiple "states of america"
United States of America. united States of America... (Original Republic) The United States of America.
Probably a few more. The main ones are Crown owned and Vatican owned.
She helped get Potato head in office it's the least he can do to pay her back. Bullshit!
The postal service is an executive branch of the federal govt. They do whatever the feds say.
Was it a title 4 flag on a flag pole without additions?
Dude, I see flags flying at half staff driving around town almost every single day. It's meaningless now.