The odds are Merchan will sentence DJT to jail. What happens if he goes to Rikers and the Dems remove his security? Can they remove the Secret Service detail assigned to protect him? You know they will try anything and everything.
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Would be tough. The Secret Service detail is mandated by an actual law authorized by Congress. Unless a federal court (and eventually SCOTUS) rules that law invalid for some reason, or unless Congress acts to change the provisions of the law, a judge does not have the authority simply to remove the SS detail.
Trump said, "You'll love the way this movie ends."
https://democrats-homeland.house.gov/imo/media/doc/disgraced_former_protectees_act_factsheet1.pdf
How long do you think it would take the Dems in congress to write a bill removing SS protection from convicted felons? How many Rinos would gladly sign on?
It will be their DEATH WISH
Who's "their" ? Don't answer, just think about it. This isn't a topic I even want to discuss on this forum. Too many would use our freedom of speech against us saying we're conspirators. I pray to God it doesn't happen.
I agree 💯,, especially the discussion warning!
I pray daily that none of this happens to our President or to Us.
My outlook swings on an incredibly large arc these days.
And it's possible that's even the whole point of this charade. To get Congress to remove the SS protection of ex presidents convicted of a crime. Then they will be able take Obama et. al. without provoking an incident. I suppose we'll find out soon enough.
GOOD POINT .
Bennie Thompson is attempting to introduce a bill to remove trumps security.
It's already been proposed. Benny Thompson introduced the "Disgraced former protectees act" on on April 19 to strip secret service protection from any convicted felon. https://democrats-homeland.house.gov/news/legislation/ranking-member-thompson-introduces-legislation-to-ensure-no-secret-service-protection-for-convicted-felons-sentenced-to-prison
Yes under current law. When they pass a new law in the dead of night with the help of the RINOS, then what?
I think hunters conviction has a part in that. Counter moves are a bitch.
If that happens then DJT still has control over the USMC
Why do some of you keep thinking that'd he'd ever go into a regular prison instead of Club Fed or house arrest like any other politician who ever got convicted? Also we have so many cases of white collar crimes where the convicted was still walking free for many months if not years while exhausting appeals. And no, they can't take away secret service and that protection detail alone would be another reason they can't just stick him in general pop. Think!
They sent Navarro to Rikers. That's why.
Now you think. DJT is the one man who the entire deep state, all the Dems and Rinos want gone by any means possible. What might be a white collar crime to the rest of the world will in Merchan's court be considered the same as high treason in order to get him behind bars. Not just bars but inside a place where a $mil could buy a whack on anyone. The same people who pushed for his arrest and trial can easily write a law to abolish SS protection for felons.
Why do some people keep thinking Trump would ever get the same type of light-touch sentencing as other white-collar convicts, instead of more of the same hateful, vindictive, abusive, unconstitutional treatment he's been getting for years on end?
Because they are doomers.
I'm serious, there seems to be a pervasive Debbie downer doomers vibe that has infected this board ever since the kangaroo Court. Always dragging the high energy down around here.
Have more faith, everyone. If you do think Trump's a goner and Q is a liar when they say Trump's safe, then march yourself back to Patriots(for)win and wallow in despair there, and let us GAW men work in peace.
One fake newser said they want Trump just enough time to send him to Rikers island.
It won't happen.
I believe they will try and fail. You have a LOT of things that would have to go just right for him to see the inside of a prison cell.
You would need to have whatever ruling happen, you would have to have the sherrifs come and get him (which wouldn't happen bc you have to coordinate w SS) you will still have to have a sentencing case as well, then you have endless appeals eventually to scotus, so ALL of that would have to go right.
SS has already met with court officials. Didn't Trump say he'd willingly go to jail to prove how corrupt they are? Yes, DJT would make bank on it as the money would pour in. But I'm not thinking about all the things that would have to go right for them. I'm thinking about the one wrong thing that could happen to Trump.
Optics matter
If it could have happened, it would have. The fact that it hasn't should give you some hope.
The system isn’t set up (generally) for a person convicted of a crime to stay out of prison while they exhaust appeals. While there are exceptions, it would be highly unusual for him to stay out for years pending appeal.
If Trump is, lets say somehow, sentenced to prison we can be sure we have reached Q Drop 34 and 55.
u/#q34
When DJT was in office there were Q posts “as the world turns” which by most accounts was a hat tip to the black hats on a foiled assassination attempt.
The moment Hillary wants to go scorched earth they’ll sentence him to house arrest in Mar a lago then have the “Soviet sub” hit the house with a nuke so they can have the ww3 they want so bad.
Mar-a-Largo? Why not Trump Tower? Especially since this is a NY conviction. Let them nuke NY.
For President Trump, I believe that could be considered His Precipice. And also for the Secret Service and Military.
i'm thinking that there this far in getting trump that they will get another mug shot but with orange jump suit to splatter on MSM 24/7,i think jail/prison wont happen ,but probation with 80 hrs of some kind of community service to just humiliate him. the new mugshot will bring in millions.
I'm pre-ordering that mugshot T shirt LOL
When DJT looks worried, I'll get worried. Until then, enjoy the ride!
Secret service is required by law to watch all viable candidates. When they lock Trump uo, secret service will be at the gate with him. I belive general population will be protecting Trump aswell. Trumps prison rallies are gonna be nuts lol. Sit tight, road was never meant to be smooth.
Until one of the prisoners is told to off Trump and his mother will be given $5 mil.
I see your point.
Ex post facto laws are expressly forbidden by the United States Constitution in Article 1, Section 9, Clause 3 (with respect to federal laws) and Article 1, Section 10 (with respect to state laws).
Only when there's courts willing to follow precedent. Only when there aren't politicians, lawyers and big money donors not willing to use lawfare. The U.S. Constitution also guarantees the right to free speech, the right to bear arms. Can you carry a firearm in DC? Were people banned from social media? Did the feds arrest and jail protesters who did absolutely nothing wrong on Jan. 6?
In the past, laws were followed. But the DOJ and the left have made laws fungible through legal contortion and distortion proven in Trump's trials. We live in a time where the Constitution is interpreted surrounded by fun house mirrors. Where judge's daughters make $millions from friends of those making the allegations.
What’s a constitution? - Democrat party
In my experience, you really aren't supposed to have concerns here. You know, whites hats in control, God wins, etc. Your observations combined centuries of historical evil deeds are to be washed away with hope. Negativity is viewed as not buying into Trump and Q, regardless of how much you know, or how long you have been studying conspiracy, or how much you are truly invested in believing that great things are to come, and how hopeful you are that Q team and Trump are at the helm of this great awakening. If you aren't 100% that we win with a walk in the park you are seen as near 0% that we win at all.
They are trying to remove his protection as we speak.
https://democrats-homeland.house.gov/imo/media/doc/disgraced_former_protectees_act_factsheet1.pdf
Good find.
Few things in life are either all white or all black. We live in a world of grays. That's why the best laid plans can falter. Everyone knows the left will do everything and anything to say Biden or whoever replaces him won the election. Will the clouds be seeded to rain or snow in heavy GOP areas? Will the avian flu magically appear a few weeks before election day? Will the MSM give early projections of Biden or whoever replaces him winning? Will Philadelphia and Chicago, Detroit and Atlanta have delays in finishing the count on election night? Probably. Were the election machines outlawed? No. Basically nothing has changed since last time we voted for Trump. One thing I wonder though, will the country go peaceably about it's business should Trump be declared the loser? Will any challenges be heard by the courts? Will the military jump in? On who's side?
If I don't come back to this at some point, my point will be made in the extreme as I will only be absent by means beyond my control.
Either way, what goes around comes around. They are opening the doors for the same to happen to them.
That will be marketed to the world as political revenge and retribution and used as a flail to hammer Trump.
Who cares, he ain't running for reelection. And I think the info coming out between now and Nov will be so savage even normies will be calling for tribunals.
I won't think like that, I doubt like 99.9 percent he would be sent to Rikers. Even convicted of a felony, it is white collar non violent offense.
Trump could probably pay the entire prison population for protection.
{edit} And, offer rewards to the prisoners for credible tips on crimes, or illegal schemes of interest to Trump.
I don't believe trumps security will ever be removed. Which means I don't think he will ever go to jail. If it appears it happened then I'll believe they're staging it.
You haven't been paying attention. The left hasn't treated him with any respect nor has the corrupted DOJ. Swat raid on Mar-a-lago for example. Name one other president treated this way. Marchan wasn't his trial judge in NYC by accident. He's a die hard liberal Democrat. The left isn't going to treat Trump with kid gloves. They want to do away with him. If you think they would send him to a white collar camp you are delusional. They want him dead. There have been attempts but his security is too good. He has Secret Service as well as private security. So they want him in a jail with inmates that have committed violent crimes. Why? To humiliate him and for there to be an unfortunate accident AKA Epstein. They've been trying to pass a law to remove the Secret Service detail assigned to him because he's a felon. Why? They want him unprotected in a violent prison so things can "happen".