Yep. We do NOT want him to be speaker, which the shit show under Biden is progressing. It's not time to wind that all back yet. Only once he is President in the White House again. And then, its game on.
Yeah, only if they can immediately roll the speakership into the presidency by removing Biden / Harris. As a matter of principle that is way better than winning a third election. You don’t fix 2020 by taking the loss and winning 4 years later.
I disagree on a number of points, but based on my view of the current plan/war.
I think that Trump Admin #1 was a disruption and set up (preparation) term. Cabal ties cut, modelling how good things can be under MAGA.
Trump admin #2 is the current term, with devolution in place, and Biden in the White house. This is the term where everything from the deep state system falls to pieces: the finances, the military, the institutions (2-tier justice), the Ukraine money laundering proxy state systems, etc. Biden needs to be in control during this phase, so that ALL the political fallout, etc. falls on him, not Trump.
Trump Admin #3 is Trump from 2025 onwards. Everything will be put back in order, and even better than Term #1. Justice will be executed, the systems will be reformed because the public will want it, demand it, and understand why it is necessary.
Getting DJT in to the white house via speakership would mean that all the rubbish that still needs to happen (i.e. collapse of the USD, etc) would havppen under him.
In a speech just last week, he said directly, " in my second term, which we are sort of having now.... but I don't want the results of this term, it's really bad" .
Regarding 2020, I'm starting to think that in fact, it will be via that method: by winning 2024 and then, with the public mandate fully in place, totally cleaning out the system. Letting them steal 2020 was the price required to expose it all and then be able to execute full justice.
That's my working hypothesis at the moment, anyway. But as has been the case for yonks now, at the end of the day, I don't KNOW. I only suspect.
Too many moving parts for this plan to be feasible. And too many things can do absolutely wrong. As much as anons love to hype about this, an honest analysis of the plan shows it will not fly.
President Trump will not be getting in through the back door.
He won 2020 he does not need gimmicks to get back in.
He has already hinted that the 2020 fraud will be proven within 6 months.
We are in the pause period right now. Why in the world would he want to be part of the sh!tshow that is happening in congress now, and for the next 6 months?
Once the fraud is proven he gets back in rightfully.
This should seeve as a great tool to get them all behind him as President. Or else he will be speaker and nothing gets through congress without him agreeing in advance.
If he is truly the president right NOW, which I believe he is, HE COULD NOT HOLD BOTH THE OFFICE OF SPEAKER AND COMMANDER IN CHIEF AT THE SAME TIME, could he? I think not. Everything is being done by the book, squeaky clean, so no, he might give advice but that will be all in my opinion. The reason for the change right now with McCarthy, is because Trump is getting ready to come back very, very soon and he NEEDS the correct person in that position as Speaker....someone who is FEARLESS because so many are going to be exposed in the next few months and he can't have someone who is fearful.
It May be possible in that Trump is not President of the Corporation, but of pre-corp America. Perhaps he could hold the office of Speaker of the House of the Corporation at the same time?
This is the 'logical' play. But, after waiting so long for anything, I just want to see some libs faces fucking melt if Trump got the nod and actually did it.
Jordan will be great. This could have been the plan all along. In that sense, McCarthy was a good in between move. It was probably the plan all along, in fact, it might have been the deal Trump made with McCarthy
Could it be MTG? She was all in, in support og Trump before she was elected, but seemed to have become RINO in the house and went all-in for McCarthy. The dems have seen the same, so perhaps they would vote for her now?
Ya this looks like the unilateral is being played, they know it, but they can’t ignore it. Either that or the white hats know it’s the only path to the presidency for him short and long term. Keeps him on the front page too.
You must have listened to Dave over on X22 yesterday. Yea, I don't think Trump wants the Speakership. He'd rather drive the boat instead of being the steward. There are other wonderful Patriots who are very capable of stepping up to the plate and do just as well as Trump. Trump is a Corporate leader, not a branch manager type so once he gets someone into the Speakership then as President he can really get things rolling for the American people. This is going to get good, and I'm wishing it would already be happening, the anticipation of the event is what's killing me. Let's get it on already.
Yea, yesterdays show had a couple of very good points. First was the power of the ProTempre House Speaker. What he can and cannot do. Plus nothing can be passed until there is a real Speaker sworn in. Could be a month or two before that happens and Ukraine aide is not being released because the Speaker has to be in place to make it law. Secondly is the SOTH and Trumps not wanting it. Good stuff.
Biden said yesterday that in the coming days there will be an announcement on alternative ukraine funding. They are still getting their money without congress involvement
He will rob Peter to pay Paul. Probably pull money out of the Postal System Retirement Fund and then write the fund an IOU, and never pay it back. There are ways around Congress.
The only reason Trump would be speaker is if it was part of the plan.
He did say at CPAC that we would be ending Pelosis career by removing her from her Senate seat, then removing the criminal Biden family from the white house before 2024 or sooner.
He likes to bring in the "sooner" statement... could be part of the plan to enter. Who knows?
I love him, I love everything he has done and is working on doing for us. I would love to see more of him and would love to see what he could do as SOTH. I hope he knows just how much we all respect, honor, and love him.
I cannot picture him in that role, at all. he is an executive, period, his restless energy and intelligence makes him almost physically incapable of sitting through 75% of the bullshit of government bureaucracy. It would be like assigning a phd professor of nuclear physics to over see a day care (which is how I see Congress).
Trump isn't going to become speaker. it is a full time job based in Washington. Trump lives in Florida, and plays golf most of the time. He would also have to contend with multiple court cases, which would take him away from. the role
The republcians have a slim majority in the lower house which is all that stops Biden and his agenda. Having a part time speaker would be a massive boost to the Dems
Are you kidding? Congress works, at BEST 6 months out of the year, not counting weekends, holidays, and any other time they decide they need to be in recess.
Then half of THAT time they don’t even show up. If they do, it’s just to grandstand for the cameras so they can get screen time in for their next campaign run.
Trump would probably get bored more than anything.
I didn’t post this because it is hopium, I hope he doesn’t become Speaker. I posted it because it sounds like he is saying he’s open to the idea, which surprises me. My belief is it is a major bluff.
nothing wrong with that, if I campaigned and was in court as much as he seems to be I'd probably golf too in my free time. great unwind and no doubt a comfort for Trump.
He is CIC. Were in devolution. You cant be both. But saying this he will get his current persecutors in high gear. Theyll really show their ass trying to convict him on these ridiculous sham charges. And maybe that's the point. Look at the timing. Timing is everything.
Trump has got to know who the next Speaker will be and if he picks the right one, there will be no reason for him to take on that role. While I would love to see him rip up the hard copy of the SOTU speech, we cannot stoop to their level of pettiness and unlawfulness. We do need to excel in fortitude and intention
Trump being a speaker of the house would be a horrible idea.
Once he is the speaker of the house, they get rid of Biden, and Kamala, and he rides out the remainder of Biden’s presidency.
Since Trump has already been president once, that means that he cannot run again after that. So we would only have one year with Trump instead of four.
Am I wrong? Is this how the system works. Please correct me if I am, but this is my understanding.
That's the point, though. He's not "running" a campaign for SoH. If he's nominated and confirmed (highly, highly unlikely given that Dems have to vote on it, too) without actually running for the position, then that rule is moot.
It's not restricted to anyone "running" for SOH. It concerns anyone who is SOH.
" A member of the Republican Leadership shall step aside if indicted for a felony for which a sentence of two or more years imprisonment may be imposed.”
The entire purpose is so that the SOH isn't sitting in prison, when they need to, you know, be doing SOH stuff. Whatever that stuff actually is, who knows. Congress works less than any group I have ever seen. It wouldn't make much sense for them to elect a SOH who could potentially be going to prison. They'll just have to do it all over again.
These aren't laws. They're just rules Republicans have come up with. They can just ignore them if they want to. It's not like the Republican Party is known for their upstanding behavior and spotless ethics.
There is no reason that I can see for him to be speaker. But just the threat that he could be will help the selection process.
Yep. We do NOT want him to be speaker, which the shit show under Biden is progressing. It's not time to wind that all back yet. Only once he is President in the White House again. And then, its game on.
Yeah, only if they can immediately roll the speakership into the presidency by removing Biden / Harris. As a matter of principle that is way better than winning a third election. You don’t fix 2020 by taking the loss and winning 4 years later.
I disagree on a number of points, but based on my view of the current plan/war.
I think that Trump Admin #1 was a disruption and set up (preparation) term. Cabal ties cut, modelling how good things can be under MAGA.
Trump admin #2 is the current term, with devolution in place, and Biden in the White house. This is the term where everything from the deep state system falls to pieces: the finances, the military, the institutions (2-tier justice), the Ukraine money laundering proxy state systems, etc. Biden needs to be in control during this phase, so that ALL the political fallout, etc. falls on him, not Trump.
Trump Admin #3 is Trump from 2025 onwards. Everything will be put back in order, and even better than Term #1. Justice will be executed, the systems will be reformed because the public will want it, demand it, and understand why it is necessary.
Getting DJT in to the white house via speakership would mean that all the rubbish that still needs to happen (i.e. collapse of the USD, etc) would havppen under him.
In a speech just last week, he said directly, " in my second term, which we are sort of having now.... but I don't want the results of this term, it's really bad" .
Regarding 2020, I'm starting to think that in fact, it will be via that method: by winning 2024 and then, with the public mandate fully in place, totally cleaning out the system. Letting them steal 2020 was the price required to expose it all and then be able to execute full justice.
That's my working hypothesis at the moment, anyway. But as has been the case for yonks now, at the end of the day, I don't KNOW. I only suspect.
I agree.
Posturing this way may make Demorats think Jim Jordan is a better choice than Trump!
🔥 "... no reason ..."???!!!
Too many moving parts for this plan to be feasible. And too many things can do absolutely wrong. As much as anons love to hype about this, an honest analysis of the plan shows it will not fly.
Matthew 19:26
Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”
Exactly.
President Trump will not be getting in through the back door. He won 2020 he does not need gimmicks to get back in. He has already hinted that the 2020 fraud will be proven within 6 months. We are in the pause period right now. Why in the world would he want to be part of the sh!tshow that is happening in congress now, and for the next 6 months?
Once the fraud is proven he gets back in rightfully.
Matthew 19:26
Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”
This should seeve as a great tool to get them all behind him as President. Or else he will be speaker and nothing gets through congress without him agreeing in advance.
Moves and Counter Moves.
Betcha he wont actually become the Speaker.
I dont think so either. He doesnt really say he will he says he will help. He also reiterates he is president.
If he is truly the president right NOW, which I believe he is, HE COULD NOT HOLD BOTH THE OFFICE OF SPEAKER AND COMMANDER IN CHIEF AT THE SAME TIME, could he? I think not. Everything is being done by the book, squeaky clean, so no, he might give advice but that will be all in my opinion. The reason for the change right now with McCarthy, is because Trump is getting ready to come back very, very soon and he NEEDS the correct person in that position as Speaker....someone who is FEARLESS because so many are going to be exposed in the next few months and he can't have someone who is fearful.
It May be possible in that Trump is not President of the Corporation, but of pre-corp America. Perhaps he could hold the office of Speaker of the House of the Corporation at the same time?
Just spit-ballin' really.
Mr. President CiC Speaker.
Aka GEOTUS.
Amen! Awomen!
Trump is going to force the Democrats to vote for Jordan! KEK The chess master!
This is the 'logical' play. But, after waiting so long for anything, I just want to see some libs faces fucking melt if Trump got the nod and actually did it.
Jordan will be great. This could have been the plan all along. In that sense, McCarthy was a good in between move. It was probably the plan all along, in fact, it might have been the deal Trump made with McCarthy
Could it be MTG? She was all in, in support og Trump before she was elected, but seemed to have become RINO in the house and went all-in for McCarthy. The dems have seen the same, so perhaps they would vote for her now?
Trump still holds her in high regard, refusing multiple times to publicly denounce her, even praising her many times, despite RINO appearances.
Doubtful that the Demonic Rats will vote for her.
Trump is trolling, as usual. It's rent free leftist brain occupation.
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/111181741389282855
Ya this looks like the unilateral is being played, they know it, but they can’t ignore it. Either that or the white hats know it’s the only path to the presidency for him short and long term. Keeps him on the front page too.
That's my Papa Trump!! 😁
Help with selection process....love it! Wonder who he has in mind. Jim Jordan??
Someone (MAGA) in the house should take on the extra duty, Trump can't be the only one expected to extend himself.
He likes to troll the media
My interpretation of “whatever is necessary “ could include temporarily being Speaker.
Late to this convo but - Q Post 2957
“placeholder” “short term position” “temporary role. cause destruction then move on” “Scaramucci model”
I think this is fleshing people out
He also cant be speaker due to felony indictments.
So they would have to change the rules first ... somehow.
You must have listened to Dave over on X22 yesterday. Yea, I don't think Trump wants the Speakership. He'd rather drive the boat instead of being the steward. There are other wonderful Patriots who are very capable of stepping up to the plate and do just as well as Trump. Trump is a Corporate leader, not a branch manager type so once he gets someone into the Speakership then as President he can really get things rolling for the American people. This is going to get good, and I'm wishing it would already be happening, the anticipation of the event is what's killing me. Let's get it on already.
Gonna listen to X22 now... :)
Yea, yesterdays show had a couple of very good points. First was the power of the ProTempre House Speaker. What he can and cannot do. Plus nothing can be passed until there is a real Speaker sworn in. Could be a month or two before that happens and Ukraine aide is not being released because the Speaker has to be in place to make it law. Secondly is the SOTH and Trumps not wanting it. Good stuff.
Biden said yesterday that in the coming days there will be an announcement on alternative ukraine funding. They are still getting their money without congress involvement
He will rob Peter to pay Paul. Probably pull money out of the Postal System Retirement Fund and then write the fund an IOU, and never pay it back. There are ways around Congress.
The only reason Trump would be speaker is if it was part of the plan.
He did say at CPAC that we would be ending Pelosis career by removing her from her Senate seat, then removing the criminal Biden family from the white house before 2024 or sooner.
He likes to bring in the "sooner" statement... could be part of the plan to enter. Who knows?
I love him, I love everything he has done and is working on doing for us. I would love to see more of him and would love to see what he could do as SOTH. I hope he knows just how much we all respect, honor, and love him.
I cannot picture him in that role, at all. he is an executive, period, his restless energy and intelligence makes him almost physically incapable of sitting through 75% of the bullshit of government bureaucracy. It would be like assigning a phd professor of nuclear physics to over see a day care (which is how I see Congress).
Trump isn't going to become speaker. it is a full time job based in Washington. Trump lives in Florida, and plays golf most of the time. He would also have to contend with multiple court cases, which would take him away from. the role
The republcians have a slim majority in the lower house which is all that stops Biden and his agenda. Having a part time speaker would be a massive boost to the Dems
People need to stop injecting so much Hopium
Are you kidding? Congress works, at BEST 6 months out of the year, not counting weekends, holidays, and any other time they decide they need to be in recess.
Then half of THAT time they don’t even show up. If they do, it’s just to grandstand for the cameras so they can get screen time in for their next campaign run.
Trump would probably get bored more than anything.
I didn’t post this because it is hopium, I hope he doesn’t become Speaker. I posted it because it sounds like he is saying he’s open to the idea, which surprises me. My belief is it is a major bluff.
It's not a major bluff
It is major bullshit
?
nothing wrong with that, if I campaigned and was in court as much as he seems to be I'd probably golf too in my free time. great unwind and no doubt a comfort for Trump.
It was said as a slam.
Maybe I read it with an attitude.. idk.
Trump deserves his leisure time. He owns many golf courses, It is his business
He is CIC. Were in devolution. You cant be both. But saying this he will get his current persecutors in high gear. Theyll really show their ass trying to convict him on these ridiculous sham charges. And maybe that's the point. Look at the timing. Timing is everything.
Trump has got to know who the next Speaker will be and if he picks the right one, there will be no reason for him to take on that role. While I would love to see him rip up the hard copy of the SOTU speech, we cannot stoop to their level of pettiness and unlawfulness. We do need to excel in fortitude and intention
Disinformation is necessary. -- Q
Just imagine the liberal heads shooting off like rockets when they think that he might....
Trump being a speaker of the house would be a horrible idea.
Once he is the speaker of the house, they get rid of Biden, and Kamala, and he rides out the remainder of Biden’s presidency.
Since Trump has already been president once, that means that he cannot run again after that. So we would only have one year with Trump instead of four.
Am I wrong? Is this how the system works. Please correct me if I am, but this is my understanding.
He could run again. He would only be prohibited if he served more than two years of the current term. We passed that point in January of this year.
Oh… Thank you. Well, in that case… It could be a good idea. However, if you become speaker, they’re gonna come at him hard with Michael.
This is bullshit, Republican rules state no one may run for the speakers seat if they are indicted of a crime.
That's the point, though. He's not "running" a campaign for SoH. If he's nominated and confirmed (highly, highly unlikely given that Dems have to vote on it, too) without actually running for the position, then that rule is moot.
It's not restricted to anyone "running" for SOH. It concerns anyone who is SOH.
" A member of the Republican Leadership shall step aside if indicted for a felony for which a sentence of two or more years imprisonment may be imposed.”
The entire purpose is so that the SOH isn't sitting in prison, when they need to, you know, be doing SOH stuff. Whatever that stuff actually is, who knows. Congress works less than any group I have ever seen. It wouldn't make much sense for them to elect a SOH who could potentially be going to prison. They'll just have to do it all over again.
These aren't laws. They're just rules Republicans have come up with. They can just ignore them if they want to. It's not like the Republican Party is known for their upstanding behavior and spotless ethics.
https://www.gop.gov/conference-rules-of-the-118th-congress/
Sauce?