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I see a lot of fake capitalists here lately; complaining about what others are able to make, not regarding the conditions and circumstances of those making said money.
In a capitalist system you make what the market will bear. Why not complain about some basketball or football player making tens of millions of dollars? Because they get paid by what they bring to the game. Same thing here
I've come around to agree with this. I used to believe the RINO propaganda that we live in a somewhat fair capitalistic system, and your status in it is based on your own life decisions. It took the 2008 TARP scams and my own awakening about the elites to realize that wage slavery is real and we're all being exploited for a big laugh.
Amen, brother! Those mf'ers that got the TARP money are still walking around scott-free
nobody's complaining about how much they make. it's the fact that they're holding the nation hostage in order to make more. that's not capitalism. if their jobs are too dangerous for the pay, they should find new ones.
If they can "hold the nation hostage" I guess their jobs are pretty important to the economy.
They have been in negotiations for about a year. All the other shippers are willing to pay what they are asking for, only Maersk (the biggest shipper) has been holding out. These are foreign companies trying to dictate to Americans.
From what I've gathered, the biggest sticking point is automation and not wages. And yeah, Maersk is behind wanting to be able to use automation. It's probably necessary to stay competitive. Here's an article from July that somewhat addresses that: https://gcaptain.com/growing-threat-of-strike-looms-over-atlantic-and-gulf-coast-ports/
i guess i'm missing what's capitalist about forcing your employer to pay more (at the expense of the nation) instead of just looking for new work
They are not forcing, they are negotiating their future wages, similar to how you do when you want a raise from your boss. They just do it collectively and bring in lawyers (that are paid for by their dues).
I feel that we are missing the point here, the dock workers aren't the bad guys here. They followed the rules set up between the employers and employees. They use a five year contract that they bargain to get, and Maersk has not even come to the table to negotiate.
The raise they are asking for isn't instant, but a series of raises spread out every year over the five year contract. At thirteen percent inflation, this doesn't seem out of bounds as it appears with a cursory look.
The big thing that gets me is the timing of this strike in relation to the election coming up in a month. That's what we should be looking into.
this is why unions are a big part of establishing communism. so that nobody is allowed to break rank, allowing strikes to be used to manipulate whole countries.
Both sides do that. Back in the late 80's I read a book called The CIA Diaries, that the author was retired CIA. He lamented about the amount of messing with Argentina, Chile, and Bolivia- using the unions, newspapers, radio, and tv stations to alter the outcomes of elections.
Do we see a correlation of what's going on today?
You're not suggesting that the CIA is some sort of free market capitalist organization, are you?
They are the spies/spooks/agitators for the communist/Illuminati criminal conspirators behind the scenes.
I agree 100%! The msm hasn't reported this issue and it's been simmering for the last year. Something about this will reflect badly to the demoncrats is my gut feeling. Has Maersk been a major money contributer to both parties? The timing is suspicious.
Do you threaten to stop work when you negotiate with your boss? Ridiculous.
Or how about the timing after a hurricane...
Exactly, who pays for it in the end? The consumer. As for me, I'll buy gold and silver rather than the shit they unload from Chyna.
The workers aren't putting a gun to their employer's heads.
true... the gun is at our heads.
Wxacy it's like a bank robber grabbing g a customer as a hostage. Unions are un-American and it's time they go. Thank unions for your 100k pickup truck.
These companies use these men for all they can and then dispose of them after 30 years and only want to pay them 2100 a month in retirement. You would strike too if you had to deal with stuff like that.
If I REALLY thought it was a terrible deal, I would not strike.
I would find a better job.
striking isn't going to make them give you more for retirement.
should have quit as soon as you felt you weren't being paid enough.
these bloated, abusive companies are able to continue because workers resort to begging them for better wages.
this is also why communist societies must be atheist societies. what are you putting your faith in? a union threatening the livelihood of the people?
Quit! or just sue! it's clear they don't deserve your labour.
And nobody is putting a gun to the workers' heads, telling them they are not allowed to go find a better job.
Ita the fact the unions are controlled by deep state shills. I consider it bunch American espescially right now. This isn't about a paycheck ffs. Wake up. It's to further cripple and collapse the American economy and those idiots will suffer like everybody who hasn't prepared.
Wait until robot and AI and illegals or new immigrants took their jobs, then it is zero
They are also requiring language that states there will be NO port automation (ie robots), in order to protect jobs.
Unions have been captured by Leftists for a long time. Itβs more than collectively asking for a little raise.
$39 a hour is not enough for them ??? asking for 61% increase...
Pay them dues, the fat cats need $$$$ for their yacht, vacay cabin & other necessities.
Absolutely isn't enough at all. You need to look at how hard that job is, how dangerous it is.
Then they can find a new job, if nobody wants to work at that wage then wages will go up naturally
They're asking for $5 more per hour.... tf are you getting this 61% increase from?
It came from a news article..just re-checked it is 5 per hr , 77% over 6 years.
I have inside information; it was $5 overall. Not $5 per year. No company is going to do that.
The longer this last the better the October surprise will be
I've been hearing that the dock workers are objecting to AI controlling their workflow and putting their lives at risk. We don't have all the facts yet.
Everybody needs that kind of wage increase after that monster inflation****
I feel like this is a cover story.
These are dangerous jobs,
Lol, this is not a dangerous job.
Roofing is a dangerous job.
I've done roofing for over 30 years and there does not exist a more dangerous job.
We have the highest workers comp rate and most deaths per year.
Working the docks, sigh.
Correct.
Lumberjack, deep sea fisherman, and roofers have the most dangerous jobs in the world.
Nothing else comes anywhere close.
EDIT TO ADD: Looks like coal miners are actually THEE most dangerous, by far.
2.9 deaths per 100 (not 100,000) and 3.9 per 100 for bituminous (asphalt) underground coal miners.
Forgot about lumberjack. My grandfather was a lumberjack. Crazy dangerous.
My great-grandfather was a coal miner.
All those dudes were/are tough AF.
Forgot about the miners. What a dangerous animal going underground is.
I would always prefer to be above ground.
You are right about those men.
My lumberjack grandfather went overseas as a kid. He wasn't even 18 and led a group of other men up a mountain with Japanese entrenched.
Was Luzon and it was hell on earth for those young guys.
He is buried at Riverside. For those unaware, that is west coast Arlington.
Yeah, mining is a different monster all together.
So, as a roofer, we follow OSHA, as all other trade do.
Mining, hehe?
They have MSHA
We pronounce it Misha
Anyway, I have done a lot of work on the mines over the years and went through their above ground safety.
Never the under ground stuff.
Different beast and I forgot about said beast.
Definitely, the most dangerous.
LOL are you smoking crack?
https://www.vbattorneys.com/blog/riskiest-jobs-maritime
Over the last six years, longshore workers have had a fatality rate of 17.3 deaths per 100,000 employees. This compares to 16.6 deaths per 100,000 for firefighters and 14.9 deaths per 100,000 for police officers.
You're right, not dangerous out all... damn clown.
That's not dangerous compared to roofing, where 60 deaths per year per 100k occur.
I'd be willing to wager money that those longshoremem deaths are mostly avoidable with common sense.
Would love a deep dive into how they died.
A roofer is super aware everyday they go to work that they can die that day.
Doubt those longshoremen go into work thinking the same.
Roofing sucks and I agree is dangerous, but to try and discount longshoreman jobs, is beyond clownish.
You obviously helped out 1 summer on the roof. That doesn't mean you have any idea just what you were dealing with.
Longshoremen jobs is not dangerous. Obviously, as a roofer, my idea of dangerous and yours is a world apart.
One summer on a roof working 11/12, and 12/12 pitches was enough for me to say nah fuck that.
If you did work a 45 degree as a first time summer?
Damn, impressive.
My hat is off to you and up voted!
I climbed 45 into my early 30's then got top heavy and couldn't. I know a few guys in their 60's that still climb without safety, a 45.
Interesting tidbit about first trump assassination and my views as a roofer.
In roofing, we call slopes either low slope or steep slope.
Low slope ends at 2:12.
Above that is steep slope.
It actually is about the way water reacts to steepness. Without getting too technical, water either sheds or does not.
Below 2:12, water will not run off a roof, it will penetrative from the roof to the interior of the structure. At below 2:12, you are now making what us oldies call, a bathtub.
Anyway,
You can literally play flag football on a 2:12 slope. Not dangerous as all as far as steepness, but our technical definition of steep starts at 9.46 degrees.
My thought as a roofer?
Somebody at secret service asked someone in the trades if that 2:12 to 3:12 roof (what it looks like from pics to me) was considered steep and they replied, yes it is.
Lol
Lastly, the most dangerous roofs are actually flat imo. Guys climbing tall ladders, falling through holes or walking backwards off the roof.
It is crazy the danger that comfort and a feeling of safe creates.
About 6 months ago, my older brother asked me to do a second look and it required a 2 story ladder climb. He ran up ladder, then I turtled up that ladder, making super sure of 3 steady points at all times.
He was like, wtf little brother.
Are you OK, you've done this thousands of times. I replied, yeah, but today will be the day, if it doesn't done perfectly.
I am a big believer of safety monitors on the roof. A lot of roofers hate it because it costs a lot and you have somebody barking at you, but it does save lives.
I'm not a roofer, but I know 2 guys who fell off roofs with serious injuries. One was pronounced dead, but somehow was recovered.
Hell, I almost fell off a roof and I wasn't even roofing, just looking.
YOUR math doesn't seem to add up.
The website you linked to says NOTHING about the stats you claim.
That website is an attorney's website, and the handle lawsuits for longshoremen. OF COURSE they are going to by sympathetic to that job -- BUT ... they do NOT list the stats you cited.
So, your claim is not honest.
Here is a list of most dangerous jobs:
https://www.theworkersrights.com/dangerous-jobs-in-the-world/
https://www.theworkersrights.com/dangerous-jobs-in-the-world/
A list of 27 most dangerous jobs:
https://thecoolistap.pages.dev/posts/worked-to-death-27-most-dangerous-jobs-in-the-world/
Police and firemen are on the list, but way down it.
No sign of longshoremen anywhere on there.
But above police and firefighters, we have:
Also on the list:
But no longshoremen.
I wonder if you are lumping longshoremen with "fishermen," which would be quite dishonest to do, since they are very different jobs.
Here is a website that has real numbers for SOME occupations ("deaths per 100,000") --
I don't see "guys who unload ships" on any of these lists.
https://infocopse.com/most-dangerous-jobs-in-the-world/
Here's a graph with Top 10:
https://jobmarketmonitor.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/capture-d_c3a9cran-2014-09-16-c3a0-07-57-49.png
No longshoremen on the list.
Not to say it is not a dangerous job. It is. Just not among the MOST dangerous, so their pay should reflect reality, not hype.
Duh, who the fuck said the quote was from them? I posted an article saying it was a dangerous job, and then I posted how many longshoremen die per 100k.
Stop assuming.
You are in frog country.
I am a dumb dumb, but if you attract those frogs?
Be ready, lol!
https://gcaptain.com/the-worlds-most-dangerous-maritime-jobs/
Is that better for you, jackass? Next time, don't make assumptions.
Remember, the person you just called a jackass is another frog.
We in this fight together.
Throw your anger my way. I was the one to divert and cause change of discourse.
Reason?
I am still alive after close to 40 years of doing a crazy at times job.
Not always, but to be honest, have nightmares sometimes over the crap I did years ago.
Super dangerous shiat.
Other reason?
One of my favorite authors is Eric Hoffer.
He spent his last couple decades as a longshoreman on the west coast.
He did comment on the unions and the dumb dumbs that gravitate to them.
Most injuries were just retards doing retard shiat.
They cared nothing about the company saving a dime.
When I did retard shiat?
It was to save 2k being job costed for a man lift being delivered. Was fully aware of the crazy I was doing.
Hoffer was very specific in his books about the stupidity of the unaware and the causation.
There is a 5 part CBS interview of Hoffer on YouTube. Highly recommend everyone watch it.
It was not released for 50 years, then less than 10 years ago it showed up on youtube.
I let my temper get the better of me on that one. This is something that I am passionate about. My cousin broke his ankle doing that stuff. I saw how they treated him when it happened.
I try not to let my temper get the better of me, but when stuff like this hits so close to home, it gets a little harder.
You are solid and good.
To be honest?
Somewhat amazed the mods allowed our little tit for tat to take place.
They are the best mods.
Watch as China buy out our East and Gulf Coast seaports just like Long Beach. Watch as they automate our seaport and all of the Chinese illegal migrants take trucking jobs to bypass our resupply.
Not going to happen.
Is this the first "October Surprise"?
Yeah... SURPRISE! You're ALL fucked now!
I work for an extremely large worldwide company. This morning we had a team meeting for our group and I brought up the strike. I asked upper management if they had looked into the business consequences and their response was very "ho-hum" and didn't see this as a big deal.
My conspiracy mind tells me that our CEO's who are all WEF graduates DON'T want us to react as they can use this as an excuse to downsize us sooner than later.
Most corporate execs today graduated with MBA's, and all those schools teach all this garbage they are trying to implement.
It is all concentrated in the business school academic departments, which are likely funed by the Federal Reserve and their various criminal co-conspirators in all of this.
They fund medical schools that do not teach about health, only drugs.
They fund law schools that do not teach about law, only legal theories and practices in court (which is, mostly, do what the judge wants).
They fund business schools that do not teach about capitalism, but only about cronyism and socializing losses, along with a heavy dose of DEI and other woke bullshit.
Everyone who graduates from these schools THINKS they are the smartest people in the room. In reality, they are the most indoctrinated.
My wife's old boss who was a school principal is a prime example of this. PhD in education, belittled southern schools that still had Bibles in the classrooms, refused to let a Veteran come talk to the kids about Veteran's Day, and got at least 4 shots and boosters. She was 150% on board with the Common Core BS and had no empathy for kids that wanted to express themselves or share their own views of the world.
By the time she retired she was complaining of brain fog and some autoimmune problem that recently developed.
Inflation Spike? You mean what the democrats call "Price Gouging."
45,000 , you say? π
I firmly believe this is a scam by Harris/Walz and the unions so that Harris can swoop in to end the strike just before the election.
The union already told the admin to fuck off. They've also already met with Trump back when they first started threatening to strike.
Send in the robots
How long will it be before they blame Trump for this?
Oh, I am sure they already have, fren. I'm sure they already have.
Could it be something else? An imminent threat, and the strike is just the cover up? It's October, and roughly one month to change the course of the world.
Is this cover for an economic blockade around the US?
https://x.com/indygerl/status/1840790393291682260?s=10
Thereβs a unions and then there are terrorists. What does this guy sound like?
Like I said: https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1841157562344833334?s=46&t=xm_WTjP7jiCIAfJFvtNIbQ
Terrorist.
Speaking as Hurricane Helene refugees, this is terrible.
"braces for inflation"
Lmfao this this is ridiculous
In Wales they just closed down the last working steel blast furnace yesterday. It's easier to buy it from Chyna and have our share of the 500m on UBI.
It's almost comical how Starmer and his Marxist stooges are doing anything and everything spiteful they can think of because they know DJT is coming back to the WH.
We need a real President. Ask Reagan how to handle this. These people have kept us in the dark ages regarding our equipment and automation. Call RR!
Join your local commie union
continue to bootlick the big corps, as if they give a fuck about you.
Class act. Go on strike after a hurricane cripples the south. How about going down there to clean up while youβre on strike?
The strike was planned months before the hurricane ever hit; try that shit with other people, my dude.
and that is what they're fighting against.