Titanic Submarine Disappearance - a good analysis
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I was on submarines for awhile. This was bound to happen. There is a video of their CEO saying he doesn’t hire ex submariners, because 50 year old white guys are not inspiring. That idea alone explains why this happened. Typical lefty rich guy idiocy.
The list of problems I saw in these videos is endless. Many of the talking points they use are theoretical. Its max depth is theoretical. It’s never been down to its advertised max. And you are supposed to have reserve depth. So if they claim 4K meters as max operating depth, there should be 500 meters to max crush depth. To give you a reserve. And that should be tested. They should have sent one down and see how far it can actually go before failing.
The life support was a joke and never tested. They didn’t put 5 people in that thing for 96 hours to see what happens. It’s not just a matter of oxygen. You have to scrub air, remove gases. It’s a balancing act. If you get too much oxygen, the air literally explodes into flame from any minute electrical spark. Like one of the Apollos.
It’s carbon fiber with titanium hood bonded onto it. How many times can that cycle between depths before failure? They have no idea. It’s never been done. Usually these super deep vehicles are total spheres, made of metal. This wasn’t a sphere, meaning the pressure is applied unevenly. All it takes is a dent in the carbon weave to create a weak point and it will crush like a Coke can.
They don’t have emergency transponders. This is lunacy. There should be a fail safe transponder that much be reset manually every hour or so. If someone doesn’t reset the thing, it automatically begins sending a signal that can be picked up on the surface for locating. So if the gases get fucked up and everyone passes out, or they lose comms and electrical, the surface ship will get an emergency signal.
They have zero contingency plans in case a sub disappears. No backup sub. No plans. Just praying the inevitable never happens. They don’t even have a contract plan with another company that has DSRV, to establish some sort of within 24 hour response time. Anything. Any kind of plan on what to do when a sub disappears.
Apparently they lost comms all the time. This wasn’t solved. Why? That’s lunacy as well. If you can’t rely on your comms, when bad shit does happen, people are just gonna assume the best. It’s gonna cost you an entire day of rescue time because the people up top are gonna assume it’s just bad comms. Not an emergency. There are plenty of ways to keep comms going. If the system they had didn’t work, they should have spent the money to get one that does.
They lost comms 90 minutes in as the sub reached the bottom. I’m assuming it suffered catastrophic hull failure and everyone was vaporized instantly. They will struggle to ever find this thing. It’s tiny, made of carbon that isn’t a great reflector of sound waves, and it’s almost 3 miles down in the endless chasm of deep ocean.
Now they will pass regulations for these things. Regulations the Navy already learned from the Thresher and Scorpion. That’s why you hire sub veterans. Because we already paid the price in blood. It’s always the same for humans. We never learn. We always think we are smarter than the other guy. This fancy carbon fiber shiny vehicle built by college students.
Regulations are always written in blood. It never changes.
Fantastic post! Thanks for illustrating how their hubris was their ultimate undoing.
I'm thinking they probably don't want Sub Veterans because this is some Terramar connected shit.
They would be shocked by the amateur construction and lack of safety protocols.
Bingo. I would have been a whistle blower as soon as I found out that maniac was sending people down 12k feet in that thing. That is fucking deep. At least 10 times deeper than modern military platforms tend to go.
The compression at that depth must have been crazy. As you dive in a steel sub, it shrinks considerably. You can hear it. Stretch a line taught across bulkheads and then dive and it becomes loose. You start with a foot of free space outside your rack, and later you have 6 inches.
What does that do to carbon fiber and the bonding area where the titanium is literally glued on? They don’t expand and contract at the same rate. What if the titanium shrinks less than the carbon? Or more? We are talking inches here. It compresses that much.
My guess is they had a failure of the hatch, which the manufacturer plainly stated wasn’t rated for 3k meters, or a failure at the meeting area between carbon and hatch.
That’s why the deep subs are just usually big ass spheres of one metal. James Cameron’s sub he built for the Mariana Trench is a great example.
The utter hubris of this company. I really hope it was fast. Those poor saps that got conned into going on that death machine.
I'll bet this is it right here. Good call.
Do we know of any video showing these five getting into the sub that day?
The mere people got them. Or the collosul squid did. I like your thought on terramar.
great info u/Boozy_McFuckFace thanks
Wow I can’t upvote more than once! Well detailed Anon!
Agree
Great post and great name
Yep, and my new cutdown ...
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@15 mins you can see the end of the submersible and it seems to have 16 bolts.
The news items say 17 bolts. So there must be comms there.
https://www.insider.com/people-missing-submersible-deadbolt-screws-airtight-coast-guard-2023-6
Indeed. Good catch.
You are correct. Definitely comms.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dka29FSZac&t=173s
Who were these passengers and is there a reason one or all would want to "disappear" and in a way where they probably would not be found. That sub could be in Africa by now. TOO STRANGE TO BE BELIEVABLE.
Might be my old eyes but I think there's only 16.
Agree 16 bolts is shown clearly.
Hired surfers and “young college grads to work on his team… ?” Those “50 year old white military submarine veterans “ aren’t looking so bad now…
This company sounds like a joke.
Bolted from outside, cannot be opened from inside.
Never certified for 4000 ft depth, only 3000
Controlled by a wireless PS2 controller.
Those people are dead because the idiot CEO wanted diversity hires rather than experienced white men- my husband rode Nuclear subs for 20+ years, never went that deep.
He was also one of the guys in the sub. So he was a victim of his own stupidity.
Liberalism is a mental illness.
Bunch of lunatics nobody dares to criticize in today’s world.
They should all receive Darwin Awards.
Or the engineer of his faked death.
I think he probably interviewed a few 50-yr-old sub vets who told him he was an idiot.
Hence, his opinion that these people aren’t “inspiring.”
Woking your way all the way down to death at the bottom of the ocean, but getting to bask in your anti-white virtue™
Literally crushed by your hubris and belief that you are God… so tragic
Dying, but satisfying the Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion™ hiring quota to avoid the wrath of human resources. Why were there no trans engineers that worked on this project? Fucking cisgender, anti trans bigots
Dying, but satisfying the Diversity, Inclusion, and Equity™ hiring quota
D.I.E.
FTFY
Was this a means of escape for a Pakistani billionaire, who might be involved in something nefarious? Is the sub using the Terra Mar tunnels? Or it as simple as a catastrophic failure of the sub? Will it ever be “found“? I wouldn’t have signed on to something as iffy as being bolted in with no means of escape. Do we even know for sure that this even took place or are we being “told” this and expected to “believe” on face value? Millions are being spent to locate this sub. Is it another diversion? Another money laundering project? Another escape by a wealthy individual who will wind up in South America or Antarctica? What do we believe anymore?
Interesting hypothesis. It would be a great way to disappear.
My understanding is the sub is on a sled that sinks to 30 feet and then the sub scoots off and heads down. Losing comms is part of the trip. Wouldn't be all that difficult to either redirect the sub after losing comms, or maybe automate the trip and cover up the sub being empty.
With carbon fiber, that thing's just going to implode into a million shards and the only thing left to find might be the titanium domes on both ends, assuming they even survive. Won't be any body parts to recover.
There's enough money involved with the passengers to make this doable.
Also, I don't know if there were investors, but if this sub was a bust/scam, this is an easy way to make the whole thing, and the dude in charge, disappear with no repercussions.
Good points.
I wouldn’t doubt that they each had an emergency pill that they can take that will end their life peacefully rather than wait until the oxygen is running out. Praying for a happy outcome, but knowing that the waiver said “death” numerous times, you’d think these billionaires came prepared.
Nothing is ever just a happening. Everything is planned.
It could simply be some comms. Or it could be an op - either WH, or a BH being controlled by the WHs.
I did dig around the Paki billionaire guy, but didnt find anything notable.
Pakistani dude is a member of the World Economic Forum
He was also a Board Member of the Engro Corporation (mergers and acquisitions of diversified public-listed companies across textiles, fertilizers, foods, and energy), a WEF stooge working also for King Charles” Prince’s Trust International” (“help” vulnerable young people get their lives on track) What are the odds
I would pay someone to say I was on that sub and then disappear. If I were billionaire needing to escape.
Based on the Tucker UFO post from today, maybe they had a pre-arranged rendezvous with the UFO beings that purportedly come in and out of the ocean on their unexplainable crafts that can travel 100 knots under water.
Noone in the right mind would go submarine in carbon fiber.
The carbon wrap is like a fabric, a fabric balloon. Good for preventing explosion but useless for implosion. Made hard with epoxy resin but not inherently good at preventing the crushing forces from being underwater that deep. The only design that has any business being that deep is a titanium sphere.
Yup.
My post on GAW from yesterday! SOMETHING IS 'FISHY!' https://greatawakening.win/p/16bPnm4zeG/theory--missing-titan-submersibl/
This sub is kinda like me building a rocket ship in my back yard out of old tubing and wrecked AMC Hornet with the largest bottle rocket strapped to the bottom so I could fly to the moon. Not to mention being bolted in with no way to escape an explosive crash. Yeah, I think I'll see if I can get the guy over Virgin to bankroll me and fly as my co-pilot. Same thing, stupid and unbelievable and I mean if MSM is reporting it, look at what else is going on! Jus sayin!
This is what happens when you have a woke CEO...well, now a DEAD CEO. His absolute willful negligence got others killed.
Please I have not seen this mentioned ANYWHERE! They show the Titan is made using carbon fiber wrapping. Carbon fiber wrapping is used to make high pressure storage tanks for hydrogen used in fuel cell vehicles because they are good at containing the hydrogen and preventing EXPLOSION. However I can't understand why anyone would think this would be a good application for a submarine needing to prevent IMPLOSION. Carbon fiber wrap is essentially a really strong fabric, like a fabric balloon. They went to the bottom of the sea in a fabric balloon? This has to be fiction or is this what happens when woke infects STEM?
Pretty much. They didn't want any "50-year-old white guys" involved in their company, so this is what they get.
Very astute. Carbon fiber is only good in tension. Compression is another story. We don't build bridge abutments out of carbon fiber.
“Diversity” is the cover for incompetence.
Proven by lost human lives . 😞
A very good analysis here. If his concerns turns out to be true, there appears to be major lawsuits on the horizon. It's incredible to me to hear that the design of this sub may have been without safety being the foremost criteria and concern. I'll tell you this, being a 'top-sider', I always felt claustrophobic being below deck and as a result I always wanted to be top-side to enjoy the sweet beautiful air and sunshine. The reason I declined becoming a 'bubble-head' was for this reason. I can't imagine being on board a boomer or any other sub.
A sub is a fortress, protecting you from the siege of outside pressure. It is noteworthy that the Russians incorporate crew escape capsules in their designs, and we do not.
Good job.
They probably shouldnt hold their breath. Something fishy going on too
Jive Turkey! Hell yeah. Always has some good analysis.
Also plays submarine and ship based games on YouTube.
Forgive me for being conspiracy minded, but this all sounds unbelievably stupid. I understand having crazy adventures as a bored billionaire, I don't understand getting into the uncertified death trap described, bolted in from the outside, untested, and bringing your son with you.
Did any of these guys need to disappear for any particular reason? Is someone on Maxwells list, or suddenly bankrupt, or owed a big chunk of change? The stupidity of it and the big media push sounds like a setup.
Now why could they not have attached a small umbilical, a tether to that sub so if something failed that prevented comms or surfacing, or both, to allow it to be found. (I understand the risk of entanglement with something, but even if the line had a low sheer strength, how much would it have cost. And current could have been calculated to ensure tether keep down current from T. wreck.
Also I think I can reliable say that the horror of dying when the oxygen runs out is the waiting for oxygen to run out part. Death from CO2 poisoning is like going to sleep.
I say this with some authority because I have been rushed to hospital and placed in intensive care twice for this exact thing.
Maybe naming boats something other than "Titanic" or "Titan" would be good, I dunno
Sounds have been heard:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-65972610
Yeah, a banging sound. Every 30 minutes.
That's a gavel banging on a bench in the brand new gitmo courtrooms. The Titans are finally sinking. It's OceanGate, dontcha know...So much bigger than Watergate!
Why, oh why, couldn't Arnold Schwarzenegger and Hillary Clinton have been bigger Titanic enthusiasts?!?!?!
Wow. Stockton borrowed from aviation where the first step is test flight or? or it's an escape plan.
TLDW pls
Well, there will be a lot more rich relatives now that all these billionaires died on the sub.
I can't even understand why they went in the first place. That tiny little window for 5 people? What are they gonna do, all sit there and jockey for position to see out? An inescapable pod? Why would you even agree to that? For the money, there had better be a pilot (not just an xbox controller), a SEAT to sit on (not the floor!), good food and a place to go pee. PLUS, a way to get out! It was like sending them down in a windowless (almost), inescapable, uncomfortable pod, and expecting them to be all high-fiving each other. They probably couldn't even move... or see out the window! I doubt there's knocking. I bet they've all frozen to death at the very least.