Some random twitter account is posting twitter bullshit, that's what's going on. Some random anon claims to have sources from the CIA, and people just go with it Lmfao
We’ve seen wild speculation and unverified reports, but on the ground it looks like a photo op.
But if you want to know what I THINK is happening; I think Prigozhin is doing what he always does, which is say crazy shit to create the illusion of disarray, to cover for Russian tactical movement/assaults.
Just like he did in Bakhmut, he claimed Russia wasn’t giving him ammo, he was going to pull all his troops out, wanted Shoigu’s head on a platter, etc., only to turn around and finish taking Bakhmut shortly after.
I think Prigozhin and Putin are conducting a psyop to disguise Russian troop movement to either launch an offensive, or coerce Ukraine into attacking.
The only place this is a civil war is on the Internet, because the 🇺🇦 folks are eager to say and believe anything to deflect from the catastrophic losses in their holy “counter-offensive”.
Just like Belgorod, in a couple days, the NAFO trolls will be on to the next thing because this turned out to be nothing.
I take into account that the Wagner forces were replaced by the Chechen Ahmad, that among the Prigozhin Wagner people are ex-cons. And window dressing is a real thing to play a number on the opponent, i.e. NATO/CIA/ mercenary army:ISIS.
Wait and see.
added: Interesting perspective from Belarus: Military Summary.
Basically, Prigoshin did not had his contract renewed since May 23. Ukro is busy with a massive mobilization. Advantage to the current situation regarding Putin: He can declare Martial Law.
It may simply be a political stunt, or an issue that puts to much power in the hands of the Russian Army leadership, as they have their own personal army, 100.000 men.
The Deep State is trying to make Russia go to war against the US. The Deep State desperately wants a US war with Russia for at least five reasons. First, they can't let Putin have Ukraine, and all the secrets held there. Second, they can spin it as, "see, Biden is tough on Russia while Trump loved Putin." Third, they can keep spending like drunken sailors on much more than just "Ukraine!" - they can then spend trillions on an entire world war, and they make lots of money on any government spending. Fourth, Putin is an impediment to the New World Order. Fifth, in the midst of a world war, they can more easily trample our freedoms.
This developmemt had to have been expected by everyone playing the game. These are mercenaries. They're only loyal to money. The cabal conjurs fiat money out of thin air. Predictable. So what now? It's like reading a mystery novel where the author really has you stumped.
My guess is the CIA's influence and bribe to Wagner will be considered an act of war, which has always been part of the cabal's long term plans.
All I can say with certainty is that the objective must be to end the war, not overthrow the Putin regime. Defeating a military like Russia's is impossible without air superiority.
Prigozhin was in organized crime before he became a hot dog salesman. Then he became a billionaire. I suspect his success as a hot dog salesman has to do with his his organized crime ties. He became a billionaire by becoming close to Putin and trusted by Putin and was given massive government contracts.
Private military companies in Russia are all about contracts. Yes, the soldiers in them are mercenaries but the companies themselves or organs of Russian state power. It was easier and cheaper to use private military companies in Eastern Ukraine since 2014 and it gave Putin plausible deniability that these weren't really the Russian army. Wagner has fought in Libya, Syria, Central Africa and other places where Russia has wanted to project global power.
Prigozhin got to form Wagner because Putin wanted him to and Putin trusted him.
But it might have been a mistake to give Prigozhin his own fighting force. And seems he was getting too big for other people's tastes. Russia issued a decree recently that all fighters for private military companies would have to sign a contract with the Russian government and thus be under Russian army control.
Prigozhin so this is a threat to him and vowed never to agree. He saw that others were trying to move in and take these contracts from him. Valuable contracts. Prigozhin is also GRU connected. He was part of the whole network. He was Putin's preferred contractor for 20 years now.
I don't see this thase CIA involved. There's just too much history of Russian politics and strife behind it
It is very troubling to know with certainty that we cannot trust narratives coming at us from half way around the world. Twitter is filling with narratives and counter narratives. The 24 or 48 hour rule of suspending belief is in effect.
Some random twitter account is posting twitter bullshit, that's what's going on. Some random anon claims to have sources from the CIA, and people just go with it Lmfao
Yes, he seems to be claiming support for his claim by, OSINTdefender's tweet.
But nothing in OSINTdefender's timeline has any support for this.
Smoke and fucking mirrors...Its BS..
Yes, there's a history of fake fighting between Prigozhin and the Russian military command.
Prigozhin would not be in place if he weren't onside.
I Agree...I just posted about a ' Maskirovka'....Its a military Doctrine....Quite interesting...
Cui bono? The Russians.
Yep. Exactly my thoughts.
Same here brother
None of us do.
I'm just waiting for the "Jericho" tv show moment here in the USA...
That was a pretty good show.
It was... And they cancelled it a few episodes into the second season.
It was giving away to much of their plan.
I have an easy formula to look at whos who and whos what. Check at wikipedoa early life section at the figures currently at spotlight.
Bioclandestine posted:
We’ve seen wild speculation and unverified reports, but on the ground it looks like a photo op.
But if you want to know what I THINK is happening; I think Prigozhin is doing what he always does, which is say crazy shit to create the illusion of disarray, to cover for Russian tactical movement/assaults.
Just like he did in Bakhmut, he claimed Russia wasn’t giving him ammo, he was going to pull all his troops out, wanted Shoigu’s head on a platter, etc., only to turn around and finish taking Bakhmut shortly after.
I think Prigozhin and Putin are conducting a psyop to disguise Russian troop movement to either launch an offensive, or coerce Ukraine into attacking.
The only place this is a civil war is on the Internet, because the 🇺🇦 folks are eager to say and believe anything to deflect from the catastrophic losses in their holy “counter-offensive”.
Just like Belgorod, in a couple days, the NAFO trolls will be on to the next thing because this turned out to be nothing.
It tend to agree with your assessment.
I take into account that the Wagner forces were replaced by the Chechen Ahmad, that among the Prigozhin Wagner people are ex-cons. And window dressing is a real thing to play a number on the opponent, i.e. NATO/CIA/ mercenary army:ISIS.
Wait and see.
added: Interesting perspective from Belarus: Military Summary.
https://rumble.com/v2w2lg0-military-coup-or-planned-action-military-summary-and-analysis-for-2023.06.2.html
Basically, Prigoshin did not had his contract renewed since May 23. Ukro is busy with a massive mobilization. Advantage to the current situation regarding Putin: He can declare Martial Law.
It may simply be a political stunt, or an issue that puts to much power in the hands of the Russian Army leadership, as they have their own personal army, 100.000 men.
The Deep State is trying to make Russia go to war against the US. The Deep State desperately wants a US war with Russia for at least five reasons. First, they can't let Putin have Ukraine, and all the secrets held there. Second, they can spin it as, "see, Biden is tough on Russia while Trump loved Putin." Third, they can keep spending like drunken sailors on much more than just "Ukraine!" - they can then spend trillions on an entire world war, and they make lots of money on any government spending. Fourth, Putin is an impediment to the New World Order. Fifth, in the midst of a world war, they can more easily trample our freedoms.
If we're at war, then they round up anyone that doesn't be support the cause.
This developmemt had to have been expected by everyone playing the game. These are mercenaries. They're only loyal to money. The cabal conjurs fiat money out of thin air. Predictable. So what now? It's like reading a mystery novel where the author really has you stumped.
My guess is the CIA's influence and bribe to Wagner will be considered an act of war, which has always been part of the cabal's long term plans.
All I can say with certainty is that the objective must be to end the war, not overthrow the Putin regime. Defeating a military like Russia's is impossible without air superiority.
If CIA bribed Prigozhin?
He would be dead by now.
0% chance of this.
This is 100% BS weak mockingbird psyop.
Or fantastic amount of Putin trolling the MSM.
Where did @amuse get their source?
From deep inside their anus, like literally 100% everyone who claims to have sources from the military and from the CIA.
I don't know why this even got posted here.
"hey it me ur fren from depe inside da CIA... Can I share with ur towtter that we convinced the russian merc that Putin was gonna merc him, lol"
Dammit, all I wanted to do was go bowling with my cousin
I think he said he knows a guy.
There's been a schism between PMW and MoD this entire SMO
Ugh more acronyms and 3 letter agencies.
In the same way that pro wrestling has schisms
Yes, this has been a long time coming
The bottom left photo has bricks on pallets on both near and far corners.
Pre-planted for paid rioters?
This is what happens when you let criminals fight your battles for you.
Maybe. But if they're wh guys who have been rooting out Ukrainian bio weapons then they're not stupid. Could be playing along.
I was just thinking it’s interesting that he is doing the Wests bidding.
Well, now we know where the missing 6.2 billion dollars went…..
Isn't it ironic?
Excuse my ignorance but who/what da fuq is Wagner?
"Wagner Group" is a paramilitary force of mercenaries who work for Russia. It's they who captured Bakhmut (Ukrainian city) the other day.
Private military company that was among the best fighters Russia had in Ukraine.
Headed by a guy who's been close to Putin for at least 20 years. He had tons of government contracts and became an oligarch in a billionaire.
Just last year he received the highest award that Russia gives out
Now he seems to have turned on at least the Russian military if not Putin himself.
Russia's domestic security service the FSB has issued a warrant for his arrest tonight which means they probably had Putin support to do that.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yevgeny_Prigozhin
Keep in mind. Prigozhin was a hotdog salesman who never served in the military.
Putin also has GRU operatives close to him.
This is total CIA stupid psyop.
Prigozhin was in organized crime before he became a hot dog salesman. Then he became a billionaire. I suspect his success as a hot dog salesman has to do with his his organized crime ties. He became a billionaire by becoming close to Putin and trusted by Putin and was given massive government contracts.
Private military companies in Russia are all about contracts. Yes, the soldiers in them are mercenaries but the companies themselves or organs of Russian state power. It was easier and cheaper to use private military companies in Eastern Ukraine since 2014 and it gave Putin plausible deniability that these weren't really the Russian army. Wagner has fought in Libya, Syria, Central Africa and other places where Russia has wanted to project global power.
Prigozhin got to form Wagner because Putin wanted him to and Putin trusted him.
But it might have been a mistake to give Prigozhin his own fighting force. And seems he was getting too big for other people's tastes. Russia issued a decree recently that all fighters for private military companies would have to sign a contract with the Russian government and thus be under Russian army control.
Prigozhin so this is a threat to him and vowed never to agree. He saw that others were trying to move in and take these contracts from him. Valuable contracts. Prigozhin is also GRU connected. He was part of the whole network. He was Putin's preferred contractor for 20 years now.
I don't see this thase CIA involved. There's just too much history of Russian politics and strife behind it
Mercenaries for Russia
Total BS
I believe the CIA is involved, but I don't think Prigozhin is going to topple Putin.
I would not be at all surprised if the CIA has their hands in this fiasco.
That said, the only reason the CIA could plant that seed is because the Russian military's leadership is an absolute shit show in the first place.
I'd be surprised if they weren't.
It is very troubling to know with certainty that we cannot trust narratives coming at us from half way around the world. Twitter is filling with narratives and counter narratives. The 24 or 48 hour rule of suspending belief is in effect.
The U.S. is famously known to leave people hung out to dry.
Clowns In Action.. being Clowned🫡
Just so happens to be a convenient pallet of bricks there on the corner.
I thought Chris Miller clipped the CIA’s (Military) NUTS, prior to his departure…🤔
IMHO, I simply don't believe this and will wait the standard 72 hours.
If this is possible, it is grotesque.
I see it as a good way to clean up DS in Russia or at least appear weak when strong.
This is basically the only hypothesis that fits the facts. and it fits very well.