in our modern system of justice, the death penalty is so expensive because of appeals. For life sentences, give them the option of death if they want to, but otherwise let them engage in something productive to pay their debt to society while keeping them locked away.
It should be an option for the worst cases, especially repeat offenders or people who can be proven to be a permanent threat to others, BUT the required proof before it becomes an option should be damn solid. Not how severe the crime is and they need to find the guilty party and it looks likely that they got him, but that there can be absolutely no doubt he did it.
No doubt. Not just that the procecution speaks better than his defense, or has managed to make some potential evidence for his innocence, or some reason why he maybe had some halfway acceptable reason for doing what he did (mistaken self defense in murder cases or something), not valid for the court.
If there is any doubt make it life sentence. Maybe give the option of choosing death himself for the accused as you said, but otherwise life.
However, if it is something like a serial killer case where there is no doubt that he has killed at least some of the victims, is caught on the act or something equally valid, then death penalty.
Mothers can coach their children into saying they were molested by a father, boyfriend, etc. It needs to be more than just a single accusation and conviction for death penalty to be carried out.
Also, children lie their asses off all the time. My wife sees this a lot in youth counseling, and we see this even with our kids (blaming the brother or the cat for ones own misdeeds). There are several instances of children accusing innocent people of heinous things, who were killed by a mob. There was a big story out of Russia a couple years back that immediately comes to mind.
First we re-do the FBI, then we go for justice. DJT says he knows who the players are this time around as opposed to 2016. He’s a quick study, as we know! A stable genius
I think once we're out from under Israel's thumb we'll see more progress in this regard. Right now it's to their benefit to suppress causes/cures & protect pedo networks because for them the ideal American politician/CEO/leader is one that is a pedo.
Aren't many of them people who were victims themselves when children? So yes, if it is possible to learn how to make sure the victims don't have the risk of becoming that as adults it would be damn good.
Otherwise, I have nothing against death penalty for that, or several other things, however death penalty for anything should require very bulletproof evidence. Especially men seem to fall victims to the accusation of being pedophiles pretty easily these days when they dare to have any interactions with children who are not their own, even if it is something like trying to help a lost kid in a mall or similar.
I think the reverse has happened already. A guy I have known for a long time the other day says he has cancer now. I know for a fact he got the mRNA too. I just do the stare. I made a stink about it then but not all will remember.
Yes - I just experienced this same thing with a co-worker. Doesn't feel good to be vindicated. Too late to help anything at this point. Best move, keep quiet. Feeling mighty sad right now.
I feel complexed on this issue because I don't trust the govt or justice system. Too many corrupt judges in every damn town!! 2 sides of a coin, right? Dems could use this against innocent MAGA.. u know those lefties would justify it. I think pedo lives should be in the hands of the parents or vigilantes.. sucks that I trust them more than government.
You know back in the day if you got freaks raping your kids and wives, the men in the village gather their tools and go deal with the freaks the old fashioned way. It's called self defense. They don't deserve the right to a lawyer or court.
While I definitely want this, the FBI being able to plant kiddie porn on people's computers in order to smear them undermines the justice this would bring.
I've been through the courts and HELL NO! Those people should not have the power to sentence ANYONE to death. They can make you plead to anything while you're sitting in jail for weeks waiting on your initial arraignment without even being able to call anyone, much less an actual lawyer. Shit, they will throw you into the cell with a group of rapists just to pressure you to plead guilty.
Lets just shoot for getting them arrested first. There are pictures of congressmen with children and evem homosex in the chambers. And why is Jizzlaine in prison? not 1 person has been even publically accused, much leess arrested. I mean really it's gonna be hard to execute them if we dont arrest them
No. I don't trust the justice system to make this call correctly. They've gotten it wrong too many times.
While I don't have any sympathy for evil people that abuse children, I do understand that in many cases it comes from a place of trauma (being abused themselves as children) and/or mental illness. Only if we can definitively determine that pedophiles can not be mentally cured should something like this be considered.
The only thing I object to is the priest; honest, serious question;
Can pedophiles be saved?
If they truly, deeply, and completely repent; can they be saved by God?
Or is it the type of crime where even once condemns you eternally?
Yes, for physical. I lost my sister years ago to a pedophile. He wa a janitor and she was not alone. For physical, you bet….. she was traumatized her whole life with no justice. Judge deemed too old to serve. This was early 70’s. The wounds were deep. I have NO sympathy for anyone who physically commits any sexual acts on a child. Proven child porn then castrate with minimal numbing!! She was so young 4th grade and he did others.
The bill passed in February 2024. Florida and other states passed similar laws. Looks like whichever state wants to execute first will go to the Supreme court.
It'd be interesting to see how this bill is worded to protect against unintended consequences... For instance if an 18-year old boy (legal adult) has a relationship with a 16-year old girl (it happens everyday in high schools across America). Is the bill written to exclude such things?
Yes, I support the death penalty for pedophiles, but the gov't has a knack for screwing things up so things become misapplied and incorrect.
No. Our system of justice has proven itself unworthy of being given access to the ultimate punishment.
Witness how even with all the resources imaginable--and with everyone in the world watching--the legal system was able to steamroll Trump.
It'd be a deadly tool in the FBI's toolchest: upload CP to the target's computer and let the legal system take care of the rest.
Can't just be on something like finding CP for that very reason alone. It must be for actually committing a pedophilic act.
100%.
in our modern system of justice, the death penalty is so expensive because of appeals. For life sentences, give them the option of death if they want to, but otherwise let them engage in something productive to pay their debt to society while keeping them locked away.
It should be an option for the worst cases, especially repeat offenders or people who can be proven to be a permanent threat to others, BUT the required proof before it becomes an option should be damn solid. Not how severe the crime is and they need to find the guilty party and it looks likely that they got him, but that there can be absolutely no doubt he did it.
No doubt. Not just that the procecution speaks better than his defense, or has managed to make some potential evidence for his innocence, or some reason why he maybe had some halfway acceptable reason for doing what he did (mistaken self defense in murder cases or something), not valid for the court.
If there is any doubt make it life sentence. Maybe give the option of choosing death himself for the accused as you said, but otherwise life.
However, if it is something like a serial killer case where there is no doubt that he has killed at least some of the victims, is caught on the act or something equally valid, then death penalty.
Mothers can coach their children into saying they were molested by a father, boyfriend, etc. It needs to be more than just a single accusation and conviction for death penalty to be carried out.
Also, children lie their asses off all the time. My wife sees this a lot in youth counseling, and we see this even with our kids (blaming the brother or the cat for ones own misdeeds). There are several instances of children accusing innocent people of heinous things, who were killed by a mob. There was a big story out of Russia a couple years back that immediately comes to mind.
Does the law stipulate that accusations alone can/will result in execution? I think that could help the discussion here.
No... shooting them is cheap. only cost a bullet. A rope is the cheapest.
Why is it that when a man rapes an adult u say he's wrong. But when a pedo rapes a kid, they say it's a sickness like they cannot help themselves?
Nope. Cheap easy Rope or bullet.
First we re-do the FBI, then we go for justice. DJT says he knows who the players are this time around as opposed to 2016. He’s a quick study, as we know! A stable genius
Yeah...you seem to be conflating CP with SA in first person which aren't the same
I suggest vigilantes or local cops and real men dealing with these Pedos. It's called self defense!
So…. If a person can live in one state but drive to another to get an abortion.
Does this mean we can drive a pedophile to Idaho?
We can drive them off a cliff and cops should look the other way. Case closed.
Yes! as fast as possible!
WAIT - first, let the father of the victim cut off the criminal's penis without any painkillers. After that, the execution can happen.
i'd rather use them as research subjects, to find a cure
I think once we're out from under Israel's thumb we'll see more progress in this regard. Right now it's to their benefit to suppress causes/cures & protect pedo networks because for them the ideal American politician/CEO/leader is one that is a pedo.
Israel ? Really ?
Who do you think Epstein worked for
Aren't many of them people who were victims themselves when children? So yes, if it is possible to learn how to make sure the victims don't have the risk of becoming that as adults it would be damn good.
Otherwise, I have nothing against death penalty for that, or several other things, however death penalty for anything should require very bulletproof evidence. Especially men seem to fall victims to the accusation of being pedophiles pretty easily these days when they dare to have any interactions with children who are not their own, even if it is something like trying to help a lost kid in a mall or similar.
they could be useful for testing drugs, vaxines, experimental surgeries etc...
I think the reverse has happened already. A guy I have known for a long time the other day says he has cancer now. I know for a fact he got the mRNA too. I just do the stare. I made a stink about it then but not all will remember.
Yes - I just experienced this same thing with a co-worker. Doesn't feel good to be vindicated. Too late to help anything at this point. Best move, keep quiet. Feeling mighty sad right now.
The 'Death Angel' COMETH. 😮😮😭
I feel complexed on this issue because I don't trust the govt or justice system. Too many corrupt judges in every damn town!! 2 sides of a coin, right? Dems could use this against innocent MAGA.. u know those lefties would justify it. I think pedo lives should be in the hands of the parents or vigilantes.. sucks that I trust them more than government.
You know back in the day if you got freaks raping your kids and wives, the men in the village gather their tools and go deal with the freaks the old fashioned way. It's called self defense. They don't deserve the right to a lawyer or court.
While I definitely want this, the FBI being able to plant kiddie porn on people's computers in order to smear them undermines the justice this would bring.
Now we’re trusting the Justice system to do the right thing???
I've been through the courts and HELL NO! Those people should not have the power to sentence ANYONE to death. They can make you plead to anything while you're sitting in jail for weeks waiting on your initial arraignment without even being able to call anyone, much less an actual lawyer. Shit, they will throw you into the cell with a group of rapists just to pressure you to plead guilty.
Woodchipper goes brrrrrrrrrr
Lets just shoot for getting them arrested first. There are pictures of congressmen with children and evem homosex in the chambers. And why is Jizzlaine in prison? not 1 person has been even publically accused, much leess arrested. I mean really it's gonna be hard to execute them if we dont arrest them
No. I don't trust the justice system to make this call correctly. They've gotten it wrong too many times.
While I don't have any sympathy for evil people that abuse children, I do understand that in many cases it comes from a place of trauma (being abused themselves as children) and/or mental illness. Only if we can definitively determine that pedophiles can not be mentally cured should something like this be considered.
Yes save the children!
Start tracking who moves out of Idaho.
The only thing I object to is the priest; honest, serious question; Can pedophiles be saved? If they truly, deeply, and completely repent; can they be saved by God?
Or is it the type of crime where even once condemns you eternally?
Yes, for physical. I lost my sister years ago to a pedophile. He wa a janitor and she was not alone. For physical, you bet….. she was traumatized her whole life with no justice. Judge deemed too old to serve. This was early 70’s. The wounds were deep. I have NO sympathy for anyone who physically commits any sexual acts on a child. Proven child porn then castrate with minimal numbing!! She was so young 4th grade and he did others.
I’m so sorry. No child should be subjected to this trauma. My prayers are with you and may your sister be at peace now
Only after the general prison population gets some time with him.
One major way to make it stop ASAP!!!
The bill passed in February 2024. Florida and other states passed similar laws. Looks like whichever state wants to execute first will go to the Supreme court.
https://blog.idahoreports.idahoptv.org/2024/02/13/house-approves-death-penalty-child-sex-crimes/
Was there any sauce for this re-post OP? Lots of opinions here.
It'd be interesting to see how this bill is worded to protect against unintended consequences... For instance if an 18-year old boy (legal adult) has a relationship with a 16-year old girl (it happens everyday in high schools across America). Is the bill written to exclude such things?
Yes, I support the death penalty for pedophiles, but the gov't has a knack for screwing things up so things become misapplied and incorrect.
The government has a new sheriff fren
yep the freaks in govt did this on purpose.. an 19 and a 16 or 17 y.o is different and not in the pedo category. They gotta fix this
Chemical Castration an option too. Might be cheaper
they will find other ways to rape children. they need to die.
Good point. And what if there was an antidote to the chemical castration?
Yes!