Why Is The U.S. So Openly Advertising A Ship Carrying Tanks To Ukraine? Can anyone sense a False Flag?
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The Lusitania Part II - Watch the Water
Remember the Maine!!
Lusitania
Gulf of Tonkin
USS Cole
Tried and true deep state method to trick the Patriotic masses onto the war path.
Aquatic FF's = No witnesses.
Yes, but what is to stop a smooth DS operator to blow up the ship, and CLAIM it was the Russians à la Nordstream? There won't be an investigation, just some hotheads yelling Ruski murder.
This is why I think it is implausible that Russia will blow that ship out of the water, and if it does blow up it is the DS. The Russians just have to wait until the vehicles show up at the front line, where they have all their guns, rockets and planes ready and waiting. Why waste effort on an Atlantic operation?
right, we know the CIA has subs....
It would take a long time to train them to operate a tank.
And prolly, the tanks will be operated by Westerners, sheepdipped to look like Ukrainians. The problem with that tactic, is that they won't be able to admit it.
Normies: they want the Ruskies to know, and be afraid of what it means.
Cabal: they want Normies to be afraid of what it means.
White hats: they want the cabal to know, that we know, that they want everyone to be afraid of what it means.
Patriots: it means, let's go already
Anons: it means we need to make more popcorn
Moar 🍿
Ha!
Hope the crew was smart enough to demand Hazard Pay
the lusitania - the titanic - the maine (spanish-american war) - all FF's to facilitate yet another war
USS Cole, USS Maddox of Gulf of Tonkin fame
My point exactly.
Watch the water. Playbook is known.
FF is a posability, or they are just trying to egg Russia on. They probably sent at least some defectives like they did with the Patriot Missiles as well.
Yes, I had not considered that- of course. When they are making a big Hollywood song and dance about sending the vehicles, they are probably just props.
So the Russians can take it out and “draw’ us into direct conflict. That’s a big duh!
Biden will cover up Ukraine by destroying Ukraine and us as well if need be.
"Russians"
zigackly.
Their goal is the destruction of the United States of America. The pedo death cult can not win without this. They will do so by making the American People distrust every institution through biological warfare, through kinetic warfare, through financial warfare, through psychological warfare, through internecine warfare, through race warfare, through class warfare. Their lies and subterfuge are all designed to send the biggest threat against them into chaos.
It is through this chaos, when the People are begging for relief, they will provide their "solutions".
But we know their playbook. "Never let a crises go to waste."
( CAN SOMEONE TELL ME THIS ??? ) - Exactly "What Port" ? in exactly "What Country" are US Military Cargo Ships going to pull up to , to drop off all these tanks and military equipment ??? ( Plus US Service Men ) I looked at a world map, and i can not see one logical tactically safe place to unload that bulk of equipment. ( and personnel. ) NEXT - the closest "Open Ocean" port is either Northern Germany , or Turkey in the Mediterranean. THEN - it would be a 1500 mile journey from Germany ( through mountainous terrain ) or a 1000 mile journey from Turkey ( through mountainous terrain ) just to get to the very western / or , southern side of the Ukraine. " THAT SHIT AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN". LASTLY - ??? What happened to that "The MILITARY is the Only Way" rhetoric ??? I'm kinda questioning weather or not ??? if the US Military is gonna be available to have the back of the US Citizen - to raise the middle finger to the Cabal / Black Hats / NWO - when they are busy over in Eastern Europe shuffling boat loads of all that was mentioned above. ??? Am I Missing Something ???
I don't follow. Any ship can unload at Gdansk in Poland, and the tanks can go by railway to Ukraine. No mountains involved, as far as I know.
I wouldn't put it past the Russians to delegate an attack sub to tail the cargo ship and see if anyone else is also tagging. If there is an "allied" submarine (U.S. or U.K.) that torpedoes the ship for a False Flag attack, it would be a super consternation if the unsuspected Russian follower were to torpedo the assailant submarine. What would the assailant say? Couldn't say a word. Wasn't supposed to be there.
Or the Russian sub could go on active sonar all the while, announcing to everyone that it was there---and obtaining a solid track on any other follower. (I would also suspect that the U.S. Navy would detail a destroyer to follow the ship, if only to "verify" the False Flag and provide aid and assistance to a stricken ship. Tidy scripting.)
And, just gaming this in my head, the Russians should send along a surface ship to be an "impartial observer" of whatever happened. Capturing any sonar tracks by the way. Better yet, the Russian ship could conduct an anti-submarine attack on the assailant. How could any U.S. trailing ship object?
I think the best way to spoil a False Flag event is to add extra actors on stage, wearing brass knuckles, turn up the lights, and fill the auditorium with spectators and cameras.
I like your thinking here. I'm sure the Russians have gamed it through. They are likely to have more options than the west in some ways. It's their home area, they have good surveillance and electronic countermeasures. They have quiet subs and better missiles. Finally, I think they have better (sane) strategists.
Im no scholar when it comes to geography ( especially Europe ) but i don't see a path / open ocean route - that "Gigantic US Cargo Ships" can get any farther East - via shipping routs , than Germany. There is no access or major port in Poland ( as far as i can tell. ) The Baltic Sea - " Is Cut Off" and there is no access to Northern Poland.
The Baltic Sea exits through the Denmark Straits into the North Sea,.Poland has a Port at Gdansk,.where the Tanks can be railroaded through Poland to Ukraine
three largest ports in Poland - Gdańsk, Gdynia, and Świnoujście
-which is most like the Route that the US Cargo ship with the Tanks will take,.
Are we looking at the same map? From Wikipedia: "Seaports exist all along Poland's Baltic coast, with most freight operations using Świnoujście, Police, Szczecin, Kołobrzeg, Gdynia, Gdańsk and Elbląg as their base. The Port of Gdańsk is the only port in the Baltic Sea adapted to receive oceanic vessels." If you can get into the Baltic to ship goods to Germany, going a little farther to Poland is no problem at all. Why would they send cargo in a ship that could not make passage? That makes no sense.
" Makes no Sense" - ( your last statement. ) Once again - I asked ??? What " O P E N OCEAN P O R T " - not some land locked "SEA PORT" that ships have to navigate a rat maze for access into - and be left "VULNERABLE" and trapped in a box with no possible route for quick escape - in fear of attack. Secondly - all that US Military cargo has to be protected and transferred - via rail - for many many miles , on rail lines , and rail equipment that "ARE NOT DESIGNED" to transport massive US Military equipment. ??? What quantity of US Military "Equipment & Personnel" would be required for such an operation ??? and once again - ( Trust in the US Military / The Military is the only way ) This would mean that our military is in direct correlational in creating world tension and posturing in an act of aggression and act's of WAR directly squarely at Russia.
" ALL THIS" makes me contemplate and question "ALL" that is going on around us.
What are you talking about? Gdansk is a main seaport on the Baltic Sea, which is not a constrained passage. There is no "rat maze." If you are willing to accept sea transport to Germany, there is nothing else to worry about when traveling a few more miles to Gdansk (the former German Danzig). After that, conventional rail transport is more than adequate to convey military equipment. I don't understand your capitalization and exclamation points. Consult a map, for heaven's sake.
As for "vulnerable," there is no other word for cargo ships, which has been a known fact for hundreds of years. There is no such thing as "quick escape," as cargo ships are not "quick."
How old are you? I guess you have no idea how much military materiel and personnel were transported exclusively by ship in World War II. Often as closely as possible to where combat was taking place. No railroads across the Atlantic Ocean to North Africa. No railroads to Sicily and mainland Italy. No railroads across the Mediterranean Sea, Red Sea, Persian Gulf, or Indian Ocean. No railroads to the beaches at Normandy. No railroads to Brussels, after the beachhead was established. Not to mention no railroads across the Pacific Ocean. My father was in the Navy Armed Guard manning the convoys, all through the war. They went everywhere. What you are talking about would be dismissed as nonsense.
lol, what? Why do you think there are 10k US troops around the port in Gdansk? It's the largest port in the area and one Putin would LOVE to own. They ship 50 TRILLION tons of crap every year. We also drop tons of stuff into huge German ports and rail it into Ukraine very easily.
Responding to your " L O L " - Once again - I asked ??? What " O P E N OCEAN P O R T " - not some land locked "SEA PORT" that ships have to navigate a rat maze for access into - and be left "VULNERABLE" and trapped in a box with no possible route for quick escape - in fear of attack. Secondly - all that US Military cargo has to be protected and transferred - via rail - for many many miles , on rail lines , and rail equipment that "ARE NOT DESIGNED" to transport massive US Military equipment. ??? What quantity of US Military "Equipment & Personnel" would be required for such an operation ??? and once again - ( Trust in the US Military / The Military is the only way ) This would mean that our military is in direct correlational in creating world tension and posturing in an act of aggression and act's of WAR directly squarely at Russia. " ALL THIS" makes me contemplate and question "ALL" that is going on around us.
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You do realize that "some land locked sea port" is actually the deepest water port in the area and way deeper than anything else on the open ocean side of the EU.
You clearly know nothing about shipping or the military.
You are 100% correct. ( i am clueless. ) That is the entire premise of my response to this post. ( I was asking ??? ) On my IGNORANT side of the street - your response seems to justify my question. Germany seems to be the only viable option. ??? Why would our military engage in such actions . ( and vulnerabilities ? )
No, they landed in Gdansk already and used railcars to get them to the Ukraine border. This is very, very normal and happened all through WW1 and WW2.
The most convenient port would be Odessa, except that I doubt that Erdogan would let that ship through the Dardanelles. So yeah, there is the issue of transport overland (and mountain ranges, on transporters), which makes the convoy a flaming target - not comfy. Furthermore, there is the FF issue, to provide NATO with a reason to put official boots on the ground.
I believe this 'moving' military vehicles thingie is too visible - everyone is now looking. What are they really doing? As another anon just pointed out: Why move them from USA when those vehicles are all over Europe? But then many of the European tanks/APCs are in a shocking state of disrepair - and supplying those to Ukraine would mean depleting stocks in the rest of Europe, only to have them blown up in the first week. The donor countries then would be 'defenseless against Russian aggression' even though they already were defenseless with that rotting equipment, and Russia does not intend anything of the sort.
Why is the US military not putting its foot down, with this nonsense of foreign entanglements? In the end, what they are doing is covering Biden's ass, who was meddling with large amounts of money in Ukraine. Why is the military putting up with it?
It's a head scratcher all right.
I'd like to know what exactly makes expired-uranium exterior construction a desirable feature on an Abrams tank
It's a very dense material. Hard to penetrate. It's also layered with ceramic layers to defeat HEAT rounds.
Search Chobham armor.
I thought they werent going to send Abrams with the depleted uranium armor and all the latest bells and whistles. Ive read that they were building "stock" Abrams from scratch specifically for shipment to Ukraine.
That is correct. They will not be sending tanks with the same kind of armor. Probably solid steel.
DeSantis needs a haircut here
Oh wait
False flag to claim someone sank it.
Someone
" it almost seems to me as if theyre inviting Russia to sink it ,I mean they showing the number af IFVs,.the name of the ship,even showing them onboard not being really Secretive about it , very strange,...btw it wouldnt be much of a problem for Russia to sink it,.but highly unlikely,.
Wouldn't you love to be a sacrificial sailor on that boat?
I dunno, maybe they have an orchestra on board, to play while it goes down? Heroic stuff.
Holy cow! OPSEC much?!
There is no excuse for this. None. It has to be deliberate.
Wasn’t there a Russian air craft carrier that went off course straight towards the US recently
Yes, but notice that no-one knows where that nuclear Russian sub is.
Scare event has to start somehow.
You sank my battleship!
They have to cover their asses somehow and Russia knows way too much.
Seems a weird way to cover their asses - by openly advertising the name of the ship and showing its trajectory etc.
It’s simple. Bomb the ship and claim Russia did it. Be sloppy and claim plausible deniability. Anything to shut Putin up because he knows too much.
Well, in fairness, Demtard leaders routinely tip our defensive hands to our adveraries. Black Jesus routinely did so.
This person doesn't really understand what Osint is.
It is calling into the UK next week, before heading over to mainland Europe.
Probably fitting the detonators and remote triggers.
Why would the us send tanks via ship when we already have them in the European Theater?
Someone on here mentioned that there's tech we need to remove before sending them to anybody, specifically the depleted uranium armor.
Those are not tanks, just saying.