Ohio Train Disaster Genocide
🤢 These people are sick! 🤮
Padraig Martin @PadraigMartin
· East Palestine, Ohio Train Disaster in Numbers
- 50 rail cars derailed on 3 February
- 11 rail cars carried hazardous materials
- 5 rail cars released Vinyl Chloride, a flammable, colorless liquified gas that causes liver, brain, and lung cancer
- 28° Celcius / 82° Fahrenheit is required for Vinyl Chloride to become slightly water soluable
- 1 waterway was directly impacted - the Leslie Run. It feeds the Little Beaver Creek, a tributary to the Ohio River.
- 5 Million Americans get water from the Ohio River.
- 74 Million Americans get water from the various tributaries and outlets of the Ohio River, which feeds the Mississippi River
- 1 Billion+ animals of varying types - livestock and wildlife - depend on these waterways for life
- None of the waterways have ever hit a sustained 82°F in human history
- 3500 fish and aquatic animals have died in the Leslie Run in the past week
- Almost all small livestock have died in East Palestine since Friday, 10 February, especially poultry
- 4800 residents call East Palestine home
- 94% are White
- 81% of the 74 Million Americans that depend on the Ohio River and associated waterways, including the Mississippi for water for themselves and/or their livestock are White
- Zero FEMA officials have arrived to East Palestine as of 15 February
This was not an accident. This is genocide.
Two thoughts about this whole thing.
First, I posted this link.
The story here is that per some expert legal minds on the subject, they are INTENTIONALLY IGNORING the situation in East Palestine even as the temperature has increased SEVERELY on it with respect to widespread media coverage and online interest/outrage BECAUSE.....
Mike DeWine, Josh Shapiro, Norfolk Southern, State officials AND EPA FUCKED UP BIGTIME. They went through the process and took advice from the wrong people, they didn't properly document during the timeline of events and with respect to decision making, they agreed upon and ENACTED solutions (i.e. 'controlled burn') they had NO AUTHORITY TO MAKE.
The REAL REASON Mike DeWine hasn't declared a disaster and reached out to FEMA (which Democrat Senator Brooke AGAIN encouraged him to do today) is because he CAN'T PRODUCE the necessary documentation THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DO when making decisions regarding the controlled burn. The EPA person in charge has to sign off on that before a decision on how to go forward is made. DeWine and Norfolk Southern didn't wait. Fresh off the FULL CONTROL GIVEN from lockdown COVID times, the Governor went ahead and approved a solution of burning the chemicals off (which that Silvio guy on Tucker said he had NEVER SEEN in 39 years of disaster response) which was doubtless suggested to him by Norfolk Southern. Little did he know HE CAN'T MAKE THAT CALL.
The EPA has to come in and do a full range of tests and they are supposed to log a timeline of activities in the meantime before they make a final call on what the right decision is. They ABSOLUTELY COULD NOT have done that all in two days. DeWine made the call, influenced by Norfolk Southern, and he fucked the whole thing up. State officials and EPA are helping to cover for him now.
They go over this in the Bannon War Room clip above. Think about this: IF YOU DID THIS WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO YOU? IF YOU BURNED OFF THESE CHEMICALS IN YOUR BACKYARD, YOU'D BE IN JAIL WITHIN HOURS. ITS A SAFETY HAZARD.
DeWine and possibly Shapiro are facing potentially criminal penalties for their complicity in actions with Norfolk-Southern following the disaster, the EPA is playing dumb and covering for them, and that's why no EPA testing can move forward now and no FEMA or Red Cross or any Federal monies can be applied for. They would have to admit to failures of following typical disaster relief procedures and to making decisions they were not entitled to make.
Second: From u/RexBibendi
I think you've got a really solid point with this one. We're just a couple months from literally running out of money as a government and GDP to debt ratio is OVER 100% for the first time in recorded memory.
How do we know that the working capital exists to handle a crisis like this under our current circumstances? If they looked at the estimate of the cost/scope of the cleanup and concluded they just didn't have the budget or it would use up an inordinate amount of whatever is left (which is likely shaky anyway) (maybe they HAD TO leave it to the company.
Terrifying but not out of the realm of possibility.
P.S. - This "realm" fucking sucks.
Nothing can convince me that this wasn’t deliberate. This was not a “fuck up”. This was planned and deliberate. DeWine was paid off or blackmailed to ignore it. He will not be running for Governor again, so what does he care? He has always been a RINO, weak and incompetent. I doubt he was legally voted back into office, if he wasn’t placed in office, it was only because the DEMS voted for this RINO. He is hated by the majority of voters. He won’t declare this a disaster, if he does it will be way down the road-“to little, to late.”
Going ALL IN with a bioweapon used against the people just wasn't enough for Dewine, he had to do this as well. I guarantee he had a bit of help with his re-election. I sure haven't met anyone that thinks highly of him. I hope people can finally understand just how much of a weasel Mike truly is.
Agree. I believe he was placed in as governor. He is a RINO weasel and I for one, want to see his and all of his family’s bank accounts.
Right, we go to fucking court for burning leaves in our backyard.
Become ungovernable: https://youtu.be/yiHGEqapGkk
Oh yeah that's cool.. But we can't burn because here they're pissed off about the smoke.... it's stupid
Nobody can complain if they don't see smoke.
Two things to add:
The emergency can be natural or man-made for FEMA to get involved. Source: https://www.fema.gov/disaster/current "Disasters can come in many forms. FEMA responds to all declared domestic disasters and emergencies, whether natural or man-made."
Why hasn't this been declared a disaster yet? It is interesting to see your comments, I looked at some articles and it is just bizarre. Under the "Emergency Declaration" section of the source below, the President can declare this an emergency (doesn't look like he needs anything to declare it). Unless he can't make this call (ie first balloon went over the entire US, then they were shot down, is someone else making decisions...)? Or maybe they can't spend the money? But why not pull it from other countries? You mentioned a cover up, and with the lack of press this is getting... I can't argue that. Weird stuff. Source: https://www.fema.gov/disaster/how-declared
I don't get why everyone is so surprised that FEMA is not doing what they're supposed to.
I would have thought Katrina would have woke everyone up on how useless they are.
I was talking with someone who was deployed to Louisiana during Katrina.
He told me they were under orders that their rifles would not be loaded, but their magazines were to be loaded, and if anything got dicey, they were to dump their magazines at the threat.
I thought "YUP."
Our government is off the rails. And has been for a long time.
100% agree.
Forget about jail, they'll be slapped with federal charges, probably including something related to an environmental disaster.
I am not sure how you could substantiate all these figures but this was a disaster that will have lasting impact on many lives for many years....I would wholeheartedly agree this is genocide.
This shit will keep happening until citizens mob up and handle these fuckers.
This isn't something we can "vote" our way out of. They are killing us, bathing us in poison mutilating the children and no one but us is gonna stop it.
I'll keep saying it until I'm blue in the face: nobody has the balls.
Nobody has a way to stop it. Do you suggest we go out in the street and start shooting? Kidnap governors? It's the FBI that suggests that stuff to the foolish. Trump has the courage. He has the way to turn this around. If he fails, we all fail. What we can do is pray, and hope there's a God who answers prayers.
I am not now, nor am I suggesting anything of the sort, simply pointing out a fact.
I get that this is an awful catastrophe. But I've seen several posts here over the past few days outlining how many millions of people will be affected by the pollution in the water. I get that the clouds of smoke will be blown downwind, and potential precipitation might cause it to fall into possible lakes and streams.
However, very few people get their drinking water from rivers or streams. Most people get their drinking water from reservoirs, or wells. A reservoir has a dam at its outlet. Polluted water won't travel upstream, so all these predictions of the water affecting tributaries of the Ohio River are simply not correct. In order for groundwater to sink to the depth of wells, or aquifers, it percolates through sand and sediments allowing for purification, and may require years...if possible at all.
This is bad, and heads need to roll. But these dire predictions claiming millions of people and billions of animals...let's keep all this real. No need to terrify people more than they need to be.
The drinking/cooking/bathing/washing water in my town comes from the Ohio River. I'm not particularly worried about myself because I'm not going to be on this Earth for much longer. I'm more worried about the other people in my neck of the woods.
The people (monsters) who run the world are actively trying to kill us. They massively stepped up their program in 2020. They have various methods to the madness of their murders. They particularly wish to cancel the lives of white people as a priority. I have been reading/hearing about this plan for several years now. For some really strange reason, they seem to think if they kill off whites first, the other races will be easier to control/manage. I do not actually think they will fully succeed in this plan.
No heads are going to roll. No heads have rolled so far for the C19 hospital protocol murders nor the poison Vaxx that has harmed so many.
The government is responsible for what happened. They are doing nothing to help the people who are most in danger from toxic harm. It has killed animals already, so it is going to harm people also.
We don't really know yet how bad it is going to be. The gov claims to be monitoring the situation. A little bit too late.
I just discovered this Padraig Martin fellow on GAB. I think he has a good analytical mind.
I'll keep saying it: nobody has the balls.
Not correct. Sitting here at moms in Hamilton, Ohio. They buy their water from Greater Cincinnati water works and greater Miami water works. Greater Cincinnati water comes from Ohio river and greater Miami from the great Miami river. Much talk here about testing ohio river and what they can do to shut it down if contaminated. Not good and very terrifying. She is in a wheelchair or we would already be back in NC.
However, fish, deer, and a variety of species get their water from rivers, streams and tributaries. I think the people have a right to be upset and concerned regarding the ecological disaster and lack of governmental concern and response. How would you like to be caught in the rain with hydrochloride acid raining down on you or your children playing in the contaminated dirt, or a homeowner trying to sell their home?
This is simply not true. Most people live in the cities. The biggest cities in this part of the country are on the river. These cities draw from the river. Only rural areas draw from the aquifer through wells. And reservoirs are a thing of the arid west not the wet east where there are countless rivers that nearly always run near full capacity.
Yeah it'll stay in the upper layer, where we and all our food is... people should be terrified
For those who cannot install one themselves and cannot afford to hire someone. There are gravity fed filters that work too. Better yet, there are also countertop distillers. They are a little more expensive up front but no need for a plumber if you can't install(reverse osmosis) it yourself. Distillation is the best way to remove any and all chemicals and other non-friendly-human pathogens.
And bathe once a week? I’m on my 2nd distiller in 3 years. The bathing part is a problem for these folks. I hope they end up stinkin rich but more importantly healthy. God bless you E. Palestine
How does distillation work when the water is contaminated with chemicals that boil off with the water? Wouldn't it just condense back into liquid with the steam?
I have an r/o filter on my counter top. One does not need a plumber for it. It would certainly be more convenient to have it under the sink where the water is made all the time, on demand. I'd like that better BUT I cannot do that in this rental. I am grateful for the counter-top one. I HAD a Berkey but during 2020, the filters were not functioning as they always had. I'd used the Berkey since 2011, a really nice stainless steel one. The Berkey filters are quite expensive now; always were though.
Distillation does make for a more pure output.
I second this.
They can remove metals and fluoride, but how about heavy metals and carcinogens so bad they cause cancer?
That said, I'd love to have at least a countertop system.
You can make keto ade to replace electrolytes lost from filtration. Try Keto Chow, they make electrolyte drops; be warned though, if you put the recommended amount of drops in the recommended amount of water, it will taste quite weird. Oh, and don't take the drops straight, they're extremely salty and taste like shit. I did it because I'm dumb.
Sorry, not true at all. You're probably drinking roundup and prozac.
East Palestine- Double Meaning? - Reference to Israel?
Q#916- Saving Israel for last?
u/#q916
You have heard little from Congress, let alone our dim witted Resident, FEMA OR EPA officials. Our government is not by the people or for the people. Congress should be impeaching and removing the entire lot for failure to do their duty. Why pay the incompetent? They are and since arrival in office have been evil and incompetent. This administration was chosen exactly for that reason.
Just shows how incompetent FEMA and the EPA are and that we need to get rid of them.
My whole thing is I understand the timeline, documentation, chain of command blah blah blah, what I dont understand is it is obviously a huge environmental catastrophe, everyone knows it,call it what it is and send help. If the president has control over military codes why can he declare it a state of emergency outright instead of ignoring the entire situation. This is horrible not only for all the people this will impact, wildlife, waterways, farmland probably forever! I am so over these people. Sorry for the rant, stepping off my soapbox now 📦
Cue the invention of the "15 minute smart cities."
MUTAGEN “In genetics, a mutagen is a physical or chemical agent that permanently changes genetic material, usually DNA, in an organism and thus increases the frequency of mutations above the natural background level.“
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutagen
MUTAGENIC HAZARD OF VINYL CHLORIDE ”This ninety-seventh volume contains evaluations by a group of 25 scientists from eight countries of the carcinogenic hazard to humans of 1,3-butadiene, ethylene oxide and some vinyl halides (vinyl fluoride, vinyl chloride and vinyl bromide). These industrial gases or their epoxide metabolites are direct-acting mutagens that induce malignant tumours at many sites in rodents.”
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK321405/
Oh look, more white people dying.
TPTB ignoring toxic waste in the Ohio River is far from being a new thing.
https://www.lpm.org/news/2022-10-04/industry-dumped-more-toxic-pollution-into-the-ohio-river-than-any-other-u-s-watershed-in-2020
But it's nice to see people getting concerned over the dangers of toxic waste in rivers and water supply.
Can you add biden admin refused disaster relief. Otherwise grest posting
The war absolutely includes racial genocide too.
This is NOT genocide.
It's not targeting a specific race or religion.
This is simply mass homicide.
It's simply war.
It's simply crimes against humanity.
It's simply an attack on the USA.
The question is why.
And I speaking only for myself, there's a big piece of info (or perhaps pieces) that we still don't know about yet. This doesn't add up to me. There's an obvious cover up here, but i suspect there's far more to this situation than what's visible now.
This is the time to pull back from the paranoid-delusional mindset and wait for more information. It was an accident, with no inciting plot. There are terrible fires that kill many people, but we do not rush to the cabinet of paranoid conspiracy theories and break the glass. (We even expect accidental causes---not arson---as the usual course of things.) Did FEMA show up at the Gold King mine discharge? They can't show up at every disaster.
Of course most of the affected people will be white. That is the majority in that part of the country, as well as the rest of the country. Is there some angst over the fact that blacks, Asians, and American Indians not dominantly affected? This is just racism under another guise, and I have no respect for it.
It remains to be seen what effects will indeed be lasting. This guy is like someone who watches a man on the sidewalk get hit by a flowerpot falling from a seventh story window ledge, and declaring it to be "murder."
This was NOT an accident. It was a deliberate decision, and people were not warned prior to the”controlled burn.” Tell me that the S. Carolina, Houston, Texas, and Detroit, Michigan train derailments and the Tuscon, AZ truck incidents all in one week, were all accidents too.
Agreed!
You don't have a shred of evidence to substantiate "a deliberate decision" for the specific events. The Ohio and Michigan derailments were from the same railroad, Norfolk Southern. If they are scrimping by deferring track maintenance, this is the result: derailments begin to happen. You could say that was a deliberate decision, but only one of negligence, not of specific desire to cause harm. The Arizona truck incident is completely separate and unconnected. I'm not familiar with the S. Carolina and Texas accidents.
The problem here is that you WANT it to be "not an accident." Maybe you even NEED it to be "not an accident." As though an accident is not bad enough.
No, I want it to have not happened at all, whether deliberate or accidental. Most likely we will never know, because big business are all liars and you can believe their word as far as you can throw a stick. That aside, where is the EPA and where is Biden providing financial aide and containment to prevent further spread? I do not take any glee at the misery of others, whether deliberate or accidental. There are way to many derailments. Extra care should be taken when transporting hazardous materials.tracks should be checked regularly for proper status and maintenance.
Welcome to the show at last. 1700 derailments/year on average, for the past 20 years. Partly the media has not been paying attention, and mainly the public is purely ignorant of how much industrial traffic is on the rails. Big business is not "all liars." You fancy you know something you cannot possibly know, but only suspect.
As for the EPA and Biden, are you serious? Do you recall the Gold King mine contamination spill that the EPA was responsible for? Do you not know that Biden has a grudge against flyover country and red states?
As for tracks, what have the people of Ohio been up to? Sleeping in front of the TV set? They have the power to direct the state government to either inspect the railways themselves, or put pressure on the federal government to do so. We can be outraged, but when it reveals that the responsible people (us) have been asleep or indifferent, it is not a comfort.
There are hundreds of train derailments per year in the US.
This is how news works. They don't report unless they think people want to know. Before this, derailments weren't worth their attention. Now it's like a fad to talk about derailments.
In another thread someone whose husband is high up in a train company told her that the bulk of derailments are a single wheel dropping off the track caused by the rail couplers. This is a literal train wreck.
"They don't report unless they think people want to know."
They don't report unless they are told to report.
FIFY 🙂
Yep, hundreds, right next to major water supplies, not just a wheel getting off the track, but fire, explosions, all with hazardous chemicals. Even the trucks had hazardous chemicals, all in one week. Okay.
No. About 1700/year. Do some anon research, please. And it is usually the case that fires and explosions result from hazardous chemicals. That is why they are hazardous.
No. Vast majority of derails are one wheel truck coming off, not a whole car. And not with spills. Source: railfans who listen to the radio and follow trains for fun, folks who worked on the railroads. And this "controlled burn" was way out of line with all procedure, process and law. Stop trying to give anyone involved here any sort of pass, there are no excuses and no way to minimize the damage caused here.
Oh, so you are good with a vinyl chloride explosion and poison cloud? Glad to know it. I guess we could have done that instead, and you would have had no complaint, right? All the deaths and cancers...
There was one way to minimize the damage and they took it. You don't seem to comprehend that it could have been worse---and that's what they were trying to avoid.
By the way, in my neck of the woods, we had a case of eco-terrorists using a "shunt" to derail a train (I think it was a coal shipment). So, I am not ignorant of the possibility of sabotage. But I have also seen a photo of a purported stretch of rail in Ohio and it looked like a bobby pin, so the railroad company is on the hook for the condition of the track, as well as the maintenance status of the rolling stock.
You underestimate the figure. According to the DoT, more than a dozen trains have derailed this year already, and the 30-year average from 1990 has been ~1700 derailments/year. But you are correct to note that the media ignores it if they have other fish to fry.
Ive been on this earth 52 years. Seen a lot, but nothing like this.
You could easily blame the fish deaths on chemical runoff into the river, but how do you attribute the independent reports of small animal deaths?
Dogs, cats, chickens and such.
No mass media reports, but plenty of homeowner reports via social media and my thought is there are so many, the social media people gave up trying to censor.
It is an ecological disaster.
This is a FUBAR situation.
Vinyl chloride and phosgene are heavier than air and will hug the ground. Humans might not be affected, but animals that breathe the air close to the ground will be affected. If you would do the least amount of research on these materials, you would not be surprised by reality.
So, you are arguing people sleep upright/standing so they are not low to the ground?
Lol
A bed is better than the floor. Small animals sleep on the floor or on the ground.
Did you hack that account? Because that's one of the most stupid things I've ever read.
No, read most of the commentary on this issue. Plotters under every bed.
Look, everyone, it's a normie. Did you mean to post this on Reddit? Sound asleep
Oh, and you are a choice one. Absolutely no contribution to make towards information, but you can't avoid an opportunity to jump on the bullshit name-calling wagon. The only thing that "glows" is your measly spirit.
No, this is a guy who has seen chemical tank cars in practically every freight train I have noticed over a long life. And chemical tankers driving on highways. It's a novelty to see what is being carried. You "non-normies" act like this was something new that sneaked up on you overnight, and you are acting like the fussy wife who was surprised by a spider. This is a guy who worked through an ammonia leak in a food processing plant. This is a guy who lived in a town that suffered thermal inversions that trapped sulfur dioxide from the harbor pulp mill. This is a guy who has worked in laboratories with exceedingly deadly chemicals in use. You like to look down on "normies," but don't stop to think they may have better insight than your paranoid ignorance.
Amazing how they made a movie about it ahead of time, or how Rihanna had all the dudes in hazmat suits dancing around her at the superb Owl. Also a crazy coincidence that it just happened to derail right at the perfect site to leak into the Ohio River. Probably nothing. Thanks for your non -relevant resume and work history, though. I'll let you know if I start giving a shit
Railroads are often situated along or near rivers, as the grades are close to water level. That is no coincidence. I note you have nothing non-snarky to say.
Yeah what’s up with that??? Asked in another thread and got crickets…
You can't question trump here. Try asking why he STILL endorses the vaccines to the people who claimed he only supported them at the time for muh optics
Hmm when is the last time he endorsed the vax? Trying to remember ...
Do you really want to know? I could look it up for you. Or you could go to your favorite search engine, type in "Trump + vaccine", set it to news sorted by date. That should bring up some relevant information for you.
My question was not directed at you. Move along.
Does it matter who gives you the information, if you really want to know?
It's also what happens in a public forum. You can DM people if you want to keep conversations private.
Here's the most recent info I could find concerning Trump and the vaccine.
https://americasvoice.news/video/J7fLHKqyzSbXyNu/
He says how the covid vaccine are claimed to save tens of millions of lives.
Thanks. Just hopped back on to see this and think it's ridiculous you got dismissed for the crime of engaging and not being me. Not a real truth seeking attitude...
I came back and see the question was answered. So since I'm the original person the question was directed to do you have a follow up?
What question did they ask? I didn't see the post before it got deleted.
It was a comment about how Trump is spending his time talking smack on newscasters and celebrities while this is going on
Thanks. I figured it must be something along those lines.